Republic Of Scotland : Thurs Sept 18th 2014

[Niamh.]

Scotland should be like the EU, and just hold a referendum every year until they get the YES result they want.

Isn't that what the EU did to many countries on the Lisbon treaty? especially Ireland. and speaking of Ireland, they should do the same, hold a referendum for joining the rest of the island every year.

lmao, it's funny you say that, they were only talking about that on the radio this morning. Complete joke that was

[Crimson Dynamo]

After the no to devo in 79 10 years later we got it

Even if we get a no on Thurs its just a stepping stone to Independence which will happen.

[Toy Soldier]

That's not a given, we don't have a crystal ball and what ifs are not a good enough basis to cut away from the union.

The Labour / Tory flip-flop of governments *is* a given... I literally see no way for it to change?

[Kizzy]

The Labour / Tory flip-flop of governments *is* a given... I literally see no way for it to change?

So logically how does independence from these ensure a better Scotand? It doesn't.

[arista]

Dork Labour Leader Ed Miliband
had to stop his walkabout
in Edinburgh.

Due to Larger Amount of Yes voters

Ref : Ch4HDNews



Utter Bliss

[joeysteele]

Dork Labour Leader Ed Miliband
had to stop his walkabout
in Edinburgh.

Due to Larger Amount of Yes voters

Ref : Ch4HDNews



Utter Bliss

I don't agree with either side shouting down the other,that will only go against the side doing so.

I also give full credit to Miliband and indeed Jim Murphy too that despite that they have tried to talk in public and do a walkabout.
That is a lot more than can be said for the PM and his cabinet colleagues,exclding Clegg of course who also tried to do the walkabouts.

[arista]

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yes fella
light it up

[arista]

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bless you titch
we are doing it for your future

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You are a Work of Art
Lady

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/17/1410979538912_wps_31_Licensed_to_London_News_P.jpg
You are a Work of Art
Lady

She has adrenal fatigue ( dark circles around the eye) and a dry scaly yeasty patch around her nostril, I suggest pre and probiotics, no alcohol and some essential fatty acids in her diet..... And a no vote.

Maybe a few highlights...

[lostalex]

Scotland will not be free. I promise you. with al the bravado and the huffing and puffing, it won't happen.

Even if it could happen, you wouldn't know it. It wouldn't be allowed.

[Lee.]

Alex it'll be a YES! Well I've been confident if that up until tonight.. I've got to admit I'm nervous and aprehensive tonight. I feel physically sick :(

[the truth]

keep your friends close and your enemies closer. lets face it the scots dont like us and we dont like them (well most of us dont, I think theyre great) but theyd get more out of us and wed get ,ore out of them together....disunited there will be no collaboration, no strength in numbers, no massive fallback treasury, no ties that bind. it makes us all weaker....TEAM = Together Everyone Achieves More

[Toy Soldier]

I've been describing myself as a "yessimist" (a yes pessimist... Haw haw...). I don't believe in democracy. It's just another illusion of freedom designed to maintain control, and the world's most powerful oligarchs at home and abroad have far too much at stake here for a Yes vote to be allowed.

Either the tactics of fear will have already worked or someone will be desperately scrambling to move the goal posts (which incidentally will also happen in the event of a No vote. "Extra power" will be trivial or non-existent). Might sound like conspiracy theory but... It's just the world we live in. The real one. The one where the UK is ruled by a few dozen boys who all went to the same schools, and where the US is controlled by a handful of dynasties. Real change can't and won't ever happen, it's too late even for revolution unless you think that blowing spit balls at metal-clad drones armed with tonnes of explosives is particularly effective. The world is what it is until it crumbles, and we're already on the way there.

But we could at ****ing least have the balls to try?

Merry Yesmass...

[joeysteele]

I really hope it is a decisive result either way. A really massive day in the history of Scotland.

[arista]

I really hope it is a decisive result either way. A really massive day in the history of Scotland.



Yes 2AM

I would Like a Yes Vote Win



Parliament Recalled
English PM stays in his Job

G.Brown gets Blammed again

[Kyle]

keep your friends close and your enemies closer. lets face it the scots dont like us and we dont like them (well most of us dont, I think theyre great) but theyd get more out of us and wed get ,ore out of them together....disunited there will be no collaboration, no strength in numbers, no massive fallback treasury, no ties that bind. it makes us all weaker....TEAM = Together Everyone Achieves More

I've seen enough to suggest the ties have gone. I'm kinda done with my Scottish side now. I hope they vote yes and do what they want and I wish them all the best but my allegiance is 100% to England now.

[arista]

[Andy Murray says 'Yes' to Scottish independence]


Yes keep
it up

[Toy Soldier]

I really hope it is a decisive result either way. A really massive day in the history of Scotland.

That's the saddest part really; it won't be. You're talking a 6 point swing at most IMO, so 47% to 53% (or less, my guess would actually be 52% No).

So whichever way it swings, more or less half of the population are going to wake up to a shock (or in my case, expected disappointment) tomorrow. No one can conclusively say whether Scotland "wants independence" or not even after the result. Not with it being a 50/50 split.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just walked down to the bottom of the drive to vote as the polling station hut is at start of village, me and the dog did our bit, then we went a long walk in the Easterly gloom and she nearly caught a few Pheasants.

[MTVN]

Murray confirming he is a massive tit :idc:

Pretty surprising move from him as well considering the unlikelihood of a Yes vote

[Kizzy]

keep your friends close and your enemies closer. lets face it the scots dont like us and we dont like them (well most of us dont, I think theyre great) but theyd get more out of us and wed get ,ore out of them together....disunited there will be no collaboration, no strength in numbers, no massive fallback treasury, no ties that bind. it makes us all weaker....TEAM = Together Everyone Achieves More

That's a horrible thing to say and totally untrue! We have a little chuckle at each others idiosyncrasies (square sausages?) But of course we like the Scottish.

[Lee.]

Murray confirming he is a massive tit :idc:

Pretty surprising move from him as well considering the unlikelihood of a Yes vote

A massive tit because he agrees his country should be independent??

And a YES vote is likely :)

[Kizzy]

Were you allowed to vote in pen?..

[MTVN]

A massive tit because he agrees his country should be independent??

And a YES vote is likely :)

Makes a mockery of all his protests that he's 'British and Scottish' which was always obviously something he was just told to say anyway, and that he was always proud to be representing GB, that he didn't like Salmond waving the Scottish flag at Wimbledon, and how he also hinted he was supporting a No vote earlier in the year when it looked like No would easily win. At least he doesn't have a vote anyway considering he lives and trains in England. If Murray had his way then Wimbledon won't be his home crowd any more so he can't complain if he gets nowhere near the same support there :idc:

[Niamh.]

Were you allowed to vote in pen?..

Votes should probably always be done in pen anyway, makes more sense that they can't tampered with afterwards :think:

[Lee.]

Were you allowed to vote in pen?..

I've not voted yet Kizzy.. I've got to wait until this evening. My mums coming to hospital to sit with Samuel whilst Dave and I go home to vote. If I'd had half a brain, I'd have applied for a postal vote but it didn't even cross my mind!

They are allowing pen apparently.. I'm just going to press extra hard with the pencil!

I'm definitely going to cry as I walk out that polling station :)

[Kizzy]

Josy mentioned something about it was said they had to be in pencil, very odd that...

Aw don't cry lee, I think yes or no there will be big changes ahead for Scotland :hug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Makes a mockery of all his protests that he's 'British and Scottish' which was always obviously something he was just told to say anyway, and that he was always proud to be representing GB, that he didn't like Salmond waving the Scottish flag at Wimbledon, and how he also hinted he was supporting a No vote earlier in the year when it looked like No would easily win. At least he doesn't have a vote anyway considering he lives and trains in England. If Murray had his way then Wimbledon won't be his home crowd any more so he can't complain if he gets nowhere near the same support there :idc:

I am guessing that multimillionaire grand-slam and olympic champion AM with his tasty bird and new hotel just opened near Gleneagles will cope with what you allege...


:idc:

[curlsltd]

I've not voted yet Kizzy.. I've got to wait until this evening. My mums coming to hospital to sit with Samuel whilst Dave and I go home to vote. If I'd had half a brain, I'd have applied for a postal vote but it didn't even cross my mind!

They are allowing pen apparently.. I'm just going to press extra hard with the pencil!

I'm definitely going to cry as I walk out that polling station :)

Pretty sure you're only allowed to use pencil. Just hoping they don't get tampered with.

[Josy]

Pretty sure you're only allowed to use pencil. Just hoping they don't get tampered with.

The electoral commission has confirmed you can use your own pen.

Postal votes are also done in pen.

They only provide pencils at the polling station though.

[Vanessa]

Pencils should not be allowed. Too easy to tamper with. :suspect:

[Toy Soldier]

Makes a mockery of all his protests that he's 'British and Scottish' which was always obviously something he was just told to say anyway, and that he was always proud to be representing GB, that he didn't like Salmond waving the Scottish flag at Wimbledon, and how he also hinted he was supporting a No vote earlier in the year when it looked like No would easily win. At least he doesn't have a vote anyway considering he lives and trains in England. If Murray had his way then Wimbledon won't be his home crowd any more so he can't complain if he gets nowhere near the same support there :idc:

In his earlier career as he was rising, Murray was actually always quite insistent in being referred to as Scottish, not British, and I believe there was a bit of a strop thrown over once being referred to by a non-UK commentator as English.

The "proud British" stuff only came after he became a real grand slam competitor and yes was almost certainly down to PR advice rather than his own feelings.

[curlsltd]

The electoral commission has confirmed you can use your own pen.

Postal votes are also done in pen.

They only provide pencils at the polling station though.

Aww I used the pencil at the polling station. I thought you couldn't use pens! Ahh well :)

[James]

President Obama supporting No. Calls the UK 'a force for good in an unstable world'.

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The leader of the free world > any tennis player.

[arista]

President Obama supporting No. Calls the UK 'a force for good in an unstable world'.

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The leader of the free world > any tennis player.


He is a Out Going President
that is not liked anymore


And its great to see the Scottish Tennis Player
Andy support "yes"

[Brother Leon]

[Andy Murray says 'Yes' to Scottish independence]


Yes keep
it up

Hardly a shock. The guy hates being called British and England and yet fools still support him at Wimbledon :laugh:

[LukeB]

when do we find out?

[James]

He is a Out Going President
that is not liked anymore


And its great to see the Scottish Tennis Player
Andy support "yes"

From https://www.letsstaytogether.org.uk/ - a UK-wide campaign that gives a voice to everyone who doesn't have a vote in the decision to break up Britain.

Celebrities supporting no:

David Aaronovitch
Jenny Agutter
Sir Ben Ainslie
Kriss Akabusi
Roger Allam
Kirstie Allsop
Alexander Armstrong
Sir David Attenborough
Steve Backley
Baroness Joan Bakewell
Frances Barber
Andy Barrow
John Barrowman
Mike Batt
Glen Baxter
Stanely Baxter
Martin Bayfield
Mary Beard
Sarah Beeny
Anthony Beevor
Angelica Bell
Dickie Bird
Cilla Black
Graeme Black
Roger Black
Malorie Blackman
Ranjit Bolt
Helena Bonham-Carter
Alain de Botton
William Boyd
Tracey Brabin
Lord Melvyn Bragg
Jo Brand
Gyles Brandreth
Rob Brydon
Louisa Buck
Simon Callow
Will Carling
Guy Chambers
Nick Cohen
Michelle Collins
Colonel Tim Collins
Olivia Colman
Charlie Condou
Susannah Constantine
Steve Coogan
Dominic Cooper
Ronnie Corbett
Simon Cowell
Jason Cowley
Sara Cox
Amanda Craig
Steve Cram
Richard Curtis
Paul Cartledge
Tom Daley
William Dalrymple
Richard Dawkins
Dame Judi Dench
Jeremy Deller
Lord Michael Dobbs
Jimmy Doherty
Michael Douglas
Simon Easterby
Gareth Edwards
Jonathan Edwards
Tracey Emin
Sebastian Faulks
Bryan Ferry
Ranulph Fiennes
Ben Fogle
Amanda Foreman
Sir Bruce Forsyth
Neil Fox
Emma Freud
Bernard Gallacher
Kirsty Gallacher
George Galloway
Sir John Eliot Gardiner
Bamber Gascoigne
David Gilmour
Harvey Goldsmith
David Goodhart
Lachlan Goudie
David Gower
AC Grayling
Will Greenwood
Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson
Lord Charles Guthrie
Haydn Gwynne
Tamsin Greig
Maggi Hambling
Mehdi Hasan
Sir Max Hastings
Stephen Hawking
Peter Hennessy
James Holland
Tom Holland
Tom Hollander
Gloria Hunniford
Conn Iggledun
John Illsley
Brendan Ingle
Eddie Izzard
Betty Jackson
Sir Mike Jackson
Howard Jacobson
Sir Mick Jagger
Baroness PD James
Griff Rhys Jones
Terry Jones
Christopher Kane
Sir Anish Kapoor
Ross Kemp
Paul Kenny
Jemima Khan
India Knight
Martha Lane Fox
Baroness Doreen Lawrence
Tory Lawrence
Kathy Lette
Rod Liddle
Louise Linton
John Lloyd (journalist)
John Lloyd (producer)
Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber
Gabby Logan
Kenny Logan
Sarah Lucas
Dame Vera Lynn
James May
Margaret MacMillan
Stephen Mangan
Davina McCall
Sir Ian McGeechan
Heather McGregor
Andy McNab
John Michie
David Mitchell
Lord John Monks
Lewis Moody
Michael Morpurgo
Bill Morris
David Morrissey
Philip Mould
Al Murray
Sir Paul Nurse
Andy Nyman
Peter Oborne
Sir Michael Parkinson
Fiona Phillips
Andy Puddicombe
Lord David Puttnam
Anita Rani
Esther Rantzen
Sir Steve Redgrave
Derek Redmond
Pete Reed
Lord Martin Rees
Peter Reid
Baroness Ruth Rendell
Sir Cliff Richard
Hugo Rifkind
Sir Tony Robinson
David Rowntree
Ian Rush
Greg Rutherford
CJ Sansom
June Sarpong
Simon Schama
John Sessions
Sandie Shaw
Helen Skelton
Sir Tim Smit
Dan Snow
Peter Snow
Phil Spencer
David Starkey
Sir Patrick Stewart
Lord Jock Stirrup
Neil Stuke
Sting
Tallia Storm
David Suchet
Graeme Swann
Sir Alan Sugar
Stella Tennant
Daley Thompson
Alan Titchmarsh
James Timpson
Kevin Toolis
Lynne Truss
Gavin Turk
Roger Uttley
David Walliams
Zoe Wanamaker
Robert Webb
Richard Wentworth
Lord Alan West
Dominic West
Kevin Whateley
Bob Wilson
Richard Wilson
Barbara Windsor
Lord Robert Winston
Ray Winstone
Sir Nicholas Winton
Michael Wood
Trinny Woodall
Sir Clive Woodward
Jonathan Yeo
Robyn Young

[MTVN]

To be fair though the Yes side has the support of Rupert Murdoch and Kim Jong Un

[Brother Leon]

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It's decided peeps.

[arista]

Yes James
big list England big country.

[arista]

To be fair though the Yes side has the support of Rupert Murdoch and Kim Jong Un


yes the Young Leader

[arista]

I will Have SkyNewsHD
BBCHD
STV1HD
and
FoxNewsHD

on all night



I have Jack Bruce (A Top Scottish Musician/Singer)
on my 5.1 CD player

[Vanessa]

I think NO will win, but just about.

[Josy]

Voting is now over :worry:

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[arista]

I think NO will win, but just about.


You may be right.

Sadly

[Kizzy]

A lot of people voted in pencil then.... #conspiracyness