**The Official BB13 Ratings Thread**

[*mazedsalv**]

It's time for another one of these threads. Now the promotion has started and that we have 13 DAYS I would like to start this thread. So make your predictions, what will the launch get, what will the series average?

I know that CBB will follow but I think we should keep the two threads separated and make a different one after BB13 finishes.

OFFICIAL FIGURES

BB SERIES AVERAGES (OFFICIAL FIGURES)

BIG BROTHER 1 (2000): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 2 (2001): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 3 (2002): 5.8m
BIG BROTHER 4 (2003): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 5 (2004): 5.1m
BIG BROTHER 6 (2005): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 7 (2006): 4.7m
BIG BROTHER 8 (2007): 3.9m
BIG BROTHER 9 (2008): 3.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 10 (2009): 2.5m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 11 (2010): 2.9m [inc. +1]
ULTIMATE BIG BROTHER (2010): 3.2m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 12 (2011) 1.7m [incl. +1]

The latest CBB received 2.6m average (a rise of 900k from BB12), quite impressive considering CBB9 aired only 2 months after the end of BB12, and the finale got 3.4m.

[Jarrod]

1.8 if we're lucky..

[BB IS ALIVE]

I predict.

Launch: 3.3 million

Final: 3.7million(If combined with CBB launch, like BB11/UBB)

Series average: 2.3 million

[Maia]

Launch: 2.5m
Series Average: 1.4m
Final: 2.0m

[Jake.]

Launch- 3.3 million
Series Average- 2.2 million
Finale- 2.6 million

[Ramsay]

Launch - 1.5 m
Series Average - 1 m
Finale - 1.2 m

[Jack_]

Launch:
2.8m (peak of 3m if we're lucky, I'm being quite optimistic with 2.8m in itself)

Series average:
1.4m

Final:
2.3m

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Launch 2.3

Average 1.4

I have a feeling this year may be a suprise hit though.

[Jake.]

After CBB9 jumped back from BB12s 1.7 million average im optimistic. Running straight after CBB8 ruined BB12s chances, this time around there has been a break.

[King Gizzard]

9.2 million

[Jake.]

:joker: just imagine...

[*mazedsalv**]

BB12 I think may have been a one off as it was launched right after CBB8 with no promotion. If BB13 launches with around 3m, it could end up with around a 2.2m-2.4m average. CBB9 averaged 2.6m and the finale was watched by 3.4m, so it shows there is still life in BB.

[Omah]

Launch: 2.4m
Series Average: 1.3m
Final: 1.9m

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If anything CBB10's ratings should suffer coming off the back of another series.

Its just not a good idea to have series one after each other as it takes something away from the previous one ie: the winner of BB13 will be forgotten about pretty much as CBB starts stealing their thunder.

[Loukas]

Launch - 2.5/3m
Series Average - 1.8/2m
Final - 2/2.5m

[JohnnyBB]

Just For One Year It Would Be Lovely Not To Have This Thread, :)

[DigitalSid]

Just For One Year It Would Be Lovely Not To Have This Thread, :)

:confused:

[JohnnyBB]

:confused:

Raitings Its all Everyone Worrys about Just Enjoy the offerings!

[Jordan.]

If it wasn't for the olympics I think this series would do slightly better.

Launch: 2.6M
Average: 1.5M
Finale: 2.0M

[DigitalSid]

Raitings Its all Everyone Worrys about Just Enjoy the offerings!

If the show gets bad ratings, there will be no offerings to enjoy.

[Urban Cragou]

1.54m would be realistic, I reckon. But to form a broader area, anywhere between 1.5 and 2.5m should do.

[Samuel.]

1.2m average.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Look tha ratings were good in previous years but compare them to other channels aka estenders and x factor who get twice as many viewers.

BB was all about the press attention and thats what made it a phenomenom because the sun or any other tabloid could just grab a live image from live feed and make any story they want which caused viewers to gossip about it whilst reading their newspapers on the train or at the office and wanna switch on..

They could produce actual breaking news but now every bb story in the tabloids is a rehash of last nights episode.

Yea BB was big but what made it bigger was the tabloids which got people talking about it from all walks of life.

Now all we got is the daily star and their "sex den" stroies and fake headlines.

[*mazedsalv**]

I think the rating could be low judging by recent weather if it stays until then. Everything is massively down.

[Urban Cragou]

I think the rating could be low judging by recent weather if it stays until then. Everything is massively down.

That's very true but you never know if this weather will be here come BB13. It may well be, though, so you're probably right.

[DigitalSid]

I think the rating could be low judging by recent weather if it stays until then. Everything is massively down.

Someone on the weather said it is expected to last till Jubilee weekend. Don't know if they meant that it's likely to end after that or that it's likely to last to then at the earliest, too early for them to tell for sure though. It was only 16 degrees last night but it's expected to be the same temperature as last week tomorrow.

[*mazedsalv**]

Someone on the weather said it is expected to last till Jubilee weekend. Don't know if they meant that it's likely to end after that or that it's likely to last to then at the earliest, too early for them to tell for sure though. It was only 16 degrees last night but it's expected to be the same temperature as last week tomorrow.

Just checked the 10 day. It says 18C and cloudy on launch day, with lows of around 11C, reckon it should do ok then.

[jackc1806]

It should do well

[DigitalSid]

It should do well

It should if they promote it.

Marcus Bentley ‏@marcusBBbentley

@Channel5Press a lot of people are asking when Big Brother is launching!

[*mazedsalv**]

With promotion increasing, I think it could do quite well.

[BB IS ALIVE]

So do I. *Prays for above 3.5 million*

[SSL2012]

Launch 2.9million

Average Between 1.8-2.2 million

Finale 3.1million

I reckon the fact bb is first this time, and taking into account it's back in it's usual summer slot. Should help, also +1 figures will have some affect this time round.

[JohnnyBB]

Luanch 1.2m peak 2.0m

Average 1.8m

finale 1.8m peak 2.0m

[daniel-lewis-1985]

With promotion increasing, I think it could do quite well.

Promotion has been awful!

No adverts on other channels and no billboards.

Very lazy campaign.

[Pronshi]

Promotion has been awful!

No adverts on other channels and no billboards.

Very lazy campaign.

This!!
It bloody ridiculous!
How they expect more than 3 million at launch is beyond me.

If they went flat out and promised big things and maybe got someone like Alice or Emma to front and got a good 6 million for launch they could try retain 2-3 million in average ratings.
We know from experience launch ratings are essential!!

Brian can be off putting tho, like its best of a woman like Emma Or Alice hosts.
Brian is a funny guy tho.

[RichardG]

To be honest i'm expecting the ratings to be fairly low. They've done plenty of advertising for Big Brother Bingo but almost none for the show itself. I'm expecting 2m at the most.

[*mazedsalv**]

To be honest i'm expecting the ratings to be fairly low. They've done plenty of advertising for Big Brother Bingo but almost none for the show itself. I'm expecting 2m at the most.

Naa. It won't launch at under 2m. The BB12 final even got more than that. CBB9 final was watched by 3.4m. If most know its coming back, then I don't see why they can't manage over 2.6m. Also, Tuesday is an overall poor day for TV (especially for ITV). Silk is the only threat which itself dropped half a million last week to this week from 5.3m to 4.8m.

[iRyan]

I'm not stressing about ratings - regardless we'll still have two more years of Big Brother after this. It's not like we need to worry about it being cancelled due to bad ratings.

If it flops, it's their own damn fault for not advertising enough.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

2.5million I reckon.

[DS.]

Did any advertisements air yesterday on different channels? I was hoping they'd advertise during The Cube on ITV.

[Marcus.]

I did not see it Yesterday

#TeamRebecca

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I aint seen adverts anywhere apart from Channel 5.

[DigitalSid]

It was on Channel 4 this afternoon apparently. Hopefully we'll see an some on ITV tomorrow (day before the launch).

[Jack_]

They should've stuck one during Celebrity Deal or No Deal with McFly. It's been trending worldwide on Twitter and will have had a lot of young people watching.

Though it might've been...I went out the room during the ads.

[*mazedsalv**]

I am sure they have been advertising a lot on Channel 4. In one day (all on Friday) it aired during The Simpsons, Hollyoaks and Chatty Man. Probably the three shows which skew the biggest BB demo.

[DS.]

I am sure they have been advertising a lot on Channel 4. In one day (all on Friday) it aired during The Simpsons, Hollyoaks and Chatty Man. Probably the three shows which skew the biggest BB demo.

I think they advertised during Deal or No Deal yesterday.

One of the soaps tonight on ITV would be good.

[Jordan.]

Honestly no excuse for this to get bad ratings tomorrow when the biggest competition is 'Martin Clunes The Lemurs of Madagascar' http://www.bimmerteam.hu/forum/images/smilies/uhoh2.gif

[DigitalSid]

Honestly no excuse for this to get bad ratings tomorrow when the biggest competition is 'Martin Clunes The Lemurs of Madagascar' http://www.bimmerteam.hu/forum/images/smilies/uhoh2.gif

:laugh:

Silk is much bigger.

[Locke.]

Wouldn't even know it was starting if I wasn't on here, haven't seen a single advert or billboard.

[*mazedsalv**]

They advertised on ITV earlier. An ad during the soaps and we are all good to go.

[Maia]

32,000 for the launch

[Urban Cragou]

32,000 for the launch

Incredibly wishful thinking there, Mollie. Have you seen the chair?

[Marcus.]

2.9 million i think

[DigitalSid]

2.8m if they don't advertise on ITV tonight, 3 if they do 2.7 or 2.9 if it's not raining like it's forecast to. 2.5 and 2.7 if it's the opposite.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

2.8m if they don't advertise on ITV tonight, 3 if they do 2.7 or 2.9 if it's not raining like it's forecast to. 2.5 and 2.7 if it's the opposite.

Its gonna be p!ssing down in Elstree tomorrow evening.

[DigitalSid]

Its gonna be p!ssing down in Elstree tomorrow evening.

I meant everywhere else too.

[Maia]

Incredibly wishful thinking there, Mollie. Have you seen the chair?

You are right actually, 1,507 then

[Marcus.]

I meant everywhere else too.

if it rains it be intesting

[Urban Cragou]

You are right actually, 1,507 then

Still too lenient, Mollie! Take that number and divide it by infinity.

[Toxic]

I predict 1.7 million, and that's if we're lucky tbh

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Remember people predicting CBB8 would get 1 million though and it got over 5m?

Hopefully we might get a pleasent suprise.

[BB IS ALIVE]

I really hope it does well, over 3 million would be great.

[*mazedsalv**]

Remember people predicting CBB8 would get 1 million though and it got over 5m?

Hopefully we might get a pleasent suprise.

I think 5m is very very unlikely, but don't think 3.5m is as unlikely as people make out.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think 5m is very very unlikely, but don't think 3.5m is as unlikely as people make out.

Yeah theres no way we will get 5 million i was just saying.

[Urban Cragou]

I don't agree. Given the comparatively low promotion and all that, a boost in the ratings is extremely unlikely. I'm not saying there won't be, but it's far more likely to not be boosted. For tomorrow's episode I'm still guessing somewhere around 1.66m.

[BB IS ALIVE]

I think it should do quite well, nobody's really paying anything else that is on tonight any attention. Big brother is even Pick of the day on Radio Times.

http://www.radiotimes.com/

I hope this sort of thing has an impact on ratings for tonight :dance:

[DigitalSid]

Doesn't look like the lack of promotion has effected the queue:

https://twitter.com/MaryJoyce_/status/210049874408898561/photo/1

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Doesn't look like the lack of promotion has effected the queue:

https://twitter.com/MaryJoyce_/status/210049874408898561/photo/1

Ofcourse it hasnt.

BB still has a million die hard fans so its not hard to get hold of hundreds.

I should be there but have to work!! GRRRR

BB isnt even trending on twitter yet, i remember in January it was trending for about 5 hours before it even started.

[DigitalSid]

Ofcourse it hasnt.

BB still has a million die hard fans so its not hard to get hold of hundreds.

I should be there but have to work!! GRRRR

BB isnt even trending on twitter yet, i remember in January it was trending for about 5 hours before it even started.

The queue for BB10 was tiny according to people who live near the studios on DS. Yeah but I'm a die hard fan and I wouldn't go in this weather. I wouldn't go anyway though, live too far away (Cardiff) and can't afford it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

This launch deserves atleast 3 million.

Its been great!

Hope its a hit.

[David R]

Because its the end of the bank holiday lots of people's tellys will be on this evening so I reckon 3 million is do-able but around 2 million is likely.

[Black Dagger]

I hope it gets like 3.2 or higher.

Will settle for about 2.8/9

[Jords]

4m would be very good.

[Jordan.]

It seemed like loads of people were watching. Hope the ratings are higher than 3M

[DigitalSid]

It could go either way. It was a bit slow, there were technical difficulties, there were a lot of wannabes and the auditions show wasn't that good but the weather was bad, there was nothing on but Silk (which will win, being on after EastEnders and Holby City) and there were more posts on DS than during CBB9's launch (but that could be because fans prefer the main series). I don't think it will get as much as CBB9 but I think it should do better than last year.

[Jack_]

During the launch I was feeling an average of 1.9m for some reason.

Then I saw the trends on Twitter and some celebrities I follow talking about it, and now I'm thinking about 2.6m.

It's awful though because I'm half/half on whether I want this series to do well - I do because it'd be good, don't because then they'll have to re-evaluate the obvious problems which I'm not going to repeat but most I'm sure are quite aware.

[armand.kay]

Imagine if like 10m tuned in then they all changed the moment they saw the Vegas dancers...

[Jake.]

2.6 million for the launch!! From digital spy

[DS.]

2.6 million (exc. +1)

Could be 2.8-2.9m with +1

[DigitalSid]

Apparently +1 was less than 100k.

[*mazedsalv**]

Still would be nice to know the full rating though incl +1.

[DigitalSid]

Still would be nice to know the full rating though incl +1.

Agreed, just saying, it's 2.6 or 2.7 rather than 2.8 or 2.9 if it got a low two digit K rating on +1 as has been suggested on DS.

[Urban Cragou]

Is this the predictions thread, the actual ratings thread or both? Anyway, here you go:

Tuesday 5 June 2012 - Auditions and Launch

Big Brother's 13th series made a solid start last night (Tuesday), according to the latest overnight data.

Remarkably, the Channel 5 reality show launched with 2.63m (12%) between 9pm and 10.45pm, exactly the same figure as last year's network launch in September.

A peak at The Auditions saw 1.18m (5.1%) tune in at 8pm, while Big Brother's Bit on the Side with Emma Willis logged 821k (6.9%) from 10.45pm.

[*mazedsalv**]

It's both Redway :)

[Urban Cragou]

Still would be nice to know the full rating though incl +1.
I think 2.63m is the full rating incl. +1, but if they're not it probably only mustered less than 100k, as you said, so there wouldn't be any overly significant change. Perhaps 2.7m if they haven't already been included.

[Urban Cragou]

It's both Redway :)

Oh, right. It's just it gets a little confusing having to distinguish between what the predictions are and what the actual ratings are. I think it would be better if we had them separately, but that's just my view. If you're happy for them to stay that way, that's fine. :)

[*mazedsalv**]

Oh, right. It's just it gets a little confusing having to distinguish between what the predictions are and what the actual ratings are. I think it would be better if we had them separately, but that's just my view. If you're happy for them to stay that way, that's fine. :)

We should type the real ratings in bold? We should try and make it stand out.

And the 2.63m is still excluding the +1 so with it should be 2.7m :)

[Urban Cragou]

We should type the real ratings in bold? We should try and make it stand out.

And the 2.63m is still excluding the +1 so with it should be 2.7m :)

Yeah, that would be a lot better, so it's clearer to distinguish, whilst we can still have the predictions on this thread, only they won't be in bold or owt.

And, yeah, I thought so. I'm just a little confused, as Digital Spy usually never misses out the +1 figures.

[*mazedsalv**]

Horrific for Martin Clunes in the ITV flopzone at the same time... 1.6m :eek:

[armand.kay]

Does C5hd count in the ratings?

[*mazedsalv**]

Does C5hd count in the ratings?

Well the 2.63m doesn't count the +1 or the HD (I don't think).

[Urban Cragou]

Does C5hd count in the ratings?

It's a bit unclear but I don't think so. Even then, if it was included it would only be about 100k more, which translates to approximately 2.7m.

[Jack_]

Not bad. I'm not expecting (or hoping really, as bad as that is) it to hold.

now I'm thinking about 2.6m.

:D

[Jordan.]

Launch: 2.6M

:pipe:

Was hoping it'd get over 3M but atleast it's stayed steady on last years launch rather than falling.

[Jords]

Twitter really does throw you off scent you think it does so much better because of all the trends :/

[*mazedsalv**]

With +1, BB got 2.71m.

[BB IS ALIVE]

Good, and maybe when the officials are in than can get bumped up towards the 3 million mark.

[SSL2012]

Considering the severe lack of promo, bb done very well, perhaps 5 will advertise it much better nxt time and the launch will draw around 3.5 maybe 4mil. Be interesting to see if it can stay around 2million.

[iRyan]

What was the Launch ratings last year?

2.7 is pretty decent considering the advertising this year (or lack thereof) was terribly done.

They probably could've gotten 3.5 or something with better advertising and billboards.

[Urban Cragou]

What was the Launch ratings last year?

2.7 is pretty decent considering the advertising this year (or lack thereof) was terribly done.

They probably could've gotten 3.5 or something with better advertising and billboards.

2.63m (12.5%). But I don't think that includes the +1 figures, so it's likely to be around 2.7m, too. The good thing is now more people actually know it's on they'll watch it...if it's interesting enough.

[Jake.]

1.42 for last night (8%)

[*mazedsalv**]

Bad ratings. 1.42m excl +1. :(

I think people are just not interested in the regular series any more. Pantsgate got 2.8m (3.1m officially), it's clear people want celebs.

[Omah]

That is really bad ..... :idc:

[jackc1806]

It was trending worldwide, expected nearly 2m. Lets hope the +1 bumps it to 1.6

[BB IS ALIVE]

I think we can see it's going the same way as BB12, so long as it beats that I think it's safe. If drama in the house picks up and the evictions don't tank like with BB12 then I think it can improve.


Fingers crossed anyway.

[jackc1806]

If they would have promoted it and ****ed off with their 56 celebrity series a year and less overkill it would have done better

[*mazedsalv**]

It will need to get 1.5m+ nightly to average more than BB12. I see this is going to be a problem.

[Omah]

If they would have promoted it and ****ed off with their 56 celebrity series a year and less overkill it would have done better

But over a 1.5 million viewers (from the Launch "peak" of 3m) failed to return for a second day's viewing - that's nothing to do with promotion, celebrity or overkill, surely ?

[jackc1806]

But over a 1.5 million viewers (from the Launch "peak" of 3m) failed to return for a second day's viewing - that's nothing to do with promotion, celebrity or overkill, surely ?

I just think they should have promoted the launch better. More viewers for launch, more people hang on. The launch was good I thought, but it dragged on.

[Omah]

I just think they should have promoted the launch better. More viewers for launch, more people hang on.

Last year's Launch was roughly the same, 2.7m, but 1.7m returned for a second day viewing.

The "reach" for this year's Launch was, apparently, 5m, so 2m viewers took a look and then watched (or did) something else.

[*mazedsalv**]

1.52m incl +1.

We need to expect these ratings. :(

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think it will pick up.

Alot of people may have not watched last night as the first half hour was basically repeated footage from launch and the whole Deana nominating thing was dragged out way to long again.

Yes its bad but i expected it.

Think it will average about the same as last year.

[Urban Cragou]

Wednesday 6 June 2012

Big Brother took its usual post-launch plunge on Channel 5, drawing 1.42m (8%) at 10pm for its first highlights show. Big Brother's Bit on the Side followed with 612k (6.2%).

Not overly impressive, considering last night's successes but it always takes a plunge after the launch. These ratings are typical. The fact that we have Lydia being a total bitch surely hasn't helped, either. :(

[Urban Cragou]

+1 added an extra 100k, so 1.52m.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Wednesday 6 June 2012

Big Brother took its usual post-launch plunge on Channel 5, drawing 1.42m (8%) at 10pm for its first highlights show. Big Brother's Bit on the Side followed with 612k (6.2%).

Not overly impressive, considering last night's successes but it always takes a plunge after the launch. These ratings are typical. The fact that we have Lydia being a total bitch surely hasn't helped, either. :(

HUH?

Since when has bitchiness turned away BB viewers lol

Thats what bb viewers want to see.

[BB IS ALIVE]

100k for +1 at 11pm isn't bad. And with officials it will probably bump up to 1.7, the same as BB12's second eppisode.

[Urban Cragou]

HUH?

Since when has bitchiness turned away BB viewers lol

Thats what bb viewers want to see.

Bitchiness in terms of being an annoying little plonker who almost sobs like a baby when might get nominated for eviction tomorrow. There are 3 people who face eviction and only one of them can get evicted, so there's only a 33.33333...% chance she'll actually get evicted...although following the last night's events she probably has more of a chance. Not mathematically speaking, but logically/socially.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Bitchiness in terms of being an annoying little plonker who almost sobs like a baby when might get nominated for eviction tomorrow. There are 3 people who face eviction and only one of them can get evicted, so there's only a 33.33333...% chance she'll actually get evicted...although following the last night's events she probably has more of a chance. Not mathematically speaking, but logically/socially.

Yes but why would that bring viewers down?

Clutching straws now.

[*mazedsalv**]

The only good thing to say about that rating is that it beats pretty much every HL show of BB12 (only evictions sometimes beat it). It's on after Marco Pierre White's show which has been quite heavily promoted. Hopefully it increases from the 1.5m.

[Urban Cragou]

Yes but why would that bring viewers down?

Clutching straws now.

Clutching straws? Don't you stick that crap on me. Perhaps people want to watch 3-dimensional characters on the television, rather than characters who think constant moaning is entertainment. I refer you to the first sentence of my last post and if you can't understand that then there really is no point continuing this debate with you.

[Novo]

Oh dear

[BBDodge]

1.4 million again last night (excluding +1)

The show has lost half its viewers since moving to Channel 5.

[*mazedsalv**]

Excluding +1 it was at 1.44m. So the +1 could actually round it up to 1.6m. MPW launched with a very poor 860k despite all the promotion.

[Jake.]

Thats not bad, good that there was a tiny rise from the night before!

[BB IS ALIVE]

Pleased that it increased. That Marco Pierre White show was so Boring!! I thought I'd give it a chance because of all the adverts but switched off after 15 mins. Not surprised it tanked.

They really should put BB on at 9pm every night. If they did it would increase C5's primetime shares and would get BB higher ratings.

[Urban Cragou]

Big Brother was solid for Channel 5 with 1.44m (8%) at 10pm.

No, these ratings really aren't too bad. It's doing Channel 5 a world of wonders.

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother was solid for Channel 5 with 1.44m (8%) at 10pm.

No, these ratings really aren't too bad. It's doing Channel 5 a world of wonders.

It's annoying that they haven't reported the +1 ratings. We always have to force it out. No idea what the +1 for last night was yet. Apparently it isn't reported if it's under 100k, but still would be nice to know.

[Urban Cragou]

It's annoying that they haven't reported the +1 ratings. We always have to force it out. No idea what the +1 for last night was yet. Apparently it isn't reported if it's under 100k, but still would be nice to know.

I know. I never understand that. I've looked for them everywhere but they're not there. I'd probably guess around 70-99k more, as it usually does. I don't see it being any lower than that.

[JohnnyBB]

the only way this shows going to get good figures is i theres a hostage situation or somthin.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Atleast ir didnt drop and now we know we have a steady following.

I hope theres a big controvercy which will spread all over twitter like pants gate.

They got over 3 million just because of that argument.

[*mazedsalv**]

Including +1, it got 1.5m.

[Jake.]

not bad at all, whats tonights competition?

[Locke.]

The Alan Carr Show and ITV News

[*mazedsalv**]

not bad at all, whats tonights competition?

The news, Alan Carr and Graham Norton.

[Jake.]

I reckon it will beat Alan and itv news will get 3 millionish..

[*mazedsalv**]

I think Beiber is one one of the shows :(

Hope we can still beat the last 2 nights. A rating of 1.7m would be good. I think that's what the first eviction of BB12 got (Tashie's eviction was the 2nd highest rated eviction after Tom's the day before the finale which got 1.8m). So even a rating of 1.6m will beat most of the BB12 eviction ratings.

[Callum]

Graham Norton has two huge guests in the form of Cheryl Cole and Katy Perry as well so ratings for his show will probably be slightly higher than normal tonight.

[jackc1806]

naah, solid 1.5m tonight i guess

[Jake.]

What does the competition usually get though?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Think it will jump up to 1.7 tonight for the wildcard even though the shows gonna be a bit **** seeing as they have to cram this and an eviction into 1 hour.

[SSL2012]

Tbh, for big brother with all it's history, 1.5mil is poor. But on channel 5 thats a pretty damn tidy rating, considering most shows are lucky to get even a million.

People just need to accept BB is in its 13th series, people lose intrest. But it's obviusly got a cult following of around 1.5million as this and the last series prove.

With advertisement belive it or not people still don't even know its on channel 5, live feed, a wider range of housemates in terms of age, and perhaps if 5 can find a way of broadcasting in Ireland and Scotland the ratings will average around 1.8-2mil a night arguably.

My gut feeling is that whilst 5 may be far from overjoyed with the start BB13 has had, they will be reasonably satisfied with how this run is going so far albeit in these very early stages. And other entertainment programmes on the channel flopping like Kitchen Wars last night with less than 900,000 can only strengthen BB's chances, especially as the marketing for that show was very similar with dedicated idents, extensive promo across the network and advertising on other channels.

I think people do underestimate how valuable even an audience like 1.5m + could be to Channel 5 every night for 9 or so weeks, it might not sound like a lot but especially with the strong young adult following it has it does add a lot of value to the channel. And with the broadcaster exploring every possible avenue to generate new revenue streams, including this week a new product placement deal with a big supermarket chain, it's hard to imagine that even at this level they are not making money from BB, and CBB must be a nice little earner for them indeed.

[oopsimawesome]

Tbh, for big brother with all it's history, 1.5mil is poor. But on channel 5 thats a pretty damn tidy rating, considering most shows are lucky to get even a million.

People just need to accept BB is in its 13th series, people lose intrest. But it's obviusly got a cult following of around 1.5million as this and the last series prove.

With advertisement belive it or not people still don't even know its on channel 5, live feed, a wider range of housemates in terms of age, and perhaps if 5 can find a way of broadcasting in Ireland and Scotland the ratings will average around 1.8-2mil a night arguably.

My gut feeling is that whilst 5 may be far from overjoyed with the start BB13 has had, they will be reasonably satisfied with how this run is going so far albeit in these very early stages. And other entertainment programmes on the channel flopping like Kitchen Wars last night with less than 900,000 can only strengthen BB's chances, especially as the marketing for that show was very similar with dedicated idents, extensive promo across the network and advertising on other channels.

I think people do underestimate how valuable even an audience like 1.5m + could be to Channel 5 every night for 9 or so weeks, it might not sound like a lot but especially with the strong young adult following it has it does add a lot of value to the channel. And with the broadcaster exploring every possible avenue to generate new revenue streams, including this week a new product placement deal with a big supermarket chain, it's hard to imagine that even at this level they are not making money from BB, and CBB must be a nice little earner for them indeed.

Well said! It makes me feel more hopeful that it will continue past the current contract.

[thediaryroomchair]

I think it will as there will always be interest in CBB at least as CBB9 was my favourite series to date on Channel 5 as we had such a mixture of housemates and the ongoing Denise and Michael feud.

[In the Drunk Tank]

No ratings for the eviction yet?

[Patrick]

I went to the shop last night, and for the first time since literally BB7 - when I looked into people's windows on the way down the street, every single person [I kid you not] was watching Big Brother. :bored:

It feels like the ratings should be brilliant, you're all acting like 1.3 etc is brilliant, the excuse 'That's good for Channel 5' shouldn't even come into it anymore - BB13 deserves alot higher than this, that's the bottom line.

So did BB12 mind you. It ******ing sickens me how we need to have a house full of Celebrities for this show to work.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So where are these ratings then???

Grrrr

[Ryan.]

My guess? 1.6 million, peaking at around 1.8

[Urban Cragou]

No ratings for the eviction yet?

No, you'll have to wait a little longer, I'm afraid. Friday ratings always take quite some time to be published, so you can expect a release of them from between 3 and 6pm.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yesterday's BB eviction averaged 1.4m (inc +1)

Piss poor.

[Ryan.]

Yesterday's BB eviction averaged 1.4m (inc +1)

Piss poor.

Disgrace. They can only blame themselves I suppose, with that 10pm slot.

[armand.kay]

Why do they give bb such a late slot? They always get more viewers at 9.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

That's rubbish ratings considering it was the first eviction & there was twist.

[Omah]

Yesterday's BB eviction averaged 1.4m (inc +1)

Piss poor.

Disgrace. They can only blame themselves I suppose, with that 10pm slot.

That's rubbish ratings considering it was the first eviction & there was twist.

Really bad .....

[BBDodge]

Wrong time slot (especially for an eviction), too many housemates for viewers to get to know and care about, too early an eviction, no live feed, even the promised post eviction feed, poor pre-series promotion, poor presenter, poorly edited HL shows, poor website/twitter coverage.

Loads of excuses.

[Jordan.]

It's not bad, last years evictions were getting around the same. Think people need to lower their standards.

[Omah]

It's not bad, last years evictions were getting around the same. Think people need to lower their standards.

You may lower YOUR standards if you wish, but I'm not lowering MY standards for anybody ..... :nono:

[Jordan.]

You may lower YOUR standards if you wish, but I'm not lowering MY standards for anybody ..... :nono:

Says the person who waits hand on foot for a Katie Price news article to be posted online.

[JohnnyBB]

1.4m Is really good considering they had alan carr show on and graham norton.

[Black Dagger]

Says the person who waits hand on foot for a Katie Price news article to be posted online.

OMG :laugh2:

[Omah]

Says the person who waits hand on foot for a Katie Price news article to be posted online.

Oh dear ..... trying to insult me when you haven't checked your facts and can, in no way, substantiate your assertions ..... :nono:

:laugh2:

[iRyan]

At least the viewership has been consistent every episode so far.

I hope this will be somewhat of a wake up call to C5 though that changes need to be made (ie live feed). Its clearly not a coincidence that the lowest rated seasons of BB are the ones without LF. Remember how much the viewership jumped from BB10 to BB11 when they added live feed?

[Big Brotherotica]

Not bad at all considering the time slot and the fact that its on five. Pity we left C4 but better to have BB on 5 than not at all :)

[*mazedsalv**]

1.23m for last night. It beat almost every BB12 Saturday rating.

Edit- It was the 2nd highest Sat rating since BB12 Week 1 (first HL show), the next highest of last year was 1.07m.

[Jordan.]

Glad it did well and on such a good episode :amazed:

Is tonight our first 9pm hl show?

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah, Im worried. It's up against the match :(
But hopefully +1 being at 10pm that it adds a lot to the rating.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Woah im shocked. Was sure it would get under 1 million on a Saturday.

[Locke.]

500k for tonights if it clashes with the Ireland-Croatia match

[Kizzy]

Are the ratings usually higher if the show is on at 9pm?

[*mazedsalv**]

Well 9pm show clashes with Ireland match, so ****!!!

If people are that interested they should watch on +1 at 10pm, and being at 10pm should mean much higher ratings for the +1 channel.

I reckon it could add around 200k+ on +1 tonight.

[thediaryroomchair]

I worry we are going to have a 450-500,000 figure for tonight especially as the football is back on again.

[Loukas]

Tonight deserves 2m+ but obviously because of the football i predict just under 1m. Which is sad because i thought it was one of the best highlight shows in years!!

[Brother Leon]

C5 are so lucky England is on at 5 tomorrow :laugh:

could of been disaster ratings.

[Samuel.]

Definitely won't go below a million. Reckon it'll stay around the 1.5m mark. 9pm is a better start time than 10pm.

[Jake.]

1.2 I reckon, a shame for one of my favourite HL's of past memory...

[Jords]

Best show so far hopefully people tuned in on +1!

[Jack_]

1.3m

[Jordan.]

If we keep getting shows like we have the past few days the ratings have to go up

[Novo]

Early reports suggest 0.9

[Jack_]

If we keep getting shows like we have the past few days the ratings have to go up

I agree, I mean in theory this is the kind of series so far that really should be getting 4m - 5m if not more, as it deserves to, and in the golden years it probably would've, obviously that's never going to happen but you'd hope it'd reach at least 2m.

[billy123]

I agree, I mean in theory this is the kind of series so far that really should be getting 4m - 5m if not more, as it deserves to, and in the golden years it probably would've, obviously that's never going to happen but you'd hope it'd reach at least 2m.
:shocked: honestly jack i have no idea what you are watching.
Good for you that you are enjoying what they are presenting but it is cheap and horribly forced.
I wish i could put my fingers in my ears and my head in the sand and pretend everything was mint banter :joker:
Unfortunately i must have picked a different coloured pill. 4-5 million :shocked:

http://www.dailygrail.com/files/storyimages/morpheus-topline.jpg

[Jords]

10.7m for last night

[billy123]

10.7m for last nightThat was without +1 another 679 trillion watched after the football :elephant:

[Jords]

That was without +1 another 679 trillion watched after the football :elephant:

Now thats just silly :pipe:

[billy123]

Now thats just silly :pipe:Sorry Jords it was just mint banter :joker:

[*mazedsalv**]

1.5m for last night

Held up very well against the match managing to beat the evictions and last nights ratings. It was also only 10k down from Thursdays episode. It BEAT the equivalent first Sunday rating of BB12. (1.45m)

[Jake.]

:D So happy, it done well all things considered!

[Ryan.]

Wow that's quit good :)

[Pronshi]

I really wanna see the demos for the ratings.
If its mainly 16-32 channel 5 will be happy.
Besides that its a fail.

Also channel 5 should keep it on at 9pm!
Its on a 9pm again tonight! :)

[Omah]

So far, the series seems to be retaining its core audience ..... :idc:

[Black Dagger]

It's only going to retain a core audience now, the days of good ratings are over tbh.

Like how it is holding up. =)

[Jake.]

So what did the footie get? Lets be honest here, that really has beaten pretty much everyones expectations for last night :D And after such a great episode, I can imagine most will come back and watch tonight

[*mazedsalv**]

So what did the footie get? Lets be honest here, that really has beaten pretty much everyones expectations for last night :D And after such a great episode, I can imagine most will come back and watch tonight

Footie averaged 7.7m and peaked at almost 9m.

[Jake.]

Madness that even with thatm Big Brother does surprisingly well for CH5

[*mazedsalv**]

I reckon tonight will be tougher. As BB faces the 2 teams that England is to face in their group, so maybe the whole country will want to see what they are up against?

But with +1, I reckon 1.5m can be reached again. I reckon it could be getting 1.7m+ at 9pm without the Euro's being on.

[Novo]

Thinking about it The Football on could be good for Big Brother really because when people are watching TV they get into the habit of it and after the match i bet a good few people switched over to Big Brother, if the match wasn't on people would have probably just did something else and not watched TV at all

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Just to clarify these are the ratings

1.38m and 1.48m with+1

[The_Big_Send_Off]

Quite good I suppose :) just want to see it hittim 2m, this series has great potential with the housemates :D they should keep it on at 9pm! 10pm is to late for some people :/

[Jack_]

:shocked: honestly jack i have no idea what you are watching.
Good for you that you are enjoying what they are presenting but it is cheap and horribly forced.
I wish i could put my fingers in my ears and my head in the sand and pretend everything was mint banter :joker:
Unfortunately i must have picked a different coloured pill. 4-5 million :shocked:

http://www.dailygrail.com/files/storyimages/morpheus-topline.jpg

Now I'm no supporter of the silly editing and montages, and I'm still not happy there's no live feed, but there's no denying this is one of the best casts they have chosen in years. We've not had this much entertainment in a first week in a long time, BB6 as far as I'm concerned - and surely you agree that remains one of the best series ever?

I'm half and half on whether I want this series to succeed. I don't want it to to in effect hopefully prove a point to C5 regarding the live feed, but then I do because I don't want them to drop the main show altogether as I suspect they will do, and because this is shaping up to be a good series.

[Jordan.]

Great for last night :amazed:

[Locke.]

Makes sense actually the Ireland fans probably turned over the Channel 5 after the opening 150 seconds.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Great for last night :amazed:

Really? lol

Are we really thinking 1.48 million is "Great" now?

This series deserves atleast 2 million. I'm pretty sure this will be the last regular series unless the ratings pick up.

[Jordan.]

Really? lol

Are we really thinking 1.48 million is "Great" now?

This series deserves atleast 2 million. I'm pretty sure this will be the last regular series unless the ratings pick up.

Considering it was clashed with the football and still managed to be the highest rated show since the launch, i'd say yeah it was great. A good sign that ratings could improve this year rather than decrease.

[iRyan]

It won't be the last series, they've already ordered two more regular BBs.

[Brother Leon]

Low ratings tonight as half the country will be drowning it's sorrows :(




Or celebrating :laugh:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It won't be the last series, they've already ordered two more regular BBs.

No they haven't they just extended the contract to broadcast BB for another 2 years.

They dont have to run regular BB they can just air CBB if they want.

[SSL2012]

And your proof of that being?? The reality is, bb does fab for five, 1.4-1.8 a night is fab for the channel, no other programme it shows could better that except cbb, and bb is also immensely popular amongst the much seeked 18-36 yr old demographic. Yes by its old standards the ratings are piss poor, but for five its good enough and I belive the figures will increase seeing as it looks set to be a great series.

[Loukas]

tonights prediction - 1.7m

[Jake.]

I reckon 1.6 for tonight, probably 1.4 though

[DigitalSid]

Really? lol

Are we really thinking 1.48 million is "Great" now?

This series deserves atleast 2 million. I'm pretty sure this will be the last regular series unless the ratings pick up.

I'd agree if it was a weekly 6 or 8 part thing getting that against weak competition, but getting that every night (most nights anyway) for 10 weeks, at 10pm most of the time, sometimes against competition like The Euros (like last night) is still very good for Channel 5 (it would be quite decent for Channel 4), they said so back in February. They pay at least the same amount (probably more) as they do for BB on sports rights which only get them just a few hundred thousand more than that on a much less regular basis. Plus it still brings in more 16-34s (the viewers that advertisers want most) than most shows do on other channels.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

That's brilliant ratings are still doing pretty well:hugesmile:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

And your proof of that being?? The reality is, bb does fab for five, 1.4-1.8 a night is fab for the channel, no other programme it shows could better that except cbb, and bb is also immensely popular amongst the much seeked 18-36 yr old demographic. Yes by its old standards the ratings are piss poor, but for five its good enough and I belive the figures will increase seeing as it looks set to be a great series.

I said im pretty sure this being my opinion not a fact.

People seem to think that BB is Channel 5's highest rated show when if you actually done some research you would see other shows on 5 get more viewers.

"Once upon a time" premiered with over 2 million and averaged more than BB and CSI tends to pull in about 1.7 million sometimes even hits the 2m mark.

Didnt Richard Desmond say he would be happy with a 2 million average? It underperforming which sucks because this first week has been great.

Also BB isnt getting 1.7 a night its getting 1.5 and lower. Its mostly in the 1.3 range.

[DigitalSid]

I said im pretty sure this being my opinion not a fact.

People seem to think that BB is Channel 5's highest rated show when if you actually done some research you would see other shows on 5 get more viewers.

"Once upon a time" premiered with over 2 million and averaged more than BB and CSI tends to pull in about 1.7 million sometimes even hits the 2m mark.

BB is their second highest rated show after CBB, Once Upon A Time and CSI are weekly, BB's on nightly for 70 odd days. Also BB and CBB are their own commissions, so they can do their own product placement.

Didnt Richard Desmond say he would be happy with a 2 million average? It underperforming which sucks because this first week has been great.
BB12 got 1.7m in the officials so it only underperformed by 300,000 and CBB more than made up for that.

Also BB isnt getting 1.4/1.7 a night its getting 1.5 and lower. Its mostly in the 1.3 range.
It's only gone under 1.4m once so far this series and that was a Saturday.

As I said in my last post:

http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5195649&postcount=209

The ratings are still very good for Channel 5 and they've said so.

The only reason to worry is that they aren't as good as BB11 and C5 haven't confirmed that they're definitely doing more normal BBs, but they'll confirm what's happening in August.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Im sorry but the ratings are poor.

We should be seeing 2 million but its underperforming in a major way.

Just my opinion but im sure alot of people will try to make the ratings look great.

[DigitalSid]

Im sorry but the ratings are poor.

We should be seeing 2 million but its underperforming in a major way.

Just my opinion but im sure alot of people will try to make the ratings look great.

They're poor by BB standards (though steadier so far this year than they were the last few years on Channel 4), they're not by C5 standards (whether you agree or not is irrelevant, we're on about whether C5 do and whether they'll do more, not you or Channel 4, who would, as I said, also be happy with these ratings if it didn't used to get a lot more for them). Again, read (and preferably reply to) my last two posts (which correct some of your assumptions) and read the interview I linked to with Jeff Ford (in which he comments on BB12's ratings, which look likely to be slightly lower than this years in the officials if the ratings stay like this).

[Urban Cragou]

They're poor by BB standards (though steadier so far this year than they were the last few years on Channel 4), they're not by C5 standards (whether you agree or not is irrelevant, we're on about whether C5 do and whether they'll do more, not you or Channel 4, who would, as I said, also be happy with these ratings if it didn't used to get a lot more for them). Again, read (and preferably reply to) my last two posts (which correct some of your assumptions) and read the interview I linked to with Jeff Ford (in which he comments on BB12's ratings, which look likely to be slightly lower than this years in the officials if the ratings stay like this).
:worship:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They're poor by BB standards (though steadier so far this year than they were the last few years on Channel 4), they're not by C5 standards (whether you agree or not is irrelevant, we're on about whether C5 do and whether they'll do more, not you or Channel 4, who would, as I said, also be happy with these ratings if it didn't used to get a lot more for them). Again, read (and preferably reply to) my last two posts (which correct some of your assumptions) and read the interview I linked to with Jeff Ford (in which he comments on BB12's ratings, which look likely to be slightly lower than this years in the officials if the ratings stay like this).

I didnt understand that. Anyway i was just giving my opinion that i think BB is underperforming.

Thats it.

I also dont see any link to an interview?

[DigitalSid]

I didnt understand that.
Which bit?

Basically, to summarise, it's about whether they're good ratings for C5 not if they're good for BB, and they are (C4 BB's ratings are irrelevant) and read my previous posts.


Anyway i was just giving my opinion that i think BB is underperforming.

Thats it.
It is, again, for BB, it's not for C5.

I also dont see any link to an interview?
Must have edited over it when I was correcting something, here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zSmcuYtXw3QJ:www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/jeff-ford-channel-5/5038127.article+http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/jeff-ford-channel-5/5038127.article&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Which bit?

Basically, to summarise, it's about whether they're good ratings for C5 not if they're good for BB, and they are (C4 BB's ratings are irrelevant) and read my previous posts.


It is, again, for BB, it's not for C5.


Must have edited over it when I was correcting something, here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zSmcuYtXw3QJ:www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/jeff-ford-channel-5/5038127.article+http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/jeff-ford-channel-5/5038127.article&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

I think personally it should be performing better for Channel 5 im not even comparing it to past BB's on Channel 4 because that would be stupid.

Im sure c5 were expecting more than "1.7" (last years average) million people to be tuning into the daddy of reality tv when they bought it.

Whatever they say they must have been expecting it to hit over 2 million.

[The_Big_Send_Off]

I think personally it should be performing better for Channel 5 im not even comparing it to past BB's on Channel 4 because that would be stupid.

Im sure c5 were expecting more than "1.7" (last years average) million people to be tuning into the daddy of reality tv when they bought it.

Whatever they say they must have been expecting it to hit over 2 million.

your saying its not hitting last years average but that '1.7'include the total episode views like including +1,Repeat next day and demand 5 views, so it could still be beating it!

it deserves more views tho! i will be happy if it hits 2m a night

[DigitalSid]

I think personally it should be performing better for Channel 5 im not even comparing it to past BB's on Channel 4 because that would be stupid.

Im sure c5 were expecting more than "1.7" (last years average) million people to be tuning into the daddy of reality tv when they bought it.

Whatever they say they must have been expecting it to hit over 2 million.

CBB did more than half a million better than that (and it gave the CBB8 housemates' spin-off shows a million viewers each afterwords during CBB9), CBB8's launch got over 1.5 million more than they expected.

They can't have been expecting too much from it, the negotiations stalled twice and if it wasn't for it being the last one at the time BB11 would probably have got the same as BB12 did or BB13's getting now, BB10 only got a few hundred thousand more than it.

If they were happy with BB12's ratings, they'll be happy with BB13's, as I said, it's probably going to beat it in the officials.

From what Jeff said in that interview I linked to, it sounds like they expected CBB to do better than BB did, would explain why they did that first.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

your saying its not hitting last years average but that '1.7'include the total episode views like including +1,Repeat next day and demand 5 views, so it could still be beating it!

it deserves more views tho! i will be happy if it hits 2m a night

I'm not saying it not hitting last years ratings though :conf: Im fully aware that last year averaged 1.7.

Im just saying that im sure Channel 5 would have hoped the ratings be over 2 million.

It has however done wonders for their channel which is shown in the ratings increase of other shows and attraction of a younger core audience.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

CBB did more than half a million better than that (and it gave the CBB8 housemates' spin-off shows a million viewers each afterwords during CBB9), CBB8's launch got over 1.5 million more than they expected.

They can't have been expecting too much from it, the negotiations stalled twice and if it wasn't for it being the last one at the time BB11 would probably have got the same as BB12 did or BB13's getting now, BB10 only got a few hundred thousand more than it.

If they were happy with BB12's ratings, they'll be happy with BB13's, as I said, it's probably going to beat it in the officials.

From what Jeff said in that interview I linked to, it sounds like they expected CBB to do better than BB did, would explain why they did that first.

Im not talking about CBB either.

This is the regular BB ratings thread no? To me CBB is a seperate show, im just concerned with the ratings of the regular show right now.

[DigitalSid]

I'm not saying it not hitting last years ratings though :conf: Im fully aware that last year averaged 1.7.

Im just saying that im sure Channel 5 would have hoped the ratings be over 2 million.

And they got 2.6 million in the officials, for both of BB12's celebrity series (CBB8 and CBB9), 600,000 more than than 2 million.

It has however done wonders for their channel which is shown in the ratings increase of other shows and attraction of a younger core audience.

Yeah, as I said above.

[DigitalSid]

Im not talking about CBB either.

This is the regular BB ratings thread no? To me CBB is a seperate show, im just concerned with the ratings of the regular show right now.

But two CBB doing 30% better than that, either side of BB12 (and probably next year's series, if it happens) more than cancels out the fact that BB's getting 300k (probably 200k this series) less than that.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

And they got 2.6 million in the officials, for both of BB12's celebrity series (CBB8 and CBB9), 600,000 more than than 2 million.



Yeah, as I said above.

Why do you keep talking about CBB?

Im talking about the regular series which is what this thread is about.

And in regards to your previous comment BB10 averaged 2.5 million thats a considerable difference from 1.7 not just "a few undred thousand".

[DigitalSid]

Why do you keep talking about CBB?

Im talking about the regular series which is what this thread is about.

And in regards to your previous comment BB10 averaged 2.5 million thats a considerable difference not just "a few undred thousand".

It's 0.8m difference between the officials, the drop between BB9 and BB10 was 1.1m. This series will probably lessen that slightly and is looking like it's going to be up on last years, the first time (not including BB11) since BB7 for the normal series.

[DigitalSid]

Why do you keep talking about CBB?

Im talking about the regular series which is what this thread is about.

And in regards to your previous comment BB10 averaged 2.5 million thats a considerable difference from 1.7 not just "a few undred thousand".

Because:

But two CBB doing 30% better than that, either side of BB12 (and probably next year's series, if it happens) more than cancels out the fact that BB's getting 300k (probably 200k this series) less than that.

(that being Richard Desmond's, who doesn't make the decisions, 2m expectation)

and regardless of whether you view them as the same show, they are. CBB is the celebrity version of Big Brother.

[*mazedsalv**]

Hope it did well tonight!

[DigitalSid]

Hope it did well tonight!

Hopefully. Not that it's relevant, but was it trending much? I wasn't online.

[*mazedsalv**]

Why is this thread no longer a sticky topic? :/

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Because:



(that being Richard Desmond's, who doesn't make the decisions, 2m expectation)

and regardless of whether you view them as the same show, they are. CBB is the celebrity version of Big Brother.

CBB has its own forum and ratings thread.

Why has this thread been de-stickyfied btw lol

[In the Drunk Tank]

CBB has its own forum and ratings thread.

Why has this thread been de-stickyfied btw lol

We had about 10 stickied threads so to try and tidy it up a bit we put all the links to the main threads in one place here (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203172)

[JohnnyBB]

im glad this thread has been de stickyed!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

We had about 10 stickied threads so to try and tidy it up a bit we put all the links to the main threads in one place here (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203172)

Put it back :(

Its like tradition lol

I wake up in the morning, get a coffee and head straight to the ratings thread conviniently placed at the top of the screen.

Do you really wanna be the one to ruin my mornings? DO YOU?!?!

[DigitalSid]

CBB has its own forum and ratings thread.

If you're not going to actually read and reply to what I said (I explained in the post you are replying to why CBB's ratings are relevant to this, not that they're needed), rather than repeating the same two or three lines, it's pointless trying to have this debate. Fact is, Channel 5 don't agree with you and it's their opinion which matters and decides.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Put it back :(

Its like tradition lol

I wake up in the morning, get a coffee and head straight to the ratings thread conviniently placed at the top of the screen.

Do you really wanna be the one to ruin my mornings? DO YOU?!?!

It was getting a bit cluttered at the top of the forum though, the link is still at the top of the page, it's just that it takes 2 clicks to get now instead of 1 :p

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It was getting a bit cluttered at the top of the forum though, the link is still at the top of the page, it's just that it takes 2 clicks to get now instead of 1 :p

If i full over and die tomorrow or sprain my finger from double clicking then you're to blame.

[JohnnyBB]

If you're not going to actually read and reply to what I said (I explained in the post you are replying to why CBB's ratings are relevant to this, not that they're needed), rather than repeating the same two or three lines, it's pointless trying to have this debate. Fact is, Channel 5 don't agree with you and it's their opinion which matters and decides.

Sid Anthony The wild card housemate is in patricks thread.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If you're not going to actually read and reply to what I said (I explained in the post you are replying to why CBB's ratings are relevant to this, not that they're needed), rather than repeating the same two or three lines, it's pointless trying to have this debate. Fact is, Channel 5 don't agree with you and it's their opinion which matters and decides.

I have read all your comments and that interview was a good read but im just saying im focusing on BB13's ratings.

Thats all. No bother.

Tonights episode will get 1.3 i think.

I really just want BB back in everyones faces again i used to love it when all the haters basically got slapped in the face with ratings over 4 million.

What a comeback that would be. Never gonna happen but still over 2 million i would be chuffed with.

[In the Drunk Tank]

If i full over and die tomorrow or sprain my finger from double clicking then you're to blame.

Don't worry I will make sure to bump it just before you wake up

[DigitalSid]

Sid Anthony The wild card housemate is in patricks thread.

Thanks. He's been posting on DS for two or three days I think. Saw one of his posts a few days ago.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

*Sticky me, im wasting away.

[DigitalSid]

I have read all your comments and that interview was a good read but im just saying im focusing on BB13's ratings.

Thats all. No bother.

Tonights episode will get 1.3 i think.

I really just want BB back in everyones faces again i used to love it when all the haters basically got slapped in the face with ratings over 4 million.

What a comeback that would be. Never gonna happen but still over 2 million i would be chuffed with.

But we were on about BB's chances of coming back, that's the part of your original post I replied to, and CBB is relevant to that as 6 weeks of 2.6m (600k more than they said they'd be happy with) more than makes up for the 13 weeks of 1.7m (only 300k less than they were expecting) instead of 2.

CBB8 (2.8m including the 5.3m launch) + BB12 (1.7m) + CBB9 (2.4m, would have got 2.6 if it wasn't for the smaller launch) / 3 = 2.3m

(Even if you only include one of the CBBs, it's still more than 2m)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

But we were on about BB's chances of coming back, that's the part of your original post I replied to, and CBB is relevant to that as 6 weeks of 2.6m (600k more than they said they'd be happy with) more than makes up for the 13 weeks of 1.7m (only 300k less than they were expecting) instead of 2.

CBB8 (2.8m including the 5.3m launch) + BB12 (1.7m) + CBB9 (2.4m, would have got 2.6 if it wasn't for the smaller launch) / 3 = 2.3m

(Even if you only include one of the CBBs, it's still more than 2m)

Yeah thats way to complicated lol.

Im just sticking to night by night ratings for this series BB13 and hoping they pick up.

[DigitalSid]

Yeah thats way to complicated lol.

Im just sticking to night by night ratings for this series BB13 and hoping they pick up.

It's not. BB and CBB's overall official average on Channel 5 so far is about 2.1m (the average official C5 series average including CBB so far is 2.3m) and this year will probably get the same as last year or slightly more, so it's meeting what The Guardian said Channel 5 would be happy with.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It's not. BB and CBB's overall official average on Channel 5 so far is about 2.1m (the average official C5 series average including CBB so far is 2.3m) and this year will probably get the same as last year or slightly more, so it's meeting what The Guardian said Channel 5 would be happy with.

No offence but i see series as a singular event and judge the success on ratings for that series alone.

I dont know why you are clumping together all ratings from 4 different series to make an acceptable average when its clear to see that im talking about BB13 as a stand alone show which it is.

Just judge BB13 ratings on what it actually gets and not combine it with previous series because thats just strange.

The success of BB13 will be down to how it rates alone.

CBB and normal BB are 2 different shows and they should be judged individually.

[The_Big_Send_Off]

I understand what daniel is saying! He means why are people now thinking that 1.4m is an okay rating? When it was getting nearly 3m 2 years ago?

[The_Big_Send_Off]

1.45m last night! Its keeping a steady audience! But just needs to get more attention to help extra viewers tune in

[*mazedsalv**]

That EXCLUDES +1

Including +1, BB received 1.65m. The highest rating since launch. :)

[Black Dagger]

N'aww, good stuff, hopefully it improves again over the next couple of days.