American Horror Story: Hotel - Lady Gaga Wins Golden Globe!

[Smithy]

An orphanage would be a bit too much like asylum for my liking, plus you'd have to have a load of child actors and they're usually ****

[Lostie!]

I've been trying to work out clues for Season 5. I looked online and a lot of people seem to be focusing on a top hat theme running throughout Freak Show, so quite a lot of people thought Season 5 would be set around an army experiment called Operation Top Hat, but that happened in 1953 which is (a: not present day, b: only a year after Freak Show).

[Smithy]

I kind of hope Jessica doesn't come back for S5, i'd like to see what they'd do without her, plus I'm kind of over her playing a washed out old bitch wanting to kill the better looking/talented younger version of her, it's been the same near enough for all 4 seasons

[Lostie!]

I kind of hope Jessica doesn't come back for S5, i'd like to see what they'd do without her, plus I'm kind of over her playing a washed out old bitch wanting to kill the better looking/talented younger version of her, it's been the same near enough for all 4 seasons

Elsa's basically a German, slightly-less evil (but still selfish and narcissistic) Fiona. I'd like Jessica to play an entirely heroic character. Her AHS role that was most different was Sister Jude, because of her character development and ending up as a genuinely good person.

I'm also sick of Evan being the male romantic lead. If he returns next season, I hope his story doesn't revolve around his love life yet again.

I love Frances' characters because she's always so different each time, and always has a quirky / interesting role. :love:

[Jamesy]

Yeah Jessica needs to be put in a purely good role. Evan would suit well as being an evil character too. I actually liked his character Jimmy this season, until the love stories started coming in. It's almost like the writers force themselves to write Evan in a love role. It was pretty unnecessary for Freakshow as Jimmy alone stands as an interesting character.

[Marsh.]

A lot of theories I've seen are based around Elsa Mars/Jupiter/Life on Mars stuff and it'll be space/alien themed. Like Area 51 or something.

I also would like to see what they'd do without Lange. It would be good if she could do a two episode guest spot as a character unlike others she's played.

But part of me thinks they'll just hand over the Lange prototype to one of the other actresses so it won't be all that different.

[Xtopher]

I know a lot of people already hate the ending to Freak Show but I thought it was perfect. It made me happy that it went full circle in the end. + Jessica's send off.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

that ep was messy af :worry:

i am glad that elsa went to heaven :flutter:

[Marsh.]

It was ok. But, again, no plot. :laugh: Just random events.

It started well. I was gutted with Dandy's massacre. I wanted the tall lady to snap his neck.

But that whole heaven thing at the end just felt tacked on.

I'd like them to tell an actual story in season 5.

[Marsh.]

Also, I can't tell you how happy I was that the show ended before she started to sing at the end. :laugh:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

yah overall this season was crap tbh

[Marsh.]

Someone on DS said there's a theory that Dot and Bette's child we saw them pregnant with is Constance Langdon from season 1. :umm2:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

:umm2:

[Donovan.]

I was really sad to see Amazon Eve die, she was one of the only freaks, besides seal boy and his girlfriend, that got some attention and that I cared about. I like Bette and Dot, and I was okay with the actual characters that lived, but Sarah Paulson's gonna have to die by the end of one of these seasons and the fact that it was Bassett, Paulson, and Peters, who survived was predictable.

I did really like the finale, as cheesy as it was, I thought it was kind of beautiful. Dandy's death scene was amazing. And where everything/everyone ended up made this one of the most satisfying AHS finales.

[Donovan.]

Someone on DS said there's a theory that Dot and Bette's child we saw them pregnant with is Constance Langdon from season 1. :umm2:

RM's really trying to connect all of the seasons. I mean he had young Arden be the one to cut Elsa's legs off, so I wouldn't put this past him. Even though there isn't actually anything making me believe that it's Constance, other than the timelines maybe lining up.

[Marsh.]

Oh I didn't spot the Arden connection.

I thought the only Asylum connection was Mary Eunice and Pepper.

[Donovan.]

Yeah, I was pretty sure it was him, because they had James Cromwell's son playing him, but someone else actually spotted that the actor was credited as playing 'young Arden' in the end credits.

[Jamesy]

The guy that fixed Elsa's legs (played by Danny Huston, don't know his character name) said in the penultimate episode in his flashback something like "his name was Hans Gruper", which is Dr Arden's name. Plus it was Cromwell's son playing the role in the Freakshow flashback.

It's a nice link but I really don't like this whole forcing links between seasons thing. With bits like Pepper as a one off I don't mind but I hope this isn't the start of having links in every single season.

[Jamesy]

Oh and Cromwell's son also played the young Dr Arden in Asylum. Just checked and it's the same guy as we saw in the Freakshow flashback so pretty much 100% confirmed as a link.

[Marsh.]

The guy Elsa was in love with in the finale? Was he the one who leaked her snuff movies?

[Smithy]

The Arden connection was reaching a bit (on their part), and if the constance theory ended up being true :umm2:

Anyway, i quite liked the finale, it was nice for a change that they tied up all the loose strings, they didn't leave any unanswered questions, like previous seasons did. I really like Dandys spree, i thought amazon eve was gonna get him with the axe, when she died i was gutted.

Overall though the season has been pretty poor, it took so long for anything to happen, that when it did happen it was predictable as hell. I'm hoping with Jessica's departure as a lead from the show that it gets an overhaul with a fresh concept

[Marsh.]

558122471380234240

So she's definitely gone then.

[Smithy]

That tweet makes it sound like she's dead :umm2:

It felt like the final scene was more of a tribute to Jessica than elsa

[Tom4784]

I thought it was okay, the season as a whole is an improvement over Coven but it's still piss poor in comparison to the first two seasons. AHS needs a complete reboot as it's just becoming so repetitive, there's no point in a new setting and new characters if Evan Peters and Jessica Lange are just going to play the same characters each season. They need to get new writers in and really mix it up next series and Ryan Murphy needs to go. He's ****ing terrible.

[Jamesy]

Yeah they really need to sort the show out for season 5. I liked Freakshow in parts and liked the characters although it was just 13 episodes of random events, with no story going on throughout.

One thing they need to do for season 5 is cut the cast in half. The main problem that started with Coven and became too much in Freakshow has been the larger casts. Cut it out, have a smaller cast, characters we can get to know on a deeper level and a story with a meaning. I know the show has grown to have a great cast of people but really they need to just ditch a load of them, maybe work some of the cast on a 'every two seasons' cycle. Keep the regulars that have stayed since season one and rotate the others.

Freakshow has improved in some places though and we did get more horror in this than we did Coven.

I just hope they do a complete revamp and make it great for the next season, otherwise I cannot see this show holding its viewers and fanbase if season 5 is a mess again.

[Tom4784]

I wouldn't say the size of the cast is a problem, they just need to centralise the plot and the characters and not have them all be disparate to each other. The writers have shown that, even in Asylum, they can't handle multiple plotlines effectively so they just need to focus on one thing.

MH was great because it all revolved around the house and all the characters and the sideplots all had a purpose in relation to that. Freakshow suffered because there wasn't a central plotline and Coven was terrible because they kept changing the central plot every few episodes.

Freakshow would have been great if they only did around 6-8 episodes and focused on the threat of Dandy and Twisty to the Freakshow because as soon as they offed Twisty the series lost it's direction and everything became diluted and bland.

[Smithy]

Yeah they really need to sort the show out for season 5. I liked Freakshow in parts and liked the characters although it was just 13 episodes of random events, with no story going on throughout.

One thing they need to do for season 5 is cut the cast in half. The main problem that started with Coven and became too much in Freakshow has been the larger casts. Cut it out, have a smaller cast, characters we can get to know on a deeper level and a story with a meaning. I know the show has grown to have a great cast of people but really they need to just ditch a load of them, maybe work some of the cast on a 'every two seasons' cycle. Keep the regulars that have stayed since season one and rotate the others.

Freakshow has improved in some places though and we did get more horror in this than we did Coven.

I just hope they do a complete revamp and make it great for the next season, otherwise I cannot see this show holding its viewers and fanbase if season 5 is a mess again.

It felt more like a drama than a horror tbh and i disagree with it being more of a horror than Coven, murder/random killings = horror, it's the disturbing, dark and creepy atmosphere that makes the show a horror, and imo Coven had more of it than FS, there were definitely a lot more moments in Coven when i was like :umm2: or on the edge of my seat.

I think you're kind of right with the cast, it didn't help that the freaks they employed weren't actors, and that half of them had 0 lines or personality, so when they died (like the dwarf and the woman with no legs) it was hard to really care. I think they did it well with Asylum bc they had a pretty large cast with the recurring characters but you still had feelings about them one way or another

[lostalex]

Asylum is still the best season overall imo, but the Pepper episode this season was the best single episode of the entire series. It was an amazing perfect episode.

[Niamh.]

yah overall this season was crap tbh

This.

It started well, same as Coven and then it just went downhill after the clown died i think. they made the same mistake as with Coven, having bits and pieces of stories all over the place but not really running with one thing. The ending was awful, worse than Coven even.

I doubt I'll watch the next Season

[Niamh.]

Asylum is still the best season overall imo, but the Pepper episode this season was the best single episode of the entire series. It was an amazing perfect episode.

That was a good episode and probably because it seemed more like an episode of Asylum, which was perfection

[Smithy]

I can imagine Kathy Bates as the bearded lady.



I think the pinhead girl from Asylum is definitely gonna be back. Pepper.


Ddd psychic teas

[Xtopher]

Season 5 is called HOTEL starring LADY GAGA.

https://amp.twimg.com/v/be6523a7-5a00-40a9-b11e-9e8a216ad272

As a former Gaga stan I'm actually ****ing excited for this. I know she can act and after the Oscars the hype around her has been brilliant.

[Lostie!]

Season 5 is called HOTEL starring LADY GAGA.

https://amp.twimg.com/v/be6523a7-5a00-40a9-b11e-9e8a216ad272

As a former Gaga stan I'm actually ****ing excited for this. I know she can act and after the Oscars the hype around her has been brilliant.

I thought the Lady GaGa thing was a joke, but I just did a search and it's true. :shocked:

[Headie]

Season 5 is called HOTEL starring LADY GAGA.

https://amp.twimg.com/v/be6523a7-5a00-40a9-b11e-9e8a216ad272

As a former Gaga stan I'm actually ****ing excited for this. I know she can act and after the Oscars the hype around her has been brilliant.

Is Smithy alive right now

[Xtopher]

This could be the biggest season yet if Ryan doesn't **** it up.

[Firewire]

jessica lange did not die for this

[Tom4784]

Not here for Gags stealing the HBIC role from Angie or Kathy tbh.

[Firewire]

Not here for Gags stealing the HBIC role from Angie or Kathy tbh.

or frances

[Braden]

I am so excited for this already :love:

I love the 'Hotel' concept :flutter: I love that Gaga is starring in it :love:

[Firewire]

gags is a regular and not just a guest in one episode like i assumed

http://tvline.com/2015/02/25/lady-gaga-american-horror-story-cast-fx-season-5/

[Jay.]

I'm not really here for Gaga being in it :worry: but I'll reserve my judgement for now.

Here for it being set in a hotel though :clap1:

[Xtopher]

All I'm worried for is if it's gonna be too similar to Murder House.

[Firewire]

All I'm worried for is if it's gonna be too similar to Murder House.

I don't think it'll be about ghosts

[Smithy]

Omfgahsndiajvxns

[Smithy]

YAAAAAS So perched for her being a maid that just kills everyone :flutter:

[Xtopher]

Omfgahsndiajvxns

Oh you didn't die.

[Firewire]

YAAAAAS So perched for her being a maid that just kills everyone :flutter:

i swear if she's cast simply to be evan peters' love interest

[Smithy]

i swear if she's cast simply to be evan peters' love interest

Ew no, I don't think she'd agree if it was just that, perched for her killing Evan peters tho :flutter:

[Xtopher]

Oh god, I pray Evan isn't playing another loverboy.

[Braden]

I hope Ryan Murphy takes inspiration from that creepy Doctor Who hotel episode, and puts his AHS twist on it x1000 :love:

I wasn't a huge fan of the episode but the concept was brilliant :love: it would suit AHS even more.

and omfg I can't get over Gaga :flutter: just think of the costumes/make-up/hair (if she's playing someone eccentric).

[Lostie!]

i swear if she's cast simply to be evan peters' love interest

I hope he doesn't even have a love interest this time. I think four seasons in a row of Evan's character having a love story is enough. :idc:

[Jake.]

I think that this could be really great :flutter:

[Smithy]

Apparently she's taken over the lead role that Jessica would have played

http://i.imgur.com/sKf45.gif

[Jake.]

oh

[Jamesy]

I'm all for Gaga as long as she has been cast for her acting abilities and not 'just because' she is Lady Gaga. This will bring in a lot of Gaga fans and I really hope that's not the single reason Murphy and co have brought her in. I always feel actors need to be cast around the roles, rather than the other way round (which is what they have done with Coven and Freakshow in some capacity).

The hotel concept I like and there's a lot they could do with it, but I hope there is a big push for the next season otherwise I'll be losing interest.

[Firewire]

So no ARTPOP 2.0 then?

[Smithy]

So no ARTPOP 2.0 then?

TFM 2.0 is coming instead

https://31.media.tumblr.com/4fbd8325a01373b50016fc1ef2131118/tumblr_inline_nkae8jylg21r33k45.gif

I hope everyones wigs are glued on tightly

[Niamh.]

2 horrendous Seasons in a row, I'll be giving the next one a skip I think

[Samm]

Hotel sounds like a good theme I will be watching the next season

[Glenn.]

Are we living in smithys dreams or...?

I'm intrigued by the theme tbh. Here for GaGa tbh :flutter:

[T*]

i still need to watch the last two eps of FS
here for hotel and gaga
I hope it will be like a mixture of MH and Asylum

[Samm]

I hope Hotel is kind of like Coven :love:

[T*]

I hope Hotel is kind of like Coven :love:

this would be lovely too <3

[Firewire]

apparently it's present day which is good i guess

[Dollface]

i still need to watch the last two eps of FS
here for hotel and gaga
I hope it will be like a mixture of MH and Asylum

same, i lost interest in freakshow, it was crap tbh, i have a feeling hotel will be good though (i hope it's like asylum :flutter:)

[Samm]

apparently it's present day which is good i guess

Yas that's even better

[Braden]

Yay :love: I enjoy the present-day seasons more

[T*]

apparently it's present day which is good i guess

Yas

[Marsh.]

I hope she can act. :worry:

[Marsh.]

I'm thinking it's going to be like 666 Park Avenue. :think:

Lady Gaga is the glamorous owner by day, but the paint spewing, hat wearing, demon possessed murderer by night. :worry:

[Brother Leon]

Lol at Replacing Jessica Lange with Gaga ffs.

[Marsh.]

Lol at Replacing Jessica Lange with Gaga ffs.

Here for Jessica Lange releasing a jazz album with a corpse. :flutter: Nipple 2 Nipple

[Jake.]

Here for Jessica Lange releasing a jazz album with a corpse. :flutter: Nipple 2 Nipple

Bone 2 Bone :clap1:

[Smithy]

Tbh throughout the whole of freak show Elsa was constantly calling the freaks her monsters and she lived for the applause :hehe:

We should have seen it coming

[Firewire]

Tbh throughout the whole of freak show Elsa was constantly calling the freaks her monsters and she lived for the applause :hehe:

We should have seen it coming

I tried looking for clues and couldn't see any. It was right in front of us the whole time.

[Niamh.]

Tbh throughout the whole of freak show Elsa was constantly calling the freaks her monsters and she lived for the applause :hehe:

We should have seen it coming

ahaha that's true :laugh:

As curious as I am about how GaGa will do, i don't think I can sit through another season, it's basically just a 16+ Glee now. Totally different show from Seasons 1 and 2

[Marsh.]

ahaha that's true :laugh:

As curious as I am about how GaGa will do, i don't think I can sit through another season, it's basically just a 16+ Glee now. Totally different show from Seasons 1 and 2

I think it's worth giving it a try, apparently it's supposed to be a "reinvention" so hopefully that means trying something vastly different to the past two.

[Niamh.]

I think it's worth giving it a try, apparently it's supposed to be a "reinvention" so hopefully that means trying something vastly different to the past two.

Meh, the fact that Lady GaGa is the main star now can only mean a hell of a lot more singing

[Marsh.]

Meh, the fact that Lady GaGa is the main star now can only mean a hell of a lot more singing

:omgno:

[Marsh.]

She's going to be a killer that kills her victims during a musical number isn't she? :worry:

She kills Frances Conroy during a rendition of Judas.

[Marsh.]

Is she definitely the main star though?

I find that a tad disrespectful to Kathy Bates and a few of the others if I'm honest. :unsure:

[Niamh.]

Is she definitely the main star though?

I find that a tad disrespectful to Kathy Bates and a few of the others if I'm honest. :unsure:

Yeah, Sarah Paulson should be the main star imo

[Marsh.]

Yeah, Sarah Paulson should be the main star imo

:clap1: Yes, they need to give her a horrid villainous role. She'd be so good as the baddie for once.

[Niamh.]

:clap1: Yes, they need to give her a horrid villainous role. She'd be so good as the baddie for once.

Yeah, I don't think they mix the characters up enough. Most of them end up playing a really similar character every season. I loved how Sarah paulson managed to play two very different personalities in Freak Show though

[Marsh.]

Yeah, I think that's one of the more underwhelming parts of seasons 3 and 4, they don't seem to take advantage of the fact that they are self contained stories and change things as drastically as they could. Comes across very lazy.

Either that or they don't have much faith in the versatility of the actors.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, I think that's one of the more underwhelming parts of seasons 3 and 4, they don't seem to take advantage of the fact that they are self contained stories and change things as drastically as they could. Comes across very lazy.

Either that or they don't have much faith in the versatility of the actors.

yep exactly. That was one of the things I was excited about with this kind of format but they haven't used it at all

[Smithy]

I'm hoping thats what they mean by saying a reinvention, the actors will be playing really different rolls for a change, and seeing as its set in the present day I'm hoping they don't give gags any singing to do (unless it something like the name game where it's a delirium state and it adds something, not like freak show where they just put in a number for the sake of it) it'd be quite cool to if someone said to her "has anyone ever told you you look like lady Gaga? "No?!" :fan: or if her music was playing in the background whilst she's decapitating someone :flutter:

[Marsh.]

Do we know if she can act yet?

Not here for her being the main bitch and being all wooden. :think:

[Marsh.]

Taissa Farmiga and Emma Roberts have new shows so will they not be able to do it? :amazed:

[Jake.]

Do we know if she can act yet?

Not here for her being the main bitch and being all wooden. :think:

Well she's been in a couple of films

[Jake.]

Taissa Farmiga and Emma Roberts have new shows so will they not be able to do it? :amazed:

erm excuse you

(idc about Taissa though)

[Marsh.]

I know. I love Vera Farmiga in Bates Motel though. She is just :lovedup:

[Smithy]

Yes Gaga can act have you not seen the Marry The Night music video :nono:

[Jake.]

urgh Sarah might not be returning apparently

[Marsh.]

Yes Gaga can act have you not seen the Marry The Night music video :nono:

I don't watch music videos that run for 20 minutes as though they're some kind of arty movie. :idc:

Unless made by Miss K Clarkson of course.

[Marsh.]

urgh Sarah might not be returning apparently

:omgno:

[Jake.]

Gags has always been theatrical, I'm sure she'll do okay

[Smithy]

She will be, she said she's always going to put AHS first, plus she RT'd gagas tweet yesterday

[Jake.]

She will be, she said she's always going to put AHS first, plus she RT'd gagas tweet yesterday

Oh good stuff, I was worried then

I'm 3 eps into Freakshow and if it continues with this standard then I won't have a problem with it

[Marsh.]

So do we have to wait like six months before we get any concrete information on the story/characters?

[Smithy]

So do we have to wait like six months before we get any concrete information on the story/characters?

Paleyfest is March 15 where the main cast will be unveiled and probably the main synopsis of the show

[Niamh.]

I'm hoping thats what they mean by saying a reinvention, the actors will be playing really different rolls for a change, and seeing as its set in the present day I'm hoping they don't give gags any singing to do (unless it something like the name game where it's a delirium state and it adds something, not like freak show where they just put in a number for the sake of it) it'd be quite cool to if someone said to her "has anyone ever told you you look like lady Gaga? "No?!" :fan: or if her music was playing in the background whilst she's decapitating someone :flutter:

Yeah. It seems to be that when they saw what a hit that name game scene was in Asylum, they took it to mean that we want to see that all the time, which is certainly not the case for me anyway. I loved the name game scene but it fit, it was a bizarre scene but a one off

[lostalex]

wow, great achievement for Gaga... she's on Basic Cable!

if her acting in her videos is anything to go by, she's gonna make Emma Roberts looks like an Oscar worthy actress.

[Smithy]

wow, great achievement for Gaga... she's on Basic Cable!

if her acting in her videos is anything to go by, she's gonna make Emma Roberts looks like an Oscar worthy actress.

She's just landed the lead role in a TV show, yes that is a great achievement :umm2:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

we don't know she is the lead yet :nono:

[Smithy]

Pretty sure she is though, don't see why they'd have her announce the whole show if she was just gonna be a recurring character

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

probably just using her to get promo for the show?

[Smithy]

Wouldn't have had her film a video for it (she probably wouldn't agree to the video either) they'd have just announced the show and added her name to it

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

ok bitch

[Smithy]

https://24.media.tumblr.com/b2d810d1bc3f05e3e4cad24ad3ec75e2/tumblr_mj8yhq2tpj1qh5rcwo1_400.gif

[Smithy]

https://36.media.tumblr.com/accf5f79b359f57647865d4059d04f3a/tumblr_nkatnixYVS1r2xdqdo1_540.png
https://41.media.tumblr.com/a61d6d44b4c68206d2106f6ca47b4934/tumblr_nkatnixYVS1r2xdqdo2_540.png

perched for the lesbian scenes

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i hope the hotel is like a disguise for some cult thing or whatever and they are using the guests for some sinister purpose like experiments or something and they drug them so they don't actually know how long they have been there for :flutter:

[Braden]

I hope the hotel sends people into a state of delusion (the shining teas) and they start seeing really ****ed up things in different rooms.

[Jake.]

i hope the hotel is like a disguise for some cult thing or whatever and they are using the guests for some sinister purpose like experiments or something and they drug them so they don't actually know how long they have been there for :flutter:

omg

[Smithy]

I just hope there's an actual plot, I want to be asking wtf from the beginning to the end

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

omg what if it is like some kind of hostel scenario where people buy the guests to torture/kill them :worry:

i am here for this season being the most ****ed up yet yall http://i.imgur.com/C9iNBGy.png

[Smithy]

omg yes, scott you should be hired as a writer :clap2:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

:clap1:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

smithy remember when we were bff's on kik and were writing that fanfic

[Smithy]

yes omg English Horror Story: My Cold Cup of Tea

[Braden]

I know this is quite similar to Murder House but what if it's like a trap that people can't get out of?

Like a maze almost, and obviously the characters meet each other along the way and play into the plot.

Actually that sounds like Saw and Saw is ****

[Smithy]

that sounds like that dr who episode

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

it was my lukewarm coffee :nono:

[Braden]

I did not just read the synposis to that DW episode and reword it...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

it obviously meant more to me than it did you

[Smithy]

it was my lukewarm coffee :nono:
well whatever :hmph:
it obviously meant more to me than it did you

you were the writer i was just there for the credit

[Smithy]

I did not just read the synposis to that DW episode and reword it...

:joker::joker:

[Daniel.]

Everyone though Freak Show would be darkest/best yet, and look how that turned out :shrug:

[Smithy]

noone thinks this is going to be the darkest one, we're just hoping/speculating

[Firewire]

Looks like Frances will be stuck in a lift after all :clap1:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

smithy you were such a slut on kik when you first got it you would send me pictures of you with no shirt on all greased up sat in front of a rose bush and i would comment on how you looked like you were in a lana del rey vid

[Smithy]

what has that got to do with AHS :nono: and that makes it sound like i was sending actual topless pictures, you could literally just see my shoulders

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

you were sending actual topless pictures because i complimented your shoulders once and you are a narcissist so you kept sending more i loved it

[Smithy]

omg no i wasn't i hate myself topless so i wouldn't send you pics :umm2: the most i think you ever got was half a nipple

[Firewire]

Scott is correct, it was sexual harassment.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Scott is correct, it was sexual harassment.

:sad:

[Smithy]

WHY IS THIS IN THE AHS THREAD :umm2:

[Cal.]

Omg so I watched like the first 5 episodes last night I am hooked but there's no money in the account until tomorrow to renew Netflix ugh this could not have happened at a worser time I'm so excited to watch

[Firewire]

Oh wait Scott said he loved it, so it wasn't sexual harassment

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

there are pics of ha nipples on tumblr somewhere http://abload.de/img/16426027q9onk.gif

[Firewire]

Niall teas

[Smithy]

Omg so I watched like the first 5 episodes last night I am hooked but there's no money in the account until tomorrow to renew Netflix ugh this could not have happened at a worser time I'm so excited to watch

http://www.cartoonhd.is/show/american-horror-story

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

omg jonathan your comment on his bath pic

"dad" :joker:

[Firewire]

omg jonathan your comment on his bath pic

"dad" :joker:

lmao

[Firewire]

I love me

[Cal.]

http://www.cartoonhd.is/show/american-horror-story

Yaaasssss tysm x

[Smithy]

I love me


at least someone does

[Firewire]

at least someone does

don't be ****ing rude.gif

[Smithy]

also, confirmation she's the lead

TVLine has learned that Lady Gaga is set to headline the forthcoming fifth season of Ryan Murphy’s FX anthology series

http://tvline.com/2015/02/25/lady-gaga-american-horror-story-cast-fx-season-5/

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

anyway

[Cal.]

Okay so opinions on Murder House...

Absolutely amazing, probably one of the best TV shows I've seen. It says a lot that I have a record for not being able to watch anything unless it's airing on TV - but I finished the season in 4 days and I don't regret it at all. The whole concept of the house and the ghosts was amazing, I loved that there was just a circle of about 10/12 characters and that even though there was so many backstories and so many people dying in the house...it never felt rushed or over crowded and it all just seemed to flow perfectly. Ben was a little annoying as the lead, and I didn't feel invested in Vivien as much as I should have been I feel - but I loved Tate, Constance, Violet and all the prominent ghosts (Hayden and Nora were my faves - but the gay couple were also hilarious but also provided some villainy when they were needed). Moira the maid was also brilliant - the murder of the not so Persian guy was both hilarious and ew at the same time. Marcy the estate agent:love: My only critcism is I think that episode 11 should have been the finale - and should have just been extended to include Ben's death and Constance raising the baby - episode 12 didn't feel like a finale much at all and felt unnecessary except the parts I mentioned that should be included in episode 11.

[Lostie!]

Okay so opinions on Murder House...

Absolutely amazing, probably one of the best TV shows I've seen. It says a lot that I have a record for not being able to watch anything unless it's airing on TV - but I finished the season in 4 days and I don't regret it at all. The whole concept of the house and the ghosts was amazing, I loved that there was just a circle of about 10/12 characters and that even though there was so many backstories and so many people dying in the house...it never felt rushed or over crowded and it all just seemed to flow perfectly. Ben was a little annoying as the lead, and I didn't feel invested in Vivien as much as I should have been I feel - but I loved Tate, Constance, Violet and all the prominent ghosts (Hayden and Nora were my faves - but the gay couple were also hilarious but also provided some villainy when they were needed). Moira the maid was also brilliant - the murder of the not so Persian guy was both hilarious and ew at the same time. Marcy the estate agent:love: My only critcism is I think that episode 11 should have been the finale - and should have just been extended to include Ben's death and Constance raising the baby - episode 12 didn't feel like a finale much at all and felt unnecessary except the parts I mentioned that should be included in episode 11.

It's great that you enjoyed it so much. :)

Really good point about the finale, I liked it but you're right that the penultimate episode (extended to include some bits from episode 12) could have served as a brilliant finale itself (and probaby a more emotionally-affecting finale). :)

[Firewire]

I always thought that the finales were pointless. Same went for Asylum, too. The penultimate episodes pretty much feel like a fitting end.

[Smithy]

Freak Show finale was good because it tied up any/all loose ends (even though it could have all happened 6 episodes earlier)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

freakshow was a mess in general

[Firewire]

Freak Show finale was good because it tied up any/all loose ends (even though it could have all happened 6 episodes earlier)

i agree, i really liked the finale

[Daniel-X]

I've never posited in here before but I've watched murder house, asylum and coven. I way he's them in the summer though so can't remember much but I definitely think that Coven is the best. Does anybody have a link so that I can watch freakshow? I can't wait to see sister Mary Eunice again :D. It is just me who finds Murder house overrated also I pave watched it twice now but for me it doesn't seem to piece together I thought only people what died in the house what Violet, Ben and Vivienne lived in so I don't get why Tate is alive and why the students he killed fame to life on Halloween but anyhow. I didn't really rate asylum that much apart from Sister Mary Eunice who is perhaps my favourite AHS character tied with Madison from Coven. Coven I think is amazing it's written perfectly and brilliantly casted I think I got to make more of a relationship as a viewer with Fiona than I did Constance and I cried when Fiona died even though she was a bitch. I loved every character in Coven and I hope that some characters like Misty and Madison appear again in other series I'm the future

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

she is only in it for like 5 mins :sad:

[Daniel-X]

she is only in it for like 5 mins :sad:

OMG no :bawling:

[Daniel-X]

Is Lady Gaga appearing in the next series? :cheer2:

[Cal.]

Okay opinions on Asylum...

Extremely good - didn't think I'd like it as much as Murder House but it's definitely better. I loved all the plots and it really had me on the edge of my seat. Sister Mary Eunice, Sister Judge ( :bawling: ) and Lana were all brilliant in my opinion. I hated Doctor Arden but he was a brilliant villain (kind of). I really loved the plots, the Nazi one was intruiging, and the Bloody Face angle was excellent. The only thing I wasn't really sure on was the alien aspect, didn't think it was really needed. But the overall tone of the Asylum was excellent and this series was much better wrapped up than Murder House, I loved how the story completely changed pace and tone in the last two and I loved seeing Briarcliff slowly detoriate even more and it was actually compelling to see Judy still in there struggling, but her ending was brilliant. Amazing series, loved it from start to finish.

2>1


On to Coven...

[Cal.]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/e513775c0ce3dcd4b23b90afb64cdfe1/tumblr_mg6czeWvIl1qfhq5jo1_500.jpg

screaming:joker:

[Samm]

you will enjoy coven :love:

[Jarrod]

I recently started watching this. I didn't enjoy Murder House at all however as for Asylum..

Asylum was one of the most intriguing, dark and twisted pieces of television ever. The characters were just so interesting and different to anything I've watched before. I always enjoy things that are based around Asylums or sanity, as it's interesting to watch. I thought that the story behind Sister Jude eventually being admitted to Briarcliff was upsetting but I was gripped, and with Sister Mary being possessed too - brilliant.

The story with Doctor Arden being a Nazi was brilliant. I enjoyed hating the character and hating him for what he did to the inmates. I agree with Cal above with the aliens aspect. I don't think it was needed in the story, and the series would have been strong enough to carry itself without the aliens. Lana and Kit were really really strong characters and they were great to watch. Evan Peters is fantastic, and as for Sarah Paulson, her acting was incredible. I loved how evil Sister Jude was in getting Lana admitted to Briarcliff and making her experience the harsh treatment. I could speak forever about the series so I'll just end it with the fact I thought it was a phenomenal series.

I'm starting Coven and I'll probably finish it by the weekend.

[Jarrod]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/e513775c0ce3dcd4b23b90afb64cdfe1/tumblr_mg6czeWvIl1qfhq5jo1_500.jpg

screaming:joker:

:laugh2: Brilliant!

[Daniel-X]

Okay opinions on Asylum...

Extremely good - didn't think I'd like it as much as Murder House but it's definitely better. I loved all the plots and it really had me on the edge of my seat. Sister Mary Eunice, Sister Judge ( :bawling: ) and Lana were all brilliant in my opinion. I hated Doctor Arden but he was a brilliant villain (kind of). I really loved the plots, the Nazi one was intruiging, and the Bloody Face angle was excellent. The only thing I wasn't really sure on was the alien aspect, didn't think it was really needed. But the overall tone of the Asylum was excellent and this series was much better wrapped up than Murder House, I loved how the story completely changed pace and tone in the last two and I loved seeing Briarcliff slowly detoriate even more and it was actually compelling to see Judy still in there struggling, but her ending was brilliant. Amazing series, loved it from start to finish.

2>1


On to Coven...

You will adore Coven. Sister Mary Eunice is too one of my favourite characters. Coven in my opinion is the best by far. I hope you're a Madison stan like me. Covens really dark in some parts but unlike the other two there's some elements of comedy and personally I think Jessica Langes best character is Fiona she's 100x better than Constance. Fiona's got more depth I think and I actually felt sorry for her where as I just despised Constance with a passion. Tate is better than Kyle I'll say that but Zoe is better than Violet. Madison is the best character ever she's like a witch version of Regina George.

[Daniel-X]

I recently started watching this. I didn't enjoy Murder House at all however as for Asylum..

Asylum was one of the most intriguing, dark and twisted pieces of television ever. The characters were just so interesting and different to anything I've watched before. I always enjoy things that are based around Asylums or sanity, as it's interesting to watch. I thought that the story behind Sister Jude eventually being admitted to Briarcliff was upsetting but I was gripped, and with Sister Mary being possessed too - brilliant.

The story with Doctor Arden being a Nazi was brilliant. I enjoyed hating the character and hating him for what he did to the inmates. I agree with Cal above with the aliens aspect. I don't think it was needed in the story, and the series would have been strong enough to carry itself without the aliens.

I'm starting Coven and I'll probably finish it by the weekend.

I hope you enjoy coven I think you will it's the best one.

[Jarrod]

I hope you enjoy coven I think you will it's the best one.

I hope so! I've heard good things about it.

[Cal.]

The first episode of Coven was better than the first episodes for Murder House and Asylum for me:love:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

misty :flutter:

[Marsh.]

misty is gay

[Cal.]

I've seen like two mins of Misty so I can't say she's great yet.

[Daniel-X]

Misty, Madison and Sister Mary Eunice > Any other AHS character

[Daniel-X]

I forgot about how good Myrtle was :flutter: the fashionable bitch

I forgot how amazing it was when she took Leslie Jordan's eyes out with the melon ball thing

[Daniel-X]

Only thing what ruined Coven for me was when Kyle killed Madison I really hate all of Evan Peters characters in the AHS series.

[Cal.]

http://www.mtv.com/news/2096063/american-horror-story-hotel-top-hat-clue-explained/

Apparently Hotel could be set in the 1930s, during the 'Golden Age' of Hollywood.

[Smithy]

Ugh, i was hoping for a present season again

[Smithy]

Although i'd be perched for them playing famous celebs for that time involved in really awful stuff like murder and torture and sick stuff that you always hear about happening back then

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

what stuff :suspect:

[Marsh.]

If done properly, setting it in the 30s could be quite good.

[Smithy]

idk, didn't they auction people off for sex and stuff, imagine if they did that then girl killed them like O-Ren in Kill Bill :amazed:

[T*]

i want a modern one

[Cal.]

They could do something similar to H.H Holmes too :amazed:

[Marsh.]

If it was set in the modern day I could see it being a bit too "666 Park Avenue" tbh.

[Smithy]

I bet any money they pull a psycho and have someone murdered in the shower/bathroom

[Marsh.]

I remember them using the Psycho music in season 1. :amazed:

They did do a lot of horror movie homages back then.

[Smithy]

There was quite a lot in Freak Show too, but i don't think many people picked up on them

[Cal.]

There was some music from Carrie in Asylum too.

[Jarrod]

Jessica Lange and The Name Game in Asylum was fantastic :love: Imagine the possibilities of songs she could do in Hotel if its set in Hollywood!

[Jarrod]

I finished Coven this evening!

Spoilers in here..
I have to say, in terms of storyline I think Coven was stronger than Asylum, especially with the end of the story/conclusion. I think that with Asylum the story had been told within 11 episodes and the last two were pointless and just for the sake of filling up the time. I think Coven was better in this sense, with the story actually carrying on right until the end with a satisfying conclusion. There weren't as many scary aspects to Coven which I enjoyed. I think that helped me enjoy it that little bit more.

I liked how Coven was set in modern day too. Madison and Queenie were brilliantly written characters. I think the storyline with Fiona and Cordelia was an interesting addition to the story with the lack of mother/daughter love with and Cordelia becoming the supreme.

That brings me to the only bit I found boring. I hated how the characters were constantly saying "I'm the supreme" and bickering over it. It felt a bit repetitive and it really got boring near the end. I felt that the storyline involving Marie Laveau could have had a bigger ending than her just being killed and sent to hell? It felt a bit... underwhelming and like it had just been brushed under the carpet. Overall though I really enjoyed the series.

[Braden]

I can't wait to hear details on Hotel :flutter:

I had high expectations for Freakshow (which dissapointed me), but I have a feeling Hotel will be a really good one.

[Glenn.]

I finished Coven this evening!

Spoilers in here..
I have to say, in terms of storyline I think Coven was stronger than Asylum, especially with the end of the story/conclusion. I think that with Asylum the story had been told within 11 episodes and the last two were pointless and just for the sake of filling up the time. I think Coven was better in this sense, with the story actually carrying on right until the end with a satisfying conclusion. There weren't as many scary aspects to Coven which I enjoyed. I think that helped me enjoy it that little bit more.

I liked how Coven was set in modern day too. Madison and Queenie were brilliantly written characters. I think the storyline with Fiona and Cordelia was an interesting addition to the story with the lack of mother/daughter love with and Cordelia becoming the supreme.

That brings me to the only bit I found boring. I hated how the characters were constantly saying "I'm the supreme" and bickering over it. It felt a bit repetitive and it really got boring near the end. I felt that the storyline involving Marie Laveau could have had a bigger ending than her just being killed and sent to hell? It felt a bit... underwhelming and like it had just been brushed under the carpet. Overall though I really enjoyed the series.

http://i.imgur.com/hns8oKu.jpg

[Jarrod]

http://i.imgur.com/hns8oKu.jpg

I'm sorry, I'm confused?

[Daniel-X]

I'm intrigued by hotel unlike the other names e.g. Murder house, freakshow it doesn't really give a lot away about what will be happening. I hope Gaga doesn't disappoint which I'm sure she won't :flutter: I'm just awaiting the return of her teacup she used to always carry around tbh

[Jake.]

having it set in the 30's sounds really good

[Tom4784]

I finished Coven this evening!

Spoilers in here..
I have to say, in terms of storyline I think Coven was stronger than Asylum, especially with the end of the story/conclusion. I think that with Asylum the story had been told within 11 episodes and the last two were pointless and just for the sake of filling up the time. I think Coven was better in this sense, with the story actually carrying on right until the end with a satisfying conclusion. There weren't as many scary aspects to Coven which I enjoyed. I think that helped me enjoy it that little bit more.

I liked how Coven was set in modern day too. Madison and Queenie were brilliantly written characters. I think the storyline with Fiona and Cordelia was an interesting addition to the story with the lack of mother/daughter love with and Cordelia becoming the supreme.

That brings me to the only bit I found boring. I hated how the characters were constantly saying "I'm the supreme" and bickering over it. It felt a bit repetitive and it really got boring near the end. I felt that the storyline involving Marie Laveau could have had a bigger ending than her just being killed and sent to hell? It felt a bit... underwhelming and like it had just been brushed under the carpet. Overall though I really enjoyed the series.

No.

The story of Coven was piss poor, there was no overall plot and any attempts to form a coherent plotline were dropped every few episodes for something else. Asylum told a complete story from start to finish, it was focused and while it wasn't perfect it was miles upon miles better than the hack and slash ****stain that was Coven.

[Jarrod]

No.

The story of Coven was piss poor, there was no overall plot and any attempts to form a coherent plotline were dropped every few episodes for something else. Asylum told a complete story from start to finish, it was focused and while it wasn't perfect it was miles upon miles better than the hack and slash ****stain that was Coven.

Well, that's what I thought. I found Asylum more entertaining, but I did enjoy Coven.

[Cal.]

Just finished Coven...

I'll agree with some of the comments in this thread - the story was a bit all over the place. Stories were picked up and dropped after just a few episodes (The Minotaur Man attacking the house once and raping Queenie only to never be talked about again is a prime example) as somebody already said, and I actually couldn't wait to finish the series. I think the characters and the original backstory is what made me keep watching - I think some of the characters (Madison, Misty, Myrtle) are some of the best from the show, and I liked the take on comedy.

I think the show lacked any grittiness - Asylum had a lot in the Bloody Face murder spree both past and present, Dr Arden's work, Lana, Jude and Kit being false imprisoned, the electroshock therapy ect, as did Murder House with the backstories of the back street abortions, baby murders, and the constant death. Coven had no real grittiness apart from Kathy Bates' obsession with experimenting on black men, and I think this is what provided me with the most interest - in another season it probably would have just been another sub plot but because there was no other gritty plots I was hooked. The Axeman thing also provided a bit of interest, but could have been explored further than the 5 mins we got at the beginning of the episode - other than that he was just a love sick puppy for Fiona and randomly gained superpowers to murder all those men.

Anyway, the characters were good and I loved Cordealia as the supreme. Angela Bassett was also an amazing addition to the cast and I loved her character - I felt her and Kathy Bates' characters deserved more of a climax than just being sent to hell though. I liked Fiona's ending and it was well deserved. So yeah, wasn't enough gritty for me but the characters were fierce and I enjoyed a few moments - it wasn't all bad, there was just not enough strong plots like there should be in AHS to keep me gripped besides Kathy Bates' backstory and Who Is The Supreme?

[Marsh.]

I agree. I'd have liked more of a conclusion to the Angela Bassett/Kathy Bates stuff rather than focussing the last few episodes entirely on the bickering teenagers trying to outdo one another.

[Cal.]

ok

[Samm]

I agree. I'd have liked more of a conclusion to the Angela Bassett/Kathy Bates stuff rather than focussing the last few episodes entirely on the bickering teenagers trying to outdo one another.

That was one of the highlights stay in your lane

Misty still trapped in the school frog science class <\3

[Braden]

The more time goes by I realise how ****ed up that is :(

Poor Misty doesn't deserve to be in hell

[Marsh.]

That was one of the highlights stay in your lane

Misty still trapped in the school frog science class <\3

The actual test was good but they spent way too long on the girls saying "I'm the supreme" to one another instead of getting on with the plots.

[Daniel-X]

I don't know why but I like coven the best however reading back I realise there was some flaws at the time though in the summer I enjoyed watching that one the most. I defiantly think the best guarantees came out of that series every character was amazing.

[Cal.]

Ugh I want Freak Show to go on Netflix, CartoonHD adverts are irritating.

[Daniel-X]

I really want to watch freakshow I wish I knew it was on Fox in September otherwise if have watched it then. One of my friends who watched I though told me it was the worst one so far

[Daniel-X]

Ugh I want Freak Show to go on Netflix, CartoonHD adverts are irritating.

Liking the sig :) Marie :love:

[Tom4784]

Coven had some of the characters but everything else about it was a ****show though. There was a lot of wasted potential in that season.

[Daniel-X]

I'm awaiting the return of Hayden from series 1 tbh I loved her character. Kate Mara is a brilliant actress too

[Firewire]

apparently this is the leaked hotel theme?

https://soundcloud.com/robcyc0/american-horror-story-hotel-theme-leaked

[Marsh.]

Sounds like something someone's done as a parody.

[Firewire]

Sounds like something someone's done as a parody.

correct

[Jake.]

clearly real then

[T*]

Jonathan I got excited and then I pressed play you stupid bitch

[Marsh.]

:hehe:

[Firewire]

Jonathan I got excited and then I pressed play you stupid bitch

:joker:

[Jake.]

I agree. I'd have liked more of a conclusion to the Angela Bassett/Kathy Bates stuff rather than focussing the last few episodes entirely on the bickering teenagers trying to outdo one another.

Completely agree, all of it just seemed to come for a halt

[Samm]

sounds like a mix of gaga shouting something and some sheep noises welp lmao hew could think that was real

[Firewire]

I knew it wasn't real :joker:

[Smithy]

Someone on IMDB posted this (apparently they've been reliable in the past but i'd take it with a pinch of salt either way)

LADY GAGA will star in AHS for at least 3 seasons as the lead and the rumors that HOTEL would be a musical are false.

Gaga's character is described as a "beautiful, strange, yet sophisticated heiress- knees deep in debt- who runs the HOTEL and will do whatever it takes to keep it up and running, regardless of the tragic and disturbing events that have taken place there."

According to my sources, this will not be a Ghost/Supernatural season like Murder House, but a satanic cult, corrupt politicians, secret societies, and other strange guests that have been guests at the Hotel for years. Gaga character discovers the Hotel's variety of guests are up to no good and begins allowing their rituals, meetings, etc. to take place only if they begin to pay more. A young married couple, who are also the leads check in to find that the Hotel is extremely corrupt and get caught in the middle of a dark force that won't allow them to leave.

Jessica Lange is supposed to return for the premier and finale as the older version of Gaga's character who kicks off the new story by telling it to a few characters.

Hotel will take place in modern time and will have flash backs to the 70's and 80's.

Kathy Bates, Evan Peters, Angela Bassett, Finn Wittrock, Frances Conroy, and Wes Bentley are set to return along with several new faces and big names. Jessica Lange is returning but only for 2 episodes- the first and last- as a special guest star.

[Braden]

That sounds quite interesting.

I always envisioned politicians taking their secret gay lovers to the hotel for some reason? Call me Mystic Meg if it's true.

Not here for Fittrock returning though :umm2: I hope he's not playing a character as annoying as Dandy this time around.

[Jamesy]

Quite like the sound of all that. Really hope this season will be a step up from Freakshow.

[Marsh.]

LADY GAGA will star in AHS for at least 3 seasons as the lead

D:

[Cal.]

but where are Sarah and Lily ugh not here for it

[Firewire]

not jess lange coming back to do gaga's character better

[Marsh.]

Jessica Lange is supposed to return for the premier and finale as the older version of Gaga's character who kicks off the new story by telling it to a few characters.

Sounds like quite a nice way to "pass the baton".

Although not here for her stealing the rightful limelight from Basset, Bates and Paulson. :nono:

[Jay.]

idk if I can watch it if she's the lead. it would put me off it completely. No offence @ anyone who likes her, but she's just not my cup of tea :worry:

[Marsh.]

That description is making me think of the dirty parties in Eyes Wide Shut.

Not here for Gaga running orgies.

[Smithy]

idk if I can watch it if she's the lead. it would put me off it completely. No offence @ anyone who likes her, but she's just not my cup of tea :worry:

She's playing a character though sis :fan:

[Firewire]

but where are Sarah and Lily ugh not here for it

Sarah's the lead in American Crime Story so she probably won't be in Hotel as a regular

[Cal.]

Sarah's the lead in American Crime Story so she probably won't be in Hotel as a regular

I thought she said AHS would always come before ACS though?

Perhaps she changed her mind when they replaced Jessica with Gags and not her.

[Jay.]

She's playing a character though sis :fan:

I know, that's why I'm going to wait and see if she's alright in it.

her face annoys me though welp

[Cal.]

Hopefully there's more returning than that anyway.

[Firewire]

I thought she said AHS would always come before ACS though?

Perhaps she changed her mind when they replaced Jessica with Gags and not her.

https://tvline.com/2015/01/18/fargo-season-2-fx-american-crime-story-premiere-date/

This says ACS isn't airing until 2016, I assumed it was this year so maybe Sarah will be back

[Marsh.]

Says "early 2016" so I'm guessing it will film around the same time as AHS. :shrug:

[Smithy]

ACS was due to start filming sometime in the next few months :think:

Paleyfest is in 4 days so most of the cast will be confirmed then, but i don't doubt Sarah will be back

[Jamesy]

If Sarah goes the same way as Lily Rabe and only appears for a short stint in Hotel I will be very upset.

[Marsh.]

Maybe they'll swap and Lily Rabe will get a bigger role this time.

[Cal.]

It doesn't say anything about Lily coming back either.

[Samm]

So is hotel later this year or next year

[Firewire]

october

[andybigbro]

I'm thinking of starting a new show, should I start watching this?

[Jake.]

I'm thinking of starting a new show, should I start watching this?

Yes

[Niamh.]

I'm thinking of starting a new show, should I start watching this?

Seasons 1 and 2 are really good, Seasons 3 and 4 are pretty rubbish (imo of course)

[Glenn.]

S1 and 2 are outstanding lbr

[andybigbro]

Yes

Ok thanks :D

Seasons 1 and 2 are really good, Seasons 3 and 4 are pretty rubbish (imo of course)

Ahh ok, I think I'll watch it soon then. Plus by season 3 I'll be hooked so I stick by it no doubt :p

[andybigbro]

How many episodes in a season? Is it like 20 odd?

[Niamh.]

around 13 I think

[Jarrod]

How many episodes in a season? Is it like 20 odd?

13 episodes :)

[Marsh.]

Season 1, 2 and 3 are good. Just the second halves for 1 and 3 are a little crap.

Season 4 was just boring.