The BB15 Ratings Thread

[daniel-lewis-1985]

In my opinion the 1.4/1.6 officials is what it should be getting in overnights to really be seen as succeeding and not 1.1 million its just lame.

With the success of BB14 CBB13 I expected the audience to stick, obviously I assumed it would drop for the world cup episodes but most episodes don't even face the world cup, its like once or twice a week right? and with no competition it still comes last in its slot on alot of occasions now and barely gets over 1 million.

I honestly cant even back up the ratings or put a good spin on them as much as I would like to.

[mrmattybeck1]

It's not excuses it's facts the football has damaged the series ratings :laugh:

I swear you only go on here to slag off the ratings and moan about live feed
it wasn't against the football last night it only got a pittfull 1m without plus one

[mrmattybeck1]

In my opinion the 1.4/1.6 officials is what it should be getting in overnights to really be seen as succeeding and not 1.1 million its just lame.

With the success of BB14 CBB13 I expected the audience to stick, obviously I assumed it would drop for the world cup episodes but most episodes don't even face the world cup, its like once or twice a week right? and with no competition it still comes last in its slot on alot of occasions now and barely gets over 1 million.

I honestly cant even back up the ratings or put a good spin on them as much as I would like to.
Same ppl blaming the football but there was nothing on last night and could only get 1.1m that's really poor

[Kai Anders]

Can we all just agree that ratings are both good and bad and okay to satisfy everybody. It's clear this thread has very little with the actual ratings and is based more solely on opinions.. If you feel the need to speak your opinion, then that's fine, but i don't get why everybody feels the need to pick at others opinions. If you don't believe them, you don't need to tell them every time.

I for one think that yes, the overnights are not good, while I think the officials are great considering the bad negativity through Facebook, twitter, word of mouth and this very own site, along with the competition of football etc and a load of other factors..

BB has become less about the show and more about people's opinions, which are never on a happy medium. For the sake of pages and pages of the same disagreements with each other can we please get on with the ratings, without unnecessary comments, it's not fun or interesting to read.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Can we all just agree that ratings are both good and bad and okay to satisfy everybody. It's clear this thread has very little with the actual ratings and is based more solely on opinions.. If you feel the need to speak your opinion, then that's fine, but i don't get why everybody feels the need to pick at others opinions. If you don't believe them, you don't need to tell them every time.

I for one think that yes, the overnights are not good, while I think the officials are great considering the bad negativity through Facebook, twitter, word of mouth and this very own site, along with the competition of football etc and a load of other factors..

BB has become less about the show and more about people's opinions, which are never on a happy medium. For the sake of pages and pages of the same disagreements with each other can we please get on with the ratings, without unnecessary comments, it's not fun or interesting to read.

Its a thread to debate.

You cant just leave a comment giving your opinion and then tell us all to agree to disagree.

[Will.]

what did last nights get?

[JohnnyBB]

Last night's debut episode of The100 is the highest rating programme launch ever on E4- 1.7m/8.1% share

Channel 5 BenefitsBritain was second most watched in the 9pm hour, drawing 2.51m/11.7%.


Look at E4 bringing in new record highs and theres suppose to be football.

[sampvt]

In my opinion the 1.4/1.6 officials is what it should be getting in overnights to really be seen as succeeding and not 1.1 million its just lame.

With the success of BB14 CBB13 I expected the audience to stick, obviously I assumed it would drop for the world cup episodes but most episodes don't even face the world cup, its like once or twice a week right? and with no competition it still comes last in its slot on alot of occasions now and barely gets over 1 million.

I honestly cant even back up the ratings or put a good spin on them as much as I would like to.

The logical reason why the figures have dropped and not recouped is simple. The football took away some viewers that have since lost interest due to the fact that they missed too many episodes and switching back on, only to be interrupted by hubby once again for the footie finals, isnt worth it. The numbers will pick up slightly after the footie finals but only if BB get some serious tabloid intervention with a big story like a HELEN / ASHLEIGH FISTICUFFS OR A BIG SEX SCANDAL. That might make the GBP sit up and switch back on but alas, this year, the lack of fun and inventive tasks are hitting the show really hard.

Helen and Ashleigh are carrying the show at the moment and its not enough. Even the Steven Kimbo sticky fingers episode wont help as it was expected and most people with a brain can see how many wannabees the show has this year and are unwilling to support them. Its all getting very boring and predictable and the BB production team are lagging too far behind to catch up.

[billy123]

Last nights rating were very good. I will leave it for salv to post :)

[@bbuk_fans]

1.31

[*mazedsalv**]

BB gets highest ratings in 4 weeks. 1.31m excl +1, so around 1.4m including. Thanks to Benefits programme which got 2.51m incl +1

+1 rating may be higher than usual due to the last moments of the show.

Excluding +1 it came 3rd in it's slot.

[Jamesy]

7.8% share too, which is excellent!

Weird the Benefits program does so well. I find it pretty boring to watch so don't bother. Does good for C5 though.

[Will.]

Thats brillant, hopefully it will get similar ratings when the world cup finishes as it wasn't on last night. Armageddon starts next monday, so it should get great ratings if this monday got about 1.4 with +1

[Will.]

7.8% share too, which is excellent!

Weird the Benefits program does so well. I find it pretty boring to watch so don't bother. Does good for C5 though.

I dont get why people like benefits programmes, I don't know anyone who watches them but theres obviously popular as a lot of people watch them.

[JohnnyBB]

We can only pray steven finger blasted again last night! Hopefully by the end of the week she'll be pregnant that would give raitings a bigger boost.

[*mazedsalv**]

Sadly any momentum will be lost with the Brazil semi final tonight, shame because the show tonight looks explosive.

[Vladimir]

That's really good! :D

[CaudleHalbard]

I dont get why people like benefits programmes, I don't know anyone who watches them but theres obviously popular as a lot of people watch them.
Benefit claimants are the new hate figures. People prefer to hate than to love....... sadly.

[*mazedsalv**]

According to this it got 90k on +1 which brings it to 1.40m.

https://sites.google.com/site/tvratingsuk/ukratings2014/monday-7-july-cube-benefits-britain-rise-money-saving-meals-falls-rhs-draws-17m

[Jamesy]

I dont get why people like benefits programmes, I don't know anyone who watches them but theres obviously popular as a lot of people watch them.

Same. I know no one who watches it either.

I guess since people in general look down on those who claim they like watching this type of thing to fuel their anger even more.

[Samm]

Nice, hopefully it gets more when the twist starts next week

[Will.]

Same. I know no one who watches it either.

I guess since people in general look down on those who claim they like watching this type of thing to fuel their anger even more.

Yeah, I agree

[Vanessa]

According to this it got 90k on +1 which brings it to 1.40m.

https://sites.google.com/site/tvratingsuk/ukratings2014/monday-7-july-cube-benefits-britain-rise-money-saving-meals-falls-rhs-draws-17m

http://media.tumblr.com/36c52558e179a12fa5c25e25d0381f70/tumblr_inline_mpd73q26Oj1qz4rgp.gif YAY! :cheer2:

[Will.]

Ironic how BB 14 most viewed highlight show was week 5 Monday which got 1.77 (Daley's Ejection aftermath), and BB 15 highest ratings highlight show so far is week 5 Monday with 1.40.

[Vanessa]

Ironic how BB 14 most viewed highlight show was week 5 Monday which got 1.77 (Daley's Ejection aftermath), and BB 15 highest ratings highlight show so far is week 5 Monday with 1.40.

I think it's doing well, considering the World Cup is still on. :)

[Jake.]

Very good

[Brother Leon]

Nice. Next two days will be messy though.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Its so random that 200k more people decided to tune in lol it wasn't just the finger blast as that +1 rating of 90,000 wasn't really any different from the usual +1 gets.

Benefits Britain is doing amazingly well.

Isnt it annoying though that whenever something big happens a world cup game happens or its a frigging Saturday when less people are watching.

Tonight is going to be explosive from the clips weve seen, the boys had to step in and stop Helen and Ashleigh.

[Will.]

Yeah it was pretty random, but there wasn't much competition and there wasn't match and maybe benefits viewers though they would watch. Hopefully it gets similar tonight as people will want to come back too see how Stephen and Kim are getting on.

[Rob!]

Good to see the show is still capable of pulling in those type of figures - h
Will the football bleed into the +1 showing tonight?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yeah it was pretty random, but there wasn't much competition and there wasn't match and maybe benefits viewers though they would watch. Hopefully it gets similar tonight as people will want to come back too see how Stephen and Kim are getting on.

Its up against the football tonight think which is a shame as it looks like its gonna be a good episode.

Does anyone know what bots got last night?

[Will.]

Its up against the football tonight think which is a shame as it looks like its gonna be a good episode.

Does anyone know what bots got last night?

Yeah Its annoying, football does not interest me unless England are playing. Strange how like 8 M watch the world cup, I don't know anyone who will watch it unless England are playing.

[mrmattybeck1]

A bit better I must say but will be down tonight sadly

[mrmattybeck1]

I still remember the days bbuk used to get 5m daily those were the days :)

[CaudleHalbard]

The novelty of BB wore off years ago. There are so many other 'reality' shows now. We are saturated.

[Kai Anders]

Very happy with yesterday's rating! I'd like to think BOTS had a tiny boost, over the 'finger-blast' hype! It's a shame tonights episode will probably not garner the same result, however I'm sure official figures could pose good if people want to see the possible aftermath of last night, and this big argument! I think for the first time in a long time, I'm quite looking forward to tonight's episode!

[Will.]

I reckon last night got 1-1.1 M. Very surprised if it got higher, and wouldn't be so surprised if it got less.

[sampvt]

If they had a production team with a few 'O' levels, the show might do better.

**** tasks, free passes, racist and homophobic issues being covered up, **** tv times, Rylans doing ok but Ian Lee is a prick, Biased BBBOTS, crappy storylines, irregular punishments and an overall contempt for the viewers is enough to kill any show.

When the day comes that the prods listen to the fans, they might recover. I suggested years ago that a think tank of fans needs to be established, but they didnt call me, lol.

[billy123]

Last nights wont be great.

Germany's extraordinary 7-1 victory over Brazil was watched by a huge peak audience of 13.98m/57.8% last night. @GaryLineker

[*mazedsalv**]

Last nights wont be great.

Germany's extraordinary 7-1 victory over Brazil was watched by a huge peak audience of 13.98m/57.8% last night. @GaryLineker

Huge!!

UK TV Ratings ‏@TVRatingsUK 3s
Coverage of #BRAvGER averaged 11.52m/51.0%. The match began with 11.23m, jumped to 13.13m at 9.20, then remained above 13m until full time.

[*mazedsalv**]

Looks like C5 escaped by far the least hurt than the other channels whilst facing the footie. You can't say CSI and BB's fanbase aren't loyal! BB came 3rd in its slot, it was not far off ITV which got 1.8m.

Against the football...

ITV (+1 in brackets)
Love Your Garden - 2.7m (2,8m)
Benidorm - 1.4m (1.5m)
News at Ten - 1.7m (1.8m)
Piers Morgan Life Stories - 700k (800k)

BBC2
University Challenge - 1.4m
Shopgirls - 1.2m
Best of Sarah Millican - 700k
Newsnight - 400k

C4
Kirsty's Fill Your House For Free 1.3m (1.5m)
Beauty Queen or Bust - 600k (700k)
Ramseys Kitchen Nightmares - 500k (700k)

C5
Dog Rescuers - 1.2m (1.3m)
CSI - 1.1m (1.2m)
BB - 1m (1.1m)

[Will.]

Pretty good when the World Cup got 13 Million!! Compare that to some days which got like 900k and had no big games as competition.

[Samm]

Very good since it was against the highest rated footballl matched and survived not going under 1 million

C4 got destroyed

[Vladimir]

Wow, that's a loyal fan base! It definitely deserved more but it did more than well against the match!

[*mazedsalv**]

I think BB is holding up very well against the semis. Last night got 1.09m excl +1 (up 60k on the night before without +1), with +1 it would be around 1.15m-1.18m I would predict.

[CaudleHalbard]

I imagine it is still one of C5's highest rated shows and therefore pretty safe for the foreseeable future.

[mrmattybeck1]

Viacom takes over c5 officially on Monday I believe wounder wat their plans are I think cbb is fine but civilian bb not sure what the future for that is

[mrmattybeck1]

I think BB is holding up very well against the semis. Last night got 1.09m excl +1 (up 60k on the night before without +1), with +1 it would be around 1.15m-1.18m I would predict.
I think if the show was done right decent cast live feed better spinoff show and better editing it could be capable of getting 2m a night

[CaudleHalbard]

I think if the show was done right decent cast live feed better spinoff show and better editing it could be capable of getting 2m a night
You could be right.

It does need a major refresh though with new ideas.

[mrmattybeck1]

You could be right.

It does need a major refresh though with new ideas.
Yep if renewed next year is Viacom and c5s big chance to really revamp it I also want some new producers as well

[Vanessa]

Pretty good when the World Cup got 13 Million!! Compare that to some days which got like 900k and had no big games as competition.

yes! i think this series is holding up well against the world cup. :cheer2:

[Samm]

Hopefully It gest good ratings on Friday since there is no Football and it has stayed above 1 Million for all of the Football this week

[*mazedsalv**]

I think if the show was done right decent cast live feed better spinoff show and better editing it could be capable of getting 2m a night

Thing is, bringing LF will help, but I think the promotion is the thing that would help the most. If it launches with 2m then there's no way it will stay like that through the run, it always drops, regardless how good a series is. For it to average 2m across the run, it needs a 3m+ launch figure and the way they need to do that is promote it intensely!

This year launched with 2.1m, so I knew it wouldn't stay above 1.6 in the overnights. Had it launched with 3.5m for example, then it would be averaging around 2.5m.

I'm thinking the producers can't wait for January's CBB and hope it does as good as CBB13 did. I mean these ratings are staggering for Ch5...

CBB13 Launch- 3.69m
Lee's Eviction (3 days before final)- 3.63m
CBB13 final- 3.71m *peak of 4m.

[CaudleHalbard]

Although this is a "miserable" house with not much fun, it seems to be doing well.... in the circumstances.

[Vanessa]

Although this is a "miserable" house with not much fun, it seems to be doing well.... in the circumstances.

I love it. It's a great mix of housemates. :D

[Samm]

Thing is, bringing LF will help, but I think the promotion is the thing that would help the most. If it launches with 2m then there's no way it will stay like that through the run, it always drops, regardless how good a series is. For it to average 2m across the run, it needs a 3m+ launch figure and the way they need to do that is promote it intensely!

This year launched with 2.1m, so I knew it wouldn't stay above 1.6 in the overnights. Had it launched with 3.5m for example, then it would be averaging around 2.5m.

I'm thinking the producers can't wait for January's CBB and hope it does as good as CBB13 did. I mean these ratings are staggering for Ch5...

CBB13 Launch- 3.69m
Lee's Eviction (3 days before final)- 3.63m
CBB13 final- 3.71m *peak of 4m.

I am hoping they will axe the Summer CBB this year it gets like a Million less than the Winter CBB does, there is no need for the Summer Version

[mrmattybeck1]

We don't even know yet if Viacom are renewing bbuk and cbb fingers crossed we should know in the next month or two

[*mazedsalv**]

We don't even know yet if Viacom are renewing bbuk and cbb fingers crossed we should know in the next month or two

There is no way that CBB will be axed. It would be like ITV all of a sudden cancelling IAC, BGT and X Factor on the same day.

[mrmattybeck1]

There is no way that CBB will be axed. It would be like ITV all of a sudden cancelling IAC, BGT and X Factor on the same day.
Agree just hope civilian bb is renewed as well

[Rob!]

1.09 (5.0%) for last night.

[Jake.]

Another decent rating against the footie

[Will.]

Decent rating against the football!!

[Sam:)]

Being completely honest this series is doing shockingly. Should be over the 1.5 mark consistently, People are forgetting that half the time big brother isn't even competing against the football. There is just no hype around this series whatsoever. Especially when you compare it to the last CBB. I know CBB rates higher but we should have held on to at least an extra 200-300k of them.

[Rob!]

I'm slightly concerned about how it's going to do for the first couple of days of Armagaddon - it's up against the first two episodes of the new series of Utopia.

[Jamesy]

I doubt the Armageddon week will improve figures at all tbh. It might get a few peoples interest although the damage was already done on launch day in my eyes.

Agree just hope civilian bb is renewed as well

I'm sure they will. Even though figures have been lower this year they will know why figures have been low and know what to do to get them up next year. I'm hoping if it gets renewed Viacom provide them with more money to invest into the show so it can get a good boost next year.

At the moment it feels very cheaply done with no promotion. If they promoted the show prior to launch figures would be far better. Sadly they seem to only bother promoting CBB heavily now.

[Yaki da]

I'll be turning off if Ashleigh goes. But the Aramgeddon twist might boost it a little. But when it becomes the damp squib it so obviously will be, more will turn off

[*mazedsalv**]

If tonight if 1.3m+than I don't think we need to worry at all. Monday managed 1.40m, so the twist next week could do 1.5m on the Monday?

[Rob!]

If tonight if 1.3m+than I don't think we need to worry at all. Monday managed 1.40m, so the twist next week could do 1.5m on the Monday?

I would presume tomorrow's eviction will kick everything off for Armagaddon as there aren't any special shows before Monday - mind you evictions haven't been rating much better if at all better than HLs recently so we shall just have to see. Any idea if the 1.09 from last night is with +1 or not Salv? I nicked the rating off you on DS :hehe:

[jackc1806]

It's holding up well. Especially for C5. C4 has fell apart at 10pm this week.

[Iceman]

Does anyone know what the 1 million pound drop got last series??

[*mazedsalv**]

I would presume tomorrow's eviction will kick everything off for Armagaddon as there aren't any special shows before Monday - mind you evictions haven't been rating much better if at all better than HLs recently so we shall just have to see. Any idea if the 1.09 from last night is with +1 or not Salv? I nicked the rating off you on DS :hehe:

It's excluding +1. The google rating site suggests it got 60k on +1 which brings it to 1.15m, but need to clarify that.

[Kai Anders]

I am hoping they will axe the Summer CBB this year it gets like a Million less than the Winter CBB does, there is no need for the Summer Version

They'll never axe it because it's still up from regular BB usually by around 500-700K. Yes it's not as popular as Winter CBB, but they're hardly going to drop something that does even better than another series. If they were to drop any series, in terms of ratings - which makes money - it'd most certainly be the regular version.. even though not many are in favour of Summer CBB it often comes in 2nd or 3rd in it's time-slot, which almost all other Channel 5 shows fail to do.. sorry!

[Kai Anders]

I'm slightly concerned about how it's going to do for the first couple of days of Armagaddon - it's up against the first two episodes of the new series of Utopia.

I wonder if Utopia will be a success or not, having missed the first season, I would certainly not watch it.. also the ratings for it's episodes are as followed: 1.70m, 1.45m, 1.42m, 1.52m, 1.21m, 1.15m. Some of those last ratings are similar to what the current BB achieves.. hopefully with the right advertisement through air and social media, enough people can be persuaded back to BB, especially as Utopia has such a niche market, compared with BB, whose audience is still fairly wide.. I also think BBs wide youth audience wouldn't bat an eye to Utopia! I imagine BB Armageddon will do well. However I do feel it will be pipped to the post ratings wise ever so slightly by C4. Nonetheless, the ratings for 18-35 year olds for BB are likely to be far higher, something channel's are more interested to target due to the ease of more purchasing power on disposable items! Let's hope for a good run!

[Kai Anders]

I doubt the Armageddon week will improve figures at all tbh. It might get a few peoples interest although the damage was already done on launch day in my eyes.



I'm sure they will. Even though figures have been lower this year they will know why figures have been low and know what to do to get them up next year. I'm hoping if it gets renewed Viacom provide them with more money to invest into the show so it can get a good boost next year.

At the moment it feels very cheaply done with no promotion. If they promoted the show prior to launch figures would be far better. Sadly they seem to only bother promoting CBB heavily now.



I read somewhere that Viacom's Channel 5 budget was going to be way bigger than it stands today as they care about the quality of programming and are less concerned with initial costs due to the large scale of the company. I doubt they'd get rid of regular BB over CBB, can you imagine the uproar! It'd also probably mean a decline in CBB ratings if that were the case, I mean, a million people still watch regular BB, I'm pretty sure a large majority would watch the CBB series too, remove that and CBB could be unfavourable.. look at C5 and C4 ratings.. so many people turned off out of pure disgust for C4 to cancel the show, and have never come back!

I also think Viacom would do well with promotion. Look at Geordie Shore, that gets weeks of promotions, and not just on MTV.. I've seen it advertised on ITV before.. and it works! It's the most successful MTV show, regularly hitting over a million viewers per episode, and is near par with this year's BB overnight ratings.. In my eyes. Viacom taking control of BB and CBB can only be good! As long as the boards of Viacom insist that BB Producers promote well. Not tacky! We all have to remember, C5 actually has little control over BB. Instead BB producers have changed the design of the show to suit what they believe a more youthful audience want.. which channel 5 wanted!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They'll never axe it because it's still up from regular BB usually by around 500-700K. Yes it's not as popular as Winter CBB, but they're hardly going to drop something that does even better than another series. If they were to drop any series, in terms of ratings - which makes money - it'd most certainly be the regular version.. even though not many are in favour of Summer CBB it often comes in 2nd or 3rd in it's time-slot, which almost all other Channel 5 shows fail to do.. sorry!

Im sure last summers was only up by about 300/400k.

Also why are people suddenly agreeing with the idea them scrapping BB and keeping CBB is a possibility now when I got abuse for even suggesting such things last week lol.

[thediaryroomchair]

I think Viacom will steer Big Brother towards the Channel 4 days and pick housemates who are members of the public rather than being on the cusp of fame. I do not feel that it is fair for the people that have submitted audition tapes on Youtube that this years housemates to have been pre-selected. That is what is turning people off.

There seems to be constant friction. It can impact the show in two ways. It can serve to attract more people to watch as they would be intrigued to see what is going on and what the dynamics are or it can go the other way and be a turn off.

Sadly, it appears to be the latter. I know there will never be peace and harmony in Big Brother throughout the whole duration as that is being idealistic but it seems to be every day on this forum that someone is falling out with someone else.

This is for me is killing Big Brother.

[Samm]

I think Viacom will steer Big Brother towards the Channel 4 days

I agree with you on that and someone said on the last page that Viacom care more about the program than the money it makes and the Current C5 do hire some people for Big brother who will generate gossip for example Helen this year

[Cal.]

I agree with you on that and someone said on the last page that Viacom care more about the program than the money it makes and the Current C5 do hire some people for Big brother who will generate gossip for example Helen this year

I hope they do but apparently according to people the 'glamour housemates' will only get worse with Viacom on charge, somebody said it from USA on an article about Viacom taking charge of Big Brother.

[Rob!]

I hope they do but apparently according to people the 'glamour housemates' will only get worse with Viacom on charge, somebody said it from USA on an article about Viacom taking charge of Big Brother.

Considering Viacom are in charge of the likes of Geordie Shore, I can't imagine the quality improving drastically.

[Cal.]

Considering Viacom are in charge of the likes of Geordie Shore, I can't imagine the quality improving drastically.

Me either, only thing that gives me hope is that they're willing to invest more into it because they're such a big company

[daniel-lewis-1985]

What makes any of you think they would steer it into the Channel 4 days?

If anything Viacom will make it ALOT more explicit think BB5 but far more sex. Do you not know what type of shows they produce this isn't BBC1 taking over its a company who broadcast highly controvercial reality tv shows.

[Kai Anders]

Viacom is a massive company, perhaps one of the largest globally. Some of the channels they own include: BET, MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon, Nick Jr., Comedy Central as well as Paramount Pictures.

I imagine Viacom taking charge of C5 is clever. It suits very well. Look at C5s Sunday movie slots.. that would fit perfectly with new releases from Paramount if they're interested in bigger ratings, while Milkshake performs well for young children, coinciding with the Nick brand for little kids. VH1 used to have a focus for music, though, like MTV and BET is more reality and entertainment based. Also, Viacom has hundreds of American programmes on air.. this works well with the endless amounts of US imports the channel has, look at 5USA! A whole dedicated channel!! I'm sure much of the C5 structure will be similar, however the fact that they had announced a much larger budget on C5, improving the quality of the 5 News network too, and the fact that they want a deeper input into British home-grown TV shows suggests that it could be a channel for all and elements could be both higher and lower class to suit a wider market, its wide audience will probably be similar as it is now, perhaps with better shows through higher funding.. but who knows! It'll take at least a year to fully understand whether this would turn out a success or not.. The Great British public aren't always open to new!

I doubt it'd make C5 more favourable in terms of viewership than Channel 4, but nonetheless, holding an extra 6% in the British market, (C5, 5*, 5USA and +1, HD and +24 channels) with which they already own 3% across all their channels already, to make a 9% share of the entire British market is fair. Channel 4 and it's endless number of channels isn't shy at around 11%, ITV has around 20% and BBC has around 27% so perhaps C5 won't be the sole benefit, but more-so the rest of Viacom's channels, allowing for easier promotion of shows, on print and TV and increasing jobs in the UK media industry.

Viacom is currently the 8th biggest TV company in Britain in terms of ratings. The BBC is first, followed by ITV, C4, C5, BSkyB, UKTV then Virgin. Viacom taking control of C5 as it stands today would mean the company jumps from 8th place to 4th, not bad just for purchasing some channels!


For those worrying about the state of Big Brother, and from my understanding of the company and video interviews I have seen of the 'big man' in charge at Viacom, Big Brother wise, I'm sure if Big Brother is an issue for the company, they'd move it to a later slot or one of their other 10+ channels. If that is the case, they need to learn from C4 and would need some SERIOUS money! You can't just remove BB and have nothing to follow up. That's about 13 hours a week of extra programming.. which relates to 13, 1 hour shows for several months... that would mean (including CBB) close to 200 hours to be filled with other shows throughout the year.. and with the CSI franchise slowly winding down let's hope Viacom stick to their word and are sensible with their money.

The fact that Big Brother is perhaps the largest show for the channel today (okay, not always in terms of ratings, but that depends on the series!) should be enough to suggest they need to improve it. I just hope they look deeply into the ratings, TV competition and viewer thoughts.. etc. BB is perhaps the best way to achieve a cross-promotion platform.. and success across the company's other channels and print companies, like with the tabloid newspapers and magazines that the previous owner of C5 also had in his portfolio! I imagine Winter CBB's high of 3.0 million viewers in officials was helped with a lot of advertisement in the press!

I'd like to think that Viacom are aware of all of this.. I'm sure we'll see within the next few months! Also, does anybody know if Channel 5 is getting a rebrand??, Desmond rebranded the channel from 'Five' to 'Channel 5' and I was wondering whether we'd see a name change or logo change etc?? I for one find the design stale and uninviting, perhpas a pop of 3D or more fun would influence viewers, but hey, I don't know what they've got up their sleeves, this is all opinion based!

[Kai Anders]

Following up from my previous post, found an article online about what somebody else thinks! I love the bit where they discuss Channel 5 as a channel solely based on 'Films, Football and Fu**ing!'

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/06/channel-5-ad-blackout-omnicom

[Kai Anders]

If anyones interested, Channel 5's shares since beginning are as follows.

1997 - 2.3% +
1998 - 4.3% +
1999 - 5.4% +
2000 - 5.7% +
2001 - 5.8% +
2002 - 6.3% +
2003 - 6.5% +
2004 - 6.4% -
2005 - 6.4% o
2006 - 4.9% -
2007 - 5.3% +
2008 - 4.6% -
2009 - 4.8% +
2010 - 4.5% -

DESMOND TAKE OVER

2011 - 4.4% -
2012 - 4.5% +
2013 - 4.1% -
2014 - 4.0% - (currently.. remember we still have CBB to allow for improvements!)

It's fair to say that as a whole Channel 5 is unstable. It's ratings rose for 7 years before falling and since that time it's never really improved significantly. The reason Desmond bought the channel to begin with was to improve its share. Big Brother is always sited as the main aid. Channel 5, although the share was fair at around 4.5% average for several of it's years before new ownership, it was operating at a loss of £30,000,000 a year. Compare that to Desmond's takeover, their was a profit gain of £70,000,000, despite similar annual ratings! So in my eyes, the Channel really could benefit from Viacom's money, even if ratings don't improve it's highly likely that profit wise, and with it's other channels, things will improve greatly!

Let's just hope Viacom Channel 5 are a little less dependent on Big Brother as Desmond Channel 5 is... we do not need a repeat of C4 with a clutter of tens of different BB shows and then the dramatic cut off which lead to even more money being spent to fill the empty schedule!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Following up from my previous post, found an article online about what somebody else thinks! I love the bit where they discuss Channel 5 as a channel solely based on 'Films, Football and Fu**ing!'

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/06/channel-5-ad-blackout-omnicom

Oh my god!! I so called this the other day when I posted for people to look at the lower quality of adverts being shown on Channel 5.

I just noticed the ads lately have been far more budget and not aimed at the demographic at all.

Where it used to be full of Ministry Of Sounds, films and big brand companies I noticed instead its more ads for cheese and aldi.

[Kai Anders]

Oh my god!! I so called this the other day when I posted for people to look at the lower quality of adverts being shown on Channel 5.

I just noticed the ads lately have been far more budget and not aimed at the demographic at all.

Oh sorry I didn't notice

Where it used to be full of Ministry Of Sounds, films and big brand companies I noticed instead its more ads for cheese and aldi.

Don't forget sex toys! I guess sex sells on Channel 5!

[Kai Anders]

Here;s another perspective.. it's not essentially C5 based but it gives an idea into what MTV does and what they want.. perhaps Channel 5 could follow suit.. the thought of social media does wonders for BB, so the article justifies marketing in this way very well! just look at launch night tweets! Nearly 80,000 tweets! By far the most of the week!

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/22/viacom-kerry-taylor-geordie-shore-channel-5-mtv

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Don't forget sex toys! I guess sex sells on Channel 5!

Oh yeah lovehoney.co.uk plus there was also an advert for some new casino site where 2 girls are shouting "ooh that's a big one" in orgasmic voices.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Here;s another perspective.. it's not essentially C5 based but it gives an idea into what MTV does and what they want.. perhaps Channel 5 could follow suit.. the thought of social media does wonders for BB, so the article justifies marketing in this way very well! just look at launch night tweets! Nearly 80,000 tweets! By far the most of the week!

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/22/viacom-kerry-taylor-geordie-shore-channel-5-mtv

But the thing is Channel 5 really do need money from advertisers imo.

Big Brother is such an expensive show and with them basically being black listed surely they are going to have to drop their ad space price and pretty much sell to the nearest bidder.

[Kai Anders]

But the thing is Channel 5 really do need money from advertisers imo.

Big Brother is such an expensive show and with them basically being blacked surely they are going to have to drop their ad space price and pretty much sell to the nearest bidder.

I hadn't seen that casino advert.. I think I don't want to either! :joker:

Yeh, it's super expensive.. but it does make me think about the ITV2 idea.. like if a channel that small and insignificant compared to the big ones had even a thought about aquiriung it once.. surely it's got some form of profitability?

Maybe the whole lack of advertisement can be seen through all the product placement this series. They have those Microsofts Surface tablets, L'Oreal, Ribena, Dawn Of The Apes, SuperCasino, even that Disco person, who I'm to young to even know who that is! and several more, which since beginning to type I've forgotten!

[Jamesy]

Sadly with the adverts downgrading it's a loss to brands as well as C5. Big Brother is the ideal target for a lot of brands, and this decision for them to be removed from C5 until 2015 will result in a lot of angry brands out there. Unfortunately for them they have no choice in the matter having an agency 'decide' where is best for them.

C5 have been clever with supporting Big Brother with product placement being heavily focused on in BB15 and BB14, which I think is a good way to go to secure the shows future, most product placement you hardly notice and it's edited in very nicely half the time.

C5 will be lowering prices for advertising space I think, believe I read that somewhere.

[JohnnyBB]

Marcus claims over on his twitter account that the show has been contracted for another year?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

OMG even Cassandra has left the advert lol

[Jamesy]

She was appalled with the viewing figures and quit. :laugh:

[Kai Anders]

Marcus claims over on his twitter account that the show has been contracted for another year?

I saw this like before this series started but I'm sure it's just a mis-thought unless he posted it again recently. It's all over the place with the Viacom switch over, which happens this week!

[Jamesy]

Last year Marcus confirmed that he had agreed a two year deal for him to narrate on Big Brother (bringing him to 2015), so maybe he's going by that? Maybe C5 had solid plans in place to renew BB but the sale of C5 blocked that off from happening soon? Who knows.

[*mazedsalv**]

According to Botherbar (which doesn't update all the time but is very accurate), it got 1.42m! Highest since the first Sunday! Also the share was a very impressive 8.9%.

BOTS increased to 501k (5.7%).

[JohnnyBB]

According to Botherbar (which doesn't update all the time but is very accurate), it got 1.42m! Highest since the first Sunday! Also the share was a very impressive 8.9%.

BOTS increased to 501k (5.7%).

Thats great news it was trending last night! Hopefully armageddon week will steer it into the 1.8m maybe 2.0m mark HOPEFUllY!

[jackc1806]

Nice rating. 1.5m + for next week is the target

[Jake.]

1.42 is a brilliant figure for 10PM, and that share just can't be argued with

[Iceman]

According to Botherbar (which doesn't update all the time but is very accurate), it got 1.42m! Highest since the first Sunday! Also the share was a very impressive 8.9%.

BOTS increased to 501k (5.7%).
Wow nearly a 10% share....hopefully armageddon delivers some viewers

[Samm]

Brilliant, How much did BB10s ratings go up when they added new housemates

[Will.]

Fantastic rating and great share, high hopes for the eviction the tonight!!

[Brother Leon]

That was a very sudden jump. Nice.

[Will.]

Does that include +1

[Kai Anders]

WOW! Excellent ratings!! A 9% share is fantastic for the channel and totally deserved! It's quite funny.. we've all been complaining the show needs more fun and less fire.. last night's episode was perhaps one of the most positive of the series and the ratings delivered! Although it's unlikely to be the reason for high ratings.. lets hope the producers understand we like fun more than arguments! I wonder what caused such a massive increase? Hopefully Sunday's final of the World Cup won't hamper Armageddon ratings!

[Jarrod]

I recon the ratings will steadily climb as we head into Armageddon.

[Kai Anders]

Is that an entirely accurate rating?? As it does include +1 but the share is 9.4% altogether.

DS has this to say about C5 for the night.. seems fairly good, all prime-time shows above the average 4.0%!

'On Channel 5, Black Market Britain brought in 833k (4.3%). New show OAPs Behaving Badly was seen by 1.69m (8.5%) at 9pm (226k/1.4%), while Big Brother continued with 1.28m (8.1%) at 10pm (122k/1.3%).'

Despite a high rating it was beaten by BBC One and BBC Two.. and I imagine ITV.. however I'm not sure on the last one as 10pm ratings don't seem to have been released.. nonetheless.. excellent ratings for C5 and I imagine bosses would be very happy at the target audience percentage (18-35 year olds).. What young person is more likely to watch Question Time over BB!?

:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[Kai Anders]

I recon the ratings will steadily climb as we head into Armageddon.

I hope so.. as much as I find this series a little boring.. it is deserved of it.. Fans always ask for twists that the show hasn't done. And this is something that hasn't been done before.. well for C5 anyway! Hopefully it'll stand up against the World Cup Finale well! I'm sure BBC Two and C4 will have terrible ratings that night!

[Kai Anders]

does anyone know if BOTS ratings improve or decrease as the host's change throughout the week.. I for one prefer Emma's presenting.. just curious!

[Loukas]

:hello:
i'm happy with that! Keep rising ratings!!!!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I hope so.. as much as I find this series a little boring.. it is deserved of it.. Fans always ask for twists that the show hasn't done. And this is something that hasn't been done before.. well for C5 anyway! Hopefully it'll stand up against the World Cup Finale well! I'm sure BBC Two and C4 will have terrible ratings that night!

I thought the World cup finishes Friday and Armageddon starts Monday?

[Iceman]

I thought the World cup finishes Friday and Armageddon starts Monday?
Theres the runner up match tomorrow and the final on sunday

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Theres the runner up match tomorrow and the final on sunday

Praise the lord!!

[Iceman]

Praise the lord!!
Haha we'll see if we get a big jump.

[mrmattybeck1]

Any ratings

[Jake.]

Still waiting

[Samm]

#bbuk & Keep Ashleigh were both trending on twitter last night

[Kai Anders]

Hmm.. Late release today.. I predict a slightly higher than normal Friday night rating after the previous days high! But who knows,

[mrmattybeck1]

Maybe barb are having a recount as its so high Lol

[Rob!]

I don't - from what I've seen last night was one of those nights where all the channels are down. :(
I would imagine the +1 rating was good though as news of the sex went around.

[Kai Anders]

So far.. In overnight data the series is currently at an average of 1.21 million. With a share of 6.3%! (Channel 5s current 2014 share is at 4.0%!) So if we want ratings to continue to improve, we need to hit above this target! Hopefully Armageddon will give it a mid-season push like the Daley Hazel situation last year!

[Rob!]

So far.. In overnight data the series is currently at an average of 1.21 million. With a share of 6.3%! (Channel 5s current 2014 share is at 4.0%!) So if we want ratings to continue to improve, we need to hit above this target! Hopefully Armageddon will give it a mid-season push like the Daley Hazel situation last year!

Well with Steven anything's possible.

[Kai Anders]

FRIDAY NIGHTS RATING IS IN! 1.16m.. Fair but could be much better!

[LukeB]

big brother beat Million pound drop..

[Kai Anders]

Note, that's excluding +1 and nobody has reported on the share yet, sure we'll get both figures very soon!

[Kai Anders]

big brother beat Million pound drop..

:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[Jake.]

Another user on DS reckons 1.3

[Kai Anders]

Another user on DS reckons 1.3

Maybe it includes +1 with that figure.

[mrmattybeck1]

Try and spin that rating c5 not good at all

[daniel-lewis-1985]

FRIDAY NIGHTS RATING IS IN! 1.16m.. Fair but could be much better!

That's not "fair" that's awful.

[Jake.]

Being up on last weeks is the only positive really

[mrmattybeck1]

That's not "fair" that's awful.
A disaster of a rating crushed

[Kai Anders]

I called it fair in relation to the fact it is well up on the previous evictions. The fact that is managed a figure of 1.3 million is commendable considering the negativity it's getting, which doesn't help with you lot!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It came last in its slot.

[Jamesy]

It still got a 6.2% share last night so that is "fair".

[Kai Anders]

Still up on the hundreds of other channels! **positivity**

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I called it fair in relation to the fact it is well up on the previous evictions. The fact that is managed a figure of 1.3 million is commendable considering the negativity it's getting, which doesn't help with you lot!

What negativity is effecting ratings?

Who are these negative people you keep talking about who have the power to effect ratings because the press aren't reporting them and im sure our opinions aren't to blame either.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Still up on the hundreds of other channels! **positivity**

The multi channels?

FFS.

[Kai Anders]

It still got a 6.2% share last night so that is "fair".

that is fair! Like I always say.. if BB performs over C5s average share it's good. It's not always about beating competition, the fact that it sometimes does is just a plus! As long as it makes money.. which of course it makes some, it's good. Last night's was 2.2% over.. okay so it's not doubled.. but it's still fair!

If the ratings were so 'unfair' I'm sure C5 or producers would go to other lengths before cutting it completely like getting rid of several workers.. they've saved several thousands of pounds annually just like that.. perhaps the show is on even later at 11pm.. the guy in charge, Ben Frow did say, they won't just end the show and have nothing to follow up.. and with the Viacom switch I doubt they'd do it now.. or Channel 5 would well and truly be destroyed for good. He said there are still a few good years in it..

It's also worth noting that although this BB is well down on what it could achieve.. CBB was well up on what everything expected.. its much more likely they'd look at an annual figure of profit, rather than seasonal.. and i estimate this year, thanks to CBB is probably one of the best profitable years for the show since moving.. let's face it BB15 is on par with BB12 and BB13, but CBB is several 100K up on the other celebrity versions!

[Kai Anders]

The multi channels?

FFS.

Well when you consider that the most watched multi-channel show got 1.53 million last week, just before BB aired you'd certainly think differently if it was on at the same time.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Well when you consider that the most watched multi-channel show got 1.53 million last week, just before BB aired you'd certainly think differently if it was on at the same time.

To be fair e4 and itv2 yeah but not hundreds of multi channels cmon lol.

E4 get good ratings but defeating any of the other hundreds isn't an achievement especially when last nights highest rated multi channel only got 440k or something on BBC4.

[Samm]

Strange how it gets a good week but not as good eviction rating, the share is good just waiting for the +1

[Kai Anders]

Strange how it gets a good week but not as good eviction rating, the share is good just waiting for the +1

1.3 is the +1.
It got 1.16 without.

[*mazedsalv**]

WTF happened? What was the +1 rating? Where has the 1.3m figure come from? Thursday got 1.42m and eviction at 1.16m excluding +1? Something weird there.

it makes no sense, people wouldn't have randomly switched off after Thursday and miss a hyped eviction.

[*mazedsalv**]

Apparently, 90k on +1 so 1.25m incl +1. 2nd highest eviction, but despite that, such a shame because this week did well!

[Jamesy]

BOTS ratings will be appalling tonight. It's on at midnight till 1am, ridiculous!

[*mazedsalv**]

Only 872k excl +1, will be at around 950k with +1.

Everything was down massively last night because of the third place match, BB came 3rd in it's slot.

ITV- 7.3m
BBC1- 1.54m
CH5- 872k
BBC2- 868K
CH4- 818k

[Jake.]

Eh, not bad..

[*mazedsalv**]

Eh, not bad..

I guess when you see BBC1 performance, it's not bad. I think that's one of the lowest Saturday BBC1 9pm ratings ever.

Tonight will make CH4, CH5 and BBC2 look even worse.

[Will.]

Average for Saturday, nothing to worry about. It just confirms that BB has about 880K solid fans who watch the show every night. It will probably get 1.0 including +1. Saturdays have been like that since BB 15 started, not a shocker or crisis.

[Rob!]

Hey 3rd in it's slot, we can't complain about that.

[Will.]

Hey 3rd in it's slot, we can't complain about that.

That's good, yeah you can't really complain.

[Samm]

The rating is bad but it was against the football and it was on a Saturday so that explains it, I'm glad it came 3rd in slot

[Jamesy]

3rd in its slot is good. Plus with TV as a whole being low last night Big Brother got through it pretty well.

I'm awaiting BOTS rating, I'd be surprised if it got anything noteworthy at all last night, being on at midnight and all.

[Cal.]

I'm just happy it beat Million Pound Drop the other night, grass ain't always greener Davina...

[Rob!]

Bots will be lucky to get 300k. Why did they move it so late??

[Cal.]

Bots will be lucky to get 300k. Why did they move it so late??

It's ridiculous, taking it out of its 11 pm slot for a repeat of some ****e.

Clearly they no longer prioritize Big Brother.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Average for Saturday, nothing to worry about. It just confirms that BB has about 880K solid fans who watch the show every night. It will probably get 1.0 including +1. Saturdays have been like that since BB 15 started, not a shocker or crisis.

It wont get 1 million including +1 this is defo staying under 1 million in the overnights.

[erinp5]

Big Brother Xtra @BigBrotherXtra · 32m

Last night's Big Brother got 872k viewers.

[Kai Anders]

Big Brother Xtra @BigBrotherXtra · 32m

Last night's Big Brother got 872k viewers.

please don't quote that terrible twitter page!

[Kai Anders]

I'm happy for the ratings.. pretty on par with the rest of the Saturday's this series, and I'm glad it's third in it's slot.. I was more shocked at BBC One's rating! On average 50-60% of shares is based on the main 5 channels which usually equates to 15-20 million people depending on different circumstances of course.. what could everybody be doing for ratings across the spectrum to be so low!

Glad it beat BBC 2 and C4, shows it's still got a loyal fanbase, and even those who watched the match instead, will most likely catch up in another way! I was worried that Night and Day would obliterate BB as C4 movie nights tend to do very well!

And seriously.. what was up with BOTS.. I had waited 2 hours for it to be on.. I expected to wait just one.. but of course, being the big super Big Brother fan I am, I;m hardly going to miss it!

What were the shares??

[Jamesy]

Big Brother got a 4.2% share.

[Brother Leon]

But Ashleigh stayed...surely the Ratings were meant to rocket up? :o

:laugh:

[Rob!]

But Ashleigh stayed...surely the Ratings were meant to rocket up? :o

:laugh:

:hehe:

Any word on BOTS?

[*mazedsalv**]

With +1, BB got 948k.

[Rob!]

With +1, BB got 948k.

Not massively behind BBC1 then :)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I see Channel 4 pulled out the Titanic card.

That film allways kills in the ratings lol.

[*mazedsalv**]

I see Channel 4 pulled out the Titanic card.

That film allways kills in the ratings lol.

Very good move. The match though will damage everything, I predict an average of 15m, peak of 18m. However CH4 thought through well, I reckon for non footie watchers, people would go towards Titanic rather than BB surely.

Twitter wise though in Top 10...
8 out of 10 World Cup trends
#Titanic
#MarkandChristopher

At least BB made it in the Top 10!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ooh im only now watching and they're playing titanic as Danielle goes under lol.

[billy123]

Apologies if its already been posted but this is pretty interesting it is a Blog by Mercian Media/Alex Scott who is a Director on Big Brother there are some pretty interesting Articles including one on this years viewing figures with a comparison graph of junes figures (you can see the dips when England played in the WC).

http://blog.mercianmedia.co.uk/2014/07/12/big-brother-viewing-figures/
Alex Scotts twitter: @MercianMedia

http://mercianmedia.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/june-comparison.jpg

[Ross.]

Rating for BB will be awful tonight, hopefully it begins to pick up a bit more now that the World Cup is over.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Apologies if its already been posted but this is pretty interesting it is a Blog by Mercian Media/Alex Scott who is a Director on Big Brother there are some pretty interesting Articles including one on this years viewing figures with a comparison graph of junes figures (you can see the dips when England played in the WC).

http://blog.mercianmedia.co.uk/2014/07/12/big-brother-viewing-figures/
Alex Scotts twitter: @MercianMedia

http://mercianmedia.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/june-comparison.jpg

Put it away that looks horrible.

[billy123]

http://www.connectedsign.com/digi-know-digital-sign-blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/3pbuih-300x168.jpg

TV Ratings UK - JUST IN: #WorldCupFinal peak UK audience - 20.64m.
BBC: 16.72m (61.4% share) at 10.30pm
ITV: 3.96m (13.8%) at 9.45pm

This isnt going to be pretty if it scrapes a million with +1 it will be an achivement

[@bbuk_fans]

http://www.connectedsign.com/digi-know-digital-sign-blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/3pbuih-300x168.jpg

TV Ratings UK - JUST IN: #WorldCupFinal peak UK audience - 20.64m.
BBC: 16.72m (61.4% share) at 10.30pm
ITV: 3.96m (13.8%) at 9.45pm

This isnt going to be pretty if it scrapes a million with +1 it will be an achivement



Yeah its going to be bad, but those figures are the peaks. Average was 12.09 (50.3%) for BBC and 2.86 (12.1%) for ITV

[billy123]

Yeah its going to be bad, but those figures are the peaks. Average was 12.09 (50.3%) for BBC and 2.86 (12.1%) for ITVAnd thats with an hours build up before the match even began nobody watches an hour of build up the figures from 8pm-10:30pm will be much higher than the average.

[mrmattybeck1]

800k for bbuk last night not bad without plus one

[@bbuk_fans]

Channel 5's Big Brother continued with 800k (2.8%) at 9pm (128k/0.5%). - Digital Spy

[Kai Anders]

Firstly.. why was ITVs ratings so poor when twitter went crazy telling everyone to boycott the BBCs coverage?? It's actually a poor rating for ITV!

and as for BB I'm kind of happy it got a figure as substantial as that! I was expecting 400K, not 800K! The share okay, is terrible for BB and even C5 standards, but that's of course likely after going against such strong competition! Interested to see what BBC Two and C4 got, especially as their programming was targeted towards different audiences than BBC, ITV and C5!

[*mazedsalv**]

9pm:

World Cup- 12.09m (BBC1) *peak of 16m
World Cup- 2.82m (ITV)
Titanic- 971k (C4)
Big Brother- 920k (C5)
The Night Watch- 853k (BBC2)

All include +1. Not as bad as I thought to be fair for everyone else.

Overall peak including ITV and BBC1 combined for the match was almost 21m.

Hoping tonight can get 1.4m+ for Armageddon. It got that rating for Monday and Thursday last week so here's hoping!

[Iceman]

Thats decent

[Jamesy]

Decent rating.

Tonight will be the interesting one!

[Kai Anders]

despite ratings not being as people would like this series.. Channel 5 is currently very close to overtaking Channel 4 in shares..

Channel 4 share is at 4.4%
Channel 5 share is at 4.25%

I hope with Armageddon on the way tonight, that meagre 0.15% can once again beat Channel 4.. it'd be the second time since the beginning of Channel 5.. the first time was last year due to Secrets and Lies and the Daley/Hazel situation so here's hoping the strayed fanbase come back tonight and for the rest of the week!

If anyone's interested..

BBC Two is at 6.4%
ITV is at 14.2%
BBC One is at 21.2%

[Rob!]

Ooh after the banter we were having on here last night about Titanic, it only JUST beat BB.
800k isn't bad at all against the World Cup final, and the plus one figure is even more respectable. Thank God that's over though.
So, tonight. I don't fancy it's chances against Utopia.

[*mazedsalv**]

Ooh after the banter we were having on here last night about Titanic, it only JUST beat BB.
800k isn't bad at all against the World Cup final, and the plus one figure is even more respectable. Thank God that's over though.
So, tonight. I don't fancy it's chances against Utopia.

Utopia did quite poorly last year did it not? It went from 1.4m to 1.1m (I am sure that was officially too).

Utopia started with 'a little over 1m' last year according to Broadcast.

[billy123]

Is that the first time in the shows history it has gone below 1 million with plus 1?

[*mazedsalv**]

Is that the first time in the shows history it has gone below 1 million with plus 1?

You mean for a non Saturday show? Because around 80% of Saturdays have been under 1m since the start on CH5.

If you mean a non sat, it's still a no way. When it faced Euro 2012 it went sub 1m, it got 650k for Caroline's eviction and 450k for the last HL of BB13.

In fact, I think it held extremely well last night.

[billy123]

You mean for a non Saturday show? Because around 80% of Saturdays have been under 1m since the start on CH5.

If you mean a non sat, it's still a no way. When it faced Euro 2012 it went sub 1m, it got 650k for Caroline's eviction and 450k for the last HL of BB13.

In fact, I think it held extremely well last night.I thought it had always held above a million i had no idea it had gone as low as 450k

[MB.]

I thought it had always held above a million i had no idea it had gone as low as 450k

Though that was up against the Olympics closing ceremony, so it's impressive that that was nearly doubled for the World Cup final...

[Rob!]

Utopia did quite poorly last year did it not? It went from 1.4m to 1.1m (I am sure that was officially too).

Utopia started with 'a little over 1m' last year according to Broadcast.


We'll see I guess. I didn't realise the ratings for It had gone down throughout the series. If it did beat it, that would be ace.

[Rob!]

Wow - Just seen that 34.65m watched the world cup final in Germany - can you imagine BB going up against that? :joker:

[*mazedsalv**]

Wow - Just seen that 34.65m watched the world cup final in Germany - can you imagine BB going up against that? :joker:

I know :p I heard it was something like 88% share :shocked:

To be fair, if England ever played in a WC final, I would expect around 28m and a share of around 85%.

[Rob!]

I know :p I heard it was something like 88% share :shocked:

To be fair, if England ever played in a WC final, I would expect around 28m and a share of around 85%.

It's a good job we're crap at sport :laugh:

[Jake.]

That's rather good

[Rob!]

That's rather good

Titanic didn't beat the World Cup! D:

[Jake.]

Titanic didn't beat the World Cup! D:

The ratings are clearly mixed up

[Rob!]

The ratings are clearly mixed up

I would go as far as to say made up.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Titanic didn't beat the World Cup! D:

You're joking right? lol

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Anyone got the officials yet?

Just looking on wiki and their officials for week most don't even include +1 its so annoying.

[Rob!]

You're joking right? lol

You clearly missed the pissing around that Jake was doing last night :joker:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You clearly missed the pissing around that Jake was doing last night :joker:

Yup totally missed it lol.

[Samm]

Though it would get like 600K

[Brother Leon]

Surprised ITV was that much lower. Their coverage truly is terrible.

[jackc1806]

Jake :laugh:

With regard to Channel 4's share- it is awful how much that channel has fell in the past few years. It used to be the best channel, now I watch like 2 programmes on it.

[Kai Anders]

The officials from July 6 are as follows..

1st - Benefits Britain - 2.43m (same as first BB launch night!)
2nd - CSI - 1.91m
3rd - The Dog Rescuers - 1.58m
4th - Big Brother WED - 1.58m
5th - Big Brother FRI - 1.51m
6th - Big Brother MON - 1.36m
7th - Big Brother TUE - 1.33m
8th - Big Brother SUN - 1.31m
9th - The Hotel Inspector Returns - 1.23m
10th - Big Brother THUR - 1.19m
11th - Big Brother SAT - 1.18m

I guess ratings aren't where we'd like but lets take into account a few factors, for my daily 'ratings positivity' the thing this thread needs so much more of!

- Still in the top 10 (exc. Saturday's show)

- Beaten from the top 3 spots due to new and audience favourite shows (new shows released the same time as BB often have nowhere near as much luck at these higher ratings!)

- Everything bar the odd show is down on Channel 5 in terms of ratings.


- Channel 4's most watched show of the week was seen by 2.03m, 30th place took 0.63 million

- Channel 5's most watched show of the week was seen by 2.43m (1.58m for BB), 30th place took 0.66m.

^ Therefore Channel 5 is still competitive and for the week had overall higher ratings for the week.. despite C4 having shows beating C5 several times.


For those cynics out there who believe this series will be the 'end' and see the show being scrapped.. do you honestly think Channel 5 would scrap BB, which this week holds spots 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th and 11th, which equates to 6 more other programme episodes that would hit the same ratings as BB if it wasn't there.. I think not!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Those officials are abysmal *cue backlash of positive comments.

Officials mostly under 1.5 and a weekly average of 1.41? :o

What happened most episodes are like 200k/300k down on the week before.

[Iceman]

Those officials are abysmal *cue backlash of positive comments.

Officials mostly under 1.5 and a weekly average of 1.41? :o

What happened they are like 200k/300k down on the week before.
Stop being a tampon :P

[ruiphillips]

This series is the pits.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Week 5 official average

BB12: 1.57
BB13: 1.54
BB14: 1.75
BB15: 1.41

Its going to have to slay in the ratings from now on or its going to be the lowest rated series of BB.

Also why have we still heard nothing from Viacom if they have already taken over now, maybe no news is good news.

[@bbuk_fans]

Week 5 official average

Also why have we still heard nothing from Viacom if they have already taken over now, maybe no news is good news.

I'm not very knowledgeable about how the process works and I think this has been bought up before but Reuters are saying EU/ European Commission "first stage review" deadline is tomorrow (15th) http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/14/eu-mergers-takeovers-idUKL6N0PP3TX20140714

[*mazedsalv**]

I didn't post the official ratings because 4 of them don't include +1. Only three do. So that W5 official will be a tiny bit better (around 1.48m I would predict) but I expected the drop. That week was the lowest in terms of ratings, next weeks will be much better as that's when we got the 1.40m and 1.42m which look to reach ~1.8m.

But yeah, that was a poor week, so lets hope this can smash it! The recovery starts now!

Official series as of now is at 1.54m. So yes, it is the lowest rated, it needs to hit 1.60m+ to stop it from being the lowest. To be fair the officials released next week should help it as I predict around 1.6m officially for that week.

[*mazedsalv**]

An awesome poster on DS sent these to me via inbox because he knows I always ask :p
But yeah, here are the officials INCLUDING +1.

30/06 - 1.46m (6.8%)
01/07 - 1.44m (7.0%)
02/07 - 1.59m (8.5%)
03/07 - 1.45m (6.1%)
04/07 - 1.46m (6.4%)
05/07 - 1.32m (6.2%)
06/07 - 1.50m (6.4%)

Week average- 1.46m

[Kai Anders]

Some good shares there!

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother Armageddon 1.61m (9.9%)
Fantastic as it was the highest since launch. Brilliant share too. If anyone has the breakdown, wondering if it stayed equal or dropped throughout

Also incredible for BOTS pretty much, especially share wise.

Big Brother’s Bit on the Side 0.74m (8.5%)

556k for Utopia. Ouch.

[MattHooper]

Great shares for both

[Raph]

I was waiting for those to come out! I'm glad as it was the best episode of the series so far, in my opinion. Haven't seen the forum this hyped up since an average BB14 episode

[mrmattybeck1]

Big Brother Armageddon 1.61m (9.9%)

Fantastic as it was the highest since launch. Brilliant share too. If anyone has the breakdown, wondering if it stayed equal or dropped throughout

Also incredible for BOTS pretty much, especially share wise.

Big Brother’s Bit on the Side 0.74m (8.5%)
Good rating but will be surprised if it stays stable no live feed last night ruined it for me

[Yaki da]

I won't be watching tonight. Or again anytime soon.

[*mazedsalv**]

I do think it will drop, but the BOTS share and rating proved that even though online people were annoyed, they did stick around. So even if it drops to the 1.4m-1.5m region, it would be a great success.

[Rob!]

Utopia :joker:


That is AWESOME!!!!!!!! :dance:
Delighted for it. I hope it stays consistent. I thought it was brilliant last night. Is that with +1?

[Will.]

Cant complain at all, brilliant rating, and the share is great. over 1.5 M is excelent.

[*mazedsalv**]

Utopia :joker:


That is AWESOME!!!!!!!! :dance:
Delighted for it. I hope it stays consistent. I thought it was brilliant last night. Is that with +1?

Yep it is. However now I am hearing it was 1.55m excl +1 as they said on DS so with the 90k on +1 that would make it 1.64m instead of 1.61m?? Not sure yet.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Brilliant rating and well deserved. I know that guy who entered worked on a few things as an extra with him, im a bit jealous hes there not gonna lie lol.

Ive only just watched the episode as last night my toilet had an Armageddon, pipes burst and filled floors below with **** then someone who I don't like from another flat had to sleep on my sofa! Its like The Ring its coming into my home through the tv.

Brilliant rating and brilliant share and quite possibly our first 2 million come officials time.

On another note though I don't think you can add shares onto it using +1 that's cheating lol so the real share was 9.3%

[Samm]

That's Brilliant over 1.5 nearly as high as the 2nd launch hope the good ratings continue this week

I can't believe the first episode of Utopia got destroyed, I don't watch it but I saw loads of promo for it

[Vanessa]

Big Brother Armageddon 1.61m (9.9%)
Fantastic as it was the highest since launch. Brilliant share too. If anyone has the breakdown, wondering if it stayed equal or dropped throughout

Also incredible for BOTS pretty much, especially share wise.

Big Brother’s Bit on the Side 0.74m (8.5%)

556k for Utopia. Ouch.

:amazed::cheer2:

[Loukas]

:amazed:
I hope the audience stay!!

[Rob!]

Where did it come in it's slot?

[Jake.]

Wow! That is brilliant! The share is fantastic, done really well given the slot

[*mazedsalv**]

Apparently it came 2nd in its slot :shocked: just behind BBC1 news, according to Tellymix!! Bloody hell.

[Jake.]

In fact, the show was the second most watched of all in the 10PM slot, beaten only by the News at Ten on BBC One.

And Big Brother was Channel 5′s most watched show of the day with Benefits Britain: Life On The Dole dropping a million viewers week-on-week to 1.56 million.

[Kai Anders]

That is AMAZING!

Great ratings, great shares too! BB's normal share tends to stand at 8%.. particularly last year's series, while CBB often hits 10%.. the fact that it got 9.9% is very good.

I'm so happy it DESTROYED Utopia!

750K people heard my name read out on BOTS at the end of the show too! Good to know! :hehe:

[Rob!]

:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[Rob!]

So would that be Channel 4 coming last in it's slot? :hehe:

[LukeB]

great ratings tbf! now we will know if football really did affect big brother

[Jarrod]

That's such a brilliant bounce back rating :amazed:

[Iceman]

Thats a positive start. Hopefully it continues

[*mazedsalv**]

That is AMAZING!

Great ratings, great shares too! BB's normal share tends to stand at 8%.. particularly last year's series, while CBB often hits 10%.. the fact that it got 9.9% is very good.

I'm so happy it DESTROYED Utopia!

750K people heard my name read out on BOTS at the end of the show too! Good to know! :hehe:

I knew it was you! As soon as they said 'Kai', I immediately assumed if it was you. :hehe:

[*mazedsalv**]

As for it remaining like this, I doubt it. People seem to be extremely annoyed that Sasha didn't go in to mess with Kim and Steven and dislike the second non public vote. 1.3-1.4m tonight (which would still be 200k-300k higher than last week).

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Tonight will probably go back down to 1.2 imo last night was like an eviction and those dumbasses who don't watch the highlights on Saturdays because they think its just a repeat of the eviction may be under that impression for tonight.

Not very clever these BB viewers.

[*mazedsalv**]

Tonight will probably go back down to 1.2 imo last night was like an eviction and those dumbasses who don't watch the highlights on Saturdays because they think its just a repeat of the eviction may be under that impression for last night.

No very clever these BB viewers.

Probably the "Armageddon Day 2" will make them tune in still. I hope you're wrong because I don't want this to happen!

[Cal.]

Great rating, hope it continues!

Clearly people liked what they saw to stick around for BOTS, hopefully the good ratings continue...

[*mazedsalv**]

1.20m excl +1 for BB. Oh dear, that is poor. Probably close to 1.3m with it, but still.

So, I think people hated the twist then, as I expected.

[mrmattybeck1]

Dreadful rating no excuses for that

[*mazedsalv**]

Dreadful rating no excuses for that

Maybe the producers know that this second non public vote was a bad idea now.

[mrmattybeck1]

Maybe the producers know that this second non public vote was a bad idea now.
It is not letting us vote is a bad move

[*mazedsalv**]

It is not letting us vote is a bad move

Only thing is that the share looks high for a rating that low.

[Rob!]

Meh. Exactly what was expected. Some of that will have been the "wahhhh after eviction shows are just a repeat wahhh" but I'm not surprised. It beat Utopia though right?

[mrmattybeck1]

Only thing is that the share looks high for a rating that low.
Yeah still good for five but I'm sure they would have liked it a bit higher

[*mazedsalv**]

Utopia dropped to 417k excl +1.

[Rob!]

Utopia dropped to 417k excl +1.

:joker:

What was the share for BB?