Survivor: Kaôh Rōng Discussion Thread

[Mystic Mock]

^ it was all that dullard Aubry's doing

No she was too busy giving Neal those spots.:hehe:

[Mystic Mock]

Liz would have been med-evaced if she stayed anyway

And tbh I'd rather that (as long as it wasn't too serious) than falling victim to the same person putting a hit out every single episode without no adversary.

CBS seems to have two patterns with their modern programming.

1. Wince and repeat the exact same formula in each episode.

2. The big players never have a rival that's actually capable enough to take them on, like what you could get in China and Pearl Islands.

[Jack_]

Perched as per

[Jack_]

I thought that you normally like entertainers?:laugh:

Seriously does everyone just want a one sided show of dullards getting to the end?

I judge contestants on shows with and without public involvement differently. On BBUK for example the onus is on the audience to keep the show afloat, but in shows with a strategic format there's not the same responsibility so I tend to support people more on who I like as people or find enjoyable to watch rather than who is objectively contributing to the show :laugh:

I guess I can appreciate what Jason/Scot have brought to the season in terms of a storyline but they're still ****ing disgusting, so I'm definitely rooting against them (and in a weird kind of way I actually enjoy doing that on strategic shows? It's gripping if nothing else, see: BB15 US, BB4 Canada)

[Macie Lightfoot]

k Tai's going hobe

[Jack_]

drag him Joe <3333

[Macie Lightfoot]

why do people still insist Joe is boring he's so UTR fun

[Jack_]

I CAN'T at Joe omfg :laugh2:

[Jack_]

**** YES! I nearly got so pissed

[Jack_]

no Tai get rid of Jason

[Macie Lightfoot]

Michele's WINNING moment (for, like, the third episode now)

[Jack_]

YAAAAASSSSS goodbye and good riddance you ****ing ****

[Jack_]

I think that's ****ed Tai now :( why did you have to play the extra vote

[AarynGriesfan]

Joe finally got some air time it was shocking! When he kept misspelling immunity I laughed so hard. Tai did a horrible job at tribal council as usual. Glad Michele stayed and Jason went home great result!

[Calderyon]

I think that's ****ed Tai now :( why did you have to play the extra vote

He is not going next time, since he still has the immunity idol that he can use next time.

[Jack_]

He is not going next time, since he still has the immunity idol that he can use next time.

True, but he's not the first and wouldn't be the last person to walk out with an idol in their pocket

[Calderyon]

Surely he has to realise that he should use it regardless to ensure a trip to final 4. It´s the last time he can use it after all.

[Jack_]

Surely he has to realise that he should use it regardless to ensure a trip to final 4. It´s the last time he can use it after all.

Another fair point, fingers crossed :fc:

[Calderyon]

Jason left. Bye, bye.

Tai is in a bit of a pickle next time, but as long he is smart and uses his idol on himself, he is in the final 4.

Aubrey looking more and more like the winner.

[Macie Lightfoot]

uh lol Aubry's episode was NOT good at all for her winner chances, give it up hun

[AarynGriesfan]

Tai is obviously going to play his idol next week so he is safe which means bye bye Joe or Aubrey.

[Headie]

Michelle is getting the winners edit tbh

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Michelle has a edit?

[Calderyon]

If Michele is the winner, i think she would have one of the most invisible winner edit since Sophie. And that one was bad.

Still don´t know what she has done to deserve a win.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

If Michele is the winner, i think she would have one of the most invisible winner edit since Sophie. And that one was bad.

Still don´t know what she has done to deserve a win.

She ate a Burger :shrug:

[Jack_]

Michele winning would be an atrocious end to what has been an amazing season

[EspeonBB]

Yasss @ Jason finally ****ing off

I'm pretty sure Michele is winning which is a good ending in my book. Although I like everyone left so idc really

[Macie Lightfoot]

Michele's perfectly fine and she's been my winner pick since episode 1 so I'm confident she wins. Her edit hasn't even been terrible, just lower visibility like Sophie and Nataie White. She's not that exciting but I still like her and this is easily the best end game group since SJDS.

[VanessaFeltz.]

bye jason good riddance to you

also i wanted borelle out :x

[Apollo]

I had to remind myself, and chuckle at the fact that Joe was put on the brains tribe.

Immunity Joe, its spelt I-M-M-U-N-I-T-Y.

Good episode.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Michele winning would be an atrocious end to what has been an amazing season

Rachelle only deserves to win against Joe, anyone else is an embarrassment for the show.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

If Michele is the winner, i think she would have one of the most invisible winner edit since Sophie. And that one was bad.

Still don´t know what she has done to deserve a win.

She formed all alll girls alliance? surely that what will get her the win? :shrug:

[VanessaFeltz.]

She formed all alll girls alliance? surely that what will get her the win? :shrug:

no she didnt she jumped on the vagoon

[reece(:]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/7499d8c26d150a6a88de4fc368903f16/tumblr_o6q5ju0Rfd1s2201no1_540.jpg

[JerseyWins]

Tai needs to win but it's looking very unlikely. Aubry and Cydney are fine and deserving winners but eh. Michelle is probably my preference to win over those two but would be a more bland end to this season. Joe would be super meh and I just don't see him winning anyway.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Michele's win will be fun bc casuals (and apparently some people on here) will be livid because she didn't make any BIG MOVES and she didn't PLAY DA GAME :love: she's likable enough and will win because of her social game, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

[Apollo]

Michele's win will be fun bc casuals (and apparently some people on here) will be livid because she didn't make any BIG MOVES and she didn't PLAY DA GAME :love: she's likable enough and will win because of her social game, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

She's young and pretty, that's her social game.

She is likable though, in the sense that you are unlikely to make enemies when you don't participate in the game.

Joe has also been a passenger,He obviously has no chance winning, but it takes a certain look to pull off riding the wave with grace.

And making big moves does not necessarily mean playing the game,hiding behind more threatening targets is definitely a viable approach but usually having a solid social game means you have some idea of whats going on around you, and have influence even if it isn't expressed by choice. She has no influence,no back seat control, no plan,her fate is completely and totally controlled by the wishes of others.She's the pawn who won't have to worry about winning immunity, or having allies, or finding an idol, or finding out which way any vote is going,or convincing someone to vote a certain way, every aspect and element of her game has been determined by the actions and decisions of others.

But, she is young and pretty.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Michele's win will be fun bc casuals (and apparently some people on here) will be livid because she didn't make any BIG MOVES and she didn't PLAY DA GAME :love: she's likable enough and will win because of her social game, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

Thing is Casuals and some people on here dont even know who Michelle is. I mean Mark the chicken has more of a personality then she does and quite honestly would get more jury votes to win because the jury will forget who Michelle is.

[AarynGriesfan]

Thing is Casuals and some people on here dont even know who Michelle is. I mean Mark the chicken has more of a personality then she does and quite honestly would get more jury votes to win because the jury will forget who Michelle is.

She's gotten playing of air time the last couple weeks so if you don't know who Michele is at this point then it's your own fault for not paying close enough attention.

[Macie Lightfoot]

alol DTM just because you're trying to be funny and clever by calling her Rachelle doesn't mean that nobody knows who she is.

[VanessaFeltz.]

alol DTM just because you're trying to be funny and clever by calling her Rachelle doesn't mean that nobody knows who she is.

Still she is irrel.

[Calderyon]

I wouldn´t be livid, i would be puzzled and somewhat perplexed as to why she deserves it? :shrug:

[Macie Lightfoot]

if she gets the votes to win then her social game was good enough.

[Calderyon]

^ True, i guess.

Tbf, if she gets rid of Aubrey next, she could be a contender.

[Macie Lightfoot]

alolllllllll Joegod's IC performance is easily the best since Jaclyn's final IC win

[AarynGriesfan]

Well Aubrey is probably screwed now. No one in their right mind should want to go to the end with Aubrey. Michele path to winning just got a lot easier!

[reece(:]

p/BFSe74RSxcf

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Michelle once again saying she is going to make a move lol my god she sucks

[Calderyon]

Little pointless episode imo.

It´s pretty apparent what will happen, someone probably Cydney is going to win immunity and Tai is voted out.

I do wonder if they make it a final 2 this time since it´s still a 2 hour finale. Or are they counting reunion to it as well.

If it happens, the final 2 will be Cydney and Michelle.

[iRyan]

Flawless final 4 <3

I've been rooting for these four since pretty much the beginning so i'm honestly happy for any of them

I think Cydney most deserves to win tho

[Samm]

The final 4 is very good, however I wish Debbie was there :(

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Flawless final 4 <3

I've been rooting for these four since pretty much the beginning so i'm honestly happy for any of them

I think Cydney most deserves to win tho

Michelle flawless? :joker:

[AarynGriesfan]

Little pointless episode imo.

It´s pretty apparent what will happen, someone probably Cydney is going to win immunity and Tai is voted out.

I do wonder if they make it a final 2 this time since it´s still a 2 hour finale. Or are they counting reunion to it as well.

If it happens, the final 2 will be Cydney and Michelle.

Its a 2 hour finale then a 1 hour reunion so 3 hours total. A final 2 does seem likely.

[AarynGriesfan]

Michelle once again saying she is going to make a move lol my god she sucks

How could anyone make a move when there was no tribal council? Your hate for Michele is even more irrational then everyone's hate for Kelsey is.

[Natalie.]

Aw Joe :(
I'd like a Cydney, Aubry or Tai win

I haven't seen many seasons yet but this one has been my favourite so far

[Headie]

Aubry is becoming a tad annoying, still love ha tho

right now for me it's Cydney > Michele > Aubry > Tai

[Mokka]

The final 4 is very good, however I wish Debbie was there :(

Same..

I like this final four overall... but Michelle is my least favourite. I mean, I still have to look up her name because I barely know who she is

But at least all the tragic bullies are gone

[EspeonBB]

Poor Joe :( I always liked him despite no edit

This is an amazing final 4. In terms of who I'd like to win: Cydney > Aubry > Tai > Michele but I like all 4

[Calderyon]

For me the winning order is Tai -> Aubrey -> either of the other two.

[JerseyWins]

I mean the boot order evened out to a decent finish but I haven't cared much for hardly anyone for weeks now.

Tai > Michelle > Aubry = Cydney basically for me. Tai winning would be a great finish. The rest wouldn't really be good or bad, just kinda acceptable. :joker:

[Dominic]

Can't wait for Winchele2016 <3333

Michele=Cyd > Tai >> Aubs

[Macie Lightfoot]

Three more days until WINCHELE

[Calderyon]

More like DULLCHELE or BORECHELE, but if she wins, good for her i guess. If the jury goes and votes for her to win, there is nothing anybody can do to stop it.

She needs to get rid of Aubrey and/or Cydney though and take Tai to final 2, if she wants to have a chance of winning. That would be somewhat of a big move.

[MB.]

732987909905600512

Did Rosa Parks die just so that Darnell could be forced to the back of the bus I think not #BlackLivesMatter

[MB.]

(also Cydney has officially turned me)

[Calderyon]

(also Cydney has officially turned me)

...straight?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

This might be the jack Daniel talking bur if Michelle wins will vomit

[MB.]

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[MB.]

I imagine other Survivors are posting pictures and not just Caleb, but at least whoever took that one's learnt how to hold a phone properly

[Calderyon]

Well it´s started. The finale, i mean.

Hope Tai wins or at least gets to the end.

[Macie Lightfoot]

TIME FOR WINCHELE...x

[Calderyon]

Hmm... based on that, maybe it´s a final 3 after all?

[Macie Lightfoot]

WINCHELE.......x

[Calderyon]

Bleh for that Michele win.

Tai is gone, i guess. I can´t see Aubrey or Cydney going at this stage.

[Calderyon]

Yeah, Aubry is going to turn on Tai and vote him out.

EDIT: Oh, i guess it might be the other way then.

[Calderyon]

In the end neither one turned and it´s a Cydney vs Aubrey fire making faceoff. I predict a Cydney win.

[Calderyon]

The jury seems to dislike Cydney a lot.

[Jack_]

Neal lol <333

[Calderyon]

Glad to be wrong.

Yay for Aubrey, bye Cydney. Fine try though. :clap1:

[Calderyon]

Ooops... Wrong thread.

[Calderyon]

This is stolen straight from BBCAN.

[Macie Lightfoot]

alol this twist is so stupid

[Calderyon]

And somewhat unfair really. She´ll probably eliminate either Neal or Joseph from the jury.

[Macie Lightfoot]

WINCHELE HAS SPOKEN........x

[Macie Lightfoot]

thank **** we didn't get have to hear an obnoxious Neal jury speech tbh

[Calderyon]

Neal was and is a sourpuss *****, but i what he said was somewhat truthful.

But sadly Michelle will probably win this. For reasons (other than she somehow managing to get the votes) unknown.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Aubry obviously won?

[Calderyon]

^ Hope so, but this finale edit is very worrying.

[Calderyon]

Tbh, i´m just happy that Tai has made to the end.

[Calderyon]

Based on my count, Aubrey should win hands down. But stranger things have happened.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

This jury are pathetic if they dont reward Aubry the win

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Aubry has to have won this surely?

[Macie Lightfoot]

nnnnnnn Winchele

[Macie Lightfoot]

alol Jeff giving them final speeches just to give Aubry a final chance :joker:

[Calderyon]

I don´t know, the edit in episode has been strongly for Michele´s "favor".

[Calderyon]

Tai most likely got 0 votes.

[Macie Lightfoot]

WINCHELE.............x

[Calderyon]

OK, let´s see how this goes. Hopefully it´s Tai/Aubry.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Lol congrats Michelle, worst winner ever

[Calderyon]

Puzzling. Most meh winner ever.

Out of courtesy however: Congrats Michelle on your win.

[Jack_]

A great season with a drab winner, but oh well it's still amazing and no one will remember Michele when they think of this season in a few years so it's all good :clap1:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

A great season with a drab winner, but oh well it's still amazing and no one will remember Michele when they think of this season in a few years so it's all good :clap1:

Lol no one remembers her now :laugh:

[Calderyon]

Scot and Kyle both probably voted for Michele, i think.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Scot and Kyle both probably voted for Michele, i think.

No suprise, they are scared by independent women who have braincells like Aubry and like dumb arses like Michelle cause they can treat her like crap.

[Macie Lightfoot]

She's likable and sociable and had friends on the jury? I don't see why it's shocking that she won. It's akin to Lisa Donohue in BBUS3.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

She's likable and sociable and had friends on the jury? I don't see why it's shocking that she won. It's akin to Lisa Donohue in BBUS3.

Because Aubry played a better game. At least Lisa had a personalty and played a decent game. Michelle is.... well forgettable. Very undeserving winner, and one of the worst winners the show has had.

[Calderyon]

Cydney, Kyle, Scot, Julia and Nick all voted for Michele. Only Joseph (Joe) and Debbie voted for Aubry. Tai got no votes as predicted.

[EspeonBB]

I wanted Aubry to win but I'm fine with Michele winning. The jury twist is so BBUS-like and I'd rather it be left out of Survivor though, even if it didn't effect the results

This season was amazing though :love: I've legitimately enjoyed all of it which hasn't happened for ages

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Great season, ruined in the end :(

[EspeonBB]

I can see why Probst hates the season now though :joker: He was bitter over Michele winning

[Calderyon]

Goodish season, but a boring/blah winner.

[Jack_]

wtf is going on LMAO

[Calderyon]

:facepalm: :laugh:

[Jack_]

Sia doing the Survivor God's work rewarding the star of the season Tai <333333

[EspeonBB]

Why is Sia at the reunion nnn

[Jack_]

Sia overshadowing Michele's win lmaoooo

[Macie Lightfoot]

Because Aubry played a better game. At least Lisa had a personalty and played a decent game. Michelle is.... well forgettable. Very undeserving winner, and one of the worst winners the show has had.

just because you forget her doesn't mean she's forgettable and one of the worst winner ever lol. She got 5 jury votes, she played the best game.

[Jack_]

She's definitely forgettable, yes she deserved to win but she's still dull as hell and has made for a disappointing end to an amazing season

[EspeonBB]

Michele's social game was great and I think she deserved to win. People don't realise Survivor is a social game above all else and if you develop close relationships with people they will vote for you. :shrug:

[Jack_]

Caleb looking surprisingly hot for once

[Macie Lightfoot]

Caleb's hair is so bad

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Still undeserving in my view. Scot and Jason/Kyle are just bitter because Aubry had a braincell to get them out. Well done to Michelle, I guess doing nothing and following the crowd earns you 1 million, thankfully Nick will do the right thing and spend all the money she won.

[Macie Lightfoot]

And they have every right to be bitter lol complaining about bitter jurors is so 2009

[Jack_]

'Debbie - chemist'

LOOOOOL <333

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Millennials vs. Gen X" Survivor has jumped the shark yet again

[Calderyon]

Survivor Old vs Young basically.

Not sure what to think tbh.

[EspeonBB]

Could they really not come up with a better twist than Millennials vs. Gen X lmao

[Jack_]

dare I say this already looks like a good character driven cast

[Jack_]

Terrible title tho

[Macie Lightfoot]

Gen X wins Reward!!!!!!

[EspeonBB]

I'm hoping for another character driven season too

More Kaoh Rong and less Cambodia!

[Calderyon]

It´s another Success or Bust -season.

The title should just be Oldies vs Young ´uns and be done with it. It´s not good, but it´s surely better than Millennials vs. Gen-x, right?

[EspeonBB]

I still can't believe they went for that as the title. Like wtf couldn't they just name it after the location again

[Jack_]

This season has been so damn good, best since Cagayan :clap1: came close to beating it but didn't have as good an ending so

[EspeonBB]

Alecia and Cydney getting ignored :bored:

[Calderyon]

^ Blame Sia for that.

[Jack_]

Scot and Jason needed dragging for filth too

like they deserved it more than Dan and Will did sorry not sorry

[DrunkerThanMoses]

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1MnGnjbamQkGO

This guy lol

[Jack_]

I'll have a shot of whatever he's drinking

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I love his rant that Jeff loves penis and hates Vagina :laugh:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Omg saying Jeff hates this season because the final 3 was 2 vaginas and a gay guy lol

[Jack_]

must be a TiBBer

[DrunkerThanMoses]

If I was still drunk from earlier, this would be me right now lol

[Macie Lightfoot]

Scot and Jason needed dragging for filth too

like they deserved it more than Dan and Will did sorry not sorry

let's not get carried away hun.

Anyway, I'm dying at how the reunion has become such a parody of itself with Sia "unexpectedly" hijacking it and as a result half the cast getting ignored :joker: this show has jumped every damn shark out there

[BBfanUSA]

Heh, I recognized Mari from that Gen X vs Millennials trailer.

She's a Let's Player for Smosh Games.

[Jack_]

let's not get carried away hun.

Anyway, I'm dying at how the reunion has become such a parody of itself with Sia "unexpectedly" hijacking it and as a result half the cast getting ignored :joker: this show has jumped every damn shark out there

But it's the truth, Will had like one blowup at Shirin and I never even thought Dan did anything wrong anyway (Rodney was way worse and got away with everything), while Scot and Jason's treatment of Alecia was disgusting and their prolonged vile misogynistic attitudes were most definitely worse than them

[AarynGriesfan]

Reading all the salt in this thread was totally worth it. Great season good finale and good winner I am very satisfied with the result.

[AarynGriesfan]

The theme is stupid but the theme is pointless anyways. Its always about how good the cast is every season. If the cast is good then season will be good if the cast sucks then the season will suck. So lets hope for a good cast!

[rk3388]

Loved the season, but the winner left a sour taste in my mouth. Non-existent for the first 4/5 of the season then had a few lucky breaks.

[JerseyWins]

Poor Tai never had a chance. :joker:

Decent final 3 & winner. The season was good too despite that I had barely anyone to root for through most of it.

[VanessaFeltz.]

are you ****ing kidding me how the **** that dumb C UNT won over the best player of the season who did flawlessly in each category

[Apollo]

At least this means we will see Aubrey in a second chance season.

Young,pretty,likable will always trump a great strategist. Predictable albeit unsatisfactory end to what would have been an all time great season.

[Apollo]

As soon as she started crying, it was definitely a wrap.

[Apollo]

What was that reunion show?....

Also, All season I was rooting for Cydney, she gets voted out and gives her vote to Michelle, What?
I'm now kind of glad Cydney didn't win.

[Mokka]

Should have been Aubry

Any one notice how she didn't look pleased as Jeff was reading off the votes... I strongly suspect every season that by the time the vote is revealed, they have already told each other what they voted

[AarynGriesfan]

are you ****ing kidding me how the **** that dumb C UNT won over the best player of the season who did flawlessly in each category

Clearly she didn't play flawlessly since she barely got any votes. :joker:

[Braden]

alol at Sia's appearance :love:

[AarynGriesfan]

Should have been Aubry

Any one notice how she didn't look pleased as Jeff was reading off the votes... I strongly suspect every season that by the time the vote is revealed, they have already told each other what they voted

Everyone definitely knows weither they won or lost by this time. That is especially true for this cast who had to wait a full year for their reunion show.

[Braden]

So S33 is basically a rehash of Nicaragua?

[AarynGriesfan]

So S33 is basically a rehash of Nicaragua?

Theme wise sorta. Although the old people in this season aren't nearly as old as the Nicaragua people were.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Clearly she didn't play flawlessly since she barely got any votes. :joker:

she lost 5-3 so thats not barely

[Braden]

Theme wise sorta. Although the old people in this season aren't nearly as old as the Nicaragua people were.

Yeah, I did notice that actually. That's why I was a little confused :p

[MB.]

I'll make my mind up on s33 when I see it but the title doesn't fill me with much hope

(then again, I really liked Nicaragua and I'm a man of simple taste, so if we get just one Wendy DeSmidt-Kohlhoff then I'll be content)

[Mokka]

alol at Sia's appearance :love:

Like wtf was that

[Braden]

It was harsh that Neal was removed from the jury after a stupid amount of days of being at ponderosa and going to tribals, but I'm so glad he was wrong about Michelle after his bitter statement :p

[Braden]

Like wtf was that

It was so hilariously random :joker:

Also, I'm so happy Jeff gave Debbie an honourable shout-out to how entertaining she was :love:

[Mokka]

It was so hilariously random :joker:

Also, I'm so happy Jeff gave Debbie an honourable shout-out to how entertaining she was :love:

Yassss :clap1:

[AarynGriesfan]

she lost 5-3 so thats not barely

She lost 5-2.

[VanessaFeltz.]

She lost 5-2.

well i dont care about that ****ty twist it was 5-3

[Natalie.]

I really enjoyed this season up until now, disappointed with the winner.

[MB.]

Imagine basing your opinion on a season as good as this one solely on the winner

(especially when the winner was actually a good one?)

[Apollo]

Imagine basing your opinion on a season as good as this one solely on the winner

(especially when the winner was actually a good one?)

The outrage from the survivor watching universe is exactly because the season had been soo soo good.

Had Michelle won, another less eventful season, the reaction wouldn't be half as strong.

[LukeB]

I'm going to watch this from the start again because I gave up after episode 5.. :worry:

[Mokka]

Imagine basing your opinion on a season as good as this one solely on the winner

(especially when the winner was actually a good one?)

agreed. One of my favourite seasons in years

I also apply this logic to BBCan 4. **** ending, but sooooo much entertainment value through out

[Braden]

I'm going to watch this from the start again because I gave up after episode 5.. :worry:

Yeah I stopped watching halfway too. Survivor is one of those shows that is difficult to watch on a week to week basis (imo anyway).

[LukeB]

Yeah I stopped watching halfway too. Survivor is one of those shows that is difficult to watch on a week to week basis (imo anyway).

Ignore my VM then :p

Yeah I agree, and with BBCanada on, I was really focusing on watching that live and I just couldn't be bothered with Survivor especially after Alecia's elimination. I think I prefer watching it after the season ends like I was use to when I watched season 1-30 :laugh:

[Apollo]

I will say this though.

Having Michelle win that Immunity challenge to save herself, made her win slightly more bearable.She came up in the clutch and that made me respect her slightly more.

[JerseyWins]

For me Survivor's a show that's hard to watch live because there's so much stuff that's better to just skip through. There's a lot of "extra" stuff put into the show (especially on the finale) and the comps are always painfully long/boring IMO. I don't even bother watching the reunion in the seasons I've been watching and this one reminded me why. :joker:

[AarynGriesfan]

well i dont care about that ****ty twist it was 5-3

If that so called stupid twist didn't exist and they were playing for immunity instead then Aubrey goes home in 3rd place and Michele beats Tai 9-0 in the final 2. That twist actually helped Aubrey more than it hurt her.

[VanessaFeltz.]

If that so called stupid twist didn't exist and they were playing for immunity instead then Aubrey goes home in 3rd place and Michele beats Tai 9-0 in the final 2. That twist actually helped Aubrey more than it hurt her.

it should've been directly f3 and that challenge shouldnt have played. Also you dont know how she would perform if she knew it was for immunity, she was close to win reward anyways.

Also she would've won against tai but not 9-0 im pretty sure it would be like 6-3 (Joe, Neal, Aubry voting Tai)

[VanessaFeltz.]

Even with the ending i really enjoyed this season

[AarynGriesfan]

it should've been directly f3 and that challenge shouldnt have played. Also you dont know how she would perform if she knew it was for immunity, she was close to win reward anyways.

Also she would've won against tai but not 9-0 im pretty sure it would be like 6-3 (Joe, Neal, Aubry voting Tai)

You can't honestly think she didn't try her hardest in that challenge because immunity wasn't on the line. It wasn't day 39 yet so there was always going to be a challenge they just changed up what the prize was to try out this twist. The twist ended up having no real outcome on the game which is perfectly fine with me.

[Headie]

Michele winning :clap1: I think her game is very underrated, she reminds me a lot of Natalie White and her gameplay/win. Overlooked by two big central characters who in the end outplayed themselves tbh.

I was rooting for Cydney but Michele was my second choice so I'm happy! And it sounds like Jeff wants Cydney to play again so here's hoping! Get her and her mom on BvW3 tbh

(also all you naysayers claiming Michele had not shot at winning and her edit proved that... well... :fan:)

[Jack_]

edgic and its stans has to be the worst thing about the Survivor community tbh

[Apollo]

Michele winning :clap1: I think her game is very underrated, she reminds me a lot of Natalie White and her gameplay/win. Overlooked by two big central characters who in the end outplayed themselves tbh.

I was rooting for Cydney but Michele was my second choice so I'm happy! And it sounds like Jeff wants Cydney to play again so here's hoping! Get her and her mom on BvW3 tbh

(also all you naysayers claiming Michele had not shot at winning and her edit proved that... well... :fan:)

The edit was the unfortunate give away.After a 4 odd great week stretch of survivor where move after move was made the only way the Jeff wouldn't have liked the season if someone like Michelle of Joe wound up winning.

Most people just hoped the edit was a false positive.

[Headie]

Mess @ "JEFF! JEFF! Wait, I'm just doing something... I'm Sia!"

[Braden]

edgic and its stans has to be the worst thing about the Survivor community tbh

This is so far from the truth it's hilarious :p

Are you saying people who use edgic are worse than people who are genuine fans of the likes of Scot, Jason, Will, Dan, Corinne & whoever else.

[Braden]

...Not to mention the amount of homophobes, racists and sexists who watch the show.

[Apollo]

Neal says it was Joe and Nick who voted for Aubry.

Cydney and Debbie are such disappointments.

[VanessaFeltz.]

edgic and its stans has to be the worst thing about the Survivor community tbh

THIS.

Like some survivor experts figure out the winner and their stanners and are like OMG MICHELE IS THE WINNER OMFGG JUST LOOK AT THE EDGIC even when she was not shown

[Braden]

THIS.

Like some survivor experts figure out the winner and their stanners and are like OMG MICHELE IS THE WINNER OMFGG JUST LOOK AT THE EDGIC even when she was not shown

And then there are people like you who are equally as bad who take the show seriously and think it's appropriate to call people The C Word just because a result didn't go your way.

[LukeB]

Omg what's going on :worry:

I've just finished the episode where Caleb was taken away I forgot how tense that was. Ughh I really hate Kyle and Scot but I still think Will,Dan and Rodney are more awful but my opinions may change because I've caught up from where I got to before giving up.

[Calderyon]

Michelle´s win makes even Vecepia´s win seem so, so much better. Which in the end, it actually was since i was rooting for the underdogs (Sean, Rob, Vec etc.) at that point.

Definitely in the top 5 of worst winners in Survivor.

[Jack_]

This is so far from the truth it's hilarious :p

Are you saying people who use edgic are worse than people who are genuine fans of the likes of Scot, Jason, Will, Dan, Corinne & whoever else.

Well they're fans of individual players which don't exist from season to season, you can't compare them to something like edgic which is present all the time

...Not to mention the amount of homophobes, racists and sexists who watch the show.

And that goes without saying, but they exist in pretty much anything. That's like someone going 'Roy is definitely the worst thing about Corrie' and then someone replying 'what about the middle England racists who watch it tho!!!'

[Headie]

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Underrated, overlooked, winning queens :flutter:

[Braden]

So they're not part of the Survivor community just because there fans of individual players?

The last part of your post has pretty much answered why your initial comment was wrong. Like, no offence (because I do like you) but it really felt like a childish response trying to get at someone in particular because they were right about something.

[AarynGriesfan]

And then there are people like you who are equally as bad who take the show seriously and think it's appropriate to call people The C Word just because a result didn't go your way.

:clap1:

[EspeonBB]

Michele winning doesn't really effect my opinion on the season lol. Like obviously I would've rather Aubry or Cydney win but Michele isn't awful and played a good, understated game so...

[Headie]

Michele was the only person in Survivor: Kaôh Rōng to win more than one individual Immunity Challenge.
Michele attended her first Tribal Council the latest among other Sole Survivors, she attended her first Tribal Council on Day 22.
Michele is tied with Natalie Anderson for most challenge wins by a female winner with 13.
Michele became the third person from New Jersey to win in the past 5 seasons, the others being Tony Vlachos and Natalie Anderson.
Michele is tied with Cassandra Franklin the record for the least number of Tribal Councils attended of any finalist with 7 each.
Michele currently hold the record for surviving the most days in the game without attending Tribal Council.
Michele is the only winner to never attend a Tribal Council pre-merge.

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[Jack_]

So they're not part of the Survivor community just because there fans of individual players?

The last part of your post has pretty much answered why your initial comment was wrong. Like, no offence (because I do like you) but it really felt like a childish response trying to get at someone in particular because they were right about something.

Eh? There's more than one person who thought Michele was going to win based on the edit, and this isn't the only board I visit...

It's just an annoying part of the fandom that's all, like I don't understand people's obsessions with spoilers for anything at the best of times (why would you want to ruin a show for yourself, that's so stupid to me :umm2:) but actively trying to decode the edit in a bid to work out who wins is even worse...why not just watch the season for what it is? On an episode basis as a passing comment sure, but quite frankly if it's as successful as its proponents claim it is then really it's a spoiler and I have no desire to see it, whether it's here, Sucks, Reddit, Twitter, wherever. I did enough unintentional reading of edits and camera shots on TV shows when I studied Media at A Level without now ending up doing the same thing years later when I watch Survivor

The racists and homophobes thing really should go without saying, that's just pedantic

[Apollo]

All of those thing are a rewording of "The beauty tribe didn't go to tribal council".

lol.

[Calderyon]

Natalie White was actually sweet and likable. I do not get the Michele love at all. Probably never will. I guess it´s just one of those mysterious things.

[Headie]

Natalie White was actually sweet and likable. I do not get the Michele love at all. Probably never will. I guess it´s just one of those mysterious things.

And Michelle was an evil bitch? :joker: There are literally so many similarities between Michele and Natalie A. Liking one and not the other is so silly

[Apollo]

I think I would have liked Michelle better, If i didnt see all those confessionals of her talking about her game and how she was "going to make a move" when she had no control over any of the tribal decisions.

Blah Blah I going to work Tai...Lol, No you won't

Blah Blah This will be big.. Left out of the vote

Blah Blah I need to make this move... No control of events

Blah Blah Watch me make a move and get rid of Julia... Yeah you have no choice.

I would have appreciated some some self awareness. Hey look I don't control anything, I won't influence anyone, I have no moves to make but people seem to like me and thats all I need to win.

Had she said that, I would have been able to get behind her.

[Jack_]

I don't dislike Michele because of how she played cause she had a good social game, it's just that she's entirely irrelevant and ****ing dull, and in a season that's been the opposite to that it's a disappointing end

[Braden]

Eh? There's more than one person who thought Michele was going to win based on the edit, and this isn't the only board I visit...

It's just an annoying part of the fandom that's all, like I don't understand people's obsessions with spoilers for anything at the best of times (why would you want to ruin a show for yourself, that's so stupid to me :umm2:) but actively trying to decode the edit in a bid to work out who wins is even worse...why not just watch the season for what it is? On an episode basis as a passing comment sure, but quite frankly if it's as successful as its proponents claim it is then really it's a spoiler and I have no desire to see it, whether it's here, Sucks, Reddit, Twitter, wherever. I did enough unintentional reading of edits and camera shots on TV shows when I studied Media at A Level without now ending up doing the same thing years later when I watch Survivor

The racists and homophobes thing really should go without saying, that's just pedantic

My first comment was aimed at you saying that people aren't part of the Survivor community because their like/dislike for players changes on a season by season basis. That doesn't make them any less of the Survivor community imo.

It's different strokes for different folks, which is why I thought your comment was a bit far-fetched. Like you've explained; there is logic and theory behind editing, which is why some people find it interesting. There analysing the show they love, and they're not necessarily spoiling themselves by doing so. I understand why people would find it annoying. However, there are archetypes of Survivor fans. When you have teen girls (or boys) who send death threats and racist comments towards people like Abi-Maria because they vote out 'godly' players like Joe, saying that 'edgic stans' (which aren't really even a thing) are the worst part of the community is a bit harsh and offensive imo.

But it's fine, I understand where your coming from.

[Headie]

I don't dislike Michele because of how she played cause she had a good social game, it's just that she's entirely irrelevant and ****ing dull, and in a season that's been the opposite to that it's a disappointing end

But that's the editors fault though? Spending too much time on dicks like Jason and Scot rather than, y'know, the actual winner who played the best social game of the season? :shrug:

[Braden]

I don't think this forum has been this divisive about a winner before so calling Michele dull is quite ironic :p

[Jack_]

My first comment was aimed at you saying that people aren't part of the Survivor community because their like/dislike for players changes on a season by season basis. That doesn't make them any less of the Survivor community imo.

It's different strokes for different folks, which is why I thought your comment was a bit far-fetched. Like you've explained; there is logic and theory behind editing, which is why some people find it interesting. There analysing the show they love, and they're not necessarily spoiling themselves by doing so. I understand why people would find it annoying. However, there are archetypes of Survivor fans. When you have teen girls (or boys) who send death threats and racist comments towards people like Abi-Maria because they vote out 'godly' players like Joe, saying that 'edgic stans' (which aren't really even a thing) are the worst part of the community is a bit harsh and offensive imo.

But it's fine, I understand where your coming from.

But they're specific fans, not generalisable ones that exist every season (like homophobic/racist ones, cat ladies, tweens etc etc - these are who'd I'd call part of the 'community', not specific fans of contestants cause they change season to season).

Those people aren't running the risk of affecting my enjoyment of a season though, but of course that's disgusting and my comment was just a turn of phrase and not meant to be taken literally. A lot of people who use edgic do think it's usually accurate though and it clearly was here so really, it is kind of a spoiler? And I just don't want to see it. Like, live and let live and if that's how people wish to view the show that's their prerogative (even though that and actual spoilers I find so baffling and show-ruining), but it doesn't mean I want to see it, especially if it turns out to be correct. I make a point of avoiding spoilers themselves so this really should be the same thing, but I can't because it's everywhere, even in regular discussion threads. It's not very fair on those who just wish to watch the season and enjoy the journey.

[Calderyon]

And Michelle was an evil bitch? :joker: There are literally so many similarities between Michele and Natalie A. Liking one and not the other is so silly

When did i say that? That´s right, i didn´t.

And it´s Natalie White, not Natalie Anderson.

[reece(:]

Michele scalping Tai at tribal wasn't dull

[Jack_]

But that's the editors fault though? Spending too much time on dicks like Jason and Scot rather than, y'know, the actual winner who played the best social game of the season? :shrug:

If the only reason the editors started giving Michele any airtime was because she ended up winning and they had no other choice, that tells you all you need to know about how entertaining and essential a character to the season she was.

Like yeah Jason and Scot are repugnant but let's be real their storyline and eventual demise (along with the incredible blindside) is just one of the many things that made this season so great to watch. Michele on the other hand was totally irrelevant most of the time :shrug:

I don't think this forum has been this divisive about a winner before so calling Michele dull is quite ironic :p

The only reason her win is being debated is because people either think she didn't play a good enough game or (in my case) that she was just dull, neither negate that tbh

[LukeB]

Does Michelle get a better edit in future episodes? four episodes in and I have no clue who Michelle is.

[Jack_]

Does Michelle get a better edit in future episodes? four episodes in and I have no clue who Michelle is.

:joker: precisely my point

Yeah she does eventually

[Braden]

But they're specific fans, not generalisable ones that exist every season (like homophobic/racist ones, cat ladies, tweens etc etc - these are who'd I'd call part of the 'community', not specific fans of contestants cause they change season to season).

Those people aren't running the risk of affecting my enjoyment of a season though, but of course that's disgusting and my comment was just a turn of phrase and not meant to be taken literally. A lot of people who use edgic do think it's usually accurate though and it clearly was here so really, it is kind of a spoiler? And I just don't want to see it. Like, live and let live and if that's how people wish to view the show that's their prerogative (even though that and actual spoilers I find so baffling and show-ruining), but it doesn't mean I want to see it, especially if it turns out to be correct. I make a point of avoiding spoilers themselves so this really should be the same thing, but I can't because it's everywhere, even in regular discussion threads. It's not very fair on those who just wish to watch the season and enjoy the journey.

What other 'specific' fans are there then? You've just contradicted yourself because in your last post you said that 'edgic stans' are part of the community every season. There are no such thing as generalised fans or specific fans, and I don't think that's a fair way to justify what you said.

Edgic is only ever other people's perception based on editing, so to say that it's a spoiler is a little bit silly. Forums have always been far more analytical than casual fans, and what you describe is what a casual viewer is. Maybe it would be best to watch it without interacting with other people on here. I know that comes across really rude, but like other people have said; it's not our fault the editing has become so predictable. People want to discuss it just as much as anyone else, but the fact of the matter is that it's an opinion based on logic.

[Braden]

If the only reason the editors started giving Michele any airtime was because she ended up winning and they had no other choice, that tells you all you need to know about how entertaining and essential a character to the season she was.

Like yeah Jason and Scot are repugnant but let's be real their storyline and eventual demise (along with the incredible blindside) is just one of the many things that made this season so great to watch. Michele on the other hand was totally irrelevant most of the time :shrug:



The only reason her win is being debated is because people either think she didn't play a good enough game or (in my case) that she was just dull, neither negate that tbh

Which is ironic because people have displayed a lot of hate, whilst others have expressed a lot of love.

It's funny that some people have bitterly said that Michele has been forgotten already. She's obviously a polarising character :p

[Apollo]

Does Michelle get a better edit in future episodes? four episodes in and I have no clue who Michelle is.

Will be quiet
Will eat a burger
Will win immunity
Will win survivor

[Apollo]

Which is ironic because people have displayed a lot of hate, whilst others have expressed a lot of love.

It's funny that some people have bitterly said that Michele has been forgotten already. She's obviously a polarising character :p

Her character wasn't polarising, her winning over Aubry was.

[Braden]

Will be quiet
Will eat a burger
Will win immunity
Will win survivor

If I were on Survivor this is literally how I would want to win :laugh:

[Braden]

Her character wasn't polarising, her winning over Aubry was.

I disagree completely. These sentiments were repeated way before she won over Aubry.

[Jack_]

What other 'specific' fans are there then? You've just contradicted yourself because in your last post you said that 'edgic stans' are part of the community every season. There are no such thing as generalised fans or specific fans, and I don't think that's a fair way to justify what you said.

Edgic is only ever other people's perception based on editing, so to say that it's a spoiler is a little bit silly. Forums have always been far more analytical than casual fans, and what you describe is what a casual viewer is. Maybe it would be best to watch it without interacting with other people on here. I know that comes across really rude, but like other people have said; it's not our fault the editing has become so predictable. People want to discuss it just as much as anyone else, but the fact of the matter is that it's an opinion based on logic.

Because they are? Fans of Will, Scot, Jason etc are not, they exist for one season unless they play again. Saying something like 'fans of the attractive men', 'fans of the douche guys', 'racist/homophobic fans' would make more sense because these archetypes also exist every season. I don't consider fans of specific players to be part of what I term 'community', when I say 'community' I mean sections of it that always exist like the casuals, cat ladies, tweens, superfans etc etc. Besides, I've already said my comment wasn't supposed to be taken literally so I'm not sure why this discussion is continuing tbh

But it is, especially if its proponents claim it's so accurate - that makes it a spoiler, if not certainly on the borderline. Of course forums are more analytical but to the extent of decoding the edit to work out who wins? That's far more niche, just like those who wish to read actual spoilers are. Maybe the best compromise would either be just to keep in depth discussion of the edit to the spoiler thread or create one for it? That way everyone is happy

[Apollo]

I disagree completely. These sentiments were repeated way before she won over Aubry.

Some disliked because of how explosive the season was and how quiet she was in comparison, True.

But, had it been a final 2 with Tai and Michelle.A lot would not have reacted in disbelief or anger when Michelle won. Tai's flaws were glaring, and as entertaining as he was his game was unfocused, erratic, and most found him to be untrustworthy.

The reason Michelle winning has exploded the internet is because she was sitting next to Aubry.

[Braden]

Okay, I'm going to stop here because this could go on forever and I'm not repeating myself :p

I've only glimpsed over the second paragraph, and we already have a separate spoiler thread (if I remember). I don't mind using it for edgic reasons but I don't know if it will prevent others from saying their opinion? It could be quite confusing.

[Braden]

:blush:Some disliked because of how explosive the season was and how quiet she was in comparison, True.

But, had it been a final 2 with Tai and Michelle.A lot would not have reacted in disbelief or anger when Michelle won. Tai's flaws were glaring, and as entertaining as he was his game was unfocused, erratic, and most found him to be untrustworthy.

The reason Michelle winning has exploded the internet is because she was sitting next to Aubry.

I think it all comes back to editing. Aubry was edited as an all-star to root for so people were going to be unhappy regardless. I don't think it makes Michele 'dull' though. She owned the finale and deserved her win, but that's obviously what I think.

[VanessaFeltz.]

And then there are people like you who are equally as bad who take the show seriously and think it's appropriate to call people The C Word just because a result didn't go your way.

i watched the show for weeks, i got pissed because someone undeserving won, i think im allowed to have passion about something and i am done with it i dont even hate michelle i think she is just irrel.

calling her c word was wrong, saying what i think and expressing my feelings werw not

[Braden]

i watched the show for weeks, i got pissed because someone undeserving won, i think im allowed to have passion about something and i am done with it i dont even hate michelle i think she is just irrel.

calling her c word was wrong, saying what i think and expressing my feelings werw not

Of course you can. I understand that completely. Your overreaction just lead me to believe that you shouldn't put yourself on a pedestal compared to other fans.

But I'm not getting into that again, so it's cool :p

[Headie]

When did i say that? That´s right, i didn´t.

And it´s Natalie White, not Natalie Anderson.

You're making out like Michele and Natalie are different because "Natalie was nice and sweet"... :conf:

[Headie]

If the only reason the editors started giving Michele any airtime was because she ended up winning and they had no other choice, that tells you all you need to know about how entertaining and essential a character to the season she was.

Like yeah Jason and Scot are repugnant but let's be real their storyline and eventual demise (along with the incredible blindside) is just one of the many things that made this season so great to watch. Michele on the other hand was totally irrelevant most of the time :shrug:

That's the editors fault though. You could say if Jason and Scot got no airtime with all their shenanigans edited out, and Michele got all the airtime this season then she was the reason for this season being made :conf:

[Jack_]

That's the editors fault though. You could say if Jason and Scot got no airtime with all their shenanigans edited out, and Michele got all the airtime this season then she was the reason for this season being made :conf:

Well of course, that goes without saying! The editors determine the direction of the season, but if Michele was all that interesting I'm sure they'd have given her more airtime before they absolutely had to, but they didn't.

Hypothetical discussions about edited shows are pointless and I never understand why people bother tbh. Making points like 'well maybe she is entertaining but just isn't being shown!' is a moot one because how are we supposed to know that? I'm not going to support someone on the off-chance they're actually doing something that we're not seeing, we only have what's in front of us or else what's the point in watching the show? This is why I prefer shows with live feed because you can judge how accurate the edit is, but with Survivor and BBUK all you have is the editor's judgement and I'd think that if something was noteworthy enough by a contestant, they'd make the edit.

[Headie]

Well of course, that goes without saying! The editors determine the direction of the season, but if Michele was all that interesting I'm sure they'd have given her more airtime before they absolutely had to, but they didn't.

Hypothetical discussions about edited shows are pointless and I never understand why people bother tbh. Making points like 'well maybe she is entertaining but just isn't being shown!' is a moot one because how are we supposed to know that? I'm not going to support someone on the off-chance they're actually doing something that we're not seeing, we only have what's in front of us or else what's the point in watching the show? This is why I prefer shows with live feed because you can judge how accurate the edit is, but with Survivor and BBUK all you have is the editor's judgement and I'd think that if something was noteworthy enough by a contestant, they'd make the edit.

I honestly urge you to watch S19, or even S22 tbh as those seasons just show how some amazing characters and storylines are overlooked when the editors only focus on editing 1 or 2 main characters and giving everyone else irrelevant edits. Whilst this season has been great, I've no doubt that there were other interesting storylines which would've been entertaining for me to watch, some of which probably included Michelle. I'd much rather see this unexplored stories than have the 'SPECIAL HII POWER WILL IT BE USED WON'T IT?' storyline shoved down our throats every episode, especially when it concerns two people who already get more airtime than they deserve due to their bullying tactics.

I really want you to watch S19 now and tell me your opinions on it :laugh: I think I know who you'd root for but they're known for being a season ruiner by most online fans due to how much airtime they got :laugh:

[EspeonBB]

I still can't believe the next season is called "Millennials vs. Gen X" :joker: Couldn't they have just named it after the location

[Braden]

I still can't believe the next season is called "Millennials vs. Gen X" :joker: Couldn't they have just named it after the location

Literally me once I heard it :p

[Headie]

I still can't believe the next season is called "Millennials vs. Gen X" :joker: Couldn't they have just named it after the location

The last season without a tagline was South Pacific. This will be the 10th in a row with a tagline. Kinda sad tbh, I miss when it was just good ole' Survivor with 16-20 castaways randomly divided into 2 tribes.

[LukeB]

Survivor is back in September right?

[Mokka]

The last season without a tagline was South Pacific. This will be the 10th in a row with a tagline. Kinda sad tbh, I miss when it was just good ole' Survivor with 16-20 castaways randomly divided into 2 tribes.

:clap1: :clap1:

[Calderyon]

You're making out like Michele and Natalie are different because "Natalie was nice and sweet"... :conf:

Tbh i don´t see any similarities between them. Natalie was sweet, cute and somewhat entertaining, Michelle is just... boring and dull at best.

I never said she was a b-word though. Never.

[_Tom_]

What a disappointing ending to what has been a brilliant season. Michelle has been invisible for the vast majority of this season and has done nothing to warrant winning.

I thought the twist to vote off a jury member was interesting, but so unfair. They've worked hard to get as far as the jury and have earned their vote in the final, it's not fair to strip them of that at the last minute.

I loved Sia's appearance, what a lovely thing she did for Tai and his charity :love:

And I am totally confused as to what the next season is about, wtf at the title. :umm2:

[_Tom_]

Yeah I stopped watching halfway too. Survivor is one of those shows that is difficult to watch on a week to week basis (imo anyway).

I get this. It's one of my favorite shows but it's such a chore to actually watch most weeks :shrug:

[Headie]

Idek why everyone's complaining Michele beat Aubry when y'all should be complaining that Cydney did not get the win she deserved :fist:

[Headie]

Watching Ponderosa now, the bitterness from Scot, Jason and Julia @ Cydney beating them :joker: They're so sad

[Macie Lightfoot]

for what it's worth, I do edgic because I like organizing reality TV seasons into color-coded Excel boxes, not because I think the editing team adheres to edgic rules when editing the season to make sure that they're winner is viable, but Michele's first confessional about being a bartender and her anticipated social game was such an obvious winner confessional lol. Not to mention that so many events were unnecessarily told through her point of view.

[Macie Lightfoot]

If the only reason the editors started giving Michele any airtime was because she ended up winning and they had no other choice, that tells you all you need to know about how entertaining and essential a character to the season she was.

or it just tells you all you need to know about how this show views women

[iRyan]

I like Michelle but she really didn't deserve to win over Aubry or Tai.

[Apollo]

Watching Ponderosa now, the bitterness from Scot, Jason and Julia @ Cydney beating them :joker: They're so sad

I hate sore losers on survivor.blow having a super idol and blame it on the rest of the world.If only they were a tenth as smart as they thought they were.

[Apollo]

Idek why everyone's complaining Michele beat Aubry when y'all should be complaining that Cydney did not get the win she deserved :fist:
39 days and can't get a fire started.

[Apollo]

or it just tells you all you need to know about how this show views women

That doesn't make much sense tbh, Cyd and Aubry were edited as the strongest players. Both are women.

[Samm]

Michelle was a cute neutral winner

[Headie]

That doesn't make much sense tbh, Cyd and Aubry were edited as the strongest players. Both are women.

If Michele was male though she would've had a massive social mastermind edit or something

[Calderyon]

If Michele was male and everything else was the same, he would most likely be hated and slated as the worst winner ever.

[Headie]

If Michele was male and everything else was the same, he would most likely be hated and slated as the worst winner ever.

If Michele was male, she'd get a better edit. Period.