Survivor: Kaôh Rōng Discussion Thread

[Apollo]

If Michele was male, she'd get a better edit. Period.

You understand and acknowledge that the females (Cydney and Aubrey) got the best edits of the season. They are female!!!

So how you can say she got a bad edit because she was a female is beyond me.You aren't making any sense.

[LukeB]

Why don't they show the full titles anymore?

and I feel for the finalist having to wait one year to find out if they have won.

[Macie Lightfoot]

You understand and acknowledge that the females (Cydney and Aubrey) got the best edits of the season. They are female!!!

So how you can say she got a bad edit because she was a female is beyond me.You aren't making any sense.

lol if you're gonna deny the sexism that comes with this show from the editing team and Jeff Probst himself then idk what to tell you. Like, of course Aubry is gonna get a big edit, she was compared to Cochran in the reunion. They're more concerned with making fan favorites than justifying the winner's win.

[Jack_]

I honestly urge you to watch S19, or even S22 tbh as those seasons just show how some amazing characters and storylines are overlooked when the editors only focus on editing 1 or 2 main characters and giving everyone else irrelevant edits. Whilst this season has been great, I've no doubt that there were other interesting storylines which would've been entertaining for me to watch, some of which probably included Michelle. I'd much rather see this unexplored stories than have the 'SPECIAL HII POWER WILL IT BE USED WON'T IT?' storyline shoved down our throats every episode, especially when it concerns two people who already get more airtime than they deserve due to their bullying tactics.

I really want you to watch S19 now and tell me your opinions on it :laugh: I think I know who you'd root for but they're known for being a season ruiner by most online fans due to how much airtime they got :laugh:

If S34 has returning players (including winners) then I'm planning to try and finish my Survivor watch before it airs (a bit like how if it transpires BB18 is gonna have vets then I wanna finish the last few seasons off), but those seasons are still quite a while off :laugh: I'll let you know though

Even so, most people this season got a fairly well developed edit (something which most people agree is a good thing and a reason why it's been so good), if Michele was at all interesting I don't see any reason why they wouldn't have shown her more before they absolutely had to. Natalie Anderson was always a part of her season, so I don't think it's because she's a woman

I'm happy Scot and Jason got as much airtime as they did because it exposed them for the disgusting twats they are and has led to them receiving the abuse they deserve, I think that can only be a good thing. I'd much prefer that than if their behaviour had been brushed under the carpet and poor Alecia never received any justice

or it just tells you all you need to know about how this show views women

If this were true then Aubry and Cydney wouldn't have received edits which put them on a pedestal as the stars of the season (moreso than any man bar Tai) and made them fan faves, and Alecia wouldn't have been portrayed as vulnerable and as a victim of Scot and Jason's bullying

If Michele was male and everything else was the same, he would most likely be hated and slated as the worst winner ever.

lmao this is so true, he'd be called out for being the dullard she is

[Apollo]

lol if you're gonna deny the sexism that comes with this show from the editing team and Jeff Probst himself then idk what to tell you. Like, of course Aubry is gonna get a big edit, she was compared to Cochran in the reunion. They're more concerned with making fan favorites than justifying the winner's win.


You can't on one hand say females won't get a good edit because they are females, but the females that received a good edit don't matter even though they were females.

There is no logic here.Only contradictions.

[Headie]

You understand and acknowledge that the females (Cydney and Aubrey) got the best edits of the season. They are female!!!

So how you can say she got a bad edit because she was a female is beyond me.You aren't making any sense.

Lol I never said she got a "bad edit because she is female"... I said if she was a male her edit would be 100x better than the current edit.

[Headie]

Just like if Cydney or Aubry were males, their edits would be better than their currently good edits rn

[Apollo]

Just like if Cydney or Aubry were males, their edits would be better than their currently good edits rn

I think you're looking for something that isn't there. The strongest players were portrayed as the strongest players, these players happened to be females and that was what was reflected.

If we're saying that even though the best edits of the season and fan favourites were females,it would have been even better had they been males its a level of conjecture I'm not sure I have an adequate reply for.

[Jack_]

Just like if Cydney or Aubry were males, their edits would be better than their currently good edits rn

I don't see how their edits could get any better though, there was little to no negativity in their portrayals whatsoever and they were put on a pedestal to become fan favourites despite the fact they didn't even win. They had overwhelmingly good edits

[AarynGriesfan]

Michele had 74 confessionals to Cydney's 57. So if you think Cydney got way more airtime then Michele did then you are wrong. It sounds like you guys were just paying more attention to Cydney then Michele. That's not Michele or the editor's fault that's yours.

Aubry got 107 but of course she is going to get more airtime because the producers knew the fans were going to love the female version of Cochran. Plus we all know that they are going to bring back Aubry some time soon so they are going to give her more airtime so they can turn her into a fan favorite.

[Headie]

Michele had 74 confessionals to Cydney's 57. So if you think Cydney got way more airtime then Michele did then you are wrong. It sounds like you guys were just paying more attention to Cydney then Michele. That's not Michele or the editor's fault that's yours.

Aubry got 107 but of course she is going to get more airtime because the producers knew the fans were going to love the female version of Cochran. Plus we all know that they are going to bring back Aubry some time soon so they are going to give her more airtime so they can turn her into a fan favorite.

Yeah that's another good point, it's clear Aubry/Cydney/Tai etc were getting bigger edits since producers already knew they'd most likely be returning in future (at this point they'd already started casting/getting a feel for the S34 cast) and winners don't usually come back so soon after their win so Michele was paid dust

[reece(:]

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[Braden]

I'm jealous of Cydney's abs :(

[AarynGriesfan]

Yeah that's another good point, it's clear Aubry/Cydney/Tai etc were getting bigger edits since producers already knew they'd most likely be returning in future (at this point they'd already started casting/getting a feel for the S34 cast) and winners don't usually come back so soon after their win so Michele was paid dust

Yeah all three of those people will definitely be back at some point especially Aubrey and Tai so they had to really build up those 2. Michele won and they got plenty of good looking girls to choose from as returning players so she will probably never play again.

[Headie]

Sia is the reason Cydney was overlooked at the reunion

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[MB.]

Right, that's it, Sia's dropping in my season ranking

[Macie Lightfoot]

You can't on one hand say females won't get a good edit because they are females, but the females that received a good edit don't matter even though they were females.

There is no logic here.Only contradictions.

My point is that a young woman like Michele receiving a low-vis edit is hardly anything new on Survivor. Look at how many bikini girls have received UTR edits just in the past ten seasons alone. And as for the sexism that's rampant on this show, look at how Jeff Probst has still misinterpreted Parvati's win as "she hypnotized the men with her boobs" 10 years later. Look at how any male returnee cast is stacked with Spencer Bledsoes and Jim Rices and Joe Anglims while the female returnee casts are just filled with forgettable chicks who are conventionally attractive in order to keep the gender ratio in balance. Rob, Russell, Ozzy, Coach, Skupin, Penner, and Russell Swan have all had their own centerpiece seasons while Natalie Tenerelli and Mikayla Wingle and Stephanie Valencia are three of the options for Cambodia, and fifth boot Monica Culpepper was brought back in Blood vs. Water literally only because she's married to a football player. If you don't see any difference in how Survivor views men and how Survivor views women then you're blind.

On a slightly unrelated note, I'm still confused as to why people are in such denial of the game Michele played and are acting like she wasn't a deserving winner. Like sure, she didn't have any flashy Idol plays on her resume, but she never needed to? Her social game was excellent and it's what took her through the end. It's one thing to not piss people off, but it's another thing to vote out your own allies and have them be proud of you. I know some people have compared her to Natalie White, but I think Jenna Morasca and Lisa Donahue (BBUS) are more apt comparisons.

[LukeB]

Scot and Jason :umm2:

Nick has just been eliminated and they are acting like babies by sabotaging the camp. Pathetic.

[MB.]

I like what it says about this season's bizarre scheduling that this thread was made a year ago

[reece(:]

Tai "I think me and Aubry have the same kind of computer keep running running running"
Joe "Yeah except your computer is a bit more haywire"

lmao

[LukeB]

THIS SEASON IS AMAZING!!

got a few episodes left but I'm loving every episode :flutter:

[Headie]

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[Headie]

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[Jack_]

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

[LukeB]

:joker:

[MB.]

Other random post show updates:

a) Joe's dog died today you guys </3
b) A bunch of random Survivors have been meeting up (Alecia and Keith Nale (https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13327407_10101768464165826_6932294805556382761_n.j pg?oh=41f701ade066615c6e547771c1372bdd&oe=5807A08A), Michele, Alecia and Brooke from Guatemala (???) plus fans (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkI9fE8UYAE77Qy.jpg)) so there's that

[AarynGriesfan]

Other random post show updates:

a) Joe's dog died today you guys </3
b) A bunch of random Survivors have been meeting up (Alecia and Keith Nale (https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13327407_10101768464165826_6932294805556382761_n.j pg?oh=41f701ade066615c6e547771c1372bdd&oe=5807A08A), Michele, Alecia and Brooke from Guatemala (???) plus fans (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkI9fE8UYAE77Qy.jpg)) so there's that

Yeah there was an event in Cincinnati that brought a lot of Survivors and some amazing racers and some big brother people together.

[reece(:]

screaming @ Brooke

[MB.]

Yeah there was an event in Cincinnati that brought a lot of Survivors and some amazing racers and some big brother people together.

That makes quite a bit of sense yes

[Dominic]

Brooke is a Top 3 Guatemala contestant and so are Morgan and Brianna :love: :love:

[reece(:]

Brooke is a Top 3 Guatemala contestant and so are Morgan and Brianna :love: :love:

Justice 4 Margaret

[Dominic]

Justice 4 Margaret
in reality Marg is in my top 4.

[JerseyWins]

Lol Brooke & Brianna were sooooo irrelevant. Morgan kinda was too but I liked her (and she was a little bit more involved).

[EspeonBB]

I miss this season

[Dominic]

Brianna's MORN4 rivalry with Lydia <3

[Firewire]

I just watched episode 10 (I'm so far behind oop)

bai Scot x

[MB.]

Scot went? omg spoilers Jonathan

[Firewire]

Oop if people haven't seen it but the season ended like a month ago

[MB.]

I was joking dw I know Jennifer wins

[Firewire]

Legend Jen

[Munchkins]

Michele winning is one of the first time's my favourite has won:dance:, and i've watched nearly every season.
(I did love Aubry too mind)

[Firewire]

I finally finished this last night

Aubry was robbed :hmph:

Great season overall though, Deblegend <333

[MB.]

King of taking two months to watch four episodes

[reece(:]

I miss Joe and Debbie

[Firewire]

King of taking two months to watch four episodes

Lmao tell me about it

I had them downloaded as well I just never got round to watching it but I realised Australian Survivor starts on Sunday and I want to be up to date before that starts :joker:

It took me until today to be up to date with BBUS as well

[DouglasS]

I'm still watching this season, season 31 put me off. I knew who won the series prior and a few spoilers but still really enjoying it. I knew nothing from pre jury/merge onwards, so was shocked by some votes.

I'm at the final 5 now, I thought the series was gunna die after Debbie, but I'm enjoying it. Although would have preferred Aubry or Cydney to win over Michelle. Michelle hasn't really done anything, but I appreciate shes managed the jury really well, I always tend to root for the more aggressive players though.

[DouglasS]

Finally finished the season, I really enjoyed it. Would have been much better had Aubry [or even Cindy] won the show as they definitely deserved it far more. Michelle kinda coasted through the game avoiding making any moves really. Aubry played hard and had a great social game also, kinda shocked the jury were bitter.

[Macie Lightfoot]

if Aubry's social game was so good maybe she would have received more votes to win :p

[MB.]

Yeah the jury weren't bitter, they just had no idea that Aubry was behind everything that she was behind because she was that secretive about it - I think Scot and Jason are both on record saying they would have 100% voted Aubry knowing what they do now, but it's really only her fault that she kept her cards so close to her chest

(btw, congrats on 15k posts Troy hurn)

[LukeB]

Finally finished the season, I really enjoyed it. Would have been much better had Aubry [or even Cindy] won the show as they definitely deserved it far more. Michelle kinda coasted through the game avoiding making any moves really. Aubry played hard and had a great social game also, kinda shocked the jury were bitter.

Don't worry Aubry will be more remembered and got asked back..Aubry stays winning.

[Braden]

Oh my, I loved it when Michelle won :love:

[MB.]

@ teh hatahz

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[DouglasS]

if Aubry's social game was so good maybe she would have received more votes to win :p

I genuinely just believe it's because of Scott though, Scott is very egotistical and is not a normal person, as he knows Michelle wasn't involved in getting him out he voted purely on that. Scott has a grasp on a lot of people like Jason etc, and as a result I believe Michelle won just because stupid people were cast who follow 'the big man' or orders. I do believe Aubry would have got Jason's and Debbie's vote easily, perhaps Cydney's also.

[MB.]

Aubry did get Nick's vote

[DouglasS]

Survivor Philippines, Blood vs Water, Cagayan, San Juan Del Sur and this season shows that Survivor is still producing great TV and has not slowed down, unlike Big Brother, with BB12,BB14,BB16,BB18 all being some of the worst. [BB15 not being 'good' either tbh]

[DouglasS]

Aubry did get Nick's vote

Oh yeah. I still feel like had Scott been nullified, Aubry would have won 5-2, with Julia and maybe Debbie voting the other way.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Don't worry Aubry will be more remembered and got asked back..Aubry stays winning.

except Michele has a million to her name

[MB.]

Oh yeah. I still feel like had Scott been nullified, Aubry would have won 5-2, with Julia and maybe Debbie voting the other way.

The thing is, Aubry hadn't made her role in orchestrating the votes clear enough - even to her own alliance members, like Julia and Debbie - so the majority of the jury just assumed she was exaggerating at FTC. Julia had a near unbreakable relationship with Michele (which Michele broke, but... that's for another time), Cydney felt betrayed, Debbie's a nutcase... Aubry only really had Neal's and Joe's votes as a lock, and anything she said to plead her case to the jury would have been seen as her inflating the facts, rather than telling the truth as she was

Aubry winning the final reward and nullifying a vote could have made a difference because it would have properly established her as a comp beast in charge of her own game, but it was probably too late by that point tbh

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah there no way Julia was voting for anyone other than Winchele lol

[LukeB]

except Michele has a million to her name

She doesn't have the whole one million because it's been taxed off. But Aubry has more fans,will be remembered and will be asked back (oh wait she has) so Aubry caring.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yes because getting asked back to the thirty-fourth season of a show with a cult following certainly makes you the true winner over someone who actually won and has the money to show for it

[LukeB]

yes because getting asked back to the thirty-third season of a show with a cult following certainly makes you the true winner over someone who actually won and has the money to show for it

thirty-forth actually...

Michelle won the real state the obvious but Aubry won in my eyes so i don't care about that irrelevant bore.

[MB.]

Meanwhile Michele's currently on vacation in Panama :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

yes that's why I edited my post already

and you clearly care if you're still bitter about it three or four months after the fact #winchele #controverchele

[LukeB]

yes that's why I edited my post already

and you clearly care if you're still bitter about it three or four months after the fact #winchele #controverchele

I don't really care who wins/loses It's only a tv show it doesn't effect my life like it does yours :joker: I'm not bitter lol.

[MB.]

Nothing on Aubry but I'd rather play in an all winners season than in one with Brad Culpepper and Hali

[MB.]

And we're in a reality TV sub-forum on a reality TV board can we not make out like we don't get overly worked up about reality TV results

[Macie Lightfoot]

who's affected? you're the one going on about how Aubry's the true winner bc fans love her and she's playing on a second season bc production is striking while the iron's hot

[Braden]

Can we not with the Hali shade.

She is making it to the final tribal council with Sierra Dawn Thomas.

[LukeB]

who's affected? you're the one going on about how Aubry's the true winner bc fans love her and she's playing on a second season bc production is striking while the iron's hot

It's just a bloody saying lol didn't know you take it seriously soz.

It's like when Jason said Davonne stays winning when Shelli sent her home in his rant on his thread.

Idk why I'm so fumed actually. Like Da'Vonne gets asked back a year later for BB18 whilst Shelli and Clay aren't together anymore and Shelli is probably now fat somewhere so Da'Vonne stays winning

but ofc you only have an issue when I say it lolol.

[MB.]

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stays winning :love:

[AarynGriesfan]

She doesn't have the whole one million because it's been taxed off. But Aubry has more fans,will be remembered and will be asked back (oh wait she has) so Aubry caring.

Winning and money > having more fans.

[MB.]

On the subject of jurors:

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[MB.]

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Spending her #winning money wisely :love:

[Firewire]

Legend

[MB.]

Worlds collide

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(yes this is just a What Is Michele Fitzgerald Doing Now thread these days, deal with it imho)

[Headie]

Throwback

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[MB.]

An iconic season with an iconic winner!

[Calderyon]

Good season, the winner was meh.

[Headie]

I just discovered this :joker:

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[JerseyWins]

I don't understand why Michele seems to be such a SUPER loved or SUPER hated player. :joker: She's actually sooooooo middle of the pack to me... decent with no strong feelings towards her whatsoever.

[Headie]

Watched this vid recently and it reminded me how Cydney really was robbed of the win </3 I really want her back for another season

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[EspeonBB]

Apparently Cydney was meant to come back for S34 but she wanted to focus on her career as a bodybuilder and obviously Survivor would interfere with that

I think she'll be back one day but her career makes it difficult

[JerseyWins]

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