Big Brother 17 Live Feed Discussion Thread

[reece(:]

Steve and Van noms?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Steve and Van noms?

She might want to backdoor Vanessa

[Macie Lightfoot]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/JJaney/0%20BB17/ICE/Beckywins.gif

choo choo!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Vanessa really ****ed up today, why confront people before the HOH comp?

[AarynGriesfan]

This HoH reign is going to be a real trainwreck.

[reece(:]

Vanessa really ****ed up today, why confront people before the HOH comp?
Because she is an emotional mess.

It's hard to believe this girl has millions from poker playing..

[Calderyon]

Wow. My stream is behind.

Comp still going on on mine.

[AarynGriesfan]

With Clay gone maybe the target on Shelli won't be nearly as big. Clay did tell John to work with Shelli because she will be loyal to him so that also might help save Shelli this week. Totally willing to sacrifice Vanessa or Liztin for Shelli's safety this week.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Feeds come back and Shelli's crying

[Calderyon]

Finally the comp is over here.

So Becky HoH. Vanessa or Shelli gone then.

[Macie Lightfoot]

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[JerseyWins]

Either Shelli/Steve or Shelli/Liz noms would make sense with a Vanessa backdoor plan.

That other side of the house has the numbers this week to take anyone they want out no matter what.

[JerseyWins]

Has Becky mentioned anything yet?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Becky just told Jackie that Vanessa's fight today is perfect for her so she'll like her noms <333333

[Macie Lightfoot]

John just told Steve that he wants them to make an alliance with Jackie and Becky?

[reece(:]

Get those allies Jackie!

[JerseyWins]

I would actually really like a John/Steve/Becky/Jackie alliance. Get Jackie away from Meg & James.

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa still talking about the thing from earlier. Jackie looks like she just wants to snap. :joker: :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

yay Becky's plan is to nominate Shelli and Steve, preach that they're sticking to the plan of backdooring John, and then backdoor Vanessa <3

[JerseyWins]

The only thing is it seems stupid to say they're gonna backdoor John... :joker: But other than that, Becky knows what she's doing... perfect noms decided. :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

They're imitating Vanessa and stuff. This is hilarious. :laugh3:

[Macie Lightfoot]

screaming at "your HoH reigns have taught me as HoH I'm allowed to change my mind and my target" and "I've worked Black Friday, I know how to handle Vanessa" :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Omg I'm starting to like Jackie so much more lately. :joker: :joker: :joker:

[JerseyWins]

screaming at "your HoH reigns have taught me as HoH I'm allowed to change my mind and my target" and "I've worked Black Friday, I know how to handle Vanessa" :joker:
Also, this :joker: Becky :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

The only thing is it seems stupid to say they're gonna backdoor John... :joker: But other than that, Becky knows what she's doing... perfect noms decided. :clap1:

That's what the whole Dark Moon 2.0 bull**** plan was so as unbelievable as it is I kinda get it.

[JerseyWins]

Ohhhh, never saw that. That explains the whole argument from earlier then and what John was covering for Becky about. Didn't even know he was covering for Becky until I read that here.

That makes sense then, good plan for the week. Might be better to nominate Liz over Steve just to make sure the POV gets used no matter what but that kinda unnecessarily makes the twins & Austin doubt Becky so not exactly the best idea.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I *LOVE* Becky talking about how Steve needs to **** about past season because he's here to play BB, not watch, and this is BB17, not BB1-16 <333333 recruits > superfans

[Macie Lightfoot]

SCREAMING at Vanessa trying to strike a deal with Becky and she just cuts her off and goes "DONE with deals and alliances, don't even want to hear those words!" :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

And then Vanessa thinks that she's the backdoor target because Becky wouldn't make a deal with her :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Austin and Vanessa want to keep noms the same if they win POV, which would only mean that Shelli is going home. Sixth Sense is taking a hit this week.

aaaaand then Becky is telling Shelli the plan for no reason :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

aaand John told Steve the plan :joker:

[Moosething]

Hopefully Jackie & her crew are safe

[reece(:]

YAS at Shelli/Steve noms.

[reece(:]

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[LukeB]

So who won HOH and what's the plan?

[JTM45]

So who won HOH and what's the plan?

Looks like Becky got it Luke!!!
Not quite sure of the exact plan but hopefully it'll involve Vanessa getting backdoored.:laugh:

[Lostie!]

Since I'm not really a feed viewer I was unsure about Becky winning because, from the little I've seen of her, she seems to have been playing both sides and I've no idea where her actual loyalties lie. As long as she keeps Jackie, Meg and James safe, I support her decisions. :hee:

[AarynGriesfan]

Win that PoV Shelli!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

So who won HOH and what's the plan?

Becky won HOH, she is nominating Steve and Shelli and planning to back door Vanessa.

She is sticking to the deal that Vaneesa came up with the other night saying if any of the 8 in the room (Beckky, Vanessa, Twins, Austin, Jackie. James and Meg) win HOH they nominate 2 of John, Steve and Shelli. But she is planning to backdoor Vanessa now because pretty much her, Jackie, Meg, James and John are done with Vanessas bull****.

Since I'm not really a feed viewer I was unsure about Becky winning because, from the little I've seen of her, she seems to have been playing both sides and I've no idea where her actual loyalties lie. As long as she keeps Jackie, Meg and James safe, I support her decisions. :hee:

Nope she was playing both sides but she deciced to go with James, Jackie and Meg group, but she also has John on the side who I think is her main ally.

[JTM45]

Since I'm not really a feed viewer I was unsure about Becky winning because, from the little I've seen of her, she seems to have been playing both sides and I've no idea where her actual loyalties lie. As long as she keeps Jackie, Meg and James safe, I support her decisions. :hee:

Same for me!
She seems to run back and tell the other side as soon as one side tells her anything.
She seems to be viewed as being on Jackie/James' side but with someone that flakey they're a huge target for manipulators and are usually very easily fooled.

[LukeB]

Becky won HOH, she is nominating Steve and Shelli and planning to back door Vanessa.

She is sticking to the deal that Vaneesa came up with the other night saying if any of the 8 in the room (Beckky, Vanessa, Twins, Austin, Jackie. James and Meg) win HOH they nominate 2 of John, Steve and Shelli. But she is planning to backdoor Vanessa now because pretty much her, Jackie, Meg, James and John are done with Vanessas bull****.

Slay :flutter:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Thats was last week, she picked a side, she wants to roll with James, Meg and Jackie and have John on the side.

The only people playing the middle seem to be John and Steve, maybe Shelli.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Slay :flutter:

Only downfall is if Vanessa, twins or Austin win POV they will keeps noms same

I wish she would just nominate Vanessa and Shelli in the first place

[LukeB]

Only downfall is if Vanessa, twins or Austin win POV they will keeps noms same

I wish she would just nominate Vanessa and Shelli in the first place

If Vanessa/twins/austin win pov, is Shelli going home?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I believe so yes, if it remains Shelli vs Steve then Meg, James, John and Jackie will vote Shelli out, Becky breaks the 4-4 tie if austin, van and twins vote Steve out. They also have a alliance with Steve so it might be 8-0 to evict Shelli is they decided to switch to that alliance and dump 6th sense.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Oh and btw according to twitter James was called to DR last night and had a leak saying something about Americas player?

[Lostie!]

Thats was last week, she picked a side, she wants to roll with James, Meg and Jackie and have John on the side.

:clap1:

Here's hoping for another good week then. :hee:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

:clap1:

Here's hoping for another good week then. :hee:

Well she all ready told Vanessa she is happy working with Meg, James and Jackie and Vanessa told this to Austin :joker:

Becky is screwed in the DE if James, Meg, Jackie or John dont win HOH

[JerseyWins]

I don't understand why Becky would actually tell Vanessa NO MORE DEALS. :joker: :joker: :joker: Kinda obvious Vanessa's the target then if she doesn't want to take a deal from her.

[mkbb]

I believe so yes, if it remains Shelli vs Steve then Meg, James, John and Jackie will vote Shelli out, Becky breaks the 4-4 tie if austin, van and twins vote Steve out. They also have a alliance with Steve so it might be 8-0 to evict Shelli is they decided to switch to that alliance and dump 6th sense.

Strategically in a 4-4 situation Becky would be better to vote out Steve and make a deal with Shelli. Steve despises Becky. Keeping someone who clearly dislikes you that much would be a foolish move on a personal game level.

[Headie]

Oh and btw according to twitter James was called to DR last night and had a leak saying something about Americas player?

He's #1 on Jokers but I doubt they'd make him America's player based off that :laugh:

[mkbb]

I don't understand why Becky would actually tell Vanessa NO MORE DEALS. :joker: :joker: :joker: Kinda obvious Vanessa's the target then if she doesn't want to take a deal from her.

Becky has screwed her own move, she has given Vanessa the ammunition she needed to spread enough paranoia and prevent half the house using the veto. I personally hope this all backfires on Becky. Will be glorious to watch.

[Headie]

Here's the James America's Player thing:

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You can hear productions say "congratulations" :suspect:

[JerseyWins]

What the... so basically confirmed. :joker:

When did this happen?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

It might have to do with the poll from last week where cbs ask which houseguest we want to take to final 2.

This week its which houseguest would you like to be stuck on a desert with?

Only thing with that poll is that they excluded Julia so not fair if it was to vote for a america player if not all cast is on the poll, plus can they do that without saying what we was voting for?

I can see it being a team america final 2 because John was called in after James and he was in the DR for a while. Based of social sites I can see James and John getting the most votes.

[Wizard.]

I hope Becky goes through with the plan of backdooring Vanessa <3

[Nick.]

Becky nominated Shelli & Steve.

[JTM45]

Becky nominated Shelli & Steve.

Great start and a good indication that she'll aqctually stick to her word this week!:thumbs:
Now we've just gotta' hope the right person wins the POV and it gets used to nominate Vanessa and her depressing face. It would be amazing if she was totally clueless about it and it came as a complete surprise!!!!:laugh:

[Nick.]

Great start and a good indication that she'll aqctually stick to her word this week!:thumbs:
Now we've just gotta' hope the right person wins the POV and it gets used to nominate Vanessa and her depressing face. It would be amazing if she was totally clueless about it and it came as a complete surprise!!!!:laugh:

Vanessa knows Becky's planning to backdoor her, (Pretty sure Becky told Shelli), Vanessa's hoping to win the veto and save Shelli (Assuming she's even picked).

[Macie Lightfoot]

Becky told Shelli but I don't think Shelli told Vanessa. Vanessa's just convinced because Becky shut down her attempt to make a deal (<3)

[JTM45]

Vanessa knows Becky's planning to backdoor her, (Pretty sure Becky told Shelli), Vanessa's hoping to win the veto and save Shelli (Assuming she's even picked).

Vanessa MUST be backdoored this week!!!!!:shrug:
Last weekShelli's eviction was hijacked which pretty much wasted James' HOH week for him so if Vanessa manages to ruin another HOH week for the James/Becky/Jackie side of the house it'll be beyond a joke!!!

I haven't been watching the livefeeds so i'm not up on the current positions/alliegances of each housemate.
If Vanessa does manage to win the Veto and get Shelli off the block surely she'll lose a lot of support. Becky would have to put one of the twins up in Shelli's place which would lose Vanessa the support of the other twin and Austin at least!
I'm guessing that Vanessa's just hanging onto the fact that if Shelli's still in the house she'll always be the bigger target. That being said though, if Vanessa does save Shelli and screw everything up i think she's pretty much making herself the biggest target (if she isn't already anyway!).
With it being a double next week it would be perfect if Vanessa (1st choice) or if not then Shelli goes first and then Jackie wins (or James) wins the HOH and targets the remaining one.

Surely by now you'd think that the slightly smarter twin would be strongly considering changing sides along with possibly a few others too!
How the Hell Vanessa and Shelli are keeping these people on-side is a total mystery to me:conf:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

James, Meg and Jackie are considering voting Shelli out before Vanessa now

Ugh I hope Becky or Shelli win POV now

[JerseyWins]

^ Ugh... I wouldn't mind seeing Shelli go but I feel like Vanessa will be so protected by Freaks & Geeks that it might be hard to take her out after this week.

Also Vanessa just made some rule for cleaning dishes. Not really the best time for her to be making rules for the house. :joker:

They're playing some 'ask 20 questions to guess a famous person' game. Meh.

[LemonJam]

ok I haven't watched the show since Audreys eviction, is it worth catching up on?

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think it's actually gotten better (as hard as that might be to believe) so yes!

[Macie Lightfoot]

John talked to Steve and let him know how things are and Steve is just so painful to watch and annoying and just not a functioning human being my god. He's ready to kill himself now since his two biggest allies hate each other. Like, he's picking his toe hairs and talking to himself and might be crying?

[Macie Lightfoot]

In typical Steve fashion he just decided that he's throwing the POV comp :rolleyes: he really belonged in BB16, he literally told John that he's afraid to make a move and lose (like how most superfans tend to feel)

[Calderyon]

Surely you should always try to win POV, when you are nominated?

I don´t understand Steve´s thinking here. Why is he so afraid to lose Vanessa?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Surely you should always try to win POV, when you are nominated?

I don´t understand Steve´s thinking here. Why is he so afraid to lose Vanessa?

I think he wants to throw it so Shelli wins/gets taking down, Becky then backdoors Vanessa and he can tell Vanessa he had no part in it. I think anyway.

Sounded like he might be dumping Vanessa, he said if he could not protect her this week he wanted to form a alliance with him, John, Shelli and Becky? He also just said he might tell John about Freeks and Geeks and his final 2 with Vanessa.

[Headie]

Becky, Shelli, Steve, Vanessa, Austin, and Meg are playing in the Veto.

Steve is throwing it and Meg has no shot in hell, so it’s Becky/Shelli vs. Vanessa/Austin.

[Calderyon]

If it´s a counting comp, Shelli or Vanessa have it.

[AarynGriesfan]

With Vanessa as the backdoor target this week the veto comp is almost certainly going to be hold em or fold em. If Vanessa wins which seems likely in that type of comp then hopefully she uses the veto on Shelli and Austin goes home this week.

[JTM45]

I don't even understand what Steve is doing in the house. He's one of the most pointless houseguests ever!

[Calderyon]

With Vanessa as the backdoor target this week the veto comp is almost certainly going to be hold em or fold em. If Vanessa wins which seems likely in that type of comp then hopefully she uses the veto on Shelli and Austin goes home this week.

If she will, i don´t think she will use it. If she did, either Liz or Julia would most likely be the replacement nominee.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Feeds back, it was a timed comp like the comic one last year.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa definitely lost, Becky and Steve seem to be in pretty good moods?

[Macie Lightfoot]

James and Becky are happy, saying that it couldn't have gone any better and Steve wants Vanessa out. Steve won maybe?

[reece(:]

NOT Steve

[Moosething]

The comics comp

[Macie Lightfoot]

One of the twins just asked Steve if he felt like he did well when he was done :o

[Headie]

So who won? Meg, Steve or Becky?

http://38.media.tumblr.com/571af6415f1fedb6a8e8ae157613c8e4/tumblr_inline_nssgthtbds1qdtizw_500.gif

[Calderyon]

^ Steve won.

[Calderyon]

Vanessa is definitely gone then? Surely Steve will use it and she will be nominated as a replacement? Anything else happening would be just... dumb.

[JTM45]

I thought Steve had decided he was gonna' throw the comp ?
So he's surely going to use it on himself and hopefully they'll put Vanessa up in his place and she'll go home..........hopefully!

Looks like we posted at the same time Calderyon!:laugh:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Nothing's a done deal yet, it's going to be a crazy week.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also, MEG came in second.

[JTM45]

My guess is we're gonna' see Vanessa scrambling like a crazy thing until the Veto ceremony, trying to save her self. Hope she fails!!!

[Calderyon]

It won´t matter. She has lied too much at this point. Whatever she is offering, they are not buying. She is done.

She may come back to the game through the jury member competition though.

[Calderyon]

Meg apparently beat Vanessa´s time.

And finished second in the comp. Didn´t expect that.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I both think and hope that Vanessa will be evicted this week but she's certainly not done.

[Headie]

Perched for a Shelli vs Vanessa eviction :flutter:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

From their talk James, Meg and Jackie seem back on board to get Vanessa out this week again. :fc:

[Ross.]

I love the turnaround and now the other side is controlling the game :flutter:

[JTM45]

Recent-ish (around 2 hrs old) house chat;

Meg: We got to get rid of Shelli after Vanessa.
Jackie: For sure. We can't wait too long on that.

Let's hope Jackie wins Thursday's HOH then and we can get rid of Vanessa AND Shelli during the same episode!!! :laugh:

Hopefully James will win the next but one HOH and they can start chipping away at the Twins/Austin trio!
Oh how quickly those tables have turned.:thumbs:

I also heard that in the 'Comic Character' Veto comp Vanessa's Character was 'The Mad Hatter'!!! Perfectly chosen if it's true.:joker:

[AarynGriesfan]

Well Steve winning pov was not the ideal situation but as long as Vanessa goes it's fine.

[JerseyWins]

Becky told Vanessa she's not going up... gonna be a blindside. :joker: Another good POV meeting / aftermath. :clap1:

Also, it was funny the way James was explaining to Jackie & Meg the way Vanessa interrogated him. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

My only worry for this week is that James really is America's player and he has to campaign/vote for Vanessa to stay. :worry:

Shelli going wouldn't be the worst BUT I wouldn't like that for John & Becky's games.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Lol Vanessa was paranoid she was going up and then she went and talked to Becky and now she is convinced John is the replacement nominee LMFAO

Vanessa is being blindsided on Monday :lovedup:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

My only worry for this week is that James really is America's player and he has to campaign/vote for Vanessa to stay. :worry:

Shelli going wouldn't be the worst BUT I wouldn't like that for John & Becky's games.

I think Steve might vote her out as well, he said to himself last night he picks john when deciding who to go with (Vanessa or John).

But even if he does, I cant see there being a Americas Player; again they would have said we was voting for one, and Julia was not in the poll so not fair on her.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Lol Jackie "Vanessa got what she wanted, she made jury, she got Austin to jury and this week she is keeping Shelli in the game" :laugh:

[Macie Lightfoot]

omg Becky wants to expose Vanessa for being involved in getting Shelli nominated during the POV Ceremony :joker::joker::joker: I am all aboard the Becky Express <3

[jennyjuniper]

I'm all for superfans being housemates, as usually they throw themselves into the game heart and soul, but even if Steve is a superfan, he is one of the most boring pointless housemates ever.

[Braden]

Becky :flutter:

[Slevin]

i dont like Steve but this was the one time i was rooting for him to win a comp cause it now means that manic bitch Vanessa is going up. gonna be a crazy week after POV ceremony Monday afternoon. hopefully Trap Jaw Shelli goes 2nd in the double.

[AarynGriesfan]

I can't believe I am starting to like Becky but thanks to her this week will be glorius.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Here for Shelli to win HOH in DE and get James or Jackie out :fc:

[reece(:]

Here for Shelli to win HOH in DE and get James or Jackie out :fc:
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[JerseyWins]

Lol Jackie "Vanessa got what she wanted, she made jury, she got Austin to jury and this week she is keeping Shelli in the game" :laugh:
:laugh3:

[JerseyWins]

The game's gonna be so much more interesting now if/when Vanessa goes. Austin/Liz/Julia/possibly Shelli vs. (/kinda with) James/Jackie/Meg/(Becky) vs. Becky/John/Steve/possibly Shelli

[DrunkerThanMoses]

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Id rather have a season where the power flips back between alliances. Its not really entertaining then.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

John planning to nominate twins and backdoor Austin if he wins DE HoH

[Wizard.]

Vanessa may or will be evicted this week but I bet she's back in Jury Buyback

[JerseyWins]

John planning to nominate twins and backdoor Austin if he wins DE HoH
Johnny Mac nooooooooo

[LukeB]

Is Vanessa still a target?

[Lostie!]

John planning to nominate twins and backdoor Austin if he wins DE HoH

Yes John :clap1:

[JTM45]

Is Vanessa still a target?

At the moment i think, yeah!

When do they have the Veto Ceremony (Monday ?) ?

They really don't have enough episodes with the US and Canadian versions of BB!!!
By the time the episodes finally air most of us have gotten bored with the wait and looked for spoilers online!
The way the show's gone these days so little happens we're basically just waiting for the HOH and Veto comp results and ceremonies and the evictions (which have themselves become really boring and pre-agreed on).

They should penalize anyone who blatantly throws a comp too. It happens with piss-taking regularity these days!

[JerseyWins]

Wtf.... James just said if Shelli wins DE HOH he wants to go out before Meg/Jackie/Becky because he has a better shot at winning the return comp.......... Pulling a Lawon? :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Ha and Becky just referred to it as "don't pull a Lawon" as well :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa plotting to flip ANOTHER vote... before the replacement is even put up. Unfortunately this mindset of hers is why she's going up/home. :joker:

I wish there were more people on BB not afraid to flip votes or vote the other way though. Just not as crazy people as Vanessa.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Vanessa all ready trying to get the votes to get John out over Shelli... this is going to be glorious. Shame I am going out with friends tonight, I really want to see what happens post veto ceremony lol

[JTM45]

Were they told in the house that it's a Double Evo this week or have they just come to the conclusion that it's due ?
There's probably some facts and figures known to
BB Superfans that dictate that this week is (in BB History!) the usual or latest week that the first double is held on.....maybe:shrug:

I kinda' miss those Temptation things they sometimes used to randomly throw out there to the HOH (i think?) in return for them changing their noms or something :conf:
As you can no doubt tell, i have a dreadful memory on certain things.............was it called ''Pandora's Box'' maybe or was that just a nickname people gave it ?
It used to work out awesome sometimes but other times i think they blatantly used it to save (or try to save...) a production favorite when they were in a real tight spot and a cert to be evicted!

Not sure but i think maybe they stopped doing it in the 'Season of The Heinous Houseguests' (Season 15). Don't know why though ? Maybe people weren't making the choices that production wanted or something. Who knows :shrug:

So what exactly was the Pandora's Box thing all about ? Did it change in how it worked every time or were there basic set rules or a set pattern to how it went ?
I'm curious now that i started thinking about it.:conf:

[Nick.]

Steve saved himself and Becky put Vanessa up as a replacement. Shelli VS Vanessa.

[JerseyWins]

Lol Vanessa just said "go nuts on her? I'd never do that. I'm cool, calm, collected" :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Sometimes I wish I wasn't so smart" --Vanessa

[Calderyon]

So it happened.

Vanessa, you did play very hard and all that, but in doing that you lied too much, made and broke too many promises etc. and in the process pissed too many people.

Adding to that, you´re just too emotional and paranoid for this game. I liked you and still like you kind of, but i don´t know... you should have been more calmer and collected, but instead of that you just went crazy.

Have fun in the jury.

[JerseyWins]

Lmaoooooooo Becky just walked away from Vanessa a few minutes into a conversation. :laugh3: She doesn't wanna hear it.

[JTM45]

Fantastic!!!!!!:dance:
So glad it actually happened without any changing of minds or anything.

If Shelli even expected her 'man' to just stand aside for her to win i can't see her not fighting Vanessa for this one! With the way that most of the house seems to feel about Vanessa i'd be very surprised if she stays.
Shelli following her through the door in the second eviction would be perfection!!!!!:laugh:

Once that pair of banshees are outta' the way they can start getting rid of Judith/Austin and the Twins next!:thumbs:

How ridiculous is it that the Veto Ceremony has just happened and we won't actually get to see it 'til bloody Wednesday! We'll know every little detail of what happened and the fallout from the whole thing too by the time we see it!

I wish they aired it like UK BB where there's an episode on every night where we get to see the previous day's highlight's, still relatively hot off the press and not 5 day old stale drama!:bored:

[Macie Lightfoot]

alolllllllllll and Vanessa is trying to blow Becky's game up to ADC and Jackie is all "I know I know she told me :****:" :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

*Vanessa leaves the room*

James: The Generals...
Jackie: :joker:
Meg: :joker:

<33333

[JTM45]

alolllllllllll and Vanessa is trying to blow Becky's game up to ADC and Jackie is all "I know I know she told me :****:" :joker:

Sounds like the realization is setting in and the elevated mental breakdown has started! She'll be climbing the walls by Thursday!!!:laugh:

You can bet she's gonna' try every possible angle, lie, deception, manipulation and finally begging tactic known to mankind over the next few days!

Are the Twins and Austin still tight with her or have even they realized it's time to start distancing themselves from her ?

I just hope that there's no way that anyone's gonna' buy what she's selling this week and she somehow manages to scrape the numbers together!!! I really would be amazed (and gutted!) if she pulls that one off.

[Donovan.]

Going back to watch Becky shut down Vanessa's deal was definitely worth it.

"So I was wondering if you wanted to make a de..."
"No, I hate that word! I never wanna hear 'deal' or 'alliance' again. I'm like organic and that stuff's too complicated for me. I'm just Basic Becky"

[JTM45]

Going back to watch Becky shut down Vanessa's deal was definitely worth it.

"So I was wondering if you wanted to make a de..."
"No, I hate that word! I never wanna hear 'deal' or 'alliance' again. I'm like organic and that stuff's too complicated for me. I'm just Basic Becky"

Yeah, that was hilarious!!!:laugh:

I had to laugh at that clip of Vanessa slagging off Becky to the camera for being a crap gameplayer with the "doesn't she realize she's on Big Brother ?" jibe.
Well now Vanessa.............Becky is the HOH and she was, at that point, planning on backdooring you, which she did rather successfully today! Hhmmmmm.......... maybe it's you Vanessa who needs to reconsider your game!

Just because she shut you down it doesn't mean she isn't talking to others you silly, egomaniacal lunatic!!!!:facepalm:

[reece(:]

Vanessa's crash and burn :love:

[JerseyWins]

Going back a couple minutes on the feeds and OMG :omgno:... Vanessa just told Austin & Liz that Becky should just say this was a game move rather than trying to come up with a bs reason for why she did it.

:laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:

She doesn't even realize that's all she has done all game. And she even said Becky's hypocritical in that same breath.

[JerseyWins]

I just hope Vanessa admits immediately after this that she was just playing the game and doesn't actually believe all the stuff she says. Hopefully she's not this self unaware.

But that's highly doubtful.

[Raph]

This has been an exciting week again

[Macie Lightfoot]

Say what you want about Audrey but she was completely in on the joke both in the DR and in everything post-show.

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa: I'm not someone to freak out or make a big scene :joker:

[Nick.]

Shelli's upset as James is wearing one of Clay's shirts.

[Mystic Mock]

Vanessa's been a good contestant, but my god she's not helping herself is she?:joker:

I want Austin or one of the Twins to go next, they do nothing, say nothing of interest, and they're unlikeable.

[Mystic Mock]

Vanessa's been a good contestant, but my god she's not helping herself is she?:joker:

I want Austin or one of the Twins to go next, they do nothing, say nothing of interest, and they're unlikeable.

[Macie Lightfoot]

alol I turn on After Dark and see Vanessa crying about how Becky's such a horrible person for doing this to her :joker: this is such a satisfying end to the Vanessa thing.

[Macie Lightfoot]

While Vanessa is crying about Steve and Julia being fake mother****ers, Becky is vowing to never speak to Vanessa again without a witness :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I want Austin or one of the Twins to go next, they do nothing, say nothing of interest, and they're unlikeable.

I know you've been content on hating the twins from the start but they're actually fun and funny. Someone useless like Steve should **** next

[Macie Lightfoot]

5YDiPkgji8s

[reece(:]

Perched for Becky's harsh words airing.

[reece(:]

Nawt the pissed off jury member threat.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm just glad we could all see Becky SLAM THE DOOR in Vanessa's face even though they were outside and at least twenty feet away <3

[reece(:]

Lmao Becky leaving Vanny a sobbing wreck.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Vanessa going into full Audrey mode :laugh:

Pity party for one

I have no sympathy really, she did the same to Jason 2 weeks ago and he handled it well

[JerseyWins]

Honestly Audrey was the more sane person between them... just the way worse gameplayer mainly.

Right now she's still crying (and then occasionally laughing) about Becky being a mean person and no one caring about her and so on.

[JerseyWins]

Shelli (to Vanessa): I think one of her reasons was the Austin thing and that you're turning on people.

Vanessa: I'M turning on people?! *maniacal laugh* That is so far from the truth blah blah blah.

[Macie Lightfoot]

http://i.imgur.com/tCAVxMn.jpg

[jennyjuniper]

Going back to watch Becky shut down Vanessa's deal was definitely worth it.

"So I was wondering if you wanted to make a de..."
"No, I hate that word! I never wanna hear 'deal' or 'alliance' again. I'm like organic and that stuff's too complicated for me. I'm just Basic Becky"

The best bit for me was when Vanessa said (with a straight face) 'I give you my word', after what she did to Jason after promising to put Austin up, it's hardly suprising that no-one believes a word she says anymore.

Hope the twins are out soon, because the way they draw out their words is soooo annoying, apart from the fact that they are boring too.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

http://i.imgur.com/tCAVxMn.jpg

:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Why are Vanessa's allies not comforting her more? They've all kind of abandoned ship for the most part.

[JerseyWins]

Wait wtf... James/Jackie/Meg are very seriously talking about keeping Vanessa.

[JerseyWins]

Well I was just gonna shut off the feeds and then I heard that. Not sure how this will end but I'll find out what's going on tomorrow. This is gonna be ridiculous if Vanessa does stay. James/Jackie/Meg actually seem extremely behind this all of a sudden.

They're kinda screwing their own long term games if they do this. But I'm mostly concerned for Becky & John in the double eviction this week.

[Calderyon]

Wth. Now Vanessa is staying and Shelli is going?

What happened? DR?

[Calderyon]

If they do this, it would be a very stupid move. They are basically leaving an alliance intact and pissing off Becky. (Who will probably be gone in the DE though, but still)

Does this confirm that James has been selected as the America´s player? He is the one who is pushing this hard.

[Calderyon]

James, Meg and Jackie seem to be locked on keeping Vanessa and getting rid of Shelli. And in the process pissing of John and Becky.

Hoping Vanessa wins HoH on Thursday and puts two of them up, just to show them how wrong they were on keeping her.

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh my god there is no America's Player stop

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Its not a bad move really for the Goblins because Shelli is after them, only downfall is they are keeping Vanessa in with her lap dogs the idiot twins and austwat. Hopefully they will discuss with Becky and she can switch them back.

All they need to do is win HOH and get Shelli out themselves. All they are doing is pushing Steve back to Austwins and Vanessa and John to that side. If Becky goes in double then they are totally ****ed.

[JerseyWins]

Its not a bad move really for the Goblins because Shelli is after them, only downfall is they are keeping Vanessa in with her lap dogs the idiot twins and austwat. Hopefully they will discuss with Becky and she can switch them back.

All they need to do is win HOH and get Shelli out themselves. All they are doing is pushing Steve back to Austwins and Vanessa and John to that side. If Becky goes in double then they are totally ****ed.
Exactly that's why it is a bad move for those 3. It's only a good move for them for the double eviction, and even that's a maybe. In the long run it's a horrible move for them.

I can't believe they're not only considering this but seem to have almost already decided it last night. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa's best bet is to stay in that bedroom all week. She won't annoy them that way. :joker:

[Ross.]

Vanessa's best bet is to stay in that bedroom all week. She won't annoy them that way. :joker:

:joker:

[Calderyon]

oh my god there is no America's Player stop

Good to hear.

[Mystic Mock]

It's a stupid move for their games if Vanessa stays, however as a viewer it's better TV if Vanessa stays than if lone ranger Shelli stays.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Meg and James talked earlier about what a floater Becky is and now Vanessa completely threw under the bus to James about the Generals and how she thinks he's sexist and this and that.

This is entirely because of James. He was wanting to flip before any of this stuff, was able to convince Jackie and Meg. Austin and the twins were already set to let Vanessa get evicted until James came to Austin about the possibility of keeping Vanessa. I really hope that the episodes don't give Vanessa credit because it had NOTHING to do with her.

And even then, this isn't even about keeping Vanessa but getting rid of Shelli instead, which I don't think is necessarily a terrible move for James himself since he's well aware that Shelli is still gunning for him. Shelli's also a prime candidate to float her way through now so I wouldn't be terribly upset to see her go. I'd still love to see Vanessa go because this would've been the perfect end to her arc, but oh well. Shelli's general sense of entitlement screwed her over at the end of the day. She's been nominated twice now but never actually thought that she was going to get evicted. She never considered the possibility of everyone keeping Clay over her, and she certainly never considered the possibility of everyone keeping Vanessa. #shirtgate also didn't help and just gave James more of a concrete reason to go after her.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa has only told ONE LIE so far in this game, and it was only to protect Becky, the person who broke her word to her!!! I'm seriously not sure if I can handle more Vanessa after this week.

Anyway, Steve also apparently told Vanessa that he can't keep her because he/Shelli/John are on the outside of ~the eight~ so he can't afford to get rid of Shelli. So yeah, Steve's a ****ing idiot and Vanessa's dragging him and Becky to James/Austin. Becky or Steve is for sure going Thursday at this point.

[Mystic Mock]

What's Steve playing at?:joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I *REALLY* hope the show doesn't try to spin this as the best move since Dan's Funeral (which is also extremely overrated and mainly a ploy for the cameras like everything Dan does (Nomination Roulette still makes no sense) but that's for another day ;)) because Vanessa was seriously in her coffin ready to be put underground. She just got lucky.

[Mystic Mock]

Luck or Vanessa managed to make it look indirect by keeping away from James and the group so that Shelli would be the only one aggravating them all week so they'd be more inclined to vote Shelli out.

[JTM45]

Totally agree about the Dan's Funeral BS Macie!!!
I couldn't believe that anyone was taken in by it. It was the most blatant piece of production managed favorite saving crap i've ever witnessed on any BB.:facepalm:

[reece(:]

Hopefully things will change by thursday.

[JerseyWins]

Omg I can't believe Vanessa is actually staying... and she's acting as annoying as ever.

[JTM45]

So how's Shelli reacting to the news that she's going home or haven't they told her ?
It would be nice to see someone being evicted who wasn't fully aware in advance for a change!:shrug:

What's the bets that at some point on Friday there will be people holding their heads in their hands and repeatedly muttering "Whhhhyyyy.......oh wwwhhhhyyyyy did we decide to let Vanessa stay ??'':bored:

[Mystic Mock]

Do people really want Shelli to stay? As a viewer Vanessa brings a lot more to the series.

[JTM45]

Do people really want Shelli to stay? As a viewer Vanessa brings a lot more to the series.

I can't stand Shelli but i can't stand Vanessa even more and would rather she went first!
That miserable squidward expression and her constant bull**** is unbearable for me!:facepalm:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Luck or Vanessa managed to make it look indirect by keeping away from James and the group so that Shelli would be the only one aggravating them all week so they'd be more inclined to vote Shelli out.

Shelli's general sense of entitlement did it to herself tbh. She made the assumption that she was staying over Clay and now over Vanessa and just got really content and didn't do anything to help herself and made it clear that she felt safe. It also doesn't help that she got territorial and stole back Clay's sweatshirt that James was wearing. James hated her already but that type of pettiness just added more fuel to it all.

Totally agree about the Dan's Funeral BS Macie!!!
I couldn't believe that anyone was taken in by it. It was the most blatant piece of production managed favorite saving crap i've ever witnessed on any BB.:facepalm:

Like, Jenn would've flipped anyway if Dan just asked her like a normal person? However, Dan is not a normal person, so he had to put on his theatrics and hold a big house meeting to humiliate Danielle, and all that did was turn Jenn off to the point where she voted Ian (who she also hated because of some insensitive comment he made about 9/11) to win. But he was robbed of a bitter jury!!!!!

In other news, Vanessa claimed earlier that Steve made two fatal moves in this game, and the first was going against her!

[Mystic Mock]

Or Shelli does is cry though, there's no car crash entertainment to it either imo.

Vanessa is a trainwreck, and tbh I know that people like the ADC group on here but it's their own fault if they betray Becky's only move in the game as Becky goes, John joins the Sixth Sense, and evicts the remaining ADC group members.

[Mystic Mock]

Or Shelli does is cry though, there's no car crash entertainment to it either imo.

Vanessa is a trainwreck, and tbh I know that people like the ADC group on here but it's their own fault if they betray Becky's only move in the game as Becky goes, John joins the Sixth Sense, and evicts the remaining ADC group members.

[Mystic Mock]

All I put at the beginning, but for some reason my computer put down or.:mad:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Or Becky kinda overplayed her hand and is just doing what Ronnie did on a much, much lesser scale? And there's no way John joins the Sixth Sense. He's made it clear that he wants Vanessa out, especially with everything that happened last week, and he's closest to Becky. I don't even think he knows about the vote flip yet? He's completely on the outs, with Steve and ironically enough Becky.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Meanwhile, Becky's bragging about her HOH blog. "Stay tuned while I take out my first major target!" :joker::joker::joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf taking out Shelli's not exactly bad for her HOH credentials either.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean, it would be decent on her resume if she didn't spend the whole week planning for a Vanessa eviction and building Shelli up to be her side deal. Now she's probably the biggest target doing into the DE.

[Mystic Mock]

That's true Macie.:joker:

Becky's truly becoming a pleasure to watch isn't she lol?

[Mystic Mock]

That's true Macie.:joker:

Becky's truly becoming a pleasure to watch isn't she lol?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Oh definitely, I'm *SO* happy Becky is finally breaking through. She's been a UTR favorite of mine and I've been so intrigued by her motives this whole time. Her whole persona is amusing to me, like they found her on Tinder and her biggest accomplishment is managing an Abercrombie and Finch in Munich. She's casting gold <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

After putting Liz in her place,

http://i.imgur.com/WgzxFNN.gif

and then she started rapping Stay Schemin in the kitchen :joker: Julia is SO the better twin

[Macie Lightfoot]

Steve just told John that he doesn't know why he's agonizing over the vote because his doesn't matter since they have the Gremlins and Becky will break the tie.

If only he knew :joker:

[JTM45]

So is Shelli gonna' be sat there in her trackies on Thursday night looking smug because she thinks she's staying ?
The look on her face when Julie announces it might just make up for Vanessa staying!:laugh:

Only problem is though there's always someone who pretends to feel sorry for the person being surprise evicted and tells them (because they think it'll get them the person's Jury Vote!).

[Macie Lightfoot]

nah it's probably not going to be a blindside. Shelli is already suspicious and Vanessa went back to being her usual self so that won't go unnoticed. I bet everyone will know by tomorrow.

[jennyjuniper]

I don't like either Shelli or Vanessa. The only reason that it makes sense to evict Shelli instead is that she's the better player in comps. Vanessa is pretty useless.
I just wish someone would go after Austin and the twins.

[Macie Lightfoot]

alol everyone wants to get John out in the DE because they're all confused as to why he keeps getting called to/asked about in the DR when he's so irrelevant :joker::joker::joker: and Austin actually sounds serious about him and the twins aligning with ADC :o I'm sure it'll be broken within a week but still interesting

[Macie Lightfoot]

Steve is currently under the hammock while Vanessa is in it. That is all.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Shelli soooooo deserves to go. She has Jackie alone right now and instead of talking about the eviction she's jut brushing her hair and ignoring her. She's not even hiding that she's going to target ADC but she's still depending on their votes to stay. She's wasting her time sucking up to Austwins when they're done with her. That's what's causing the flip more than anything.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Last year's live feed thread had 111 pages. We're only halfway through the season and we're already at 108 pages. What a difference <3

[JerseyWins]

Well Shelli is talking to Jackie & Meg now but she's not even bothering to give them reassurance for the double eviction... even after Jackie & Meg brought it up clearly hoping for her to say she wouldn't put them up. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

I'm already picturing Johnny Mac going out in the DE and saying "she's good" about Vanessa to Julie Chen. Vanessa's gonna look really, really good from all this if it happens like that. It'll come full circle from the Clay pre-eviction fight and another person goes from Vanessa's shenanigans.

[JerseyWins]

Hopefully Becky finds out about the vote before Thursday and somehow flips it back. Not here for Becky & John to get screwed by this crazy person. </3

[Macie Lightfoot]

:rolleyes: if Vanessa gets all this credit for the vote flip. I'm already preparing myself for it though.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Meg tipped off Becky and Becky tipped off Shelli and told her that Meg and Jackie weren't happy with what she said about next week. Shelli is completely dumbfounded because she gave Meg and Jackie every opportunity to ask her who she would nominate next week!!!

lmfao Shelli is the worst campaigner on the planet, acting like Meg and Jackie should answer to her when she's powerless and about to go home.

[Braden]

I'm totally fine with Shelli going home this week. I'm not happy with the idea of Shelli going under the radar because her man-candy basically quit the game for her benefit.

Vanessa >>> Shelli

However, I'm quite sad that Becky's plan won't come to fruition. Like, the idea of Becky's HOH going perfectly her way is almost more appetising than Shelli leaving. And if Vanessa does stay I hope her target is John before Becky.

I'm happy with Vanessa staying around acting like a loose cannon, but it really would be unfair for her to be edited so favourably. I really hope she doesn't win as it's being made to look so blatant at this point.

[Braden]

+ it's quite annoying that Jackie is doing Becky like this, I quite like their relationship and don't want this to distance them (or for Jackie to lose Becky in the DE)

Have Jackie/James/Meg said who they'd target if they won DE HOH?

[JTM45]

Becky seems to find it ****ing IMPOSSIBLE to just keep something that she's been told (usually something that's REALLY important too!!!) to herself............and...like...errrrr, not tell ANYONE ELSE at all about it!!!!!:ninja2:

She does it EVERY single time too as far as i can recollect! It's almost like she's unaware that she does it too 'cause i can't remember her saying to herself like "****!!! Maybe i shouldn't have said that!?" or something.

She seems to have very poor judgement skills as far as people goes. Like who's trustable or a good/bad person.:shrug:
Perhaps it's down to that knock on the head she had. Actually, now i think about it, that could explain quite a lot of her 'behaviour'.....maybe ?:huh:

[Calderyon]

Becky won´t be disappointed for long as she is most likely the next one to go after Shelli.

If not her, then John.

[Braden]

#getjohnout

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I am all for Vanessa getting the idiot Goblins out now.

[Calderyon]

If they make a deal with Vanessa and expect her to keep it, they all deserve to leave.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I they make a deal with Vanessa and expect her to keep it, they all deserve to leave.

Yep Jackie, James and the other ones evictions cant come sooner

Short term getting Shelli out is good for them, long term it ****s them over. They are keeping Vanessa in with her bitches Austwat and idiot twins, and they piss Becky, Steve and John off.

Funny thing is Shelli said today if she won HOH she would put a goblin and Austin up :joker:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Only hope is Steve or John winning this DE Hoh

If not this season becomes bb16 all over again and everyone helping Trashnessa win :omgno:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean, ADC still want Vanessa out after this an Austin seemed adamant about working with ADC so that Austwins aren't the only threesome in the game so not really?

[AarynGriesfan]

If John and Shelli go in the DE I am so done lol. When's Celebrity bbuk scheduled for again?

[Macie Lightfoot]

okay cya then

[JerseyWins]

Liz & Julia are pissed that Becky is fake and thinks they're emotional and stuff. Liz says it's because she thinks they're bitchy. Then:

Liz: You don't want to see me be a bitch, bitch.
Julia: Bitch better have my money.
*bunch of face and hand movements*

:laugh3:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Shelli finally campaigning to Meg and Jackie and she STILL isn't exposing the Sixth Sense x_x

[Macie Lightfoot]

Jackie: You and James need to talk to each other but neither of you know how to approach the other.
Shelli: Well I was the one who was hurt and stabbed.

Shelli's done. If she was just willing to swallow her pride and not act like the victim and the heroine for once, she'd actually have a good chance of flipping it back.

[JerseyWins]

For some reason Shelli makes a more convincing argument for James/Jackie/Meg to keep her when she's talking to Becky than when she's talking to those 3...

To James/Jackie/Meg she pretty much just says she's the obvious better choice and she'd appreciate if they kept her. :facepalm:

[JerseyWins]

Keeping Vanessa right now is GREAT for Austwins game and good for Meg's game (mainly cause she's buried behind a bunch of targets and delaying the big attack). That's about it. It's good for Jackie & James for one week but then they're screwed. They need an HOH win from their side more than ever and I don't think they realize it. And Becky and/or John are screwed before then.

Hoping for a Johnny Mac HOH. Jackie, James or Meg wouldn't be bad either - probably better actually since John winning HOH would put a bigger target on him than he already is starting to get.

I think like 90% of the house is gonna be trying to throw this DE HOH. :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think it helps James more than anyone since he and Shelli are pretty much not even on speaking terms and she's for sure coming after him more than anything. And even so, ADC has given Shelli so many opportunities to cut them a deal or give them crucial info or ANYTHING and she hasn't. She isn't even trying to hide the fact that she's coming after them instead of her supposed allies who are evicting her, so at this point I can't even blame them for sending her home.

I don't know, either way there will be some repercussions for ADC, they'll be screwed either way.

[JerseyWins]

I think they could get something out of Shelli if Shelli feels like she knows she's going (so by later tonight). But I agree, Shelli is terrible at this... she's not making it easy for them to keep her at all. If anything she keeps giving them more reason to want to keep Vanessa when that is simply not the best decision in the long run.

[Macie Lightfoot]

They won't get anything out of Shelli because she's convinced that she's the victim in all of this. She's acting like ADC should be the ones groveling when it's her ass on the line. She ignored them all until yesterday and continued to suck up to Austwins even though they're done with her ass. It's as bad, if not worse than Da'Vonne's campaigning tbh. Her entire mindset is "well why didn't they ask me for a deal if they wanted one???" as if they owe her.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh with ADC they've shown themselves to be big hypocrites here (with the exception of James as he is trying to save himself tbf) but Jackie and Meg in particular went berserk at what Vanessa and Shelli did to Jason, yet look at what they're doing to Becky and John? Don't get me wrong it'll be great TV to watch, but overall it portrays them in a really bad light.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think a lot of the differences comes from the fact that they didn't make a Dark Moon alliance with Becky or John to specifically get Vanessa out and then go back on it for no legitimate reason. They owe John absolutely nothing and they know that Becky's been floating from group to group. I'm not saying it's a smart move on their part, but it's not in the same league of scumbag-ness as the Jason thing. ADC also had the decency to give Becky a heads up yesterday, which is a hell of a lot more consideration than Vanessa had for anyone.

I think there's also a huge difference between "Shelli is clearly still coming after us and isn't even trying to hide it" and "nobody was cheering loud enough for Clay when he won POV so now we have to get rid of Jason even though he's completely loyal to us and wants to go to the end with us."

[JTM45]

Yeah, it all comes down to whether one of ADC can win tomorrow's HOH. If they can then they'll be sitting pretty and hopefully they won't even hesitate to target Vanessa then!
Her and Shelli both have so many reasons to validate their evictions that it's not easy to decide which one is more dangerous to keep.
I think Shelli is the more straight out venomous one whereas Vanessa's just kinda' crazy in a demented and unpredictable way!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Vanessa all ready planting seeds with the twins to target the Goblins and Becky if they win HOH in the Double Eviction. No need to waste a HOH on Steve or John according to her.

Keep it up Vanessa, back stab the idiot goblins :worship:

[JTM45]

Who are the Goblins ?
JohnnyMac's doing a good job of looking totally non-threatening so far. He could easily end up final 4 if he carries on, while everyone else is too busy concentrating on the 'bigger threats'.:shrug:
I had to smile in tonight's episode when John said exactly what i've been thinking to Steve about him somehow thinking he's a big cog in the BB machine and that he's afraid he's gonna' be targetted for it!
I think John's words were something like "eeerrrrr........but you haven't won ANYTHING Steve!":laugh:
He'll probably take it to the next level of paranoia now though.....being as he won the Veto comp later on.:facepalm:
Why does he think Becky has got it in for him ?

I really hope the wrong person doesn't win the HOH tomorrow night and Jackie or James ends of getting evicted!!!! That would be horrendous!:bawling:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Goblins and ADC are James/Jackie/Meg. As for the Steve/Becky relationship, it's truly one of the weirdest and most unexplained things in franchise history. Like, she did nominate him week 2 but they barely interact and the whole thing is just random.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure about John's safety! 48 hours ago sure, but he's, like, for sure being nominated and possibly evicted unless he or Steve wins HOH tomorrow night. Everything's completely flipped on John, Steve, and Becky.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Goblins = James, Meg and Jackie

Julia just told Vanessa she might nominate James and Jackie if she won HOH lol

I despise Vanessa but love that she is all ready going back on her deal and targeting the 3 idiots

[Mystic Mock]

It's infuriating that nobody is targetting the Twins considering they're blood related so they'll never turn on one another.

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa all ready planting seeds with the twins to target the Goblins and Becky if they win HOH in the Double Eviction. No need to waste a HOH on Steve or John according to her.

Keep it up Vanessa, back stab the idiot goblins :worship:
If Vanessa really plans on doing (or influencing) this then screw it, I hope she does stay, wins HOH, Becky wins POV and one of the Goblins go home. Add it to another one of their mistakes.

[JerseyWins]

Becky pulling a strong campaign together on behalf of Shelli. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Too little too late though, Goblins have their minds made up.

I kinda prefer Vanessa to stay anyway when I think about it. Austin & twins become so much more protected. I'd be really worried about Johnny Mac & Becky to a lesser extent for the double, though. Other than that the only downside is that Vanessa is just exhausting for me now.

[Raph]

So does it look like Shelli will be going home tonight?

[reece(:]

Vanessa needs to go, I'm sf tired of the bitch.

[AarynGriesfan]

Julia to win HoH please!

[Headie]

Julia to win HoH please!

https://33.media.tumblr.com/9890f0728f2092d2ffe2216155efbdd8/tumblr_inline_ndm06qLePf1ql9kqj.gif

[MB.]

Julia to win HoH please!

http://i.imgur.com/rJTEJu5.gif

[JerseyWins]

Lol Vanessa coming up with another conspiracy that everyone's purposely saying wrong answers to screw her & the twins and Austin's in on it. :joker:

Austin's sick of the conspiracy theories. :joker:

Also the twins might be underrated game players. They agree with each person's side even when they are complete opposite opinions lol.

[Mystic Mock]

I think a lot of the differences comes from the fact that they didn't make a Dark Moon alliance with Becky or John to specifically get Vanessa out and then go back on it for no legitimate reason. They owe John absolutely nothing and they know that Becky's been floating from group to group. I'm not saying it's a smart move on their part, but it's not in the same league of scumbag-ness as the Jason thing. ADC also had the decency to give Becky a heads up yesterday, which is a hell of a lot more consideration than Vanessa had for anyone.

I think there's also a huge difference between "Shelli is clearly still coming after us and isn't even trying to hide it" and "nobody was cheering loud enough for Clay when he won POV so now we have to get rid of Jason even though he's completely loyal to us and wants to go to the end with us."

I think it's worse what ADC is doing as they're aligned with Becky, Vanessa was not aligned to that group.

[Macie Lightfoot]

They were never aligned with Becky though. Vanessa specifically formed Dark Moon with James, Jackie, and Meg, and then went back on it three days later without a heads up or anything.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Anyway, I have no clue how tonight's going to happen because they have a LOT to show and it's a double. They also filmed a family segment for Steve but I'm really hoping they save it until next week. This season's been fantastic and so many things have happened (which is what's making the feeds and the season easily the best since 11), but it sucks for the editors. The main objective of the past two episodes was to bury Vanessa in the edit so the audience could understand her fall from power, and now she got incredibly lucky and is staying. I can't imagine how confused the casuals are going to be after tonight.

[JerseyWins]

NO ONE sees that Steve is working with Freaks & Geeks. This move should've kinda made it obvious.

Seems like this is now going into a side vs side war. James/Meg/Becky/John vs. Vanessa/Austin/Liz/Julia/Steve, with John & Steve working together (and Steve seems to not really be viewed with that group).

[Macie Lightfoot]

John explained it all to Becky, he wanted Vanessa to get backdoored but Steve said no because he wants a comp threat out, so John didn't use POV since it would've resulted in a James or Becky backdoor.

[JerseyWins]

Apparently Vanessa tried to make some kind of deal with Meg & James for her vote to keep Meg.

This girl and her deals. :laugh3:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Liz won HoH.

****.

[JerseyWins]

Eh, I like Liz but I would've hoped for someone on the other side to win this week. Vanessa is just gonna sneak by another week now. *sigh*

[JerseyWins]

Becky & John most likely going up, pretty much decided I think. Becky's the first target, James is a potential backdoor. Hoping for a Becky POV win - but then I'm worried about Johnny Mac's safety even though it seems like he'd definitely be safe no matter what this week. :worry: