Big Brother 17 Ratings Thread

[*mazedsalv**]

This week is beating last year's equivalent comfortably, right?

Yep it seems so. This week (2nd full week) of last year was basically under 1m for the whole week bar the Thursday (Aarons ejection) and 4in4out

[Jake.]

Excluding +1:

Love Island (9pm): 0.81m (3.9%)

Big Brother(10pm): 1.08m (6.6%)

[Oaker]

Glad to see it's doing much better than BB16 :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

Good to see a small climb and that should be around 1.2m incl +1. If it is, lets remember the 3rd Wednesday of last year got 974k (2 days before 4in4out).

[*mazedsalv**]

To compare, Week 3 comparisons:

BB16:
Monday- 877K
Tuesday- 1.00m
Wednesday- 974k

BB17:
Monday- ~1.1m
Tuesday- 1.1m
Wednesday- ~1.2m

[Rob!]

That's better. It deserves more though :clap2:

[billy123]

Excluding +1:

Big Brother: 0.90m (4.5%)

Love Island: 0.88m (4.3%)

[TomC]

Disappointing I guess.

[Jason.]

The manufactured drama made people turn off?

[Oaker]

The manufactured drama made people turn off?

BB14 wouldn't have rated well if that was the case :whistle:.

[*mazedsalv**]

+1 ratings in, i had to chase up an expert for them :joker:

So, Love Island V Big Brother rivalry continues.

Love Island-1.08m incl +1
Big Brother- 1.18m incl +1

Both got high +1 figures, LI got 200k, and BB got the highest +1 of the series with 280k.

[Greg!]

+1 ratings in, i had to chase up an expert for them :joker:

So, Love Island V Big Brother rivalry continues.

Love Island-1.08m incl +1
Big Brother- 1.18m incl +1

Both got high +1 figures, LI got 200k, and BB got the highest +1 of the series with 280k.

Slay I'm glad this series is doing quite well

[callumbb]

What are the ratings for last night?

[*mazedsalv**]

Excl +1 they were poor... just 960k.

Hopefully a large +1 to get it to 1.2m.

We are screwed on Monday against the England match! Because if it goes to ET an penalties, it will overrrun to when BB is on +1 too, I predict close to a series low! 450k ?? :shocked:

[Oaker]

what's the lowest watched episode ever?

I imagine it's one of BB13's Olympic clashes right?

[*mazedsalv**]

what's the lowest watched episode ever?

I imagine it's one of BB13's Olympic clashes right?

Last Highlight show of BB13 up against the Closing Ceremony which got ~400k-450k while the Olympics got around 23m :shocked:

It got 790k in officials, so it almost doubled.

[crazycolaist]

It was a decent night to go out last night you know guys :lol:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So still no plus 1 for Friday and no rating today again why are they so hard to get hold of this year?!

[Lord Gavin]

Excl +1 they were poor... just 960k.

Hopefully a large +1 to get it to 1.2m.

We are screwed on Monday against the England match! Because if it goes to ET an penalties, it will overrrun to when BB is on +1 too, I predict close to a series low! 450k ?? :shocked:
Channel 5 are sabotaging Big Brother. Unconfirmed reports say that they want to AXE it.

[Lord Gavin]

Big Brother got its worst rating of the series yesterday, only 0.76m.

[supertv247]

760k excluding plus 1 last night, so not terribly bad but yeah, the lowest so far.

[Lord Gavin]

760k excluding plus 1 last night, so not terribly bad but yeah, the lowest so far.
Imagine how low it will go on Monday. Channel 5 are sabotaging the show!

[supertv247]

Imagine how low it will go on Monday. Channel 5 are sabotaging the show!

Channel 5 didn't plan the football, I hardly see how it's avoidable.

[Lord Gavin]

Channel 5 didn't plan the football, I hardly see how it's avoidable.
They should move BB to 10pm to avoid footy and then delay their 10pm show to the following week

[supertv247]

They should move BB to 10pm to avoid footy and then delay their 10pm show to the following week

Football is scheduled to finish at 10:15, and even then will still run into overtime. It would hardly make any difference, plus the other show is quite big so they can't just mess around fans for that

[Lord Gavin]

Football is scheduled to finish at 10:15, and even then will still run into overtime. It would hardly make any difference, plus the other show is quite big so they can't just mess around fans for that
The actual game will be over by 9.50 if England win in normal time, which they most likely will

[supertv247]

The actual game will be over by 9.50 if England win in normal time, which they most likely will

Well then everyone who chose football over BB will have no problem watching it on +1

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Imagine how low it will go on Monday. Channel 5 are sabotaging the show!

Why would they spend so much on a new set and and studio plus another house when they are trying to sabotage their own show? lol

Who are these "unconfirmed reports" just your opinion I imagine.

[Rob!]

760k... :worry:

[Cal.]

What's the +1 rating?

[*mazedsalv**]

No +1 reported because they rarely do when it's on later.

I predict 1.02m incl +1 tonight and 490k tomorrow :(

Then 1.1m on Tuesday and 1.2m on Wednesday ??

[supertv247]

When BB clashed with 23 million viewers watching the Olympics it got 450k. I hardly think it's going to get that against tomorrow's football ��

[*mazedsalv**]

Officials supposed to come in tomorrow. Hope they actually appear on BARB!

[Rob!]

Officials supposed to come in tomorrow. Hope they actually appear on BARB!

Have all the sub 1m figures this week been against football?

[*mazedsalv**]

Have all the sub 1m figures this week been against football?

There has only been 2 sub 1m figures, both have been Saturday (last night and week before).

[Rob!]

There has only been 2 sub 1m figures, both have been Saturday (last night and week before).

I meant before plus one. It wasn't quite this low last week.

[supertv247]

So it happened again...

BBUK - 900k
Love Island - 970k

Both excluding +1 though, hopefully BB just inches it

[Kai Anders]

As BB is rating about 900K, does anyone know what It's Not Me It's You got? I'd imagine maybe 600K?

[Nicky91]

i think if Marco had stayed, the ratings would've gone way up :)

[*mazedsalv**]

Well BB got double anything else on C5 yesterday but still :(

Probably a big +1 but meh.

Tonight im not even going to bother! Lowest ever rating I reckon.

[Rob!]

It's doing really badly atm?

[Jamesy]

Tbh I've found all the forced drama the past few days off-putting, it's becoming another BB15 with constant shouting in each episode.

Will be interesting to see if C5 intervene if ratings continue to stay under 1m. Although it's not doing any worse than BB16 so hopefully they will leave it.

Will be interesting to see how low figures go tonight.

[supertv247]

Official figures are in for week 2:

Mon - 1.53m
Tue - 1.55m
Wed - 1.61m
Thu - 1.49m
Frid - 1.60m
Sat - 1.36m
Sun - 1.47m

Avg - 1.52

[supertv247]

The week 2 average for timebomb was 1.2m so this is up a huge 320k year on year

[*mazedsalv**]

Here are the officials, in brackets is what it got in overnights:

Monday 13th- 1.53m (1.1m)
Tuesday 14th- 1.55m (1.2m)
Wednesday 15th- 1.61m (1.25m)
Thursday 16th- 1.49m (1.1m)
Friday 17th- 1.60m (1.35m)
Saturday 18th- 1.36 excl +1 (810k)
Sunday 19th- 1.47m (1.09m)

Hmm, not great, Saturdays are actually doing very well and adding the most.

the average for those few days (even though that Sat is excluding +1) is 1.52m

So far, the series average after the first 13 days is 1.59m

Still on par with BB12, 13 and 15, and up 230k on last year, but with the latest lower ratings, I'm worrying it will fall under BB16

[supertv247]

It's good news that Saturday is consolidating the most, making up for the bad overnights. 550k is huge considering the overnight was 810k!!

[Will.]

Pretty much on par with BB15 which averaged 1.54M on week 2.

[supertv247]

Here are the officials, in brackets is what it got in overnights:

Monday 13th- 1.53m (1.1m)
Tuesday 14th- 1.55m (1.2m)
Wednesday 15th- 1.61m (1.25m)
Thursday 16th- 1.49m (1.1m)
Friday 17th- 1.60m (1.35m)
Saturday 18th- 1.36 excl +1 (810k)
Sunday 19th- 1.47m (1.09m)

Hmm, not great, Saturdays are actually doing very well and adding the most.

the average for those few days (even though that Sat is excluding +1) is 1.52m

So far, the series average after the first 13 days is 1.59m

Still on par with BB12, 13 and 15, and up 230k on last year, but with the latest lower ratings, I'm worrying it will fall under BB16

Saturday's 1.36m does include +1. It is 1.23m without.

[Mrmattybeck]

Not great is it but not surprising


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[*mazedsalv**]

Saturday's 1.36m does include +1. It is 1.23m without.

Are you sure because under C5 only I swore it was 1.36m. As there was no +1 rating reported as the +1 rating didn't make it to the Top 10.

[Mrmattybeck]

Here are the officials, in brackets is what it got in overnights:

Monday 13th- 1.53m (1.1m)
Tuesday 14th- 1.55m (1.2m)
Wednesday 15th- 1.61m (1.25m)
Thursday 16th- 1.49m (1.1m)
Friday 17th- 1.60m (1.35m)
Saturday 18th- 1.36 excl +1 (810k)
Sunday 19th- 1.47m (1.09m)

Hmm, not great, Saturdays are actually doing very well and adding the most.

the average for those few days (even though that Sat is excluding +1) is 1.52m

So far, the series average after the first 13 days is 1.59m

Still on par with BB12, 13 and 15, and up 230k on last year, but with the latest lower ratings, I'm worrying it will fall under BB16



Same salv I expect consolated numbers will be down next week


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[supertv247]

Are you sure because under C5 only I swore it was 1.36m. As there was no +1 rating reported as the +1 rating didn't make it to the Top 10.

Yeah on the Channel 5 top 30 bbuk got 1.23m on Saturday, and on the Channel 5 total top 30 it got 1.36
Which includes C5 & C5+1

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Its on par with BB12 which was broadcast half a decade ago! These officials are impressive.

BB has had a habit of figures dropping over the years and they are back up to where they were when it launched on Channel 5 and that launch had like a million more viewers on launch so its holding steady.

Its reliable, yes we would all like it to be hitting 2 million like BB14 was but its still doing rather well to maintain and pull back hundreds of thousands of viewers.

[Greg!]

Well BB got double anything else on C5 yesterday but still :(

Probably a big +1 but meh.

Tonight im not even going to bother! Lowest ever rating I reckon.

It will be low but I don't think the lowest ever. I'm going to guess 500k

[Greg!]

This series deserves much higher ratings than flop island. The only reason it has beaten bb a couple of times is because it's constantly promoted. Like yesterday I was watching ITV2 and there was big banner advert on the corner of the screen saying Love Island tonight at 9

[Rob!]

This series deserves much higher ratings than flop island. The only reason it has beaten bb a couple of times is because it's constantly promoted. Like yesterday I was watching ITV2 and there was big banner advert on the corner of the screen saying Love Island tonight at 9

Problem is, as Salv said - that 900k for last night was double anything else Channel 5 managed yesterday so it's not like the banners would be really reaching that many people.

[*mazedsalv**]

My prediction for next few...

Tonight- 490k
Tuesday- 1.1m
Wednesday- 1.2m

[Cal.]

Its on par with BB12 which was broadcast half a decade ago! These officials are impressive.

BB has had a habit of figures dropping over the years and they are back up to where they were when it launched on Channel 5 and that launch had like a million more viewers on launch so its holding steady.

Its reliable, yes we would all like it to be hitting 2 million like BB14 was but its still doing rather well to maintain and pull back hundreds of thousands of viewers.

The point about BB12 is kinda true. BB11 was seen as a success even though it dropped like 1.5 million from BB6 in 5 years so for BB17 to have not dropped anything from BB12 is quite impressive.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The point about BB12 is kinda true. BB11 was seen as a success even though it dropped like 1.5 million from BB6 in 5 years so for BB17 to have not dropped anything from BB12 is quite impressive.

Not only that BB12' 1st week's running average:

BB12


Launch: 2.77
Week 1: 1.7
week 2: 1.50

BB17:

Launch 1.86
Week :1 1.73
week 2: 1.65

If we compare it to previous years also it the highest since BB14:

BB16:

Launch: Launch: 2.09
Week 1: 1.59
Week 2: 1.28 (Week 2 is pretty much 400k up on last year)

BB15:

Launch: 2.43
Week 1: 1.66
Week 2: 1.60


BB13 imo would have been the most successful series had it not been up against the Olympics its first 2 weeks averaged over 2 million and BB14 was just like this series will play out I believe with the overnights and launch being disappointing but officials are adding a ton of numbers to the officials and for some reason this years Saturdays which are usually the lowest rated are rating higher its a weird old year lol.

[crazycolaist]

Im saying 650k-750k tonight.

[*mazedsalv**]

I'm saying 490k tonight.

[Jason.]

I'm saying 490k tonight.

You really are expecting the worst aren't you? :laugh:

[*mazedsalv**]

You really are expecting the worst aren't you? :laugh:

I am :joker:

[Raph]

636K

[supertv247]

I don't know why people think it'll be worse than when it clashed with the olympics! Twitter seemed pretty heavy on #BBUK as well, and the football was done by 10 when it was then on +1. I'm going to predict between 800k-1m

[Greg!]

920k including +1 according to digital spy. Lol

[*mazedsalv**]

England v Iceland: 11.00m (48.1%)
* match average: 15.28m (60.0%)
* peak: 16.91m (62.4%) at 21:45

EastEnders: 3.52m (14.5%)

Big Brother: 920k (3.5%) inc +1

That's really decent for it to hold that much! EE got its lowest ever rating. Fantastic for the match.

[TomC]

Is this first +1 to be below 1m?

[Will.]

Very good considering:

England v Iceland: 11.00m (48.1%)
* match average: 15.28m (60.0%)
* peak: 16.91m (62.4%) at 21:45

[*mazedsalv**]

Is this first +1 to be below 1m?

Previous 2 Saturdays were under 1m with +1, in fact last night was higher than the last 2 Saturdays.

[*mazedsalv**]

Very good considering:

England v Iceland: 11.00m (48.1%)
* match average: 15.28m (60.0%)
* peak: 16.91m (62.4%) at 21:45

Exactly, and as I said, Eastenders got the lowest ever rating, it's previous lowest was 3.9m and last night it got 3.5m.

[Will.]

Exactly, and as I said, Eastenders got the lowest ever rating, it's previous lowest was 3.9m and last night it got 3.5m.

Wow that's low for EastEnders.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

That's terrible for EastEnders :o

What did Love Island get?

[Will.]

That's terrible for EastEnders :o

What did Love Island get?

800K.

[*mazedsalv**]

LI aired at 10pm last night so didn't face the match.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Is that 800k with +1 btw?

[Will.]

Is that 800k with +1 btw?

No it's not, I doubt the +1 will be released. It's most likely very small due to it airing at 11PM (+1).

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So when people are posting these ratings for Love Island do you ever include +1 as we do with BB because chances are its matching it?

[Will.]

So when people are posting these ratings for Love Island do you ever include +1 as we do with BB because chances are its matching it?

I think we normally do. I don't think there are chances as BB is normally 100-250K ahead excluding +1.

LI has beaten BB twice I think.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Also people say how BB's figures have drastically dropped Love Island series 1 back in 2005 almost overtook BB6 at one point and 3.8 million people tuned in to watch the final of series 2, peaking at 4.4m, down from series 1 peak figure of 5.9 million.

Its currently averaging 1.27 up on last years 0.57 against BB's 1.65 up on last years 1.44

[Rob!]

Salv you old pessimist :fan:

[MB.]

In that case I'm predicting 15 million for tonight

[Mrmattybeck]

That's pretty good it's Gotta be said consistent as ever for ratings hit love island:)


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[*mazedsalv**]

Salv you old pessimist :fan:

I'm shocked it got 920k. Double what I was expecting!

[Jason.]

Not Salv expecting the worst with 49 viewers tho :fan:

[*mazedsalv**]

Not Salv expecting the worst with 49 viewers tho :fan:

Mate, always under predict so you're not disappointed :tongue:

[Kai Anders]

I've produced a ratings comparison table of all C5 series, BB12 through BB17.
On the graph you can see all of the first two week official ratings and compare with other series side by side.

Furthermore, green indicates the series equivalent episode is up on the previous.

Note however that these are all on different days and can inflict different ratings results (e.g. because particular rival shows were on a weekly basis such as a Wednesday that year)

Fridays are marked with (F)
Saturdays are marked with (S)

http://i.imgur.com/6tkRu5Y.png

As far as it stands BB17 (the current run) is smashing every rating equivalent from last year bar launch (based on episode number, rather than day of broadcast)

BB17 improved 12/13 episodes compared to BB16
BB17 improved 5/13 episodes compared to BB15
BB17 improved 1/13 episodes compared to BB14
BB17 improved 1/13 episodes compared to BB13
BB17 improved 6/13 episodes compared to BB12

All in all, and despite low broadcast ratings, the online retention for viewers for BB17 is particularly high considering it is holding its own well, unlike any other series before it, showing no significant drop unlike other series.

It beat the first week averages of both BB15 and BB16. While its second week beat BB12, BB15 and BB16.

In perspective, these ratings don't look all that bad. And tbh, I'd imagine if we can keep viewers locked onto the show, we'd see ratings around 1.6m-1.5m as a series average. On par with BB12, BB13 and BB15.

[Kai Anders]

EDIT - I missed one (S) Saturday out before anyone calls it.

[Jason.]

I still don't know how BB13's launch almost got 3m but then ever since, the launch ratings have dropped considerably - like BB14 launched with over half a million less.

[*mazedsalv**]

Don't you mean 12/13 higher than BB16? Every official has been up on last year bar launch. You put 7/13

[Oaker]

wow I always thought that BB14 was the highest rated C5 launch but even BB15 beat it

[Jason.]

BB15 launch did better because it came after the most successful civilian series on C5 - BB14 which pulled in some new viewers, hence the 1.9m so they probably tuned in for BB15's launch to see if it was as good (it wasn't hence the big drop in BB15's second launch). And the media attention and success of CBB13 earlier in the year probably made people more aware of BB in the summer too.

[Kai Anders]

Don't you mean 12/13 higher than BB16? Every official has been up on last year bar launch. You put 7/13

amended, thank you!

[Oaker]

BB15 launch did better because it came after the most successful civilian series on C5 - BB14 which pulled in some new viewers, hence the 1.9m so they probably tuned in for BB15's launch to see if it was as good (it wasn't hence the big drop in BB15's second launch). And the media attention and success of CBB13 earlier in the year probably made people more aware of BB in the summer too.

That makes sense.

I think they really shot themselves in the foot doing a 2 part launch for BB15, the only person who stood out on the first launch night was Pauline and everyone else felt (and looked) exactly the same. The second part actually had much more interesting people who weren't just business men/women in suits but by that point people had already given up.

[Kai Anders]

I genuinely feel like Power Trips first few weeks killed BB. Even BB13 was doing very well before a dramatic slip. At least the ratings were strong at the beginning of the series, whereas Powertrips ratings imo definitely reflected the poorer choice of housemates that we'd seen.

[Rob!]

This is getting ridiculous

Big Brother: 1.01m
Love Island: 1.04m

BB got 1.1m +1 but this is severely getting on my tits.

[Nicky91]

ratings will go way up after Friday, when Georgina is evicted, BB wants her out to improve the ratings, makes a lot of sense :)

[Rob!]

ratings will go way up after Friday, when Georgina is evicted, BB wants her out to improve the ratings, makes a lot of sense :)

What on earth are you on about?

[Babayaro.]

That won't happen

[Nicky91]

That won't happen

why not, every poll on every forum says Georgina will be evicted with above 75%

[armand.kay]

Welp wonder why they've gone down this week :/

[Babayaro.]

why not, every poll on every forum says Georgina will be evicted with above 75%

No, I mean the ratings wont go up purely because Georgina is evicted

[supertv247]

This is getting ridiculous

Big Brother: 1.01m
Love Island: 1.04m

BB got 1.1m +1 but this is severely getting on my tits.

Well, I expected BB to easily overtake love island with its +1 figure as I expected over 200k easily. Only 90k on +1 is quite bad. Friday got 40k on +1 which I'm sure is one of the worst +1 figures ever. I hope they don't start to slip, they are still holding up well, but they need a boost and to stay above love island.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Evicting a hated housemate doesn't affect ratings in a ositive way a perfect example of this is Jade in CBB5 from viewers peaking at 8 million then her leaving and million tuned out.

Its getting on my tits now this 1.01 every night because its adding a good 400/500k in officials if it could atleast keep getting 1.3/1.4 which isn't far off then then the a chance of a series average of 1.7/1.8 it just had to beat BB15/BB16 and would be even better if it beat BB12/BB13 the only reason its going to struggle to do that is down to all those other launches being higher and with all the competition this year its holding steady.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

This is getting ridiculous

Big Brother: 1.01m
Love Island: 1.04m

BB got 1.1m +1 but this is severely getting on my tits.

So what did Love Islands +1 add we cant compare the both and only post bb's +1 chances are love island may have beaten it.

[Rob!]

So what did Love Islands +1 add we cant compare the both and only post bb's +1 chances are love island may have beaten it.

I don't know, otherwise I would have posted it. Tbf apparently LI has only beaten BB once with +1 included but it's much of a muchness by this stage I think.

[Nicky91]

No, I mean the ratings wont go up purely because Georgina is evicted

because Georgina is really a target of nasty and vile comments by public/viewers :(

[Cal.]

Love Island is the new 'in thing' which is frustrating. It seems every teenager my age is watching it and every British celeb is promoting it.

[Jason.]

Love Island is the new 'in thing' which is frustrating. It seems every teenager my age is watching it and every British celeb is promoting it.

Slay

[*mazedsalv**]

With +1...

Big Brother- 1.14m
Love Island- 1.19m

Damn LI getting a series high!

2nd time LI has beaten BB with +1.

[*mazedsalv**]

Excluding +1:

Love Island (9pm): 0.96m (4.8%)
Big Brother (10pm): 1.21m (7.4%)

And this is why BB should have stayed at 10pm to avoid LI, it's obviously being hurt by it. That excl +1 is the highest excl +1 since first HL show.

[Nicky91]

and if the show will get boring and dull from losing all the interesting HM's, ratings will drop even further :joker: :laugh:

[*mazedsalv**]

and if the show will get boring and dull from losing all the interesting HM's, ratings will drop even further :joker: :laugh:
I disagree. As last night proved, being away from LI is the best for it. Ratings will be back down over this weekend due to Euro's and LI.

[*mazedsalv**]

With +1

Big Brother: 1.31m (8.0%)

Love Island: 1.08m (5.4%)

[Cal.]

Decent!

[Nicky91]

I disagree. As last night proved, being away from LI is the best for it. Ratings will be back down over this weekend due to Euro's and LI.

well i won't be watching anymore after Georgina is evicted, there is just no reason for me to watch then :)

[*mazedsalv**]

Highest rated since Marco's eviction which got 1.35m. Highest rated HL show since the first highlight show of the series.

[Mrmattybeck]

Georgina is a miserable bitch she can go


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[Nicky91]

Georgina is a miserable bitch she can go


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she's only miserable because she doesn't like some people in the house :)

[supertv247]

1.31m at 10pm, 230k ahead of love island... I bet if it had been on at 9 against it again, love island would've pipped it. When will they learn, it should be at 10pm every weeknight..

Funnily enough, I just noticed annihilation week is the week after love island ends. So they're smart enough to plan that but can't just move the show to 10pm just now? :laugh:

[*mazedsalv**]

1.31m at 10pm, 230k ahead of love island... I bet if it had been on at 9 against it again, love island would've pipped it. When will they learn, it should be at 10pm every weeknight..

Funnily enough, I just noticed annihilation week is the week after love island ends. So they're smart enough to plan that but can't just move the show to 10pm just now? :laugh:

Doesn't Annihilation week start the day LI finishes? So it clashes with the final of LI? It ends on the 11th when Annihilation starts. The Euro Finals will be the day before on the 10th

[crazycolaist]

It's good LI is really close to BB ratings, Keeps C5 on their feet :)

[Greg!]

slay! Hopefully this will be a regular rating when love island is over

[supertv247]

Doesn't Annihilation week start the day LI finishes? So it clashes with the final of LI? It ends on the 11th when Annihilation starts. The Euro Finals will be the day before on the 10th

I don't think Love island finishes on a Monday. I'm sure it's Friday the 8th (and I think even this is a week longer than initially planned), with annihilation week then starting on Monday the 11th

EDIT - just seen love island is confirmed to end on the 11th. That's a strange day but nevertheless, a good time for BB a to have a big week on!

[Will.]

Wow that's really good :clap1:

[Will.]

220K up on last year.

[Will.]

LI finishes on Monday 11th July with a 90 min special at 9PM.

Big Brother will also air at 9PM on the 11th July.

[Rob!]

220K up on last year.

That is surely excellent?

[Rob!]

LI finishes on Monday 11th July with a 90 min special at 9PM.

Big Brother will also air at 9PM on the 11th July.

Is that not the start of annihilation week? Surely they should move it if they want it to attract attention?
Love Island has been a pain this year. Thank god England got knocked out.

[Will.]

Is that not the start of annihilation week? Surely they should move it if they want it to attract attention?
Love Island has been a pain this year. Thank god England got knocked out.

Yeah Monday when BB special week start!

LI should do it's finale on Sunday.

[Will.]

That is surely excellent?

Yeah really good.

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah Monday when BB special week start!

LI should do it's finale on Sunday.

They wouldn't as that's the Euro 2016 final.

And no matter who plays, it gets huge ratings, Euro 2012 Italy Vs Spain was seen by over 13m.

World Cup 2014m Germany v Argentina was watched by 12m on BBC1 and 3m on ITV, so 15m combined and a peak of 21m.

[Will.]

They wouldn't as that's the Euro 2016 final.

And no matter who plays, it gets huge ratings, Euro 2012 Italy Vs Spain was seen by over 13m.

World Cup 2014m Germany v Argentina was watched by 12m on BBC1 and 3m on ITV, so 15m combined and a peak of 21m.

Oh ok lol, didn't realise that.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

and if the show will get boring and dull from losing all the interesting HM's, ratings will drop even further :joker: :laugh:

Why is that funny?

A show you wouldn't want to be cancelled getting low ratings?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I disagree. As last night proved, being away from LI is the best for it. Ratings will be back down over this weekend due to Euro's and LI.

Isnt LI just a repeat over the weekend?

[*mazedsalv**]

Isnt LI just a repeat over the weekend?

Just Saturday.

And that's a bad day for BB anyway. Tonight and tomorrow BB faces matches and LI. Sunday also faces a match and LI..

[billy123]

Excluding +1:

Big Brother: 0.94m (4.5%)
Love Island: 0.93m (4.4%)

------------------

Big Brother: 1.1m (5.3%) inc. +1

[Lord Gavin]

LOVE ISLAND 1.0m
Big Brother: 0.9m

Love Island wins again

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah, this isn't good. The skew for young people for LI is double BB's too.

Bet C5 can't wait until LI and Euro's are finished, it got destroyed last night. Wales peaked at 13m last night, obviously LI wasn't dented (wtf, it's so robust!) but BB was.

[*mazedsalv**]

I basically won't take any notice of ratings in the 9pm slot anymore :p

I'll probably care more of the ratings from the Tuesday 12th onwards when both LI and Euro's are finished. Lets be honest, LI have made BB look like idiots.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

FFs Annihilation week ?!

Its happened its another Armmagedon / 4 in 4 out type twist.

What is all this about?! The show is doing fine with the housemtes just being themselves and normal nomintions its seemed to have gone back to how it used to be I'm really enjoying the nostalgic feeling but they anticipated the Love Island Final and Euros and came up with some twist which back in the Channel 4 days would be promoted a week before heavily....Like a period but Channel 5 since Viacom took over are clueless when it comes to promotion. Say what you want about the Brian Dowling days but I remember living in London and there were billboards, interactive ads in Westfield and whole buses covered with the BB logo!

ITV2 have the perfect promotion tool of just having an ident of *Love Island tonight 9pm* I thought Viacom would be beasts when it came to advertsing but c'mon if they simply had an ident or like back in the day showed an advert with clips of all the drama people would tune in because **** me seeing Hughie or Jayne going off on one would drag anyone in out of pure curiosity!

This BB cannot afford to be having such low ratings when it launched so low but the officials have been pretty impressive I think that more people are watching BB most night and it has a catch up audience of between 300k/500k which for a civilian series is very impressive! I believe those are the people watching Love Island live and when its over we will see them coming over to the good side lol and will start watching BB live.

Be prepared for a spke in ratings but much lower people watching on catchup!

[supertv247]

I don't think Annihilation week was planned just for ratings, because realistically there are actually only 3 Fridays left and 8 housemates need to be evicted by the final so I'm guessing that's why they need a 'massacre eviction'... If you work it out as one eviction each Friday (except the massacre one) then that means 6 will be going on the massacre, or maybe 5 and a double in the final week.

I think the series is so short because they're scared of the Olympics annihilating it (sorry, had to be done) so they also want to get CBB underway before the Olympics do start. But it is a bit stupid because the ratings are being hurt more by love island and they're not trying to avoid that... And as soon as ratings spike when that's finished, oh, they finish BB too...

[*mazedsalv**]

FFs Annihilation week ?!

Its happened its another Armmagedon / 4 in 4 out type twist.

What is all this about?! The show is doing fine with the housemtes just being themselves and normal nomintions its seemed to have gone back to how it used to be I'm really enjoying the nostalgic feeling but they anticipated the Love Island Final and Euros and came up with some twist which back in the Channel 4 days would be promoted a week before heavily....Like a period but Channel 5 since Viacom took over are clueless when it comes to promotion. Say what you want about the Brian Dowling days but I remember living in London and there were billboards, interactive ads in Westfield and whole buses covered with the BB logo!

ITV2 have the perfect promotion tool of just having an ident of *Love Island tonight 9pm* I thought Viacom would be beasts when it came to advertsing but c'mon if they simply had an ident or like back in the day showed an advert with clips of all the drama people would tune in because **** me seeing Hughie or Jayne going off on one would drag anyone in out of pure curiosity!

This BB cannot afford to be having such low ratings when it launched so low but the officials have been pretty impressive I think that more people are watching BB most night and it has a catch up audience of between 300k/500k which for a civilian series is very impressive! I believe those are the people watching Love Island live and when its over we will see them coming over to the good side lol and will start watching BB live.

Be prepared for a spke in ratings but much lower people watching on catchup!

The week was always planned. It wasn't a response to ratings. They saw that they had too many people at the start so they planned it. 4in4out didn't appear in the schedule until like 3 days before.

This next week will be tough but starting from the 12th we should see an increase.

What I don't get is WHY shorten the series? Surely extending it so it has more time to grow after LI and Euros finish is better

[toronto_matt]

I basically won't take any notice of ratings in the 9pm slot anymore :p

I'll probably care more of the ratings from the Tuesday 12th onwards when both LI and Euro's are finished. Lets be honest, LI have made BB look like idiots.

Love Island makes BB look like idiots? Love Island beat BB by 100k.. lol nothing really to brag about

[Rob!]

The week was always planned. It wasn't a response to ratings. They saw that they had too many people at the start so they planned it. 4in4out didn't appear in the schedule until like 3 days before.

This next week will be tough but starting from the 12th we should see an increase.

What I don't get is WHY shorten the series? Surely extending it so it has more time to grow after LI and Euros finish is better

According to Alex Scott it hasn't been shortened. It was always planned for this length.

[Maru]

I think <2-3mi per episode here in the US would cause many shows to get cancelled. I'm not sure how to interpret UK numbers, but I hope it's not cancelled after this series :(

[Rob!]

I think <2-3mi per episode here in the US would cause many shows to get cancelled. I'm not sure how to interpret UK numbers, but I hope it's not cancelled after this series :(

As far as I'm aware they're stuck with it till the end of the contract anyway.

[supertv247]

So it hit a series low last night, 660k excluding +1. Not good.. Then again, the equivalent episode last year got 700k including +1 so here's hoping it can over take that....

[*mazedsalv**]

So it hit a series low last night, 660k excluding +1. Not good.. Then again, the equivalent episode last year got 700k including +1 so here's hoping it can over take that....

Yep, but like I said, i never take notice of Saturday figures, especially when it's up against a 12m peak match that goes on until 11pm.

[supertv247]

Yeah - 742k with +1.
90k at 11pm for +1 is quite a big figure on a Saturday night, so it's definitely down to the football that clashed with BB averaging 9 million

Plus, it's still up on last years equivalent by 40k, and that had no competition.

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah - 742k with +1.
90k at 11pm for +1 is quite a big figure on a Saturday night, so it's definitely down to the football that clashed with BB averaging 9 million

Plus, it's still up on last years equivalent by 40k, and that had no competition.

Yeah that's the only positive.

Tonight I predict 1.00m, or 880k if the match goes into ET.

Then we are free of Euro clutches on Monday, Tuesday and Weds. However we still face LI on Monday and Tuesday. Wednesday BB is on at 10pm so no clash at all with both. Thursday it's on at 9pm so clash with both, Friday, no match so only clash with LI. Saturday, no clash at all.

Sunday, clash with the Euro 2016 final and LI.... OUCH. Monday, clash with the LI Final.

Then finally from Tues 12th onwards they are both gone.

[*mazedsalv**]

C5 did beat ITV last night though

River Monsters mustered just 550k (2.8%) exc. HD at 10:15pm versus the big shootout on BBC One.

[*mazedsalv**]

I can't as I'm away. Can someone post the officials? Apparently they are out. Scroll to Channel 5 Total. Hope they are there

[Rob!]

I don't know about the officials but hopefully they'll detract from the ratings disaster that was last night.

Big Brother: 840k
Love Island: 960k
Both excluding +1

:umm2:

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah last night was terrible.

But officials looking good (overnights in brackets)

Monday- 1.52m (1.10m)
Tuesday- 1.54m (1.05m)
Weds- 1.62m (1.15m)
Thursday- 1.64m (1.08m)
Friday- 1.44m (1.02m)
Saturday- 1.35m (850k)
Sunday- 1.50m (1.00m)

Average- 1.52m (Week 3 average for BB16... 1.20M.

Series average so far- 1.57M

Huge increase for the Thursday show, 560k. And around half a million for Tues,Weds Saturday and Sunday.

To note BB16 official average was 1.36m.

So far we are 210k above that.

[Rob!]

That's good. The next set of officials will be attempting to beef up nearly a week of sub 1ms though so hopefully it'll still look respectable. Bizarre to see it's not really lost it's audience. 1.64 just under 200k out of the official launch figure :clap2:

[Jack_]

These officials are really good and are proof that it's a great series. What exactly is Frow's problem? He needs to accept that the Euro's were always going to be a problem and that Love Island did what he failed miserably at and that's premiering off the back of a stellar promotion campaign.

Big Brother's was ****e and as a result launched low and has sustained said number, perhaps if they'd put in the same amount of effort as ITV2 did it might be marginally higher.

But he needs to get over the overnights, people have other priorities than flocking to your crappy channel, but if they're watching on demand and +1 which they clearly are then what's the big deal? Oh that's right, you hate the civilian series and want to drive it into the ground! **** off

[*mazedsalv**]

That's good. The next set of officials will be attempting to beef up nearly a week of sub 1ms though so hopefully it'll still look respectable. Bizarre to see it's not really lost it's audience. 1.64 just under 200k out of the official launch figure :clap2:

Exactly.

The week just gone will hurt it, but still we are at a 1.57m average. As long as it doesn't fall under 1.36m of last year I'll be happy I guess.

Hoping the half a million ratings will help.

Only Friday and Sat have been sub 1m with +1, others have been ~1.1m, i hope those still add on half a million to get ~1.6m average. Also, 1.3m for the last Weds so hopefully 1.7-1.8m for that!

[*mazedsalv**]

These officials are really good and are proof that it's a great series. What exactly is Frow's problem? He needs to accept that the Euro's were always going to be a problem and that Love Island did what he failed miserably at and that's premiering off the back of a stellar promotion campaign.

Big Brother's was ****e and as a result launched low and has sustained said number, perhaps if they'd put in the same amount of effort as ITV2 did it might be marginally higher.

But he needs to get over the overnights, people have other priorities than flocking to your crappy channel, but if they're watching on demand and +1 which they clearly are then what's the big deal? Oh that's right, you hate the civilian series and want to drive it into the ground! **** off

Agree, everywhere I look it's "Love Island is trouncing flop Big Brother". The officials see them pretty much dead-on, both averaging 1.5m across the week.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Look this series is adding over half a million in officials! That's huge!

Yes we had lowe ratings last week BUT I sincerely think the officials will increase also theres huge interest in this series and the way people watch has changed I allways watch on recorded so I can skip the adds!

The problem is with this (and I'm sure I'm not the only one) it brings overnights down and therefor doesn't bring the show the voting revenue with the live watching so maybe record 20 minutes in advance then you can skip the ads and still give the show the revenue it needs by voting. I can put up with 1 or 2 ads on evictions (I think proof of this is they have brought noms forward this year and opened lines earlier0.

In regards to advertising the show as does every other one does needs advertisers to invest in them and when a show is getting under a million some nights then yeah ofcourse Frow's gonna be pulling his hair out.

We need a series that averages like 1.3 overnight and then late 1 millions with the people catching up 1.8 possibly 2.00.

We are all to blame for the low overnights that's a fact.....Unless its the year 2000 and you're watching in Wales on S4C lol.

Ben Frow has allways spoken the truth and doesn't feed us bullcrap what other Channel actually seriously interacts with fans when they are criticizing the way they are running the show its so rude no other channel would be so open and honest.

Impressive officials/Meh overnights atm.

What I wonder is was this series actually only supposed to be 55 days? That's actually pathetic it gives off the impression that the shows been cut short which gives out a terrible image.

Love Island **** off you're a rip off of BB and I don't understand how with most of the time more people watching BB Love Islands contestants turn into overnight celebs when the housemates are pretty much forgotten.

Suppose its the same old age old people still looking down on BB but the fact Love Island is on an ITV based Channel then seeing full on Fkucing is acceptable?

I bet if BB went back to basics and was put on BBC1 or 2 it would be hitting over 2 million easily.

People are snobs.

[*mazedsalv**]

Inc +1, Big Brother averaged 1.01m (4.5%) last night.

Tonight I'm not sure. The plus side is that it is not facing the Euro's... minus side is that Love Island has been majorly hyped for tonights episode for a return of an ex to get her revenge on her cheating "partner".

So, I'm going to say 1.1m with +1 while Love Island will get a series high of 1.4m.

[supertv247]

I know there's a lot of hype for love island, but there is also a lot for the proposal on BB! I'm a fan of both (much more so BB) but can genuinely say I'm properly hyped for tonight's show and I think the proposal will boost ratings, hopefully

[Headie]

Well I'm watching Love Island live tonight to see Malin drag Terry, the preview for tonight's BB looks kinda dull so I'll watch it on +1

[daniel-lewis-1985]

BB's proposal has already been shown shown on the website and it was the cringiest thing ive ever seen.

#Cheese........Wait #CockCheese

[Rob!]

BB's proposal has already been shown shown on the website and it was the cringiest thing ive ever seen.

#Cheese........Wait #CockCheese

Lovely

[Gstar]

The proposal made me cry :')

[Jay_Roberts441]

Yeah last night was terrible.

But officials looking good (overnights in brackets)

Monday- 1.52m (1.10m)
Tuesday- 1.54m (1.05m)
Weds- 1.62m (1.15m)
Thursday- 1.64m (1.08m)
Friday- 1.44m (1.02m)
Saturday- 1.35m (850k)
Sunday- 1.50m (1.00m)

Average- 1.52m (Week 3 average for BB16... 1.20M.

Series average so far- 1.57M

Huge increase for the Thursday show, 560k. And around half a million for Tues,Weds Saturday and Sunday.

To note BB16 official average was 1.36m.

So far we are 210k above that.

Taking last weeks official ratings Love Island beat Big Brother nearly every night, the Love Island ratings in brackets with winner bolded:

Monday- 1.52m (1.54m)
Tuesday- 1.54m (1.58m)
Weds- 1.62m (1.53m)
Thursday- 1.64m (1.66m)
Friday- 1.44m (1.63m)
Saturday- 1.35m (N/A)
Sunday- 1.50m (1.61m)

Comes to something when a programme on ITV2 is beating one of the "Big 5" TV channels.

[Rob!]

Considering love island was struggling to hit 500k last year, it's insane how much it's climbed.

[reece(:]

I'm the only one out of my circle watching BB, whilst the others are hooked on LI </3

The ratings are still great considering though.

[Jay_Roberts441]

Considering love island was struggling to hit 500k last year, it's insane how much it's climbed.

Love Island does deserve every bit of success though as the format and feel of the show has changed, I would not be surprised if the official rating for an episode of Love Island hits 2.00m very soon.

I just feel as though ITV2 would be a much better channel for Big Brother to be on than Channel 5 ever will be.

[Greg!]

Love Island does deserve every bit of success though as the format and feel of the show has changed, I would not be surprised if the official rating for an episode of Love Island hits 2.00m very soon.

I just feel as though ITV2 would be a much better channel for Big Brother to be on than Channel 5 ever will be.

I agree, I hope itv snatch the rights when the contract runs out. Would love to see CBB on itv during the winter and normal BB on itv2 during summer

[Rob!]

I agree, I hope itv snatch the rights when the contract runs out. Would love to see CBB on itv during the winter and normal BB on itv2 during summer

Itv would never go as warts and all with the editing as Channels 5 and 4 have though. Can you imagine the Laura and Marco stuff airing at 9pm on ITV?

[Greg!]

Itv would never go as warts and all with the editing as Channels 5 and 4 have though. Can you imagine the Laura and Marco stuff airing at 9pm on ITV?

Well they show plenty of sex on love island so why not

[Jack_]

I've always been opposed to the idea of ITV having the rights to BB because their censorship is very heavy handed (I remember they bleeped the words 'arse' and 'bollocks' on IAC post 9pm once :umm2:) but yeah the Love Island edits are pretty liberal

So long as both versions aired on ITV2 I don't think it'd be too bad

[Greg!]

I've always been opposed to the idea of ITV having the rights to BB because their censorship is very heavy handed (I remember they bleeped the words 'arse' and 'bollocks' on IAC post 9pm once :umm2:) but yeah the Love Island edits are pretty liberal

So long as both versions aired on ITV2 I don't think it'd be too bad

Actually you're right ITV would never have shown the "David's dead" thing either. Channel 5 can keep ha or ideally c4 will snatch it back when the contract runs out

[Jack_]

Taking last weeks official ratings Love Island beat Big Brother nearly every night, the Love Island ratings in brackets with winner bolded:

Monday- 1.52m (1.54m)
Tuesday- 1.54m (1.58m)
Weds- 1.62m (1.53m)
Thursday- 1.64m (1.66m)
Friday- 1.44m (1.63m)
Saturday- 1.35m (N/A)
Sunday- 1.50m (1.61m)

Comes to something when a programme on ITV2 is beating one of the "Big 5" TV channels.

This is the power of a strong promotional campaign right here. I and several others were being laughed at at the start of the series for suggesting BB's promotion was ****e and that ITV2 knew what they were doing and that'd it make a difference and now look where we are, Love Island has gained a million viewers in a year and deserves everyone of them for producing a great series that in many ways is more Big Brother than actual Big Brother is. The snobbiness is so misplaced

Put the promo in and people will give it a go, that's the first step. Produce a good first episode and they'll stick around, that's the second. Big Brother did the latter but not the former whereas Love Island did both and have reaped the rewards. This series is posting consistent numbers, imagine what they might be if the initial launch figure had been a bit higher?

[Jason.]

I don't think C4 will ever snatch BB back. They hated the show and would've found any reason to axe it and they eventually did and didn't Jay Hunt (the chief executive of C4) say she was glad it was axed and it's found a new home on C5 or s/t

C5 will probably keep it till 2020 (renewing the contract for another two years in 2018) and what happens after then remains a mystery

[*mazedsalv**]

Love Island wins over BB, not by a lot as LI climbs 40k from the night before and BB surges 170k with no football.

Love Island- 1.23M
Big Brother- 1.18M

[*mazedsalv**]

I wonder if it will climb or fall today, hope it does stay at the 1.2m range (to be around 1.6m officially). If the football tomorrow night for Wales ends in the normal 90 minutes, then we should get ~1.3m tomorrow. But BB will be very low if Wales goes into ET tomorrow.

Then Thursday will be very low due to France V Germany.

[Cal.]

I'm sure everyone at Channel 5 will blame Big Brother being a bad show and not good enough to beat Love Island in the ratings and not the fact Love Island has had amazing promotion and Big Brother hasn't.

[crazycolaist]

Maybe the producers will finally pull the fists out their asses and stop living in a dream bubble because of LI.

[Rob!]

Love Island continues to be ridiculous.

1.3m including +1 for it last night :umm2:

BB managed 1.01m without +1. Haven't found the +1 numbers yet for it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Love Island continues to be ridiculous.

1.3m including +1 for it last night :umm2:

BB managed 1.01m without +1. Haven't found the +1 numbers yet for it.

Love Islands final is gonna hit 2 million in officials for sure.

Annoying BB was so low but the task is terrible I imagine a lot of people just switched off but after this I'm sure it will pick up again :)

Any news yet on that +1?

[LukeB]

Love Island continues to be ridiculous.

1.3m including +1 for it last night :umm2:

BB managed 1.01m without +1. Haven't found the +1 numbers yet for it.

because Love Island knows how to do a show and they know how to promote a show.

[Headie]

It's funny how y'all complain about people comparing Big Brother and Love Island all the time yet whenever BB's ratings get posted in here they're always accompanied by the Love Island ratings too when no one even asked for them :laugh:

[*mazedsalv**]

Inc +1: 1.17m (6.0%)

Love Island was at 1.32m with +1! LI is killing it.

Thing is, BB being 1.2m is the standard C5 rating, but it's getting slaughtered on social media because LI is beating it, no matter whether BB is up yearly. I can see why too, LI is a real hit, it's increased by like half a million from launch. That's incredible.

[*mazedsalv**]

It's funny how y'all complain about people comparing Big Brother and Love Island all the time yet whenever BB's ratings get posted in here they're always accompanied by the Love Island ratings too when no one even asked for them :laugh:

Because social media is making a big deal out of BB vs LI. And right now LI is making BB look like fools. And BB is getting slaughtered on social media. If BB was getting these 1.2m like it has been without LI competition, no one would bat an eyelid as it's the normal C5 level. But the fact it's getting beaten, is humiliating.

[Jack_]

Why do they keep putting it on at 9 in direct opposition to it? It's almost like they want it to fail...

[Gstar]

I've been following love island vaguely and i'm secretly perched for the final

[*mazedsalv**]

Bet C5 are praying for Wales v Portugal to finish by the 90 mins and not go into ET/Penalties as BB is on at 10pm and is not facing LI and not supposed to be facing the Euro's.

Last Weds in the 10pm slot, BB got the highest HL show since the first one by getting 1.31m. I hope Wales beats Portugal (I hope!) in the 90 mins, so i can watch BB normal time!

If not, BB will be obliterated if Wales go into Extra Time.

[*mazedsalv**]

The ratings for tonight will depend all on the match results. Tonight BB doesn't face Love Island.

BB is on at 10pm. If the match finishes in 90 mins like normal I reckon BB will get 1.25-1.30m. If Wales goes to Extra time and/or penalties I reckon BB will be at 800k. That's how much difference I reckon it will make.

[*mazedsalv**]

1.17m (7.2%) with +1 for last night.

I'm a bit disappointed as it didn't face LI or Euro's... tonight it faces both!

Last 3 days.... 1.18m, 1.17m, 1.17m. Extremely static. Shame it wasn't in the ~1.3m range last night.

[Lord Gavin]

Did it lose to love island again

[*mazedsalv**]

Did it lose to love island again

Nope. LI got 1.01m incl +1

But tbh that was facing the Euro's which peaked with almost 16m. LI was actually barely half a million away from the likes of BBC1 :shocked:

[supertv247]

I'm surprised it didn't add more +1 viewers last night, like last week when it got 1.3m.

excluding +1 it got 1.13m and Love Island got 830k.

Perhaps love island facing the euros is bad for BB, as it seems a lot of people then caught love island on +1 rather than BB at all (unlike last week)

[*mazedsalv**]

I'm surprised it didn't add more +1 viewers last night, like last week when it got 1.3m.

excluding +1 it got 1.13m and Love Island got 830k.

Perhaps love island facing the euros is bad for BB, as it seems a lot of people then caught love island on +1 rather than BB at all (unlike last week)

Yeah, I don't get why only 40k was added when last week it got 100k added on.

Tonight BB is *********! Just 2 more Euro clashes (tonight and the final on Sunday) and 4 more LI clashes left to go....

[supertv247]

Mondays love island is going to annihilate BB in the ratings. Just as BB annihilation week begins

Oh the irony.

But I noticed that weekly themes usually start on Sundays as we then see it on Monday night, whereas this starts on the Monday so for us won't actually begin until Tuesday so at least it works nicely around love island

[*mazedsalv**]

Mondays love island is going to annihilate BB in the ratings. Just as BB annihilation week begins

Oh the irony.

But I noticed that weekly themes usually start on Sundays as we then see it on Monday night, whereas this starts on the Monday so for us won't actually begin until Tuesday so at least it works nicely around love island

Yep. So much irony!

LI is looking to be 1.5m on Monday.

[Rob!]

930k excl +1 against the 8.56m the football got.

[Will.]

Not too bad, probs like 1.1M with +1

LI got 870K excl +1.

[*mazedsalv**]

Channel 5:
Big Brother- 1.1M

ITV2:
Love Island- 1.0M

[crazycolaist]

Do you guys think the media around that woman being revoked her miss title for having sex on to might of contributed to LI edging over big brother just that little bit?

[Will.]

Love Island fell to 800K including +1.

Big Brother continued with 1.1M including +1.

[*mazedsalv**]

Love Island fell to 800K including +1.

Big Brother continued with 1.1M including +1.

Yeo. 812k for LI, 1.11m for BB.

Don't know where the drop came from for LI.

Annihilation week is going to be awful in terms of what will happen, not sure about ratings, but i know it's going to be terrible. Housemates decide? Do they ****

[TomC]

Yeo. 812k for LI, 1.11m for BB.

Don't know where the drop came from for LI.

Annihilation week is going to be awful in terms of what will happen, not sure about ratings, but i know it's going to be terrible. Housemates decide? Do they ****

I know it's awful, wasn't the reaction to Danielle and Sam's evictions bad enough?

[*mazedsalv**]

I know it's awful, wasn't the reaction to Danielle and Sam's evictions bad enough?

And those were just 1 person in each instance.... imagine 4!

[Will.]

I think this year we will get some good results!

And I doubt it will be a straight froward as who do you want to evict, I can see them putting them into categories or something.

Chelsea, Jason and Andy are defo in trouble.

[Will.]

Big Brother 15 Armageddon ratings:

Monday - 1.61M
Tuesday 1.29M
Wednesday - 1.35M
Thursday - 1.58M
Friday - 1.3M

[*mazedsalv**]

I think this year we will get some good results!

And I doubt it will be a straight froward as who do you want to evict, I can see them putting them into categories or something.

Chelsea, Jason and Andy are defo in trouble.

Do you think? I think it'll be awful. I cant believe we have no say whatsoever, perhaps it would have been best if we chose the Top 4 to send through and then the remaining 8 battle it out, with 3 going or something.

But this is tragic. We will lose all the big characters if they are deciding, Alex, Sam, Lateysha will all stay which is tragic.

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother 15 Armageddon ratings:

Monday - 1.61M
Tuesday 1.29M
Wednesday - 1.35M
Thursday - 1.58M
Friday - 1.3M

Don't think it'll be anywhere near that, especially Monday against LI final. I reckon:

Monday- 0.93m
Tuesday- 1.1m
Weds- 1.1m
Thursday- 1.1m
Friday- 1.2m

Personally... and that's if throughout the week the not so big characters go, if we lose big characters, it won't make it to the end above 1m.

[Will.]

Do you think? I think it'll be awful. I cant believe we have no say whatsoever, perhaps it would have been best if we chose the Top 4 to send through and then the remaining 8 battle it out, with 3 going or something.

But this is tragic. We will lose all the big characters if they are deciding, Alex, Sam, Lateysha will all stay which is tragic.

I think there use those questions we answered to help the housemates decide so they know who the public want out, I know it breaks the outside contact "rule" but I preferred it as hopefully no faves will go.

Hopefully BB have learnt from the last 2 years, so we won't lose the public faves.

[*mazedsalv**]

I think there use those questions we answered to help the housemates decide so they know who the public want out, I know it breaks the outside contact "rule" but I preferred it as hopefully no faves will go.

Hopefully BB have learnt from the last 2 years, so we won't lose the public faves.

That'll be worse IMO. The HMs will know who's popular and evict them because they don't want the competition.

It'll be a miracle if we manage to lose Chelsea, Alex and Sam. That'll be the best case scenario, but that won't happen.

[Will.]

Don't think it'll be anywhere near that, especially Monday against LI final. I reckon:

Monday- 0.93m
Tuesday- 1.1m
Weds- 1.1m
Thursday- 1.1m
Friday- 1.2m

Personally... and that's if throughout the week the not so big characters go, if we lose big characters, it won't make it to the end above 1m.

Maybe, although didn't BB get good ratings when it wasn't clashing with LI, so perhaps from Tuesdays onwards it might improve?

I think it actually doesn't start till Tuesday on the highlights as Emma said on Monday the housemates will make difficult decisions, so we won't see it until Tuesday highlights.

[Will.]

That'll be worse IMO. The HMs will know who's popular and evict them because they don't want the competition.

It'll be a miracle if we manage to lose Chelsea, Alex and Sam. That'll be the best case scenario, but that won't happen.

Hmm, yeah I didn't think of that.

[*mazedsalv**]

Hmm, yeah I didn't think of that.

Yep, I think it will be awful.

Tbh if the likes of Hughie, Jason or Jayne go by the end of Friday, I probably will not tune in for the first time ever until the final. :bawling:

[Rob!]

1.02m for last night. I would imagine that's with +1.

[Rob!]

300k for love Island. I know Saturday's are a recap show but still :D

[Headie]

No one watches the recap episodes anyway though

[*mazedsalv**]

That looks high for BB on a Saturday! The Sats this year...

Week 1- 1.04m
Week 2- 810k
Week 3- 850k
Week 4- 742k
Week- 1.02m

I think it includes +1 but even so, that's good.

[*mazedsalv**]

Including +1, Big Brother averaged 1.12m (7.3%) last night. Its best Saturday rating of the series.

Didn't expect that!

Highest since Week7 in BB14 which got 1.13m!! :shocked:

[Jake.]

that's mad lol

[Gstar]

That's great. It looks like people are gonna be interested in the annihilation week

[Will.]

Wow :shocked::shocked::shocked:

That's amazing for a Saturday.

[reece(:]

Good ratings yet it's ending in two weeks

[*mazedsalv**]

Up against the Euro final (which peaked at 16m), BB got 900k excl +1, so that looks like 1m+ including which surprises me a lot! That's decent. LI got 860k incl +1.

Now, officials (in brackets are the overnights)

Monday- 1.45m (920k)
Tuesday- 1.55m (1.10m)
Weds- 1.77m (1.31m)
Thurs- 1.55m (1.10m)
Friday- 1.34m (820k)
Saturday- 1.39m (742k)
Sunday- 1.47m (950k)

Week average- 1.50m

Official average so far- 1.55m

The week was really bad in terms of overnights bar Weds, but officials got them increased quite a lot! So a lot of sub 1m in overnights but still a 1.5m official for the week sounds good.

[TomC]

Hopefully it can stay rounded up to 1.6.

[*mazedsalv**]

Hopefully it can stay rounded up to 1.6.

Hopefully as that would keep it with 12,13 and 15. BB15s was 1.55m exactly.

Hoping as the last week has been slightly up and around 1.1-1.2m it will mean a week average of around 1.6m.

[TomC]

Annihilation week should fare well too.

[*mazedsalv**]

Annihilation week should fare well too.

Well people online seem to be really disgusted with the fact we have no control and the fact we are not getting ANY updates on ANYTHING throught the day.

I'm not sure it will fare well, especially if the bigger characters go, as much as some people don't like the likes of Hughie, Jayne, Jason and Andy, them going will be awful, especially if we are left with Alex, Sam, Ryan, Lateysha etc...

[Jay_Roberts441]

Once again to compare Big Brother and Love Island's official ratings:

(Love Island rating is in brackets with the winner bolded)

Monday- 1.45m (1.66m)
Tuesday- 1.55m (1.66m)
Weds- 1.77m (1.54m)
Thurs- 1.55m (1.66m)
Friday- 1.34m (1.63m)
Saturday- 1.39m (N/A)
Sunday- 1.47m (1.60m)

Result: Love Island beats Big Brother every night except on Wednesday plus there is no Love Island episode on a Saturday.

[Rob!]

Ignoring Love Island, wow at that 1.77.

[Jake.]

C5 (exc. +1)
Big Brother: 1.08m (5.2%

[Rob!]

Love island final 1.2m excl +1. Channel 5 will be delighted it's out the way now.

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother: 1.2m

A climb for BB even against LI which got 1.34m with +1. It will be at around 1.3m tonight i reckon, but will drop and struggle if we lose faves.... i HATE this week.

[Rob!]

Big Brother: 1.2m

A climb for BB even against LI which got 1.34m with +1. It will be at around 1.3m tonight i reckon, but will drop and struggle if we lose faves.... i HATE this week.

I can really see myself not watching after this week if my favourites all go. Such a STUPID twist.

[TomC]

It's just incredible how C5 somehow manage to **** up three series in a row?

[*mazedsalv**]

It's just incredible how C5 somehow manage to **** up three series in a row?

Yep. It's horrific. I knew your no fan of Hughie, but I think it's a shambles that he's likely to have been gone already.

Whoever goes this way, it's wrong. I honestly don't know what C5 were thinking, they must have been on crystal meth when they thought this up.

[Cal.]

I don't really think they've ****ed this series up. It's a good series and it's better shorter than too long.

[Jason.]

It's just incredible how C5 somehow manage to **** up three series in a row?

I feel BB17 peaked way too soon imo. I loved the first 2-3 weeks, but after Natalie went I noticed a drop in quality and I'm not sure if it's because Natalie leaving or just the series in general hasn't been as good ever since.

I think maybe the two houses thing was actually good in hindsight and they should've kept it for the rest of the series? idk.

Or it's probably just my dying interest in BB in general that's making me view this series less favourably.

[TomC]

I don't think it's been bad since Natalie went, in fact I think it's been pretty good.

This week is just such a blight on what was a fantastic series. I don't even care if it was shortened to 7 weeks, but there were so many better ways to thin the numbers.

I'm still hoping will get to vote an annihilated HM back in on Friday.

[*mazedsalv**]

C5 (exc. +1)
Big Brother: Annihilation: 1.24m (6.5%)

That's the highest excl +1 since the first highlight show. That could be around 1.4m incl +1. Love Island being gone seems to have helped BB a lot.

Since Friday it's done pretty well:

Saturday- 1.12m *highest in 3 years
Sunday- ~1m *against Euro Final
Monday- 1.2m
Tuesday- ~1.3-1.4m

[Samm]

..and its ending in less then two weeks

[armand.kay]

Lol why are they ending it so early.

[Jake.]

Good stuff

[Cal.]

It's annoying cos CBB18 will cost them more money and will only be getting 1.7/1.8 a night.

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother: 1.4m (7.2%) including +1

Marco's eviction got 1.35m so I'm guessing it beat that. Highest since the first HL show.

That 1.4m is higher than most episodes of BB12, the 2nd half of BB13, BB15 and BB16. 1.4m was the average for BB14.

[Samm]

Ironic that the ratings are at a peak when they're ending it soon

[*mazedsalv**]

Ironic that the ratings are at a peak when they're ending it soon

Last night was the first time that it didn't face LI or a Euro match in the 9pm slot. May be why.

Which is why they were stupid to shorten the series. I knew ratings would be up when those 2 shows ended.

[Will.]

1.3M excluding +1.

[*mazedsalv**]

C5 (exc. +1)
Big Brother: Annihilation: 1.28m (7.6%)

That's great for 10pm slot, it will surely be around 1.4m incl +1 (for 2nd time a in a row) and well over a 8% share which will be good. Excl +1 wise it was 40k up on the night before. But thing is +1 doesn't tend to add a lot at 11pm, but there was a lot of hype that maybe it got well over 100k on +1.