Big Brother 17 Ratings Thread

[Will.]

Since there around 3/4 weeks till launch thought we could have a ratings thread to discuss the possible rating for BB17 launch.

I honestly have no idea what the launch could get.

OVERNIGHT FIGURES

BB AVERAGES

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): N/A
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): N/A
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.5m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.2m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.1m [inc. +1]

BB LAUNCH NIGHT RATINGS

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.6m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 2.7m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.1m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 2.1m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.8m [inc. +1]


BB FINAL NIGHT RATINGS
BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.1m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.5m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.7m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.3m [inc. +1]

OFFICIAL FIGURES

BB SERIES AVERAGES (OFFICIAL FIGURES)

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 1.6m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.9m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.4m [inc. +1]

BB LAUNCH NIGHT RATINGS (OFFICIAL FIGURES)


BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.77m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 2.93m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.34m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 2.43m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 2.09m [inc. +1]

BB FINAL NIGHT RATINGS (OFFICIAL FIGURES)

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.20m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.76m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.20m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.77m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.37m [excl. +1]

[Will.]

I predict 1.95M

[Black Dagger]

2.2m for launch and then a 1.4 average.

[LukeB]

1.5 for the launch then it will go down

[Jake.]

1.9 launch

[Jake.]

pretty sure those ratings aren't right though

[Jake.]

no, ignore me, i read them wrong

[Pete.]

1.79m for launch

[TomC]

idk it looks like they've really put effort into it this time, so hopefully that pays off ratings-wise.

[Will.]

Yeah it does seem like more effort is being put into this series.

[Jason.]

Some stats for all the C5 series:

OVERNIGHT FIGURES

BB AVERAGES

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): N/A
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): N/A
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.5m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.2m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.1m [inc. +1]

BB LAUNCH NIGHT RATINGS

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.6m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 2.7m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.1m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 2.1m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.8m [inc. +1]

BB FINAL NIGHT RATINGS

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.1m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.5m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.7m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.3m [inc. +1]

OFFICIAL FIGURES

BB SERIES AVERAGES

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 1.6m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.9m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.4m [inc. +1]

BB LAUNCH NIGHT RATINGS

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.77m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 2.93m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.34m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 2.43m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 2.09m [inc. +1]

BB FINAL NIGHT RATINGS

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.20m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.76m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.20m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.77m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.37m [excl. +1]

I'll be optimistic and predict 2.0m overnight for the launch and 1.5m for the series average officially.

[Denver]

9.8

[Will.]

Some stats for all the C5 series:

OVERNIGHT FIGURES

BB AVERAGES

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): N/A
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): N/A
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.5m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.2m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.1m [inc. +1]

BB LAUNCH NIGHT RATINGS

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.6m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 2.7m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.1m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 2.1m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.8m [inc. +1]


BB FINAL NIGHT RATINGS
BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.1m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.5m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.7m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.3m [inc. +1]

OFFICIAL FIGURES

BB SERIES AVERAGES (OFFICIAL FIGURES)

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 1.6m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 1.9m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.4m [inc. +1]

BB LAUNCH NIGHT RATINGS (OFFICIAL FIGURES)


BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.77m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 2.93m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.34m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 2.43m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 2.09m [inc. +1]

BB FINAL NIGHT RATINGS (OFFICIAL FIGURES)

BIG BROTHER 12 (2011): 2.20m
BIG BROTHER 13 (2012): 1.76m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 14 (2013): 2.20m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 15 (2014): 1.77m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 16 (2015): 1.37m [excl. +1]

I'll be optimistic and predict 2.0m overnight for the launch and 1.5m for the series average officially.

Thanks for adding this! I remember you got this last time! Really helps. :)

[Jason.]

You can add it to the OP if you want ^

[Will.]

You can add it to the OP if you want ^

Oh yeah, good idea.

[*mazedsalv**]

Reading the history, it really makes 14 look good. When it launched very low I remember people worrying. But it's the highest rated regular.

16 launched poorly, and have a feeling 17 will launch the same. Perhaps a tiny bit more. 1.86m I predict with +1.

It's unbelievable when you compare 15 and 16 ratings to the previous three winter CBB series. With CBB IMO the sky's the limit. With civilian I don't think it will ever touch 14 figures.

[Rob!]

If I remember rightly last year had quite a bit of competition against the launch didn't it? It will hopefully do better this year

[Samm]

2M+, it'll do better then last years I think since it started like a few days after they started promoting it

[VanessaFeltz.]

1.9

[Babayaro.]

1.7

[Will.]

2M+, it'll do better then last years I think since it started like a few days after they started promoting it

Yeah I agree.

[Ashley.]

2.12

[Glenn.]

54.3m

[*mazedsalv**]

Bump!! Now we know the date (i think). My predictions:

Launch- 1.82m
Wednesday-1.31m
Thursday- 1.28m
Friday- 0.97m (against opening game)
Saturday- 0.79m
Sunday- 1.30m

Last year IMO was harmed by the earliest C5 start... actually, looking at Wikipedia, never in the history of BBUK, had it started that early. The previous earliest was the 18th May 2006 when BB7 launched. This time last year it had already been on for 13 days as it started on the 12th May. The Monday coming up will mark a year since 4in4out happened.

But i think that, plus the fact that I am sure it had quite a bit of competition (more than most years) and it ended up getting 1.8m. So, i think around the same, but like I said, it wouldn't shock me if it was between 1.5-1.6m.

[Rob!]

Now we know the scheduling, what is up against it on Launch Night? Isn't Silent Witness usually back when BB returns or am I thinking of CBB?

[*mazedsalv**]

Now we know the scheduling, what is up against it on Launch Night? Isn't Silent Witness usually back when BB returns or am I thinking of CBB?

You're thinking CBB. Silent Witness is normally on January,.

Launch apparently is up against the Cameron/Farage debate.

Anything else?

[Rob!]

I mean that will dent the launch but it's hardly the same demographic is it? Mind you on the other hand it's a big debate so who knows.

[*mazedsalv**]

Bump!

[Rob!]

So little promotion. Someone I know who absolutely loves it had no idea it was back so soon.

[Jason.]

They need to promote it like how ITV2 promote LI imo

[*mazedsalv**]

They need to promote it like how ITV2 promote LI imo

For sure.

I reckon from tomorrow with new information coming in potentially they should start promoting it more!

Love Island played it very well

[Will.]

Yeah. I guess it will get will some good promo on This Morning during the week.

I haven't really been watching MTV/Comedy Central so not sure if they've been playing the advert a lot.

[Jack_]

If the shoddy promotion doesn't step up I wouldn't be surprised if it's as low as 1.3/1.4m

[Rob!]

I get the feeling Love Island is going to be a problem this year. The excellent promo ITV have given it meant that it launched to 850k inc +1 last night. It only got 450k for it's launch last year.

[*mazedsalv**]

I think Love Island will be a problem now. It's going to take a lot of viewers off BB as it's in the demo.

We also have the Euro's to worry about, which I think will dent it even if there are non important games. I think people underestimate that there are a lot of people who watch footie and BB (me for starters).

Then we have the Olympics, but don't think that'll be too big a deal considering it's in Rio, the bigger events will play out surely when BB isn't on. As their primetime will be either 5 hours behind or ahead (can't remember which one).

[*mazedsalv**]

The Hotel Inspector: 1.6m (8.2%) inc +1

Interesting that this returned last night higher than every single show of BB16 bar the launch. It proves that there is still a C5 audience out there (Can't Pay is also delivering similar ratings), so in theory, BB should not be falling below but it will probably average 1.1m or something, which is pretty embarrassing.

[Jason.]

I wouldn't worry about LI. BB will get more than LI regardless. I mean last years promo for LI wasn't too bad either, but that didn't stop BB16 (the lowest-rated series with no promo whatsoever) get double its ratings.

[Cal.]

No one knows it's launching on Tuesday. I don't think it'll launch well unless the promo intensifies over the next few days.

[*mazedsalv**]

It's going to launch, really low.

Like really low. Probably 1.3m

[Mrmattybeck]

It's going to launch, really low.

Like really low. Probably 1.3m



It's a shame that only so many watch bbuk now would hate it if only CBB was still on


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[RichardG]

How embarrassing if that's all it gets :shame:

[*mazedsalv**]

How embarrassing if that's all it gets :shame:

Be prepared for the truth mate.

I'm a male version of Mystic Meg

[RichardG]

I'll say 2m, let's get some optimism up in here :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

I'll say 2m, let's get some optimism up in here :clap1:

I wish!

[Samm]

It's going to launch, really low.

Like really low. Probably 1.3m

Last year's got less promo and had a higher rating though?

It'll be around 1.8 ish I think

[*mazedsalv**]

Love Island actually seems to have captured the publics attention this year. Pretty sure against Gogglebox it got a non premiere high of like 800k.

Now tonight someone was kicked out. I really reckon it fill be a problem for BB. That along with the Olympics and Euro 2016 we are in for a tough one!

[MB.]

Love Island has captured public attention because a) the media are covering it this time round b) the advertising was bordering on Goebbels-esque

[Jack_]

It deserves to be a problem for BB, it's been brilliant so far and last year's was better than BB16 and I'm calling it now idc - this year's will be better than BB17

They promoted the **** out of it because they wanted it to do better than last series and are rightly reaping the rewards. If only C5 had the same attitude :rolleyes:

[Mrmattybeck]

It deserves to be a problem for BB, it's been brilliant so far and last year's was better than BB16 and I'm calling it now idc - this year's will be better than BB17

They promoted the **** out of it because they wanted it to do better than last series and are rightly reaping the rewards. If only C5 had the same attitude :rolleyes:



Exactly bbuk struggled last year c5 should be promoting it more


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[Samm]

I watched some of Love Island tonight and it serves TOWIE and bland :sorry:

[Jake.]

Big Brother: 1.39m (7.7%) exc +1

[*mazedsalv**]

Well that's bloody awful.

But expected.

[Oaker]

They tried :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

Did they try though? I mean, the promo....

Was awful.

[Strictly Jake]

More than I thought

[*mazedsalv**]

At best, it's like 300k down on BB16 launch

[Kai Anders]

What did love island achieve out of curiosity?

[Kai Anders]

Plus side, it's already 90K up on time bombs dire 1.30m official ratings

[*mazedsalv**]

It's going to be a LONGGGG series.

Especially against Olympics, the Euro's etc... in fact, I can barely watch at how bad the numbers will be!

[*mazedsalv**]

What did love island achieve out of curiosity?

Excl +1

Love Island: 0.55m (2.7%)

Around 700k incl. Certainly holding it's own.

[Kai Anders]

Excl +1

Love Island: 0.55m (2.7%)

Around 700k incl. Certainly holding it's own.

Anyone else feel like Love Island is a better representation of the Big Brother we all want than the actual Big Brother is anymore? I'm far more into love island than ever before!

[*mazedsalv**]

Anyone else feel like Love Island is a better representation of the Big Brother we all want than the actual Big Brother is anymore? I'm far more into love island than ever before!

I've watched snippets, not my thing really, but I can see that it's captured the publics interest this time. And I can sort of see why.

[JohnnyBB]

problem with 1.3m for launch we know veiwers dip quite a lot afterwards so is this series going to dip under 1 million ;\

[RichardG]

lol how long before they axe it? the hotel inspector is beating the launch night :shame:

[*mazedsalv**]

problem with 1.3m for launch we know veiwers dip quite a lot afterwards so is this series going to dip under 1 million ;\

Well, we don't know what the +1 figure, with a 1.4m excl it will be a ~1.6m.

But your point still stands, if BB16 launched at 1.8m like it did, and then dipped to 0.9-1.0 the first weekend, then we can certainly expect that this year.

IMO, last night got 1.58m incl +1, and tonight will get 1.21m.

[*mazedsalv**]

lol how long before they axe it? the hotel inspector is beating the launch night :shame:

I think they will be similar when +1 is added.

But still, I agree. THI is cheap af.

[TomC]

The Hotel Inspector is a good show! It's a shame but you can't get too hung up on the ratings.

[TomC]

I mean it does seem like the last two really have scared people off tho

[*mazedsalv**]

I mean it does seem like the last two really have scared people off tho

For sure.

[RichardG]

I mean it does seem like the last two really have scared people off tho

if i didn't feel this weird sense of loyalty to the show after sticking with it for 10+ years then i wouldn't have bothered checking out the launch after bb15 and 16 either tbh...

[Rob!]

Erm...I don't really know what to say to that.
I think I'm actually not going to bother following the ratings this year. Especially if it's a good series...which with that figure and the way they chased ratings last year I don't think it will be. I'm actually stunned.

[TomC]

I'm really shocked too tbh

[RichardG]

honestly it's dead :sad: we need a miracle guys

[Rob!]

Like....that's the launch.

Daniel and Jack are going to have strokes when they see this :worry:

[Rob!]

The debate got 4.1m. I dunno how much that would have eaten into BB...it's hardly the same type of audience.

[LukeB]

The ratings are bad :worry:

But they didn't promote it enough, i had messages from people saying wtf big brother is on etc

So it was obvious it was going to be low

[MB.]

Hopefully that's just the casual viewers who stop watching after the launch anyway who've given up on it this year... because otherwise, so long BB18

[RichardG]

The ratings are bad :worry:

But they didn't promote it enough, i had messages from people saying wtf big brother is on etc

So it was obvious it was going to be low

i mean people have been saying "huh it's back?" for years and the launches still did *ok*. even with a better ad campaign you can't let everyone in the country know it's on, i think people just don't care anymore.

[Rob!]

I mean I know this doesn't help us but apparently Eastenders was the highest rating of the day yesterday and that only got 5.93m which really isn't that high.
Still, there's no spinning that figure.

[MB.]

How does the share compare to previous launches?

[Rob!]

I would imagine not well

[MB.]

Well bugger

[Oaker]

Let's hope this series does a BB14 and brings in more viewers as it goes :clap1:

(Even though this is really unlikely)

[MB.]

Let's hope this series does a BB14 and brings in more viewers as it goes :clap1:

(Even though this is really unlikely)

Isn't that what BB16 did? :worry:

[Oaker]

BB16 actually did get a boost in viewers after 4in4out, I just checked :worry:

[RichardG]

c5 to bring back helen again? :laugh:

[Oaker]

Let's just hope this a good series and not worry too much about the ratings tbh

[Samm]

Could of been better if they promoted it more, but meh you see overnight figures for shows dropping more and more every year, it's the officials that matter the most

[daniel-lewis-1985]

lol how long before they axe it? the hotel inspector is beating the launch night :shame:

I never understand why fans laugh at low ratings and it possibly being axed....Why are you even watching? Actually stay it needs the extra viewers lol even if they are trolls!

[RichardG]

I never understand why fans laugh at low ratings and it possibly being axed....Why are you even watching? Actually stay it needs the extra viewers lol even if they are trolls!

:umm2: i love bb and would hate it to be axed

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Well, we don't know what the +1 figure, with a 1.4m excl it will be a ~1.6m.

But your point still stands, if BB16 launched at 1.8m like it did, and then dipped to 0.9-1.0 the first weekend, then we can certainly expect that this year.

IMO, last night got 1.58m incl +1, and tonight will get 1.21m.

I didn't expect massive ratings its not an event anymore but why do we see 1.6 million basically as a disaster when its still slaying all the other reality shows barr I'm a celeb.

TOWIE gets about 500k and I think its highest was only ever 1.7 but is seen as a phenomenon and all its cast turned into stars same with Geordie Shore that gets under 1 million in overnights I believe and Love Island? 700k.

What did BOTS get? God I had to switch that off it was just all about orgies and ******* it was like an episode of EuroTrash.

[MB.]

-asks why people even watch BB if they dare to criticise it or acknowledge that it isn't doing brilliantly well-

-goes on to immediately criticise BOTS-

[daniel-lewis-1985]

-asks why people even watch BB if they dare to criticise it or acknowledge that it isn't doing brilliantly well-

-goes on to immediately criticise BOTS-

No I wonder why people LAUGH at it doing bad and BOTS is a different show.

[Rob!]

I saw the last ten minutes or so of BOTS last night before the live feed and it was absolutely awful. Poor Debbie McGee having to deal with the death of her husband and Tiffany in the space of a few months :laugh:

[RichardG]

No I wonder why people LAUGH at it doing bad and BOTS is a different show.

i'm not laughing? i'm not happy that the ratings are poor? do you want me to post a crying emoji instead, would that make you feel better?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

i'm not laughing? i'm not happy that the ratings are poor? do you want me to post a crying emoji instead, would that make you feel better?

Oh sorry I was confused by you posting LOL!

"lol how long before they axe it?"

[RichardG]

perhaps you shouldn't take everything so seriously, i wouldn't still be watching the show after so many years and posting about it on a dedicated forum if i didn't care about it would i?

[crazycolaist]

Official will get it to 2m we hope

[crazycolaist]

does overnights incl recordings or is that officials?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

perhaps you shouldn't take everything so seriously, i wouldn't still be watching the show after so many years and posting about it on a dedicated forum if i didn't care about it would i?

Look if you make a comment laughing how my fav show didn't perform well its like a fan laughing at your fav football team losing lol.

I just don't get why fans find it funny (not just you a lot of members genuinely laugh at it when it fails which I don't understand) when it doesn't do as well as expected especially when with all the effort producers put in.

Ive been watching 16 years its my baby lol.

[Rob!]

+1 apparently took it up to 1.6m. It looks better but it's still dire. God knows where it's going to go from here.

[*mazedsalv**]

According to Broadcast:

BB launched with 1.6m (8.4%) including +1, down on last year's 1.8m (10%), but was up on the channel's 980k (5.5%) slot average.

It's poor but not as bad now the +1 is in there.

[Rob!]

Where did it come in relation to the other channels?

[*mazedsalv**]

Well, the EU debate was the first time ITV on a Tuesday (bar BGT semis) got over 4m in ages! ITV Tues are usually flops and never goes over 2.5m.

So, that would have damaged it, as would Love Island.

[Headie]

Damn, this really is gonna be the last civlian series ain't it

[*mazedsalv**]

Damn, this really is gonna be the last civlian series ain't it

Probably.

But CBB is more popular, so if it's down, it's down, and nothing will help it.

[*mazedsalv**]

So, predictions for the next few days...

Tonight- 1.18m
Thursday- 1.15m
Friday- 0.95m (against opening ceremony)
Saturday- 0.59m (10pm after England Euro match)
Sunday- 1.14m

In comparison, BB16....

Launch- 1.8m
Wednesday- 1.19m
Thursday- 1.20m
Friday- 1.35m
Saturday- 0.75m
Sunday- 1.12m

[Ross.]

Chill and just enjoy the show people

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think BB just has a core audience now of around 1.2 who will allways watch live and it still has its say 300k who catch up and I cant see it dropping off much like it used to. Yes we used to get big numbers for launch but the drop off was huge now more people stick with it.

[zakman440]

That rating is awful tbh, but it was to be expected with the lack of promotion in comparison to Love Island (and Rylan backing out of Radio 1).

The problem is, if the next few weeks continue to be so low then that's when the producers start going in to panic mode. If they attempt to reset the series again in a few weeks time, they run the risk of losing the audience that's still there.

[Jack_]

Like....that's the launch.

Daniel and Jack are going to have strokes when they see this :worry:

Nah, this is precisely what I expected. In fact I thought it would be lower :laugh:

The promotion ****ing sucked, people kept trying to defend it but it sucked. And they've rightfully paid the price. Unfortunately for us fans this is going to be the last civilian series so let's enjoy it before C5 ram the proverbial dick of CBB down our throats forever more, which I won't be staying for

[Rob!]

I think the best we can hope for at this stage is that the officials beef it up. Last night at the very least should hit 1.9/2m in the officials.

[nonstop]

Christ, those are poor ratings for a Launch. Channel 5 should just end the civilian series.

[Jason.]

That is an awful rating but it was to be expected. Not only because the promo wasn't as good but the show is never going to rate as well after BB15/16. Not to mention they've lost quite a percentage of the loyal 1.6m viewers they had 3/4 years back.

And the promo was awful - my sister only found out it was launching half an hour before the launch even started. :umm2:

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother (10pm): 1.36m (9.1%)

That's the smallest launch to first night drop ever on BB.

That's quite impressive considering BB launch got 1.39m excl +1. And to be at 10pm, the share was much higher than launch. However, not much will be added on +1 because that would have been broadcasted at 11pm.

To compare, Big Brother 2015 first HL show got 1.19m incl +1, and this is set to be ~1.5m with +1.

Love Island went on to post a phenomenal figure of 0.92m excl +1

[MB.]

Okay that's slightly less disconcerting and would suggest some sort of stable audience at least

[*mazedsalv**]

Okay that's slightly less disconcerting and would suggest some sort of stable audience at least

For sure.

Last year:
Launch- 1.83m
1st HL show- 1.19m

This year:
Launch- 1.6m
1st HL show- ~1.5m

The norm is a drop of 20-25%, last nights drop (excl +1 anyway), barely even registers a 5% drop.

So, does this mean, a 10pm slot will help BB this year? Tonight and tomorrow it's back at 9pm. Both facing Love Island and then Euro's on Friday, so that will be tricky.

But it's very positive news for last night though.

[RichardG]

omg I was kinda nervous clicking on this thread :blush: that's good, I can only hope it improves because if last night was anything to go by then I think this is gonna be a very good season^.^

i'm kinda shocked tho, it got quite a lot of negativity regarding the housemate selection online so for basically all of those to still tune in anyway is surprising

[*mazedsalv**]

omg I was kinda nervous clicking on this thread :blush: that's good, I can only hope it improves because if last night was anything to go by then I think this is gonna be a very good season^.^

i'm kinda shocked tho, it got quite a lot of negativity regarding the housemate selection online so for basically all of those to still tune in anyway is surprising

I honestly think the EU debate took viewers away, as did Love Island.

Watch BB fall tonight facing Love island.

It seems after last night that LI at 9pm and BB on at 10pm every day (bar evictions of course) should be what they must do because BB had the smallest drop ever and LI got the highest ever rating since launching on ITV2 over a year ago.

Tonight will be down to around ~1.2-1.3m IMO. Perhaps 1.12m excl and then 180k on +1.

Tomorrow doesn't bear thinking about.

[Jake.]

Wow! I'm really impressed that it only dropped slightly from the launch... I was honestly expecting 900k or something, so fair play.

[TomC]

That's pretty good, I thought it would be a big drop considering how negative comments on FB were about the launch. Last night was a good enough show to keep people hooked as well.

[Will.]

That's really impressive.

[TomC]

I honestly think the EU debate took viewers away, as did Love Island.

Watch BB fall tonight facing Love island.

It seems after last night that LI at 9pm and BB on at 10pm every day (bar evictions of course) should be what they must do because BB had the smallest drop ever and LI got the highest ever rating since launching on ITV2 over a year ago.

Tonight will be down to around ~1.2-1.3m IMO. Perhaps 1.12m excl and then 180k on +1.

Tomorrow doesn't bear thinking about.

When does LI finish? I think there are only 2 episodes at 10pm next week, and tbh I hate stayin up till 10pm in week nights to watch it.

[*mazedsalv**]

When does LI finish? I think there are only 2 episodes at 10pm next week, and tbh I hate stayin up till 10pm in week nights to watch it.

Quite a lot i think. Tonight is 11/31. So they are only a third into the run it seems.

[TomC]

Quite a lot i think. Tonight is 11/31. So they are only a third into the run it seems.

Omg :omgno:

[zakman440]

That's quite a good retention, and last night's opening was a strong episode tbh :clap1:. An astonishing rating for Love Island though - I think it'll be safe to say that it'll probably be getting a recommission if they manage to keep a high audience.

In other ratings news:

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[*mazedsalv**]

Omg :omgno:

Mate, suck it up and go to bed at 11pm :laugh:

[JohnnyBB]

The Hotel Inspector: 1.39m (7.5%)
Big Brother: 1.36m (9.1%)

[Jake.]

That's quite a good retention, and last night's opening was a strong episode tbh :clap1:. An astonishing rating for Love Island though - I think it'll be safe to say that it'll probably be getting a recommission if they manage to keep a high audience.

In other ratings news:

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I believe that was only in relation to the launch, not last nights ep

[Samm]

Glad it's stable, it deserves it last nights show was really good

[Rob!]

Oooh that's extremely positive? Last night was an excellent episode so hopefully it'll be enough to sustain some interest over the coming days. Love Island can do one, it is SUCH trash. Even Timebomb was obliterating it last year and this looks to be a much better series.

[TomC]

Oooh that's extremely positive? Last night was an excellent episode so hopefully it'll be enough to sustain some interest over the coming days. Love Island can do one, it is SUCH trash. Even Timebomb was obliterating it last year and this looks to be a much better series.

I watched Love Island for 15 misn one night and just couldn't stick it, who would want to watch like 15 good looking model types? I just don't get it, they're not interesting or relatable.

[Ross.]

It's actually quite enjoyable if you give it a chance.

[TomC]

It's actually quite enjoyable if you give it a chance.

My allegiance lies with BB!

[Firewire]

I'm making both work

Happy for Love Island doing so well though and that's a great rating for BB

[Rob!]

I watched Love Island for 15 misn one night and just couldn't stick it, who would want to watch like 15 good looking model types? I just don't get it, they're not interesting or relatable.

You could say that about BB tbf though :laugh:
The thing that I hate about the concept of Love Island is that it seems to be a show based on the idea of showmances. Like why would I care?

[Ross.]

My allegiance lies with BB!

So does mine, but I can still enjoy Love Island too. :laugh:

[Ross.]

You could say that about BB tbf though :laugh:
The thing that I hate about the concept of Love Island is that it seems to be a show based on the idea of showmances. Like why would I care?

I thought this at first too but it surprised me with how entertaining I found it.

[reece(:]

All I know about Love Island is someone got snatched and kicked off, I've got Love and Hip Hop to fill that sort of TV!

[Jason.]

It's actually quite enjoyable if you give it a chance.

Educate :clap2:

Idg the LI snobbery, I prefer BB as a show but as if C5 BB is any better than LI. They couldnt even promote their own show well. And last year's LI was way better than the last two years of BB imo.

And in terms of Tom's "good looking and model types" comment - this years LI cast actually has more normal people than BB17's cast and if you look at their jobs - they're much more normal and everyday than the people's in BB17's - who've all been on the cusp of fame bar Hughie.

But anyway - great retention for BB last night. This series has potential and I pray and hope the producers don't push the panic button unlike last year. The first show was entertaining and they should let them just get on with it.

[TomC]

And in terms of Tom's "good looking and model types" comment - this years LI cast actually has more normal people than BB17's cast and if you look at their jobs - they're much more normal and everyday than the people's in BB17's - who've all been on the cusp of fame bar Hughie.


don't do this to me Jason

[Jason.]

don't do this to me Jason

You know I'm right :oh:

[TomC]

You know I'm right :oh:

I don't, I've not watched it, and shan't. :hmph:

[supertv247]

Last night's highlights show was more watched than ANY of Big Brother timebomb's highlights shows (almost every episode last series as well)

[Jack.]

Last night's highlights show was more watched than ANY of Big Brother timebomb's highlights shows (almost every episode last series as well)

:suspect: Last series was timebomb wasn't it :laugh:

[supertv247]

:suspect: Last series was timebomb wasn't it :laugh:

Yes, badly wrote that! I meant it's more watched than all the highlights but is also more watched than a lot of live shows and stuff too, so almost beating every episode bar a few as well :laugh:

[*mazedsalv**]

It's early days and all but last night was the highest rated highlight show since the Thursday rating of Armeggedon week in BB15, two years ago.

Strange. I guess 10pm is a good idea this time. It will be down tonight and certainly tomorrow and Saturday.

[Rob!]

I emailed Ben Frow saying that I was really enjoying the series so far, commented on the amazing retention rate from last night and asked him about the live updates on Twitter but all I got back was "Thank you. Hopefully it'll get even better!"

[*mazedsalv**]

I emailed Ben Frow saying that I was really enjoying the series so far, commented on the amazing retention rate from last night and asked him about the live updates on Twitter but all I got back was "Thank you. Hopefully it'll get even better!"
Typical.

Should we all send the same message?

[Rob!]

Well as long as the positivity is there too - I don't see the point in bombarding him with criticism.

[Jack.]

Yes, badly wrote that! I meant it's more watched than all the highlights but is also more watched than a lot of live shows and stuff too, so almost beating every episode bar a few as well :laugh:

Ah right :laugh:

[Jack_]

That's quite a good retention, and last night's opening was a strong episode tbh :clap1:. An astonishing rating for Love Island though - I think it'll be safe to say that it'll probably be getting a recommission if they manage to keep a high audience.

In other ratings news:

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welp challenging in a 'it's our goal to improve them' way or a 'this is not good news for the future of the civilian series' way?

Someone should email him and ask him what the likelihood of the civilian series being axed before the end of the contract is if the ratings continued to be poor, hopefully to put our minds at rest one way or another

Oooh that's extremely positive? Last night was an excellent episode so hopefully it'll be enough to sustain some interest over the coming days. Love Island can do one, it is SUCH trash. Even Timebomb was obliterating it last year and this looks to be a much better series.

It may have obliterated it in the ratings but not in series quality, Love Island blew BB16 out of the water

People should give it a chance, I wasn't expecting to like it last year and had the same snobby attitude as most but it was surprisingly good and this year looks extremely promising too, and as others have said the cast are far more like how Big Brother's used to be than they are now - I'd actually say the editing is far more old school BB-esque too.

It might be a show about showmances but there were people last year who made it to the final having never found any love interest and one couple who were just solely friends. You find out a lot about the personalities of each of the islanders and so while the show revolves around the theme of love, it's still got the same qualities I enjoy in Big Brother. It's very underrated

[LukeB]

Love Island is not trash :nono:

It's actually entertaining so who cares if it's about showmances really

[*mazedsalv**]

LI is not my thing but having watched half of an episode last week I can see why it's doing well. I think the cast is actually decent.

[Samm]

It's early days and all but last night was the highest rated highlight show since the Thursday rating of Armeggedon week in BB15, two years ago..

Welp really

[Samm]

As for Love Island I stuck to watching nearly a full episode of it a few days ago, but still don't like, it's like they've stuck the cast of TOWIE in a villa?

[*mazedsalv**]

Welp really

Yep because last night with +1 got between 1.45-1.55m.

The highest HL show last year was 1.40m.

And the Thursday Armeggedon ep got around 1.5m.

[Ross.]

It's early days and all but last night was the highest rated highlight show since the Thursday rating of Armeggedon week in BB15, two years ago.

What do you mean? The highest Thursday highlights show rating since then or just the highest highlights show rating since then? :laugh:

[MB.]

What do you mean? The highest Thursday highlights show rating since then or just the highest highlights show rating since then? :laugh:

It can't have been the highest Thursday highlights show because it was Wednesday last night

[*mazedsalv**]

What do you mean? The highest Thursday highlights show rating since then or just the highest highlights show rating since then? :laugh:

Huh?

No I mean last night was higher than every show. Was the highest since Thursday Week 6 in BB15.

Not highest Thursday as it wasn't Thurs last night :joker:

[LukeB]

ffs Ross you made me think it was Friday

[ShazzerG]

I would have loved a live eviction on launch night x :cheer2:

[Ross.]

Oops

[Headie]

What do you mean? The highest Thursday highlights show rating since then or just the highest highlights show rating since then? :laugh:

Last night was Wednesday you sly idiot
https://uploadir.com/u/2y59lx9n

[Oaker]

That Natalie GIF :joker:

[TomC]

It's early days and all but last night was the highest rated highlight show since the Thursday rating of Armeggedon week in BB15, two years ago.

Strange. I guess 10pm is a good idea this time. It will be down tonight and certainly tomorrow and Saturday.

That's quite amazing! But I don't think it's to do with the fact it was on at 10pm. I daresay it was a fluke :worry: I think it was just more down to the fact there wasn't much competition.

[Ross.]

Last night was Wednesday you sly idiot
https://uploadir.com/u/2y59lx9n

I realised my mistake so don't give me that sly look

https://uploadir.com/u/qzppz4us

[nonstop]

Consistent rating tbh

But that Love Island rating D:

[*mazedsalv**]

Rob, what is Frow's email anyway?

[crazycolaist]

They can gain & maintain numbers this year pretty confident imo.

[crazycolaist]

Just too many yutes to be fair. Ages 30-50 they should of stuck at and 18-29 a minority. Feels the other way (as per usual)

[*mazedsalv**]

Just too many yutes to be fair. Ages 30-50 they should of stuck at and 18-29 a minority. Feels the other way (as per usual)

It's the oldest cast in BBUK history

[Will.]

Vicky Pattison is tweeting about the show a lot and she has 2M followers so that probably helps, it could be appealing to GS viewers.

[Greg!]

Vicky Pattison is tweeting about the show a lot and she has 2M followers so that probably helps, it could be appealing to GS viewers.

Queen get her on CBB

[Greg!]

Are these ratings good for channel 5?

[zakman440]

what is Frow's email anyway?

ben.frow@channel5.com iirc

[Will.]

If it continues to get around 1.4/5M inc +1 then yeah it's really for CH5 and BB.

CH5's average is like 900k.

[Will.]

It should be higher tonight as it always improves after the day 1 highlights but I'm not sure if it will.

[Will.]

Last year actually only increased by 10K.

[Samm]

It should be higher tonight as it always improves after the day 1 highlights but I'm not sure if it will.

It's up against another EU thing though

[Pete.]

What did they expect by launching on a Tuesday

https://uploadir.com/u/qzppz4us

[Jake.]

Excluding +1:

Big Brother: 1.04m (5.3%)
Love Island: 0.68m (3.4%)

[sampvt]

stop blaming what its up against. the show is basically ruined by the prods interference.

[Jake.]

stop blaming what its up against. the show is basically ruined by the prods interference.

Of course the ratings are going to be affected by what it's up against. That's how television works.

[Babayaro.]

Of course the ratings are going to be affected by what it's up against. That's how television works.

lmao

[Oliver_W]

Sure the % share is just as important as the actual viewing figure? 5% ain't too shabby.

[Jake.]

Big Brother: 1.2m (6.2%) inc +1

[Drew.]

Of course the ratings are going to be affected by what it's up against. That's how television works.

:joker:

[JohnnyBB]

Veiwers are switching off in there droves because they don't want to watch a bunch of ultra z listers that have allready had a sniff of fame.

[Jake.]

Veiwers are switching off in there droves because they don't want to watch a bunch of ultra z listers that have allready had a sniff of fame.

"In their droves" is a bit OTT don't you think?

Viewers drop from the launch every year, this is nothing new

[JohnnyBB]

"In their droves" is a bit OTT don't you think?

Viewers drop from the launch every year, this is nothing new

I don't think its ott read tweets and Facebook there not happy everyones saying the same thing time and time again since launch its only downhill from here.

[Babayaro.]

**** me are the Facebook mob ever happy?

[Firewire]

1.2m isn't bad

[Mrmattybeck]

**** me are the Facebook mob ever happy?



Nope they must say the same thing every year


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[Jake.]

I don't think its ott read tweets and Facebook there not happy everyones saying the same thing time and time again since launch its only downhill from here.

Nope they must say the same thing every year


Well there you go then

[Ross.]

:joker:

[Will.]

1.2M is what the first Thursday got last year.

[TomC]

Not too bad then. But surely it won't climb like last year unless they pull desperate stunts :worry:

[crazycolaist]

Veiwers are switching off in there droves because they don't want to watch a bunch of ultra z listers that have allready had a sniff of fame.


Agreed with the last part. Spot on.

[Samm]

Veiwers are switching off in there droves because they don't want to watch a bunch of ultra z listers that have allready had a sniff of fame.

Do you say anything that's not negative? it was up against the EU debate and Love Island which from the ratings clearly effects both shows when they're both on

[12bigbrother12]

It may be matching last year, but last year was widely considered a failure.

Nikki and Helen returning in 3, 2 ....

[Will.]

It's not as bad as last year:

Sat (first Saturday): 750K
Sun: 1.12M
Mon: 1.13M
Tues: 1.08M
Wed: 1.17M
Thurs: 1.05M
Fri: 1.10M
Sat: 640K
Sun: 900K
Mon: 877K
Tues: 1M
Wed: 974K

It would have to fall like this in the coming weeks, welp at 640K.

[Jason.]

I hope this series gains more viewers as the series goes on like CBB17 did back in January.

[armand.kay]

Of course the ratings are going to be affected by what it's up against. That's how television works.

:laugh:

[Rob!]

I hope this series gains more viewers as the series goes on like CBB17 did back in January.

I think it's unlikely considering the competition it's got this year but considering where it's been at the last two years I think it's actually not doing that badly this year. Channel 5 will be expecting it to fail against the sport and it's still up on their slot average. Not by as much as it used to be but it's still up.

[billy123]

From DS:
Inc +1 where necessary:

Would I Lie To You?: 1.95m (9.0%)
Love, Nina: 1.37m (6.3%)
The Millionaire's Holiday Club: 1.63m (7.5%)
Gogglebox: 2.59m (12.0%)
Big Brother: Live Eviction: 1.05m (5.1%)
Love Island: 725k (3.4%)

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=82701616&postcount=9471

[Firewire]

Not bad considering BBC had a slow night

[Pete.]

Not BB competing with BBC1 :clap1:

[Mrmattybeck]

This series deserves better I'm really enjoying it


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[Ross.]

2016: Romania v France: 6.66m (33.5%)
* peak: 8.58m (39.4%) at 21:45
* match average: 8.08m (38.2%)

Held up really well to stay above 1 million against the football and BBC :clap1:

[TomC]

What were the ratings for BB16's Day 4 Live show?

[Greg!]

I'm not an expert but that seems quite good considering it was up against football, love island and gogglebox

[MB.]

There was a huge amount of competition last night so that's not too awful

[crazycolaist]

Dont care about overnights, It's 2016 not 2002.

[Rob!]

That's not too bad at all.
It seems it all kicked off last night so it's annoying that tonight's ratings are going to be dire.

[Oliver_W]

How low would cancellation figures be for overnights? tbh 5% of everyone watching telly that night ain't bad at all.

[TomC]

That's not too bad at all.
It seems it all kicked off last night so it's annoying that tonight's ratings are going to be dire.

Are they really though? The football will be finished, and LI is just a recap show apparently?

[Rob!]

Are they really though? The football will be finished, and LI is just a recap show apparently?

We'll have to wait and see I guess. It seems the moaning has died down and people are actually enjoying it now.

[TomC]

We'll have to wait and see I guess. It seems the moaning has died down and people are actually enjoying it now.

The moaning on FB and tbh still on DS is just awful. It seems any minor thing the producers get wrong people will jump on .

[Jamesy]

People always moan on Facebook and people always moan on DS, so nothing new there.

The rating last night isn't too bad. It's a shame this nights highlights is set to be a good one when it's the usually the worst performing episode of the week.

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[Jason.]

Decent rating for both BB and LI last night. :clap1:

[Jason.]

And yeah DS are so annoying with their constant moaning, they're even moaning about the new set being tacky. They can go **** off if they're not happy, like it's only Day 5, give it a chance ffs.

[TomC]

Yeah they're saying it's been taken to a new level and it's now so bad it's good, people are calling it the worst series ever on DS, um hello I don't miss Armageddon and 4in4out

[Jason.]

Yeah they're saying it's been taken to a new level and it's now so bad it's good, people are calling it the worst series ever on DS, um hello I don't miss Armageddon and 4in4out

I don't take their opinions seriously tbh when they ranked BB12 as the best C5 series and BB13 as the worst series ever a few days back.

They're also unnecessarily nasty towards some of the housemates. Like the slut-shaming of Laura and that Jackson thread where they're calling him a druggie. :umm2:

[Mrmattybeck]

Ds can do one bunch of moaners [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]


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[Will.]

Not bad tbh, I mean it's 200K down on last year but it seems like a low night for everything.

[Josy]

It's up against both the football and the f1 tonight

[*mazedsalv**]

It's up against both the football and the f1 tonight

Technically, the football finishes at 9:50pm.

And BB starts at 10pm.

Either way, it's a Saturday and a lot of people will be out. It will be tragically low. But probably around 100k higher than very very low due to the hype about tonights episode.

650k? 650-800k was the norm for BB16 Saturdays I recall.

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah they're saying it's been taken to a new level and it's now so bad it's good, people are calling it the worst series ever on DS, um hello I don't miss Armageddon and 4in4out

Its pretty split in DS.

Look at the thread saying "This is going to be really controversial" (the longer one, not the shorter one as that's about Ryan), and the thread is basically everyone saying they're loving it, best on C5 etc...

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2155242

It's certainly getting more positives now, whereas launch was like 95% negative,

[jackc1806]

1.04m inc +1 (6.0%)

[Will.]

That's really good for a Saturday

Last year first Saturday only got 750K.

[jackc1806]

Decent rating last night considering it was predicted to fall flat on its arse

[Will.]

In fact that's the highest rated Saturday in the last 2 years apart from one Sat last year which got 1.10M.

One in Powe Trip got 1.05M but only had like 4% share.

[Will.]

BB15 Saturday ratings:

I've highlighted showing how this rating compares with previous years.
952K (4.8%)
898K (4%)
970K (5%)
1M (4.5%)
950K (4.4%)
950K (4.2%)
1.05M (5.2%)
898K (4.8%)
910K (4.5%)
955K (4.6%)

BB16 Saturday ratings:
750K (3.7%)
640K (3.3%)
840K (4.5%)
702K (3.9%)
950K (5%)
1.10M (6.6%)
963K (5.6%)
952K (5.6%)
897K (5.4%)

[*mazedsalv**]

Very very good there.

Highest Saturday rating since Week 7 of BB15 and before that since BB14. Oh apparently not

Makes me wonder, how will it fare this next week then? 1.3m?

[Will.]

football got like 10M

[*mazedsalv**]

football got like 10M

I'm disappointed.

I honestly expected much more considering the first game of World Cup 2014 against Italy got 14.4m on a much later 11pm-1am slot.

A lot of people watching in pubs?

[Jake.]

a good rating for a saturday :clap1:

[Will.]

I'm disappointed.

I honestly expected much more considering the first game of World Cup 2014 against Italy got 14.4m on a much later 11pm-1am slot.

A lot of people watching in pubs?

Oh wow I didn't know that WC opening game got 14.4M!

I think a lot were, I heard loads of people walking around at like 12AM last night, chanting etc.

So I presumed they had been watching at a gathering/pub or some where.

[TomC]

wow, good rating.

[*mazedsalv**]

What do we think it will get tonight?

It seems they really should move it to 10pm this year. It's against Love Island and the Germany match.

This will be telling to see how it holds up against the Euros normally.

[Will.]

I think 1.1-2M perhaps.

1.3M possibly considering last nights was a great show and should attract all those that watched last night to watch tonight.

[*mazedsalv**]

I think 1.1-2M perhaps.

1.3M possibly considering last nights was a great show and should attract all those that watched last night to watch tonight.


Probably. A lot of hype from last night can only help really. Its all down to the +1 ratings now when it's on at 9.

Start of series the +1 figures are never really over 200k. But as series progress the +1 grows. Previous CBB had only like 120k on +1 and then big events when it got ~400k.

Tonight that could happen if it's a good one

[Rob!]

970k without. That's pretty bloody good I think. Is this series capturing people?
Hasn't gone under a million with +1 since launch which is certainly more than people expected from it following it's dire launch rating.

[Jason.]

^ Yeah its retained quite a lot of it's viewers of launch night so far, which is a good thing.

[Rob!]

I think to a degree the damage is done. It's not going to go above it's launch figure but the 1.3m range is fairly decent I think. Still, it's early days yet.

[Mrmattybeck]

1-1.3m seems to be the norm for bbuk now interested to see how CBB summer rates


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[armand.kay]

I'm disappointed.

I honestly expected much more considering the first game of World Cup 2014 against Italy got 14.4m on a much later 11pm-1am slot.

A lot of people watching in pubs?

Did they make a huge mistake putting it against bb?

[Jake.]

Big Brother: 1.06m (4.9%) exc +1

[*mazedsalv**]

I hope we get the +1 rating, hopefully it's quite large with it being against the match, Love Island and the fact it was a great episode.