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arista
24-06-2016, 05:23 AM
Stop the oldies



No in England we do not let kids Vote


Feel The Force

lewis111
24-06-2016, 05:24 AM
Well, I'm 20 and know plenty of other 20 year olds that voted out. So it's 20+ deciding the future of 16 year olds, if that makes you feel any better.

75% of 18-24 year olds wanted to stay

lewis111
24-06-2016, 05:26 AM
Off you go then , I'm sure Nasty Nicola will get you sorted

Not really up to me but ok..
At least I'd get to vote in that if it did happen to decide my own future

arista
24-06-2016, 05:27 AM
75% of 18-24 year olds wanted to stay


Yes but half those Sods
never got out of bed to VOTE


Feel The Force

lewis111
24-06-2016, 05:28 AM
Yes but half those Sods
never got out of bed to VOTE


Feel The Force

That's true

But I would have if they just lowered the age to 16, and so would many more who could have voted for the first time

joeysteele
24-06-2016, 05:29 AM
I was so against Scottish Independance but after this in desperate for another refendum
I'd rather be part of EU than the UK.

If the Scots do demand another referendum and do split from the UK, which I can see realistically possibly happening now.
Scotland has voted heavily 62% to 38% in favour of remaining.

I have Scottish ancestry so would love to head further North myself.

I also could see the EU, since Scotland is a member of the EU at present as part of the UK, being fast tracked as to remaining a member of said EU.
I'd certainly prefer being part of Scotland now.

I think the UK will soon now have its own constitutional crisis after this vote,with likely difficulties in Northern Ireland too.

Cherie
24-06-2016, 05:30 AM
:Yes but half those Sods
never got out of bed to VOTE


Feel The Force

I think the leave campaign did a better job in all honesty, more leafleting, computer pop ups and as you say the oldies went out and voted.

Congrats Arista btw :D:

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 05:30 AM
Well done GREAT Britain!!!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
What a result!!! :dance::dance::dance:
Now is the time to give our Nige a Knighthood! Thank you Nigel Farage for giving me my country back!
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/farage-pint2.gif

Pete.
24-06-2016, 05:32 AM
I'm shocked at this result I thought the UK was a safe country :o

The political mess that follows will be a tad interesting

Cherie
24-06-2016, 05:32 AM
Well done GREAT Britain!!!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
What a result!!! :dance::dance::dance:
Now is the time to give our Nige a Knighthood! Thank you Nigel Farage for giving me my country back!
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/farage-pint2.gif


:joker: I wondered where you were, well done

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
24-06-2016, 05:34 AM
Can't stand bloated head Piers Morgan and his bias towards Trump.

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 05:34 AM
There's been awful consequences already!
I ****ing hate our country! Look at the how different age group voted it's 60+ year olds deciding the future of 16 year olds AGAIN ridiculous

:shrug: THIS 'oldie' has forgotten much more than you and most kids your age will ever learn.

Do you think that the 'Bright young things of the 1960's and 70's stop being bright just because they age in accordance with nature?

The greater majority of 'young people' do not even have a clue about the subjects which they are voting on - including the EU.

'Roamer phone charges' have been THE deciding issue for some 'young ones'.

Do not disrespect people just because they have - naturally - grown older, because ageing is something that all too rapidly will come to you.

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 05:34 AM
Well Farage has just said the money sent to the EU every week will NOT be going to the NHS as people were led to believe ,so the lies begin

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 05:36 AM
Hope you are right Kirk, where's Johnny123 I thought he would be in here :cheer2:

I'm here Cherie!v:wavey:
Amazing result I feel on top of the world!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
24-06-2016, 05:36 AM
Well done GREAT Britain!!!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
What a result!!! :dance::dance::dance:
Now is the time to give our Nige a Knighthood! Thank you Nigel Farage for giving me my country back!
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/farage-pint2.gif

You heard about the pound yet? Worst since 1985. China wants to stop trade and Scotland and Ireland want to shaft GREAT Britain.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
24-06-2016, 05:37 AM
Well Farage has just said the money sent to the EU every week will NOT be going to the NHS as people were led to believe ,so the lies begin

Of course. Tell the people what they want to hear then begin carnage once they've given you what you want.

Cherie
24-06-2016, 05:37 AM
I'm here Cherie!v:wavey:
Amazing result I feel on top of the world!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:


Well done though I feel more like this :sad:

lewis111
24-06-2016, 05:37 AM
:shrug: THIS 'oldie' has forgotten much more than you and most kids your age will ever learn.

Do you think that the 'Bright young things of the 1960's and 70's stop being bright just because they age in accordance with nature?

The greater majority of 'young people' do not even have a clue about the subjects which they are voting on - including the EU.

'Roamer phone charges' have been THE deciding issue for some 'young ones'.

Do not disrespect people just because they have - naturally - grown older, because ageing is something that all too rapidly will come to you.

I'm not disrespecting anyone? I'm not saying people over a certain age shouldn't be allowed to vote or anything

I'm just obviously annoyed that the young people who will be living in this country, finding jobs, buying houses, paying taxes, will have to do it in a non-EU country which is clearly not what the majority's of us wanted

lewis111
24-06-2016, 05:38 AM
You heard about the pound yet? Worst since 1985. China wants to stop trade and Scotland and Ireland want to shaft GREAT Britain.

well yea but LESS IMMIGRANTS :cheer2:

Shaun
24-06-2016, 05:38 AM
Well Farage has just said the money sent to the EU every week will NOT be going to the NHS as people were led to believe ,so the lies begin

Got a feeling there's going to be a lot of "I told you so"s in the coming weeks from those who've lost tonight :p

arista
24-06-2016, 05:38 AM
That's true

But I would have if they just lowered the age to 16, and so would many more who could have voted for the first time



Yes the PM was torn on that

Pete.
24-06-2016, 05:39 AM
Well Farage has just said the money sent to the EU every week will NOT be going to the NHS as people were led to believe ,so the lies begin
Farage isn't an MP so hopefully the decent MPs see sense and use the money to fund our struggling NHS and state schools

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
24-06-2016, 05:39 AM
well yea but LESS IMMIGRANTS :cheer2:

Obviously. This is all that matters.

arista
24-06-2016, 05:39 AM
I'm here Cherie!v:wavey:
Amazing result I feel on top of the world!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:



Its a Spiffing Day

Pete.
24-06-2016, 05:39 AM
Honestly DC kicked himself in the foot by not lowering the voting age for this referendum

billy123
24-06-2016, 05:39 AM
Got a feeling there's going to be a lot of "I told you so"s in the coming weeks from those who've lost tonight :pOh well.

Shaun
24-06-2016, 05:40 AM
Indeed

arista
24-06-2016, 05:40 AM
Well done GREAT Britain!!!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
What a result!!! :dance::dance::dance:
Now is the time to give our Nige a Knighthood! Thank you Nigel Farage for giving me my country back!
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/farage-pint2.gif


He Was just Live on GMBHD

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 05:41 AM
Well done though I feel more like this :sad:

Aww don't feel sad Cherie because today is the first day where we begin to put this Country and it's great people first.:wavey:

arista
24-06-2016, 05:42 AM
Honestly DC kicked himself in the foot by not lowering the voting age for this referendum


Yes that may have saved him

joeysteele
24-06-2016, 05:42 AM
Actually although it grieves me to say this, Nigel Farage has fought long and hard to bring this referendum into being.
It was pressure from him and his leadership of UKIP that forced the govt to offer this vote.
No doubt about that.

I do not know about a general election but I do feel really,that a fresh mandate as to selecting who should be negotiating a deal now as to leaving needs to be looked at.
Firstly at the very least it should be an all party negotiating team as there could even be a general election held before the deal is even concluded.

For me too, because of his determination in bringing this about, Farage should along with his party, have a say as to such negotiations too.

I agree with Pete too, the 16 and 17 year olds should have had a vote on this and also it should have had a lock as to majority to make the vote binding on the govt.
That is history now however, the pro EU side of the govt failed to grasp the mood of England and indeed Wales too.

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 05:43 AM
He Was just Live on GMBHD

I love him arista! If they don't give him a Knighthood for giving the people their country back it will speak volumes of the corrupt elite.:fist:

arista
24-06-2016, 05:44 AM
I love him arista! If they don't give him a Knighthood for giving the people their country back it will speak volumes of the corrupt elite.:fist:


Yes thats why so many Labour Voters voted Leave

VanessaFeltz.
24-06-2016, 05:45 AM
good luck to uk!

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 05:47 AM
I'm not disrespecting anyone? I'm not saying people over a certain age shouldn't be allowed to vote or anything

I'm just obviously annoyed that the young people who will be living in this country, finding jobs, buying houses, paying taxes, will have to do it in a non-EU country which is clearly not what the majority's of us wanted

So the greater majority of the UK voted to LEAVE the EU - people of all political persuasions, all age groups, all with differing IQ and knowledge levels, but you KNOW better?

Without googling - tell me:

a) What The Rotterdam Effect is.
b) Whether the Uk has a positive trade balance with the EU or a deficit?
c) What is the mean average of our Gross Annual contribution to the EU?
d) What monumental benefit did Margaret Thatcher win from the EU in 1984?
e) What is the unfair anomoly in Britains EU Fishing quota?

Need I continue?

Scarlett.
24-06-2016, 05:48 AM
Aww don't feel sad Cherie because today is the first day where we begin to put this Country and it's great people first.:wavey:

Which country? Scotland will be calling for another referendum, Ireland is gonna become a really messy affair all over again, it feels like this is the end of the UK.

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 05:48 AM
good luck to uk!

Thank you MelihV.

Ammi
24-06-2016, 05:50 AM
..I can't say that I'm feeling the same as the Brexiters this morning and I don't think congratulations is appropriate as such because this was never an individual/personal thing or a win/lose type thing...all I can say as that what all Brexiters are feeling this morning..?../I hope with all of my heart that it's a feeling that we'll all have and have reason to have with this decision both in the coming and far future...

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 05:50 AM
I love him arista! If they don't give him a Knighthood for giving the people their country back it will speak volumes of the corrupt elite.:fist:

He is the most honest politician in the UK and the best orator.

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 05:51 AM
Which country? Scotland will be calling for another referendum, Ireland is gonna become a really messy affair all over again, it feels like this is the end of the UK.

We already knew this before the vote came in Chewy. If they want to go then let them. That's their choice.:wavey:

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 05:51 AM
Got a feeling there's going to be a lot of "I told you so"s in the coming weeks from those who've lost tonight :p

I'm sure of it,we will also lose the union soon too,by the looks of things

arista
24-06-2016, 05:51 AM
Come On Dave

Go live

Smithy
24-06-2016, 05:51 AM
He is the most honest politician in the UK and the best orator.

No he isn't, he lied about being able to spend £350 million a week on the NHS :joker:

arista
24-06-2016, 05:52 AM
We already knew this before the vote came in Chewy. If they want to go then let them. That's their choice.:wavey:



Bang On Right


Its their Problem
not ours

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 05:52 AM
He is the most honest politician in the UK and the best orator.

No Kirk :fist: Nigel is way much more than that... he is a God among God's! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

arista
24-06-2016, 05:54 AM
No he isn't, he lied about being able to spend £350 million a week on the NHS :joker:


That was Boris on his Bus


Not Nigel

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 05:55 AM
Bang On Right


Its their Problem
not ours

I'm not a big drinker arista but tonight i am getting absolutely pissed to celebrate this wonderful historic moment! :thumbs: :party:

Shaun
24-06-2016, 05:55 AM
I can't tell if I'm sleep-deprived and my eyes are making Johnny's signature move or if it's actually a very fancy gif :suspect:

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 05:56 AM
I love him arista! If they don't give him a Knighthood for giving the people their country back it will speak volumes of the corrupt elite.:fist:

Well in reality,Farage didn't give us our country back,David Cameron did,HE called the referendum, Farage has already backtracked on money that went to the EU would be going to the NHS, saying that was a mistake !!! :fist:

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 05:57 AM
I can't tell if I'm sleep-deprived and my eyes are making Johnny's signature move or if it's actually a very fancy gif :suspect:

Yes it's the lack of sleep Shaun.:wavey:

lewis111
24-06-2016, 05:57 AM
Can people not see the country is completely ****ed all ready? Stop being so smug and realise the country messed up so bad

arista
24-06-2016, 05:58 AM
I can't tell if I'm sleep-deprived and my eyes are making Johnny's signature move or if it's actually a very fancy gif :suspect:


Thats why I have No Sig's on view


You can click the Feckers away

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 05:58 AM
That was Boris on his Bus


Not Nigel

It's still a lie arista one of many I think.

jaxie
24-06-2016, 05:58 AM
..I can't say that I'm feeling the same as the Brexiters this morning and I don't think congratulations is appropriate as such because this was never an individual/personal thing or a win/lose type thing...all I can say as that what all Brexiters are feeling this morning..?../I hope with all of my heart that it's a feeling that we'll all have and have reason to have with this decision both in the coming and far future...

I know it's scary Ammi and like all divorces there are going to be some bumpy moments but it really will be OK. There are many countries in the world who get along fine without being part of the EU. We will too. I understand how you feel because last night before the first result was in they were already talking a remain win and I felt so crushed and disappointed. I get that is pretty much how those who wanted to remain feel today. But we can do this!

arista
24-06-2016, 05:59 AM
It's still a lie arista one of many I think.



No its the right amount but without the refund in it.

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 06:00 AM
I know it's scary Ammi and like all divorces there are going to be some bumpy moments but it really will be OK. There are many countries in the world who get along fine without being part of the EU. We will too. I understand how you feel because last night before the first result was in they were already talking a remain win and I felt so crushed and disappointed. I get that is pretty much how those who wanted to remain feel today. But we can do this!

I could not agree more. Well said Jaxie! :thumbs:

Dollface
24-06-2016, 06:00 AM
Can people not see the country is completely ****ed all ready? Stop being so smug and realise the country messed up so bad

Give it time for goodness sake... So dramatic

Josy
24-06-2016, 06:01 AM
746169190512467969

Glad to see the leave campaign got what they wanted :clap1:

The pound was always predicted to fall at first, it'll settle.

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:01 AM
So the greater majority of the UK voted to LEAVE the EU - people of all political persuasions, all age groups, all with differing IQ and knowledge levels, but you KNOW better?

Without googling - tell me:

a) What The Rotterdam Effect is.
b) Whether the Uk has a positive trade balance with the EU or a deficit?
c) What is the mean average of our Gross Annual contribution to the EU?
d) What monumental benefit did Margaret Thatcher win from the EU in 1984?
e) What is the unfair anomoly in Britains EU Fishing quota?

Need I continue?

None of that matters when the statics shows more young people wanted to stay? The people who will be living in this country for next however many years

I honestly believe that should most be the most important factor, but hey ho the majority have spoken

billy123
24-06-2016, 06:01 AM
Can people not see the country is completely ****ed all ready? Stop being so smug and realise the country messed up so bad
:joker: This is why kids arent allowed to vote.

_Tom_
24-06-2016, 06:02 AM
You heard about the pound yet? Worst since 1985. China wants to stop trade and Scotland and Ireland want to shaft GREAT Britain.

The Remain camp need to take some responsibility for the drop in the pound after months of constantly talking down the country and economy.

hijaxers
24-06-2016, 06:02 AM
Its a Spiffing Day

I vote for a new Bank Holiday June 23rd Independence day

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 06:03 AM
The pound was always predicted to fall at first, it'll settle.

Thank you Josy - it has just 'stabilised against the dollar'.

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 06:04 AM
No its the right amount but without the refund in it.

NHS wont get any for at least 2 years and Farage himself said it was a mistake for the leave campaign to say that the money would go to the NHS,even after 2 years they are not guaranteed that,so they lied.

hijaxers
24-06-2016, 06:05 AM
None of that matters when the statics shows more young people wanted to stay? The people who will be living in this country for next however many years

I honestly believe that should most be the most important factor, but hey ho the majority have spoken

If none of that matters what was the point of the bloody vote then ? Some of us having been waiting over 20 yrs to get this vote .

Ammi
24-06-2016, 06:10 AM
I know it's scary Ammi and like all divorces there are going to be some bumpy moments but it really will be OK. There are many countries in the world who get along fine without being part of the EU. We will too. I understand how you feel because last night before the first result was in they were already talking a remain win and I felt so crushed and disappointed. I get that is pretty much how those who wanted to remain feel today. But we can do this!

...I guess that I'm thinking more of the children of divorces, Jaxie and the damage to them...but I want so much to be wrong in my concerns...one thing for sure though, the divorce can only work if both parents only have those children's interests at heart before their own and their own feelings...so whatever our feelings today and whatever our political opinions etc...we are one now/all of us.. because if we are not, then I really do feel a very bleak future....

Jake.
24-06-2016, 06:11 AM
I hope the pound does settle (what with the type of businessI work in) :worry:

But yeah we left it to a vote and this is what the majority has decided, so I don't have much else to say really... Democracy and all that

(I was in though)

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:11 AM
NHS wont get any for at least 2 years and Farage himself said it was a mistake for the leave campaign to say that the money would go to the NHS,even after 2 years they are not guaranteed that,so they lied.

It's only been what 2 hours as well and we've screwed over by them. Wonder what else they lied about during this campaign to manipulate the country

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 06:13 AM
It's only been what 2 hours as well and we've screwed over by them. Wonder what else they lied about during this campaign to manipulate the country

it's going to be interesting to see this unfold.

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:13 AM
...I guess that I'm thinking more of the children of divorces, Jaxie and the damage to them...but I want so much to be wrong in my concerns...one thing for sure though, the divorce can only work if both parents only have those children's interests at heart before their own and their own feelings...so whatever our feelings today and whatever our political opinions etc...we are one now/all of us.. because if we are not, then I really do feel a very bleak future....

:love: perfect way to word what I think all remain voters are worried about :love:

However I can't see the country uniting after this Scotland will be gone by 2020 and Norther Ireland could follow

Pete.
24-06-2016, 06:15 AM
Instead of blaming the oldies who actually bother to vote maybe the blame should be placed on the apathetic young people? Nothing wrong with exercising a democratic right

arista
24-06-2016, 06:17 AM
Instead of blaming the oldies who actually bother to vote maybe the blame should be placed on the apathetic young people? Nothing wrong with exercising a democratic right


Bang On Right

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:18 AM
But clearly the majority of the younger generation agrees with the older generation anyway. Not all young people wanted to remain. And the way you said it was very rude, I know you're bitter about the outcome but you could still have some respect for your elders.

3 quarters of young people wanted to remain so no the majority did not agree

And (can't speak for everyone obviously) but we do respect our elders, we just wish they would respect us and be like "hmm those young people want to remain, the people who will be growing up in this country and getting jobs and living an adult life maybe I should just support them" seeing as either way it wouldn't effect elder people too much as they are probably not working, less likely to buy another house etc

billy123
24-06-2016, 06:18 AM
Instead of blaming the oldies who actually bother to vote maybe the blame should be placed to the apathetic young people? Nothing wrong with exercising a democratic rightAnd that Pete is why i have respect for you even if we rarely agree when it comes to BB you at least think about what you post.
Im not really an oldie either btw.

Cherie
24-06-2016, 06:18 AM
:love: perfect way to word what I think all remain voters are worried about :love:

However I can't see the country uniting after this Scotland will be gone by 2020 and Norther Ireland could follow


I feel you are right and the UK will fracture now, but the majority voted for Little England so be it! Let's see how it all pans out

Kizzy
24-06-2016, 06:21 AM
Well when it all goes belly up and it will don't forget I told you so, stupid backwards decision from a stupid backwards country.

arista
24-06-2016, 06:22 AM
Well when it all goes belly up and it will don't forget I told you so, stupid backwards decision from a stupid backwards country.



No its Democracy

Dollface
24-06-2016, 06:22 AM
3 quarters of young people wanted to remain so no the majority did not agree

And (can't speak for everyone obviously) but we do respect our elders, we just wish they would respect us and be like "hmm those young people want to remain, the people who will be growing up in this country and getting jobs and living an adult life maybe I should just support them" seeing as either way it wouldn't effect elder people too much as they are probably not working, less likely to buy another house etc

It's not only "oldies" that vote. A lot of 20 year olds helped with the leave outcome. Older people don't owe you anything... It's selfish to think they should vote in just because YOU want them to.

Kizzy
24-06-2016, 06:24 AM
No its Democracy

Stupid backwards democratic decision.

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 06:24 AM
You can bet some just voted to leave to get rid of Cameron,to hell with the country, Cameron was leaving anyway so to gamble on the future of the country is ludicrous and imo stupid.

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:30 AM
It's not only "oldies" that vote. A lot of 20 year olds helped with the leave outcome. Older people don't owe you anything... It's selfish to think they should vote in just because YOU want them to.

Ok them I'm selfish! I'll take that! If wanting my age group who will be working in and for his country and giving to the economy paying taxes (everything I've said) to get what they want is selfish, then yea I Am but it's completely reasonable as WE ARE THE ONES LIVING IN THE COUNTRY FOR UP YO THW NEXT 80 YEARS

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 06:30 AM
Remain supporters are such sore, bitter losers. :joker:

I'm not bitter or a sore loser,i have young children and wanted a better future for them,so I think that the wrong decision was made imo,that is not bitter or a sore loser it is my opinion,The leave campaign has already been caught out lying to get votes so not a good start:smug:

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:31 AM
Remain supporters are such sore, bitter losers. :joker:

If the pound has climbed in value and Japan hadn't halted trade, and the young people who will fave the consequences of the cjmage got what they wanted
then I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be as bitter

Dollface
24-06-2016, 06:31 AM
Ok them I'm selfish! I'll take that! If wanting my age group who will be working in and for his country and giving to the economy paying taxes (everything I've said) to get what they want is selfish, then yea I Am but it's completely reasonable as WE ARE THE ONES LIVING IN THE COUNTRY FOR UP YO THW NEXT 80 YEARS

You're just demonstrating exactly why children aren't allowed to vote.

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 06:32 AM
The Remain camp need to take some responsibility for the drop in the pound after months of constantly talking down the country and economy.

It is pure Baloney Tom - people are so gullible.

For months, the Remain camp and their expert 'Economists' have been in agreement that "No changes will happen quickly if we Brexit" and that "It will take at least 2 years", but NOW sterling falls and the markets collapse IMMEDIATELY?

Why should that be?

Perhaps those responsible belong to the same school of stupidity that David Cameron belongs to - you know? The guy that spends £2 Billion of Uk taxpayers money on accelerating Turkey's accession to the EU, whilst he is telling us at the same tme that "Turkey has NO chance of joining the EU" and that it will be "At least 3 to 4 decades before Turkey is allowed to join".

Incidentally, Cameron could have WAITED until AFTER the referendum to spend that £2 Billion, because now it has been wasted.

Anyway, back to the markets and sterling - they will recover, but only AFTER traders and informed speculators have made billions from betting on those DELIBERATELY MANIPULATED fluctuations in sterling and the markets.

Just as the Scots ALWAYS intended to hold another referendum on devolution and have OPPORTUNISTICALLY seized this referendum result to do so, , the Money speculators have seized this referendum result to manipulate the markets and sterling in order to make their killing.

Finally, all the sour grapes screaming alarmists who are weeping and wailing because the pound has dropped a few points from a HIGH of $1.50, should remember that the Pound was ONCE worth 4 DOLLARS - but that was decades ago, and we have LIVED with it being half of that or worse ever since. The UK did not collapse.

They are full of shet.

Liberty4eva
24-06-2016, 06:32 AM
Happy re-birthday Great Britain!

jaxie
24-06-2016, 06:34 AM
I feel you are right and the UK will fracture now, but the majority voted for Little England so be it! Let's see how it all pans out

I absolutely hate that term 'little Englander'. I view leaving the EU as leaving a closed club for the wider world. There is nothing little about it. Can we start today by stopping the implications that Brexiters are all inward looking racists? I don't see those of us who wanted to leave mud slinging and name calling and it would be very nice if the remain side would cut it out now. I don't think that kind of thing really does anyone much credit.

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:35 AM
You're just demonstrating exactly why children aren't allowed to vote.

Cause I want to decide my own future rather than have others decide it for me? That's why I can't vote

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 06:35 AM
Stupid backwards democratic decision.

GRAPES and SOUR? :laugh:

Shaun
24-06-2016, 06:38 AM
The Remain camp need to take some responsibility for the drop in the pound after months of constantly talking down the country and economy.

lmfaoooooooooo

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 06:39 AM
I'm so happy! Nigel will be on a much deserved massive bender now! I'll be joining him tonight and raise a toast to this wonderful decent honest man who has proved he IS the VOICE of the people! Well done Nige! :cheer2:

_Tom_
24-06-2016, 06:40 AM
Cameron statement @ 8.15am on Sky News.

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:40 AM
Can people stop calling us bitter when we are just pointing out clear facts like the economy has gone tits up already and the Leave campaign have been called out on lies

arista
24-06-2016, 06:41 AM
The PM is Live at 8:15AM

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 06:41 AM
Actually although it grieves me to say this, Nigel Farage has fought long and hard to bring this referendum into being.
It was pressure from him and his leadership of UKIP that forced the govt to offer this vote.
No doubt about that.

I do not know about a general election but I do feel really,that a fresh mandate as to selecting who should be negotiating a deal now as to leaving needs to be looked at.
Firstly at the very least it should be an all party negotiating team as there could even be a general election held before the deal is even concluded.

For me too, because of his determination in bringing this about, Farage should along with his party, have a say as to such negotiations too.

I agree with Pete too, the 16 and 17 year olds should have had a vote on this and also it should have had a lock as to majority to make the vote binding on the govt.
That is history now however, the pro EU side of the govt failed to grasp the mood of England and indeed Wales too.

If only ALL the losing 'Remainers' were as decent and gracious as you Joey. I know we have often been at loggerheads on here, but I do GENUINELY like and respect you.

Thank you.

Alf
24-06-2016, 06:42 AM
Does anybody have directions for Downing Street?


http://www.britishroadservices.talktalk.net/images/Pic%203.JPG

Dollface
24-06-2016, 06:42 AM
Can people stop calling us bitter when we are just pointing out clear facts like the economy has gone tits up already and the Leave campaign have been called out on lies

You aren't just pointing out facts, some of you are being rude and disrespectful towards the older generation just because you didn't get your own way and want someone to blame.

Anyway, I'm going to get some shut eye. Carry on carrying on.

user104658
24-06-2016, 06:48 AM
http://i67.tinypic.com/xeh4cg.jpg

... just sayin'

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 06:48 AM
Well when it all goes belly up and it will don't forget I told you so, stupid backwards decision from a stupid backwards country.

So DEMOCRACY is exercised and all of a sudden, this is a "stupid backwards country" full of "stupid backward people"?

Obviously your opinion weighs more heavily than that of 17,410,742 other British Citizens?

:shrug:

Unfortunately, you are - like the rest of us - but a mere passenger on the good ship HMS Great Britain, NOT the Captain.

Headie
24-06-2016, 06:48 AM
I'm so happy! Nigel will be on a much deserved massive bender now! I'll be joining him tonight and raise a toast to this wonderful decent honest man who has proved he IS the VOICE of the people! Well done Nige! :cheer2:

https://i2.wp.com/38.media.tumblr.com/9aca15e76e0dd1e02e1f97b1d7021b68/tumblr_nasf3bKW361qf9mevo1_500.gif

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 06:49 AM
Does anybody have directions for Downing Street?


http://www.britishroadservices.talktalk.net/images/Pic%203.JPG

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

joeysteele
24-06-2016, 06:50 AM
I'm not bitter or a sore loser,i have young children and wanted a better future for them,so I think that the wrong decision was made imo,that is not bitter or a sore loser it is my opinion,The leave campaign has already been caught out lying to get votes so not a good start:smug:

I accept the vote obviously but will re-think very carefully if I even remain in the UK now.

I am 24,I see my future in a Nation that is part of the EU,I have no wish to see the fragmentation of the EU, I think that would be bad for the World never mind just Europe.
I also really believe a good number of voters voted believing in something different than what they will in the end get as promised by the leave campaign.
Time will tell of course but my optimism is very low.

I am looking at what Scotland now does but it would really be a major disaster now too if as a result of this vote,the UK itself fragments as well.
It will not even be Great Britain anymore either if Scotland eventually breaks from the UK.
I agree wholeheartedly with your position on this Kazanne.
Anything other than an all party plan for the negotiations will be unacceptable to me and should be unacceptable generally too,no way should Boris Johnson or just those wishing to leave, be just the ones now to take on the negotiating role of leaving either.

Full credit to those wanting to leave however for their endless and great efforts to bring this result about.

arista
24-06-2016, 06:52 AM
Corybn is live on SkyNewsHD now


http://news.sky.com/watch-live

Live Feed for kizzy

arista
24-06-2016, 06:54 AM
Joey you are a Young Man

Corbyn has accepted the result
thats good of him

lewis111
24-06-2016, 06:56 AM
I know I'm not Making points very well but basically I'm just worried for my own and many others future
We had security in the EU now I have no idea how this will turn out apart from looking at all the facts saying the pound has dropped rapidly in value and countries want to cut off trade with UK and the leave campaign was built on lies.
It's more fear I feel than anger or biterness

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 06:56 AM
I accept the vote obviously but will re-think very carefully if I even remain in the UK now.

I am 24,I see my future in a Nation that is part of the EU,I have no wish to see the fragmentation of the EU, I think that would be bad for the World never mind just Europe.
I also really believe a good number of voters voted believing in something different than what they will in the end get as promised by the leave campaign.
Time will tell of course but my optimism is very low.

I am looking at what Scotland now does but it would really be a major disaster now too if as a result of this vote,the UK itself fragments as well.
It will not even be Great Britain anymore either if Scotland eventually breaks from the UK.
I agree wholeheartedly with your position on this Kazanne.
Anything other than an all party plan for the negotiations will be unacceptable to me and should be unacceptable generally too,no way should Boris Johnson or just those wishing to leave, be just the ones now to take on the negotiating role of leaving either.

I can see Scotland and maybe Ireland wanting to be independent aswell Joey,that leaves us as not so great anymore, farage has already admitted what was said about money going to the NHS as a 'mistake' makes you wonder how many other 'mistakes' have been made, as for Boris,I really don't want him in charge either.

arista
24-06-2016, 06:57 AM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/7/17/323836/default/v2/p025978000302-199279-1-736x414.jpg

The PM and Corrupt EU leader Tusk
last year

They will meet on Tuesday.

joeysteele
24-06-2016, 06:58 AM
Joey you are a Young Man

Corbyn has accepted the result
thats good of him

Well I do think this is the result he wanted anyway really,he has disappointed me in this campaign except for some rare moments.

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 06:58 AM
I know I'm not Making points very well but basically I'm just worried for my own and many others future
We had security in the EU now I have no idea how this will turn out apart from looking at all the facts saying the pound has dropped rapidly in value and countries want to cut off trade with UK and the leave campaign was built on lies.
It's more fear I feel than anger or biterness

It's nice your even interested lewis,i am with you on this,our young ones had a better future had we remained,nothing wrong with being passionate about your beliefs.

AnnieK
24-06-2016, 06:58 AM
Im a little shell shocked this morning at the result....I flip flopped between in and out a lot but am genuinely surprised by the result and a little worried as we are now in unkown territory. What will be will be but I think we're in for a bumpy ride

arista
24-06-2016, 07:01 AM
Well I do think this is the result he wanted anyway really,he has disappointed me in this campaign except for some rare moments.


Yes in Secret maybe.


I understand why he refused to stand with
the Conservative PM
on his values , etc

Black Dagger
24-06-2016, 07:01 AM
Went to bed half way through in the end. I'm devastated :sad:

Alf
24-06-2016, 07:02 AM
Joey you are a Young Man

Corbyn has accepted the result
thats good of himI think Corbyn is delighted with the result.

I think he could do very well out of this.

arista
24-06-2016, 07:03 AM
Im a little shell shocked this morning at the result....I flip flopped between in and out a lot but am genuinely surprised by the result and a little worried as we are now in unkown territory. What will be will be but I think we're in for a bumpy ride


There was alot in the same boat as you Madam

arista
24-06-2016, 07:04 AM
Went to bed half way through in the end. I'm devastated :sad:


Its Democracy


Move On Fella

lewis111
24-06-2016, 07:07 AM
Its Democracy


Move On Fella

This is greatly going to effect his life and country he's allowed to care about it

user104658
24-06-2016, 07:07 AM
I know I'm not Making points very well but basically I'm just worried for my own and many others future
We had security in the EU now I have no idea how this will turn out apart from looking at all the facts saying the pound has dropped rapidly in value and countries want to cut off trade with UK and the leave campaign was built on lies.
It's more fear I feel than anger or biterness

You're perfectly justified in your worries; I share a lot of them. The problem is the same as after the Scottish Indy referendum... A lot of people with puffed chests unable to distinguish between a political vote and a football match, to busy crowing that "they won!!" and using frankly ridiculous terms like "sour grapes" to shut down any further political discussion and perfectly valid concerns. "Sour grapes" indeed. Whilst accusing others of being immature? :shrug:

Black Dagger
24-06-2016, 07:07 AM
And lmao at the 'bitter remain voters' yeah, woo @ my future being ****ed up and having to endure cries of 'NIGEL IS A DECENT MAN, FOR THE PEOPLE WOOOOOO' **** that.

arista
24-06-2016, 07:09 AM
This is greatly going to effect his life and country he's allowed to care about it

Yes Of Course



It will Get Better

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 07:12 AM
I do hope the 'oldies' as they are called on here realise their pensions will be hammered,holidays will be more expensive etc,Sky news now exposing some of the leaves BS.

Jake.
24-06-2016, 07:14 AM
We've turned into such a hateful and bitter country and this just furthers that

Johnnyuk123
24-06-2016, 07:15 AM
So DEMOCRACY is exercised and all of a sudden, this is a "stupid backwards country" full of "stupid backward people"?

Obviously your opinion weighs more heavily than that of 17,410,742 other British Citizens?

:shrug:

Unfortunately, you are - like the rest of us - but a mere passenger on the good ship HMS Great Britain, NOT the Captain.

Kirk can you please delete some of your messages from your inbox cos i'm trying to message you and i can't cos your inbox is full. :wavey:

Alf
24-06-2016, 07:15 AM
Strong rumours he's gonna resign

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 07:18 AM
Strong rumours he's gonna resign

I hope not,he gave people the referendum so those who are happy with the results should be grateful for that at least,he is a good PM imo, he was leaving anyway so hope he does it in his own time.

Jake.
24-06-2016, 07:19 AM
And lmao at the 'bitter remain voters' yeah, woo @ my future being ****ed up and having to endure cries of 'NIGEL IS A DECENT MAN, FOR THE PEOPLE WOOOOOO' **** that.

Bring on the Katie Hopkins civilisation!

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 07:19 AM
Cameron resignation?

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 07:20 AM
Live now

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 07:20 AM
Cameron resignation?

I bloody hope not LT

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 07:21 AM
He is speaking and Sam cam is there. Welp

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 07:22 AM
He is speaking and Sam cam is there. Welp

This is quite a sad day

zakman440
24-06-2016, 07:23 AM
Cameron's resigned.

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 07:23 AM
Resignation

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 07:24 AM
Nigel for pm

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 07:25 AM
Quite a day

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 07:25 AM
Good speech ,good PM,Bad decision to leave

Black Dagger
24-06-2016, 07:26 AM
I don't ****ing like him. But the alternative is so much worse.

I'm getting more and more angry.

armand.kay
24-06-2016, 07:28 AM
Yeah don't know how I feel about that :/ I mean this is all messy enough without having to get a new prime minister...

arista
24-06-2016, 07:29 AM
Good speech ,good PM,Bad decision to leave


To be Fair
he does not want to do the Out Of EU , himself.


So stepping Down in 3 months
is fair play

arista
24-06-2016, 07:31 AM
I don't ****ing like him. But the alternative is so much worse.

I'm getting more and more angry.


We do not Know who is Picked Yet
they Vote for a MP

Black Dagger
24-06-2016, 07:35 AM
Is it really going to be anybody other than Boris though...

T*
24-06-2016, 07:35 AM
Japan has halted trading

746195393587748864



-starts pulling hair-

T*
24-06-2016, 07:36 AM
Nigel for pm



Not gonna happen tbh

Braden
24-06-2016, 07:44 AM
I'm happy David Cameron has resigned because I can't stand him quite frankly. Disgusting excuse of a man and a leader.

Sadly the new PM will likely be someone equally as bad, if not worse.

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 07:46 AM
I take it this means that our Irish mods will now be relieved of their duties?

:think:

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 07:55 AM
Is it really going to be anybody other than Boris though...

http://eveningharold.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/6a00d8341bf8f353ef017eeacb1b2e970d.jpg

Ninastar
24-06-2016, 07:58 AM
hate to say it but that made me LOL LT

Alf
24-06-2016, 07:58 AM
Is Osborne gonna follow suit?

Cal.
24-06-2016, 07:59 AM
Can we NOT have Nigel he's racist?

user104658
24-06-2016, 08:00 AM
Can we NOT have Nigel he's racist?

He's probably a good fit, given that the vote hinged almost entirely on people's fear of the Other (no matter what people would like us to believe).

Cal.
24-06-2016, 08:04 AM
They should let the Green Party run the country I'm here for the pro-animals and environment

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:04 AM
They should let the Green Party run the country I'm here for the pro-animals and environment

they cant even run their party

Livia
24-06-2016, 08:05 AM
He's probably a good fit, given that the vote hinged almost entirely on people's fear of the Other (no matter what people would like us to believe).

Oh yeah... everyone voted blindly because they couldn't understand what was going on. Except you of course, TS. You always have the right answer.

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:05 AM
or Brighton

Livia
24-06-2016, 08:06 AM
or Brighton

Oh God yes, Brighton. A lesson in how not to govern.

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:06 AM
Oh yeah... everyone voted blindly because they couldn't understand what was going on. Except you of course, TS. You always have the right answer.

:joker:

letmein
24-06-2016, 08:08 AM
Britain will now no longer have any power politically or economically on the world stage. Amazing.

Liberty4eva
24-06-2016, 08:11 AM
Honestly, if people were after their self-interest, it should have been 80-20 Leave. 52-48 is way too close for comfort when it comes to national freedom and you have to give credit to the other side's skill at muddying the waters. But, as the saying goes, a win is a win.

Northern Monkey
24-06-2016, 08:13 AM
Not opened my curtains yet.Is everything still ok out there?Have all them immigrunts gone yet?

(:joker: just joking btw before that ban hammer comes back out)

arista
24-06-2016, 08:16 AM
Honestly, if people were after their self-interest, it should have been 80-20 Leave. 52-48 is way too close for comfort when it comes to national freedom and you have to give credit to the other side's skill at muddying the waters. But, as the saying goes, a win is a win.

Yes well Over a Million Votes
ahead.

Win is a Win

Liberty4eva
24-06-2016, 08:18 AM
I'm still looking at Sky News and it is stocks this, currency that. Stocks go up and down all the time. There is more to life than dollars and cents. Last night I saw country fed up with the direction its leaders were taking it and decided to change the course. That ought to be the story.

arista
24-06-2016, 08:19 AM
Not opened my curtains yet.Is everything still ok out there?Have all them immigrunts gone yet?

(:joker: just joking btw before that ban hammer comes back out)


No they have Gone to Work

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:19 AM
Britain will now no longer have any power politically or economically on the world stage. Amazing.

:joker:

And your evidence for this is?

user104658
24-06-2016, 08:20 AM
Oh yeah... everyone voted blindly because they couldn't understand what was going on. Except you of course, TS. You always have the right answer.
Hinged on. Read better :nono:

Liberty4eva
24-06-2016, 08:21 AM
Britain will now no longer have any power politically or economically on the world stage. Amazing.

Patriots around the world are saluting the UK.

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:22 AM
First the Tories win

Then Nigel Wins


When will Donald?

Liberty4eva
24-06-2016, 08:23 AM
First the Tories win

Then Nigel Wins


When will Donald?

Soon. We're working on that. :hee:

user104658
24-06-2016, 08:23 AM
:joker:

And your evidence for this is?
As a solo entity we have very little going for us. No resources, no industry, sub par educational standards.

What is there on offer other than the City which, let's face it, is far less interesting to the wider world if it isn't a European hub?

bots
24-06-2016, 08:24 AM
it looks like Corbyn's days are numbered now to. There are "rumours" of a no confidence letter from his cabinet.

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:26 AM
As a solo entity we have very little going for us. No resources, no industry, sub par educational standards.

What is there on offer other than the City which, let's face it, is far less interesting to the wider world if it isn't a European hub?

What resources are you referring to and what Industry?

Kazanne
24-06-2016, 08:28 AM
Is it really going to be anybody other than Boris though...

Boris got exactly what he wanted,bloody turncoat

lewis111
24-06-2016, 08:31 AM
France has overtaken UK as worlds 5th largest economy

user104658
24-06-2016, 08:31 AM
What resources are you referring to and what Industry?
Exactly.

Northern Monkey
24-06-2016, 08:36 AM
GRAPES and SOUR? :laugh:

:joker:

arista
24-06-2016, 08:37 AM
France has overtaken UK as worlds 5th largest economy


Only for a while

lewis111
24-06-2016, 08:37 AM
Only for a while

Hopefully, it's just a waiting game now to see if the effects last

arista
24-06-2016, 08:39 AM
Boris had to Rush to his Car


As Locals who voted Remain were
were shaking his Car and Shouting Scum.

bots
24-06-2016, 08:42 AM
I voted remain, but the majority voted leave. Thats life, the world still turns and we have to adjust to what the majority requested. However, I don't think this was an EU result, it was a "we are not happy with political institutions" vote and it will hit all the main parties hard.

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:46 AM
Exactly.

yes what ones do you think we dont have that we should have?

and that leaving the EU makes a difference

user104658
24-06-2016, 08:49 AM
yes what ones do you think we dont have that we should have?

and that leaving the EU makes a difference
I covered that in my first post LT. We don't have any meaningful industry or manufacturing that would support self-sufficiency in a population this size. We have a high levels of financial services that (IMO) rely heavily on being a portal to the European market, and then relying on that, we have an absolutely massive retail sector.

Wizard.
24-06-2016, 08:49 AM
The Bank of England have promised stability.

user104658
24-06-2016, 08:51 AM
The Bank of England have promised stability.
They can only make that promise short term i.e. they can limit sudden or massive drops. They can do absolutely nothing to halt downwards trends over an extended time frame.

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:55 AM
I covered that in my first post LT. We don't have any meaningful industry or manufacturing that would support self-sufficiency in a population this size. We have a high levels of financial services that (IMO) rely heavily on being a portal to the European market, and then relying on that, we have an absolutely massive retail sector.

and what?

Britain will collapse?

bots
24-06-2016, 08:55 AM
we lost 250 billion every day for about 2 weeks when we had the last recession, just to put it in perspective. The BoE are offering 250 in total..

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 08:55 AM
They can only make that promise short term i.e. they can limit sudden or massive drops. They can do absolutely nothing to halt downwards trends over an extended time frame.

or steady and sustained growth

arista
24-06-2016, 08:56 AM
The Bank of England have promised stability.

Yes Very Stern
No Messing

user104658
24-06-2016, 09:12 AM
and what?

Britain will collapse?

Depends what you mean by "collapse". The country, and most individuals, will be significantly worse off.

user104658
24-06-2016, 09:12 AM
or steady and sustained growth

We'll see. It's not very likely. Luckily it's not just theorising and musing... we will actually see.

arista
24-06-2016, 09:16 AM
Labour MP John Mann Live on BBC News
just said it was the Labour Voters that won this leave Vote.

letmein
24-06-2016, 09:19 AM
Only for a while

Britain ain't ever coming back. It's ovah, hon.

letmein
24-06-2016, 09:20 AM
The Bank of England have promised stability.

lol.

arista
24-06-2016, 09:29 AM
Britain ain't ever coming back. It's ovah, hon.


Time Will Tell

Wizard.
24-06-2016, 09:35 AM
The pound is rising again Armageddon is over!

letmein
24-06-2016, 09:57 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/24/06/359CDE5500000578-3657694-image-a-37_1466747583316.jpg

letmein
24-06-2016, 09:59 AM
The irony is, Britain will always have to play by the EU's rules if it wishes to do business in Europe. That's why this was so ****ing stupid. It will have no political or economic power in Europe now.

kirklancaster
24-06-2016, 10:00 AM
The irony is, Britain will always have to play by the EU's rules if it wishes to do business in Europe. That's why this was so ****ing stupid.

Pure fecking B.S. :shrug:

Denver
24-06-2016, 10:02 AM
The irony is, Britain will always have to play by the EU's rules if it wishes to do business in Europe. That's why this was so ****ing stupid. It will have no political or economic power in Europe now.

Do you actually know anything on the subject?

bots
24-06-2016, 10:03 AM
the rest of europe could easily follow suit now and then we will end up with common trade agreements which was the original intention of the common market. It could easily work out quite well.

Denver
24-06-2016, 10:04 AM
I cant actually believe people think we will Have to pay £5 for chocolate when im sure we have a Cadbury factory in the UK

Jack_
24-06-2016, 10:04 AM
Well this is a nice welcome home isn't it :rolleyes:

I never wanted this referendum in the first place because I knew this would be the result. The politics of fear always wins (see: last year's general election) and on the subject of Trump I also wouldn't rule a presidential victory out now either.

All I can do is laugh. I will laugh at those who voted for this who find that in the near future they're being forced to work longer, for less and with less rights like holiday pay when the Tories come for a trashing of them. I will laugh when their bills for things that were capped under EU law skyrocket. I will laugh if and when it transpires that you need a ****ing visa to visit France. Only then will people realise the mistake they've made.

That said, I am delighted at how engaged so many people were in democracy and politics, it is great to see. Congrats to the Leave side, but your insults about sour grapes and being 'bitter' are completely pointless. Of course I'm ****ing bitter. This is MY future you've just ****ed, and I will bloody well tell you about it

Hope the Scots get another opportunity to get the **** away from Little Englanders and rightly take it this time

arista
24-06-2016, 10:10 AM
Vote Leave are Live now all media
with Boris.

arista
24-06-2016, 10:11 AM
Well this is a nice welcome home isn't it :rolleyes:

I never wanted this referendum in the first place because I knew this would be the result. The politics of fear always wins (see: last year's general election) and on the subject of Trump I also wouldn't rule a presidential victory out now either.

All I can do is laugh. I will laugh at those who voted for this who find that in the near future they're being forced to work longer, for less and with less rights like holiday pay when the Tories come for a trashing of them. I will laugh when their bills for things that were capped under EU law skyrocket. I will laugh if and when it transpires that you need a ****ing visa to visit France. Only then will people realise the mistake they've made.

That said, I am delighted at how engaged so many people were in democracy and politics, it is great to see. Congrats to the Leave side, but your insults about sour grapes and being 'bitter' are completely pointless. Of course I'm ****ing bitter. This is MY future you've just ****ed, and I will bloody well tell you about it

Hope the Scots get another opportunity to get the **** away from Little Englanders and rightly take it this time



Sorry Young Jack

Its Democracy

Denver
24-06-2016, 10:19 AM
I just can't at people thinking we are about to become poorer the Central Africa get a bloody grip you wee pansies Scandinavia have cope brilliantly being out of the EU so I have no doubt the UK can follow suit.

smudgie
24-06-2016, 10:22 AM
3 quarters of young people wanted to remain so no the majority did not agree

And (can't speak for everyone obviously) but we do respect our elders, we just wish they would respect us and be like "hmm those young people want to remain, the people who will be growing up in this country and getting jobs and living an adult life maybe I should just support them" seeing as either way it wouldn't effect elder people too much as they are probably not working, less likely to buy another house etc

Ok, until you are one of these older people you will never understand that in general we put our kids first from the day they are born until the day we die.
As an older person this vote won't make a massive difference to me, however it will to our kids as they grow up.
All this the older people have their houses and jobs and pensions is a very big generalisation. I don't work, husband does his last 4 shifts next week before he goes on the scrap heap, too young yet for the pension,yet too old for most people to consider him for a decent job, but we just get on with it.
As you get older you see the bigger picture and you take the next generation into consideration.

Tom4784
24-06-2016, 10:23 AM
I just can't at people thinking we are about to become poorer the Central Africa get a bloody grip you wee pansies Scandinavia have cope brilliantly being out of the EU so I have no doubt the UK can follow suit.

Different countries, different circumstances.

arista
24-06-2016, 10:25 AM
The Scottish Leader of SNP is Live
on all media

Rob!
24-06-2016, 10:26 AM
I just can't at people thinking we are about to become poorer the Central Africa get a bloody grip you wee pansies Scandinavia have cope brilliantly being out of the EU so I have no doubt the UK can follow suit.

You clearly have absolutly no idea what you're talking about so stop trying to be the Katie Hopkins of the forum.

Denver
24-06-2016, 10:30 AM
You clearly have absolutly no idea what you're talking about so stop trying to be the Katie Hopkins of the forum.

I know exactly what I'm talking about it is actually the remain camp who know nothing They refuse to look at facts that countries with in Europe have performed very well without being Part of the mess they call the EU

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2016, 10:32 AM
did she just call for a new indy ref?

user104658
24-06-2016, 10:38 AM
I just can't at people thinking we are about to become poorer the Central Africa get a bloody grip you wee pansies Scandinavia have cope brilliantly being out of the EU so I have no doubt the UK can follow suit.

Err... Denmark, Sweden and Finland are all EU members. I'll assume you're talking about Norway. If so - you're talking about a small nation with less than 8% of the UK's population size.

That aside, the Norwegian PM himself confirmed that the reason Norway fits in as an idependent nation is that, whilst they get to keep more control over their day-to-day affairs, they simply piggyback on European law unofficially and bring pretty much everything that is decided in Brussels into Norwegian law. They don't "have to", but they do, and that's why it works.

Can you see the UK being up for that? Simply voting in every European law anyway, but without anyone at the table when those laws are being decided in the first place?

y.winter
24-06-2016, 10:38 AM
Me, as one who couldn't have any influence, looking at the outcome of this referendum.
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Maurice-Moss-Eating-Popcorn-The-IT-Crowd.gif

I don't know how I feel about it though. It's not like GB will crash and burn, just a bit of a chaos for a while. Add to this the time when Trump will be elected, then it will be when this happens:
fxMr8RO5BAg

smudgie
24-06-2016, 10:39 AM
Hopefully if Scotland get to have another referendum to leave the UK the rest of us get the chance to decide if we want to keep them or not.:shrug:

Denver
24-06-2016, 10:40 AM
Scotland actually generally believe they are a rich country who can stand on their own 2 feet it's laughable

Niamh.
24-06-2016, 10:42 AM
Scotland actually generally believe they are a rich country who can stand on their own 2 feet it's laughable

:/

Rob!
24-06-2016, 10:42 AM
I know exactly what I'm talking about it is actually the remain camp who know nothing They refuse to look at facts that countries with in Europe have performed very well without being Part of the mess they call the EU

Maybe they have. We aren't going to be one of them.

EspeonBB
24-06-2016, 10:44 AM
Yikes
http://i.imgur.com/UiMTsqy.gif

Denver
24-06-2016, 10:44 AM
Maybe they have. We aren't going to be one of them.

We are a bigger country who has more going for us nobody is saying its not going to be a bumpy ride but we need to look at the distant future not immediate future

user104658
24-06-2016, 10:46 AM
Scotland actually generally believe they are a rich country who can stand on their own 2 feet it's laughable

No some of Scotland believe(d) that we were an independent nation capable of making a good place for ourselves within the wider, looser constructs of the EU and away from direct Westminster rule.

It appears to in fact be the UK as a whole that believes it is so strong / rich that it can stand entirely alone, hence leaving the larger union, to become a solo nation like Denmark and Swe... oh no wait you were wrong about those too.

EspeonBB
24-06-2016, 10:46 AM
I don't know how I feel about it though. It's not like GB will crash and burn, just a bit of a chaos for a while. Add to this the time when Trump will be elected, then it will be when this happens:
fxMr8RO5BAg

I feel like Trump will get elected too. :(

user104658
24-06-2016, 10:48 AM
We are a bigger country who has more going for us nobody is saying its not going to be a bumpy ride but we need to look at the distant future not immediate future

Nope. The smaller a country is, the more ability it has to micro-manage its economy and the welfare of each individual citizen and therefore, the less rocked it will be by global economic tides. Being a "Bigger country" is a drawback, not a benefit.

Denver
24-06-2016, 10:50 AM
Nope. The smaller a country is, the more ability it has to micro-manage its economy and the welfare of each individual citizen and therefore, the less rocked it will be by global economic tides. Being a "Bigger country" is a drawback, not a benefit.

We will sort out i have faith share!e others dont

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
24-06-2016, 10:52 AM
The fack was Trump mumbling on about in his live press. He sounded high that's why he's wearing a hat.

Munchkins
24-06-2016, 10:57 AM
I cant actually believe people think we will Have to pay £5 for chocolate when im sure we have a Cadbury factory in the UK

I don't think anyone really gives a **** about that. It's just a joke:laugh: to relieve the upset many are feeling

Munchkins
24-06-2016, 10:57 AM
And lmao at the 'bitter remain voters' yeah, woo @ my future being ****ed up and having to endure cries of 'NIGEL IS A DECENT MAN, FOR THE PEOPLE WOOOOOO' **** that.

:love: snap.

Smithy
24-06-2016, 10:57 AM
Adam please stop talking it's embarrassing reading your posts

Munchkins
24-06-2016, 10:58 AM
Adam please stop talking it's embarrassing reading your posts

Agreed.

Daniel-X
24-06-2016, 11:01 AM
Well this is a nice welcome home isn't it :rolleyes:

I never wanted this referendum in the first place because I knew this would be the result. The politics of fear always wins (see: last year's general election) and on the subject of Trump I also wouldn't rule a presidential victory out now either.

All I can do is laugh. I will laugh at those who voted for this who find that in the near future they're being forced to work longer, for less and with less rights like holiday pay when the Tories come for a trashing of them. I will laugh when their bills for things that were capped under EU law skyrocket. I will laugh if and when it transpires that you need a ****ing visa to visit France. Only then will people realise the mistake they've made.

That said, I am delighted at how engaged so many people were in democracy and politics, it is great to see. Congrats to the Leave side, but your insults about sour grapes and being 'bitter' are completely pointless. Of course I'm ****ing bitter. This is MY future you've just ****ed, and I will bloody well tell you about it

Hope the Scots get another opportunity to get the **** away from Little Englanders and rightly take it this time

Excellent post :clap1:

I'm not saying all Leave voters by ANY stretch of the means but quite a few seem to have voted out because of pure ignorance and racism.

Daniel-X
24-06-2016, 11:03 AM
Adam please stop talking it's embarrassing reading your posts
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The most absent minded posts on the forum.

Livia
24-06-2016, 11:06 AM
Well this is a nice welcome home isn't it :rolleyes:

I never wanted this referendum in the first place because I knew this would be the result. The politics of fear always wins (see: last year's general election) and on the subject of Trump I also wouldn't rule a presidential victory out now either.

All I can do is laugh. I will laugh at those who voted for this who find that in the near future they're being forced to work longer, for less and with less rights like holiday pay when the Tories come for a trashing of them. I will laugh when their bills for things that were capped under EU law skyrocket. I will laugh if and when it transpires that you need a ****ing visa to visit France. Only then will people realise the mistake they've made.

That said, I am delighted at how engaged so many people were in democracy and politics, it is great to see. Congrats to the Leave side, but your insults about sour grapes and being 'bitter' are completely pointless. Of course I'm ****ing bitter. This is MY future you've just ****ed, and I will bloody well tell you about it

Hope the Scots get another opportunity to get the **** away from Little Englanders and rightly take it this time

You're assuming your opinion is right and everyone else who voted to leave is a little bit silly and didn't think it through. How likely do you think that is?

arista
24-06-2016, 11:07 AM
Excellent post :clap1:

I'm not saying all Leave voters by ANY stretch of the means but quite a few seem to have voted out because of pure ignorance and racism.



Yes I and even Joey
noticed Labour Voters voting leave
just to get the PM Out

Mystic Mock
24-06-2016, 11:08 AM
Well done to the more impassioned campaign winning.

I wish that more of the Remain voters had've voted (including myself) as we needed to save our Economy from falling instead of allowing a vocal minority to make Immigration the bigger thing.

I honestly think that if more of the Remain campaigners had've voted in this Referendum that we would've seen a different result as despite way more Out campaigners voting in this Referendum, they only won with 51 to 52% of the vote.

And Sky Nazi need to stop using their Pom Poms against what's best for this country, having our Pound's value being lowered is not a good thing and is more important to fix than going against Germany.

Livia
24-06-2016, 11:09 AM
Well done to the more impassioned campaign winning.

I wish that more of the Remain voters had've voted (including myself) as we needed to save our Economy from falling instead of allowing a vocal minority to make Immigration the bigger thing.

I honestly think that if more of the Remain campaigners had've voted in this Referendum that we would've seen a different result as despite way more Out campaigners voting in this Referendum, they only won with 51 to 52% of the vote.

And Sky Nazi need to stop using their Pom Poms against what's best for this country, having our Pound's value being lowered is not a good thing and is more important to fix than going against Germany.

Erm... yes.

Mystic Mock
24-06-2016, 11:11 AM
Well this is a nice welcome home isn't it :rolleyes:

I never wanted this referendum in the first place because I knew this would be the result. The politics of fear always wins (see: last year's general election) and on the subject of Trump I also wouldn't rule a presidential victory out now either.

All I can do is laugh. I will laugh at those who voted for this who find that in the near future they're being forced to work longer, for less and with less rights like holiday pay when the Tories come for a trashing of them. I will laugh when their bills for things that were capped under EU law skyrocket. I will laugh if and when it transpires that you need a ****ing visa to visit France. Only then will people realise the mistake they've made.

That said, I am delighted at how engaged so many people were in democracy and politics, it is great to see. Congrats to the Leave side, but your insults about sour grapes and being 'bitter' are completely pointless. Of course I'm ****ing bitter. This is MY future you've just ****ed, and I will bloody well tell you about it

Hope the Scots get another opportunity to get the **** away from Little Englanders and rightly take it this time

There's two sad things about this Jack.

1. Innocent people who wanted an easy life will now pay the price for what the Leave campaigners have done (including myself) will be screwed over by this.

2. The older generations spited the younger generations who will have to live in this country for many more years to come, just because the older generations hate Immigration and Muslims.

But I agree with you on how nice it was to see so many people involved in this discussion.

bots
24-06-2016, 11:13 AM
You're assuming your opinion is right and everyone else who voted to leave is a little bit silly and didn't think it through. How likely do you think that is?

its branding people as silly, racist etc that has caused this result.

Livia
24-06-2016, 11:14 AM
There's two sad things about this Jack.

1. Innocent people who wanted an easy life will now pay the price for what the Leave campaigners have done (including myself) will be screwed over by this.

2. The older generations spited the younger generations who will have to live in this country for many more years to come, just because the older generations hate Immigration and Muslims.

But I agree with you on how nice it was to see so many people involved in this discussion.

Mock, you don't know how any of the generations voted. As for immigration, for years no one's been allowed to have a dialogue about immigration because the Left all scream "racist". If we'd had that dialogue and immigration had been controlled, the result would have been different.

Your comments seem very passionate. Shame you weren't passionate enough to vote.

Livia
24-06-2016, 11:15 AM
its branding people as silly, racist etc that has caused this result.

I couldn't agree more.

Vicky.
24-06-2016, 11:17 AM
I genuinely hope that the optimism about this out vote is correct. I guess we will find out once the new recession is over.

I don't really get why cameron has resigned though, he resigned over actually fulfilling one of his manifesto promises?

Suze
24-06-2016, 11:17 AM
Very pleased with the result. Thought it would be close, but maybe swing towards the remain, so a happy surprise at the result :)

Northern Monkey
24-06-2016, 11:17 AM
Excellent post :clap1:

I'm not saying all Leave voters by ANY stretch of the means but quite a few seem to have voted out because of pure ignorance and racism.

Racism against white European people?

Mystic Mock
24-06-2016, 11:18 AM
I know exactly what I'm talking about it is actually the remain camp who know nothing They refuse to look at facts that countries with in Europe have performed very well without being Part of the mess they call the EU

You can't compare countries with each other as they have different circumstances and are run differently.

The UK had the 5th best Economy in the world whilst being in the EU, we had it great and if people was really patriotic about this country they wouldn't have voted to jeopardize our Economy which is the most important thing alongside Law & Order for every country.

So yeah just because places like Norway had it all sorted (which wouldn't have happened overnight) doesn't mean that the UK are in the position to do this.

Black Dagger
24-06-2016, 11:24 AM
Adam please stop talking it's embarrassing reading your posts

My brain hurts.

Mystic Mock
24-06-2016, 11:27 AM
Scotland actually generally believe they are a rich country who can stand on their own 2 feet it's laughable

Tbh I'm supporting them this time.

1. They don't get their voices heard a lot of the time over England.

2. I believe that a Country should Govern itself at a basic level.

The only thing that makes me fear for them is financially it will screw them over for awhile being out of the UK.

Glenn.
24-06-2016, 11:30 AM
Can we stop calling the leave voters racist people.

Vicky.
24-06-2016, 11:31 AM
Well Farage has just said the money sent to the EU every week will NOT be going to the NHS as people were led to believe ,so the lies begin

Erm...not to be funny but surely noone believed it would b e directed to the NHS anyway?

Mystic Mock
24-06-2016, 11:31 AM
You're assuming your opinion is right and everyone else who voted to leave is a little bit silly and didn't think it through. How likely do you think that is?

A good 80% of them.

I've heard most of them speak and it was all about one issue.

_Tom_
24-06-2016, 11:31 AM
LOL @ "Brexit being won on fear". The people of the UK have rejected a campaign built on months of non-stop fear and negativity by voting out.

Vicky.
24-06-2016, 11:33 AM
Well in reality,Farage didn't give us our country back,David Cameron did,HE called the referendum, Farage has already backtracked on money that went to the EU would be going to the NHS, saying that was a mistake !!! :fist:

If not for Farage and how strong UKIP looked at one stage in the election...Cameron would not have **** himself about losing voters to them and as such promised the referendum to begin with :p

billy123
24-06-2016, 11:34 AM
A good 80% of them.

I've heard most of them speak and it was all about one issue.you listened to most of 17 million people ffs you must have been busy :joker:

Mystic Mock
24-06-2016, 11:34 AM
Erm... yes.

There was an article from The Independent that showed that 80% of Out Campaigners would turnout for this Referendum, while only 70% of the Remain Campaigners would turnout.

Basically do the Maths for if everyone on both sides had've voted and Remain wins with 52%

Livia
24-06-2016, 11:35 AM
A good 80% of them.

I've heard most of them speak and it was all about one issue.


Well that's a damning indictment of 80% of people who got off their arse go vote. You've heard most of them speak? MOST of them? Do you know how many people voted??

And as you weren't one of those people who bothered to vote it's a bit rich to whine about the outcome now.

Glenn.
24-06-2016, 11:35 AM
There was an article from The Independent that showed that 80% of Out Campaigners would turnout for this Referendum, while only 70% of the Remain Campaigners would turnout.

Basically do the Maths for if everyone on both sides had've voted and Remain wins with 52%

But they didn't and here we are.