EU Referendum – 23 June – The Result Discussion (UK Votes To Leave)

[_Tom_]

Today's the day. The most important decision for a generation.

http://i.imgur.com/lSzLxPN.jpg?1

A place for discussion and reaction to the upcoming result on the UK's EU membership referendum.

TV Coverage

Sky News
Decision Time: In or Out? | 9:30pm - with Adam Boulton, Jeremy Thompson and Kay Burley.

BBC1/BBC News Channel
EU Referendum – The Result | 9:55pm - with David Dimbleby, Jeremy Vine, Emily Maitlis, Laura Kuennsberg and Kamal Ahmed.

ITV1/STV
Referendum Result Live: ITV News Special | 10:00pm - with Tom Bradbury, Julie Etchingham, Robert Peston, Allegra Stratton and James Mates.

[Kizzy]

How many EU threads now?..

[_Tom_]

How many EU threads now?..

This is to discuss the result darl - the other thread that has over 55 pages has ran its course and was used as a thread to discuss remain and leave arguments.

[Kizzy]

It's a stickied discussion thread, it hasn't run it's course the decision isn't in yet darl.

[_Tom_]

It's a stickied discussion thread, it hasn't run it's course the decision isn't in yet darl.

It will have once polls open, because there's no more debating to be had. I think a new one is warranted to discuss the the result's TV coverage. Even the elections last month got its own thread for the results coverage and that was only local council and police commissioner elections - this is a much bigger vote.

[_Tom_]

Live polling station cam:
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[Gstar]

Tom are you old enough to vote? :suspect:

[_Tom_]

Tom are you old enough to vote? :suspect:

Yes :suspect:

I'm not the prepubescent Tom LOL

[Northern Monkey]

I think a results discussion thread is a good idea:thumbs:

Although we won't know until tommorrow.

[_Tom_]

I think a results discussion thread is a good idea:thumbs:

Although we won't know until tommorrow.

Thanks :tongue:

True - they're saying 7:00am is when we should know for sure - but there'll be enough to talk about with all the results that come in through the night.

I'll be doing an all-nighter watching it all unfold :spin:

[Gstar]

Yes :suspect:

I'm not the prepubescent Tom LOL

Oh yeah lol just realised :laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

I'll be interested to hear voter turnout figures. Our polling station is directly next to the primary school, went straight after the school run... there was no one else there. Literally no one. I mean, yes, it's a small village but I went at exactly the same time for the Scottish indy referrendum and the queue was out the door, and for the GE there were quite a few people there. But NO ONE today? Very strange.

Not least because with this being a slightly "wealthier" / more politically engaged village, our polling station usually has the highest voter turnout percetage in the county.

Genuinely get the feeling that people don't really understand what they're being asked to vote on here. A couple of my wife's friends were messaging her this morning, saying they were heading in to vote and asking for advice :facepalm:.

[Livia]

Polling station attendance here is very brisk. The people in my local one when I voted this morning said it's busier than they've known it for years.

[Niamh.]

Probably is a quiet time for voting anyway, this time of the day, alot of people will be at work. You'd hope the turn out would good for a big decision like this one

[bots]

i've just voted, and there was someone else there voting at the same time, so that's a great turn out :dance:

[Cherie]

I was on my own as well voting :worry:

[Northern Monkey]

Thanks :tongue:

True - they're saying 7:00am is when we should know for sure - but there'll be enough to talk about with all the results that come in through the night.

I'll be doing an all-nighter watching it all unfold :spin:

Me too!

[Cherie]

I'll be interested to hear voter turnout figures. Our polling station is directly next to the primary school, went straight after the school run... there was no one else there. Literally no one. I mean, yes, it's a small village but I went at exactly the same time for the Scottish indy referrendum and the queue was out the door, and for the GE there were quite a few people there. But NO ONE today? Very strange.

Not least because with this being a slightly "wealthier" / more politically engaged village, our polling station usually has the highest voter turnout percetage in the county.

Genuinely get the feeling that people don't really understand what they're being asked to vote on here. A couple of my wife's friends were messaging her this morning, saying they were heading in to vote and asking for advice :facepalm:.

Where have they been for the last month, it's a relief that the campaigning is over

[Northern Monkey]

Polling station attendance here is very brisk. The people in my local one when I voted this morning said it's busier than they've known it for years.

There was only one lady in front of me at around 9.45 this morning.Very quiet.I suspect lunch time and around 5-6pm will be very busy.

[Munchkins]

I'll be voting at about 6/7.. First ever vote :bigsmile:

[Cherie]

If I'm counting right the remains have it in this thread so far :laugh: unless people changed their minds at the polls :worry:

Edit
Oh Munchkins might have tipped it to level pegging :fist:

[Munchkins]

If I'm counting right the remains have it in this thread so far :laugh: unless people changed their minds at the polls :worry:

Edit
Oh Munchkins might have tipped it to level pegging :fist:

I'm voting to remain:laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

If I'm counting right the remains have it in this thread so far :laugh: unless people changed their minds at the polls :worry:

Edit
Oh Munchkins might have tipped it to level pegging :fist:

How d'you know what i voted?I haven't told you yet:laugh:

[AnnieK]

I'll be voting after work....my son is off school today as his school is being used as a polling station so people better turn out since I've had to pay to get him watched today

[arista]

Kingston Voting
has stopped - Due to Floods.

Tom number 3
update the problems
that are now going on

[Cherie]

How d'you know what i voted?I haven't told you yet:laugh:


Your avatar doesn't suggest remain :hee:

[kirklancaster]

"Good morning Mr Prime Minister. Congratulations on the 60/40 Referendum decision in your favour".

"Shhhh.... The result is not officially known until tomorrow".

Happy Polling All You Remain Voters, but REMEMBER - as the years pass and the UK is a bankrupt helpless mess because of the EU, the ghost of Kirk will eternally haunt these Tibb threads to remind you all of how you voted. :hee:

[bots]

The first votes are due in about 2am, so we should have a good idea of how its going by 4 to 5am ... Better get a nights supply of popcorn in :worry:

[jaxie]

I'll be interested to hear voter turnout figures. Our polling station is directly next to the primary school, went straight after the school run... there was no one else there. Literally no one. I mean, yes, it's a small village but I went at exactly the same time for the Scottish indy referrendum and the queue was out the door, and for the GE there were quite a few people there. But NO ONE today? Very strange.

Not least because with this being a slightly "wealthier" / more politically engaged village, our polling station usually has the highest voter turnout percetage in the county.

Genuinely get the feeling that people don't really understand what they're being asked to vote on here. A couple of my wife's friends were messaging her this morning, saying they were heading in to vote and asking for advice :facepalm:.

Maybe Scotland is boycotting because if leave wins they might get another referendum! :laugh:

[jaxie]

"Good morning Mr Prime Minister. Congratulations on the 60/40 Referendum decision in your favour".

"Shhhh.... The result is not officially known until tomorrow".

Happy Polling All You Remain Voters, but REMEMBER - as the years pass and the UK is a bankrupt helpless mess because of the EU, the ghost of Kirk will eternally haunt these Tibb threads to remind you all of how you voted. :hee:

:laugh:

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/6/23/473452/default/v1/12380332-1-1-589x442.jpg
Kingston Polling stopped by Floods

[bots]

For those saying the results may be fixed. In addition to our own monitors, there will also be independent monitors from 40 other countries witnessing the proceedings

[Northern Monkey]

Your avatar doesn't suggest remain :hee:

:joker:

[_Tom_]

Some people have been getting turned away at polling stations due to a registration error:

http://www.leightonbuzzardonline.co.uk/news/politics/updated-council-sorry-for-polling-station-error-which-left-linslade-voters-unable-to-vote-in-eu-referendum-1-7445502

Not again :facepalm:

[Black Dagger]

Voting after work. Think leave is going to "win" at this stage but I shall do what I can to prevent it.

[_Tom_]

If I'm counting right the remains have it in this thread so far :laugh: unless people changed their minds at the polls :worry:



I'm out & proud. :xyxwave:

[Cherie]

I'm out & proud. :xyxwave:

I'm in and grim :fist:

[bots]

I'm remain and a pain :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/6/23/473452/default/v1/12380332-1-1-589x442.jpg
Kingston Polling stopped by Floods

There is plenty more rain heading in that direction from France

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/radar/ukuk/2016/06/23/1250.gif

[Northern Monkey]

There is plenty more rain heading in that direction from France

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/radar/ukuk/2016/06/23/1250.gif

Bloody French trying to rig our referendum.

[Vicky.]

I'll be interested to hear voter turnout figures. Our polling station is directly next to the primary school, went straight after the school run... there was no one else there. Literally no one. I mean, yes, it's a small village but I went at exactly the same time for the Scottish indy referrendum and the queue was out the door, and for the GE there were quite a few people there. But NO ONE today? Very strange.

Not least because with this being a slightly "wealthier" / more politically engaged village, our polling station usually has the highest voter turnout percetage in the county.

Genuinely get the feeling that people don't really understand what they're being asked to vote on here. A couple of my wife's friends were messaging her this morning, saying they were heading in to vote and asking for advice :facepalm:.

I think people know this, they just haven't a clue on any of the actual facts surrounding the vote. Both campaigns have been exaggerating everything IMO, the leave campaign has outright lied about many claims. A lot of people don't know what the **** is going on. I voted remain. Better tyhe devil you know and all of that...I have been openminded and tbh undecided throughout this whole ordeal and not one argument from leave has convinced me. I also feel we could have another chance to leave in the future, though maybe not for 20/30 years. It seems to be very...final...to decide on a huge thing like this (that there is no backing out of, if leave wins) based on a few leaflets pushed through your door and facebook pictures :laugh:

Having said that, our polling station has been HEAVING. I noticed one or two people going to vote in the GE...but the turnout here seems to be absolutely huge. Unfortunately, so many are ill-informed. I mean, I don't know what will happen if we leave, noone does really (though I tend to favour the views of big businesses and such) but the main reason for voting leave appears to be immigration..which it utter bollocks, immigration won't stop if we leave the EU. Hell...last night I saw someone saying they want to leave as they 'don't like paying taxes'?! Another was ranting about being treated in A+E by a 'foreign' doctor and because of this brought up leaving the EU...as if it would do any good to just remove all of the 'foreign' doctors from the nhs..yeah great plan...lets forget we have a shortage to begin with :shrug:

Anyway, I have no real strong views one way or the other, though right now I would prefer to remain. But some of the arguments have been utterly bizarre.

[Kazanne]

We've just voted to stay IN sorry Kirky (gets my skid lid)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think people know this, they just haven't a clue on any of the actual facts surrounding the vote. Both campaigns have been exaggerating everything IMO, the leave campaign has outright lied about many claims. A lot of people don't know what the **** is going on. I voted remain. Better tyhe devil you know and all of that...I have been openminded and tbh undecided throughout this whole ordeal and not one argument from leave has convinced me. I also feel we could have another chance to leave in the future, though maybe not for 20/30 years. It seems to be very...final...to decide on a huge thing like this (that there is no backing out of, if leave wins) based on a few leaflets pushed through your door and facebook pictures :laugh:

Having said that, our polling station has been HEAVING. I noticed one or two people going to vote in the GE...but the turnout here seems to be absolutely huge. Unfortunately, so many are ill-informed. I mean, I don't know what will happen if we leave, noone does really (though I tend to favour the views of big businesses and such) but the main reason for voting leave appears to be immigration..which it utter bollocks, immigration won't stop if we leave the EU. Hell...last night I saw someone saying they want to leave as they 'don't like paying taxes'?! Another was ranting about being treated in A+E by a 'foreign' doctor and because of this brought up leaving the EU...as if it would do any good to just remove all of the 'foreign' doctors from the nhs..yeah great plan...lets forget we have a shortage to begin with :shrug:

Anyway, I have no real strong views one way or the other, though right now I would prefer to remain. But some of the arguments have been utterly bizarre.

would you have voted to Join the EU if that had been on the table and we were not a member?

[Vicky.]

Also I found out today that they have finally changed my name on voting/deed poll :laugh:

They couldn't find me and I was all ready to kick off about fixing (stupid I know :laugh: ) but they had me down as my married name :D

[Vicky.]

would you have voted to Join the EU if that had been on the table and we were not a member?

If I didn't completely understand the implications of joining and the campaign had been as screwed up as this one AND I had noticed a bunch of lies from those trying to convince me to join, then no. I would not have voted to join. Again I would have voted to remain as we were.

[Cal.]

Hope we get out

[Vicky.]

Oddly enough though, had I been Scottish I would have been a strong out voter in that referendum. I always felt it would be better for the Scots to vote out (though selfishly, I didn't want them to) and the way Cameron and such tried to scare them stood out as a big red flag for me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oddly enough though, had I been Scottish I would have been a strong out voter in that referendum. I always felt it would be better for the Scots to vote out (though selfishly, I didn't want them to) and the way Cameron and such tried to scare them stood out as a big red flag for me.

I am fairly certain Scotland will overwhelmingly vote to remain

[Alf]

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[y.winter]

That's a hard one. The In have some good points and so do the Out. I just hope whatever the result will be, GB will make it work afterwards.

[Vicky.]

I am fairly certain Scotland will overwhelmingly vote to remain

I'm not sure. A leave vote would pretty much guarantee a further Scottish referendum IMO. And so many want that. I think theres a chance of the turnout being very low compared to elsewhere, at least.

[Denver]

ive just voted out because i love to pout

[Braden]

I am seething with my parents. We were on our way to vote and my mum decides to make a comment about how someone at work said that her sister is going over to the Irish Embassy to welcome 800(?) Somalian refugees with new houses (I actually have no dea how this is relevant since Ireland aren't part of the UK, but my response not knowing that it was related to the EU refrendum (I should have seen it a mile off since they've both been very obnoxious towards me for wanting to vote remain) was 'Aw'. I then proceeded ot be called ignorant. On the way to the car my mum made passive aggressive comments about how Britain wasn't 'great' anymore. My Dad who has been unbearble throughout this whole ordeal shouted his points in obvious attempt to try and get me to change my mind, snorted when I made my points for why I think it's better to stay in the EU and ultimately claimed that he was shouting his views in the car because he was talking to my (who was right next to him (why the **** was he shouting? lol)). I literally got out of the car and then walked in the complete opposite direction to the polling station, lmfao. I'll be voting later tonight though,

It's horrible how divided and aggressive this referendum has caused people to become, but it's interesting to view people in a way they wouldn't have before this vote. I have lost so much respect for my parents. Not because of hwo they were voting, but the way they made me feel because how I wanted to vote. Revolting tbh. I feel like complete **** for having an opinion. I'm not the sort of person that wants to use my voice in fear of ridicule in the first place.

[Tom4784]

Our voting station was pretty empty but then again I imagine it'll get very busy in a few hours time.

[Niamh.]

I am seething with my parents. We were on our way to vote and my mum decides to make a comment about how someone at work said that her sister is going over to the Irish Embassy to welcome 800(?) Somalian refugees with new houses (I actually have no dea how this is relevant since Ireland aren't part of the UK, but my response not knowing that it was related to the EU refrendum (I should have seen it a mile off since they've both been very obnoxious towards me for wanting to vote remain) was 'Aw'. I then proceeded ot be called ignorant. On the way to the car my mum made passive aggressive comments about how Britain wasn't 'great' anymore. My Dad who has been unbearble throughout this whole ordeal shouted his points in obvious attempt to try and get me to change my mind, snorted when I made my points for why I think it's better to stay in the EU and ultimately claimed that he was shouting his views in the car because he was talking to my (who was right next to him (why the **** was he shouting? lol)). I literally got out of the car and then walked in the complete opposite direction to the polling station, lmfao. I'll be voting later tonight though,

It's horrible how divided and aggressive this referendum has caused people to become, but it's interesting to view people in a way they wouldn't have before this vote. I have lost so much respect for my parents. Not because of hwo they were voting, but the way they made me feel because how I wanted to vote. Revolting tbh. I feel like complete **** for having an opinion. I'm not the sort of person that wants to use my voice in fear of ridicule in the first place.

Why would Somalian refugees be at the Irish Embassy?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am seething with my parents. We were on our way to vote and my mum decides to make a comment about how someone at work said that her sister is going over to the Irish Embassy to welcome 800(?) Somalian refugees with new houses (I actually have no dea how this is relevant since Ireland aren't part of the UK, but my response not knowing that it was related to the EU refrendum (I should have seen it a mile off since they've both been very obnoxious towards me for wanting to vote remain) was 'Aw'. I then proceeded ot be called ignorant. On the way to the car my mum made passive aggressive comments about how Britain wasn't 'great' anymore. My Dad who has been unbearble throughout this whole ordeal shouted his points in obvious attempt to try and get me to change my mind, snorted when I made my points for why I think it's better to stay in the EU and ultimately claimed that he was shouting his views in the car because he was talking to my (who was right next to him (why the **** was he shouting? lol)). I literally got out of the car and then walked in the complete opposite direction to the polling station, lmfao. I'll be voting later tonight though,

It's horrible how divided and aggressive this referendum has caused people to become, but it's interesting to view people in a way they wouldn't have before this vote. I have lost so much respect for my parents. Not because of hwo they were voting, but the way they made me feel because how I wanted to vote. Revolting tbh. I feel like complete **** for having an opinion. I'm not the sort of person that wants to use my voice in fear of ridicule in the first place.

this why in life when people talk politics its always best to never show your hand

[Vicky.]

I will be glad its all over tbh, though whichever way the vote goes people will be kicking off. every thing that goes wrong in our country will be blamed on those who chose to vote in/leave (whichever wins) and its just going to create bad blood between people. This has been quite the experience for me tbh, as talking politics, being from a northern place generally most people agree. Theres not much variance in opinion and nearly 100% of people are labour here. Its been odd to not know if a throwaway comment about the vote may cause utter hell on or not :joker:

[Braden]

Why would Somalian refugees be at the Irish Embassy?

I have no idea but according to my Mum's co-worker there will be 800 refugees welcomed and given new homes.

[_Tom_]

This from twitter - showing a busy polling station in London - with a huuuge queue just to get in :shocked:

http://i.imgur.com/Px7NLJW.png

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

http://i.imgur.com/ycbvkRq.jpg

Made me a bit teary eyed. One of the most British pics I've ever seen. Lol twat :notimpressed:

[Braden]

this why in life when people talk politics its always best to never show your hand

You're so right. If there's one thing I've learned from this referendum is that it's not too talk you like know everything. I haven't spoke much about it, but I would think that if there were two people woho would be good to discuss/debate it with it would be my parents. Wrong, lol.

I'm definitely going to keep quiet when it comes to the voting malarchy in the future.

[Suze]

Our voting station was pretty empty but then again I imagine it'll get very busy in a few hours time.

I expect as in the General elections most tend to vote after work, so evenings will likely be the busiest times.

[Braden]

I will be glad its all over tbh, though whichever way the vote goes people will be kicking off. every thing that goes wrong in our country will be blamed on those who chose to vote in/leave (whichever wins) and its just going to create bad blood between people. This has been quite the experience for me tbh, as talking politics, being from a northern place generally most people agree. Theres not much variance in opinion and nearly 100% of people are labour here. Its been odd to not know if a throwaway comment about the vote may cause utter hell on or not :joker:

I literally said this yesterday on Twitter. I'll be glad when it's finished :p

[Cherie]

This from twitter - showing a busy polling station in London - with a huuuge queue just to get in :shocked:

http://i.imgur.com/Px7NLJW.png


Surely thats immigrants queuing for bennies ?

[Cherie]

I have no idea but according to my Mum's co-worker
there will be 800 refugees welcomed and given new homes.

In Ireland?

[Vicky.]

Surely thats immigrants queuing for bennies ?

Is this the same immigrants that are taking all of our jobs? how does that work? :suspect: :tongue:

[Niamh.]

Is this the same immigrants that are taking all of our jobs? how does that work? :suspect: :tongue:

:laugh2:

[Cherie]

Is this the same immigrants that are taking all of our jobs? how does that work? :suspect: :tongue:

I know as an immigrant you can't win..:laugh:

[Braden]

In Ireland?

Yeah, that's what was said. It was said right before we left to vote. It didn't dawn on me until I was typing it all out that it had no relevance to this referendum :p

[Niamh.]

Yeah, that's what was said. It was said right before we left to vote. It didn't dawn on me until I was typing it all out that it had no relevance to this referendum :p

Oh I thought you meant the Irish embassy in England :laugh:

[Braden]

Oh I thought you meant the Irish embassy in England :laugh:

lmao, that's what I don't understand. The point was random in itself but it made no sense to me :p

[Denver]

I Want Great Britain back please vote OUT

[arista]

ive just voted out because i love to pout



How Nice

[Withano]

I Want Great Britain back please vote OUT

This makes no sense

[Denver]

This makes no sense

yea it does being in the EU have made us lose what was so Great about Britain

[Josy]

I voted early this morning and there was no one else there apart from myself and my OH, we live in a small village but theres normally some other people there

[Withano]

yea it does being in the EU have made us lose what was so Great about Britain

Oh right yeh, great britain was so much better during the war

[Vicky.]

Oh right yeh, great britain was so much better during the war

At least we had control of our own borders, innit.

I understand a lot of peoples reasons for voting to leave however an alarmingly large amount seem to have no reason besides 'those bloody foreigners' :joker:

[Withano]

At least we had control of our own borders, innit.

I understand a lot of peoples reasons for voting to leave however an alarmingly large amount seem to have no reason besides 'those bloody foreigners' :joker:

Haha, there are legitimate reasons to vote out (for me, they dont outweigh the cons of leaving) but reverting back to wartime britain bcause thats when britain was truly better is by far the worse argument ive heard all month.

Wish those closet racists would just decide already whether the foreigners are taking our jobs or taking our jobseeker benefits. It seems to be both.

[Vicky.]

Haha, there are legitimate reasons to vote out (for me, they dont outweigh the cons of leaving) but reverting back to wartime britain bcause thats when britain was truly better is by far the worse argument ive heard all month.

Worst I saw was last night on FB. Posted by my husbands cousins partner..he wants to leave because he doesn't want to pay taxes...

Honestly :rolleyes:

My mothers voting is interesting too. She is voting leave using immigration as the main reason. However, she has a backup plan. She is wealthy enough that if it all goes tits up she can...emigrate. Umm...

[Denver]

we need to take Australia approach and only allowed skilled workers take job in their skilled area

[Withano]

Worst I saw was last night on FB. Posted by my husbands cousins partner..he wants to leave because he doesn't want to pay taxes...

Honestly :rolleyes:

My mothers voting is interesting too. She is voting leave using immigration as the main reason. However, she has a backup plan. She is wealthy enough that if it all goes tits up she can...emigrate. Umm...

Hahaha. If an IQ score of over 90 was mandatory, this referendum wouldnt even be close. I also have college dropouts on my facebook feed using incredible logic to vote out

[joeysteele]

I have still come across people today, still really voting to leave just to get rid of Cameron.
Couldn't care about the EU, they see this as just a way to get rid of this PM.
Unbelievable.

[Vicky.]

I have still come across people today, still really voting to leave just to get rid of Cameron.
Couldn't care about the EU, they see this as just a way to get rid of this PM.
Unbelievable.

Didn't Cameron say he wasn't stepping down regardless of the result? I mean he already said he didn't want a full term so hes gone in a couple years regardless. But getting rid of cameron and having him replaced by Boris...or GOVE even...just no :umm2:

[joeysteele]

Didn't Cameron say he wasn't stepping down regardless of the result? I mean he already said he didn't want a full term so hes gone in a couple years regardless. But getting rid of cameron and having him replaced by Boris...or GOVE even...just no :umm2:

People misguidedly think he will be gone and whoever takes over will have to call another general election.

If it is a vote to leave, Cameron will certainly be gone and near quite quickly, so they will get their wish on that but they will get no general election.

[Cherie]

we need to take Australia approach and only allowed skilled workers take job in their skilled area


It still wouldn't stop people moaning, "foreign doctors" are quite often Indian so they have been given a visa on the merits of what they bring to the UK, we have a shortage of construction workers yet people are always complaining about Polish builders , yet we need them so a points system isn't going to make much difference to some peoples attitudes

[Vicky.]

People misguidedly think he will be gone and whoever takes over will have to call another general election.

If it is a vote to leave, Cameron will certainly be gone and near quite quickly, so they will get their wish on that but they will get no general election.

It doesn't work like this does it? I don't really klnow too much about politics and stuff tbh but won't someone just take over and the tories remain in power?

From what I know, Brown was just thrust upon us and not actually elected?

[bots]

if those voting out get their wish, I wonder how they will think when Boris takes over:joker:

[Vicky.]

if those voting out get their wish, I wonder how they will think when Boris takes over:joker:

Boris (to me anyway) is more likeable as a person than Cameron. However I would not trust him to run the ****ing country. No chance.

[joeysteele]

It doesn't work like this does it? I don't really klnow too much about politics and stuff tbh but won't someone just take over and the tories remain in power?

From what I know, Brown was just thrust upon us and not actually elected?

No, David Cameron did say in opposition if a PM changed while in office he'd like to see a new general election held within 6 months.

However when the coalition put in place the 5 year fixed term parliaments act,they omitted to make that a condition, so you are correct, no election will be forthcoming.
Also two thirds majority is needed from MPs to call an election which means 434 MPs have to vote for an election outside of the fixed term parliament act.

Not a chance on that happening at all.

[hijaxers]

Please please please let us be OUT I'll be so piggin happy :dance::dance::dance::dance:

[Vicky.]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13509139_1561285350833751_7538177988002005142_n.jp g?oh=91c7e2da7c68886d9ac0109d0f1184b2&oe=57F544DB :D

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I Want Great Britain back please vote OUT

But what is the definition of Great? It's like make America great what is the definition of great? For most people modern America was built on genocide and slavery and then racism, sexism the list goes on

[Cherie]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13509139_1561285350833751_7538177988002005142_n.jp g?oh=91c7e2da7c68886d9ac0109d0f1184b2&oe=57F544DB :D


:joker: they are not immigrants you know they are expats ..the irony

[Brother Leon]

Just got my vote in to Remain.

[Shaun]

I'm cautiously optimistic about Remain winning now... last week I was sure Leave would win with about 55% but I think it'll be 53% Remain now.

Only just noticed there'll be no exit polls... not sure how to feel about that.

[Kazanne]

I have still come across people today, still really voting to leave just to get rid of Cameron.
Couldn't care about the EU, they see this as just a way to get rid of this PM.
Unbelievable.

That's just too silly Joey,but didn't we call this ? people are so dumb sometimes do they not realise it's a vote for the whole countries future NOT to get rid of DC,Ah well I have voted and voted to remain,immigrants will get in whether we are in or out,that ship sailed years ago.

[arista]

I have still come across people today, still really voting to leave just to get rid of Cameron.
Couldn't care about the EU, they see this as just a way to get rid of this PM.
Unbelievable.



I told of of this some time back,
I am glad you found out

[joeysteele]

That's just too silly Joey,but didn't we call this ? people are so dumb sometimes do they not realise it's a vote for the whole countries future NOT to get rid of DC,Ah well I have voted and voted to remain,immigrants will get in whether we are in or out,that ship sailed years ago.

I agree with all you say there, I'm pleased too you decided remain Kazanne.

[Wizard.]

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

My sister said the flood on voting day is God saying ''REMAIN'' [indoors]

[AProducer'sWetDream]

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

The problem is that many older people have pensions or are already secure in their jobs. Negative impacts of a leave vote will be felt the most by younger people- those looking for jobs for the first time- if less jobs are created. Older people may therefore be more willing to take a risk in this referendum because they arent as likely to lose out if the economy is damaged, whereas many young people (including myself) are very worried about the risks of leaving to jobs, wages, opportunities etc.

[_Tom_]

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

I've seen too many disgusting comments on social from Remain supporters towards the older voters.

[Wizard.]

The problem is that many older people have pensions or are already secure in their jobs. Negative impacts of a leave vote will be felt the most by younger people- those looking for jobs for the first time- if less jobs are created. Older people may therefore be more willing to take a risk in this referendum because they arent as likely to lose out if the economy is damaged, whereas many young people (including myself) are very worried about the risks of leaving to jobs, wages, opportunities etc.

They know about risks more than we do and obviously realise that this is a risk worth taking! :wavey: Bye EU Bye Germany we don't work for you.

[MB.]

Thought it might be worth my two pence that my grandparents are both well into their 80s, have been divorced for 40 years and live on opposite sides of the country, and both voted Remain

[Braden]

Finally got round to voting after today's drama :p

I presume the voting will be broken down into constituencies?

[Scarlett.]

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

and I'm tired of the older generations telling me I don't know better. Sorry I don't belive a word The Sun, Daily Mail and Sky News say, and instead believe research, actual experts and buisness leaders. The younger generation is the one who have to live with this vote.

[_Tom_]

Finally got round to voting after today's drama :p

I presume the voting will be broken down into constituencies?

Yep - each constituency will reveal their vote counts throughout the night - but it will be the total number of votes cast in the UK that will win it for Leave or Remain. Even 1 vote could clinch a win for either side! :worry:

[Braden]

Yep - each constituency will reveal their vote counts throughout the night - but it will be the total number of votes cast in the UK that will win it for Leave or Remain. Even 1 vote could clinch a win for either side! :worry:

Thank you! :)

God, imagine if that ever were the case. It's almost impossible but it would be so exciting to watch.

[MB.]

Even worse, it could be Keith's blind 93 year old mum who casts the deciding vote

[Cherie]

Wouldn't one vote between the two sides spark a recount?

[bots]

Wouldn't one vote between the two sides spark a recount?

nope. The referendum is not a legally binding vote. It is a canvas of opinion. There can be recounts at a local level, but not after they have become part of the main figure. So if it was a draw, that would be the result. It would mean we were unable to make a decision and therefore should remain in the EU

[Wizard.]

So the number one trending hashtag in the UK is #IVotedLeave whereas beneath it is a sponsored paid for topical #LabourINforbritain telling people to go vote remain TOMORROW :D

[_Tom_]

So the number one trending hashtag in the UK is #IVotedLeave whereas beneath it is a sponsored paid for topical #LabourINforbritain telling people to go vote remain TOMORROW :D

No Remain hashtag to be seen - except for that promoted one Labour bought which gives the wrong information :joker:

[Wizard.]

No Remain hashtag to be seen - except for that promoted one Labour bought which gives the wrong information :joker:

Messy hehe

[Livia]

Finally got round to voting after today's drama :p

I presume the voting will be broken down into constituencies?

No, it's broken down into council areas, except in Northern Ireland where it's done by constituency.

[Cherie]

nope. The referendum is not a legally binding vote. It is a canvas of opinion. There can be recounts at a local level, but not after they have become part of the main figure. So if it was a draw, that would be the result. It would mean we were unable to make a decision and therefore should remain in the EU


Oh thanks didn't know that!

[kirklancaster]

I am an 'Oldie', and I have been keenly interested in politics since I was a pre-teen, am not tied to any political party, have lived through Heath's self confessed treachery in conning us into the 'Common Market', through Thatcher's later confession that she had been 'duped' over the EU, through John Major's treasonous skullduggery in signing the Maastricht Treaty, through Blair and Brown's self-serving endorsement of an EU which they KNEW was highly damaging to this country, and now I have seen David Cameron join that list of treasonous British leaders in LYING to this country and duping it by scaremongering into voting 'Remain'.

Incidentally, I am not so vehemently against the EU through any personal reason - I have had my own businesses and Limited Companies since my mid twenties and own a multi million pound portfolio of properties including one in Torrevieja, Spain, and though not 'Cash Rich', I am not starved of cash.

I CARE for the same reason that the much maligned Nigel Farage cares - the MOST honest politician in the UK - For the sake of the UK and the young and the generations STILL TO COME.

Farage puts country above himself so much, that he wants to vote himself out of a £182,826 income as an MEP on the EU 'Gravy Train' - weigh that against the lying politicians with vested interests in perpetuating the corrupt EU.

I have decades of PERSONAL Experience as a businessman and landlord who has both employed and let properties to hundreds of immigrants over the years, so I have also decades of experience of immigrants and the ADVERSE effects of open door Immigration on communities throughout the North of England, through moving in immigrant circles.

I have read hundreds of articles about the EU - both pro and anti, and watched dozens of documentaries on that subject and closely related matters, including;

UK Border Force, Panorama, 24 Hours In Police Custody, Question Time, Council House Crackdown, Crimewatch, Daily Politics etc etc, in addition to EVERY single purpose made program on the EU and EU Referendum.

I learnt a long, long time ago, that Information is Power and Knowledge is Power, and I am not this passionate against my country's insane continued membership of that failed and corrupt, corporation serving, Federalist shambles, through being Xenophobic, Racist, A 'Little Englander', or through being a dithering idiot who has no knowledge of what I am being asked to vote on.

All the bleating about the UK not being capable of going it alone without the EU, is idiotic and belittles the skills, courage, determination and spirit of the British people - domiciled immigrant British included - and is utterly wrong.

It is this 'Britishness' - which some on here may decry and denigrate - which has seen this country still REMAIN a world power long after it's days of 'Empire' are gone.

Name me one other former EMPIRE which can boast of the same;

The Greeks? The Italians (Romans)? The Ottoman (Turkish)? The Persian (Iran)?

No, throughout history - and given the inevitable cyclic 'peaking and troughing' in our fortunes - GREAT BRITAIN remains just that; GREAT, and it is the calibre of the PEOPLE of a country which ultimately decides whether a country is 'Great' or not.

What is more - and unlike most of the other former 'Empires' - Britain did not turn its back on the countries we once plundered or treat badly during the days of Empire, we GAVE BACK, and have NEVER stopped giving back -- though nothing can ever eradicate the shameful parts of our long history, we ARE trying and have always tried, to make amends.

I have posted comprehensive FACT and STATISTIC based posts on here detailing just WHY this country cannot afford to remain in the UK, including:

1 42 years of negative balance of trade deficits (currently worsened to over £42 billion up to March of this year).

2. The £259 Billion 'Black Hole' in the EU's finances due to FRAUD; a 'Black Hole' which the arrogant bastards in Brussels demanded £34 Billion from the UK to help refill, to which Cameron said "Over my dead body" only to deceitfully secretly PAY it.

3. The total deceit of the UK Government over the REAL IMMIGRATION FIGURES. While the headlines screamed; 'Net Migration Rises To 330,00 The Second Highest On Record' - the National Insurance Numbers handed out to immigrant applicants for the same period was 630,000.

The subsequent frantic scramble by the Government to try to explain away this discrepancy is so convoluted and complicated and NONSENSICAL that it beggars belief. What the Government finally did admit is that 'It HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW MANY IMMIGRANTS ARE ENTERIN G THE UK'

4. The B.S. claim that 44% of our exports are to the EU. I explained about 'The Rotterdam Effect' - how ALL cargo ships from the UK which temporarily docked at Rotterdam or Antwerp had their cargoe's ASCRIBED AS GOING TO THE EU EVEN IF THEY WERE NOT!

As in the NINO discrepancy above, the British Government tried to downplay this unscrupulous practice with the most convoluted, complex cover-up possible, and ended up - once again - admitting that 'There were no figures available for actual exports to the EU'.

I could go on and on but it will make no difference.

The HMS GREAT BRITAIN is a 19th century wooden ship far out at sea, and successive British Governments have been steering her towards the rocks whilst selling of the bitumen caulk which keeps her planked hull watertight, but that does not worry them, because THEY own the LIFEBOATS and ALL THE NEAREST ISLANDS.

It is the 'Common Working Classes' who are 'below decks' who will drown, but when that day comes and this country is a bankrupt disaster zone - if the referendum result is 'Remain' - as I suspect - then at least I can hold my head up and know that I tried.

How ironic that would be should that be whilst I am in my little villa in Los Balcones, Spain.

[Braden]

No, it's broken down into council areas, except in Northern Ireland where it's done by constituency.

Oh okay, thanks! :)

[bots]

Oh thanks didn't know that!

its an interesting one. If the people voted out in the referendum, parliament could still decide to ignore the vote and stay in and with all the major parties supporting remain, the potential is there. Although, i dont think any mp voting against what the people had decided would last long :laugh:

[reece(:]

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

Tbf they are a tad irrelevant to this vote, the outcome will impact us young adults more than anyone else

[Wizard.]

Tbf they are a tad irrelevant to this vote, the outcome will impact us young adults more than anyone else

#IVotedLeave now trending worldwide! Thought old people were inept on social media :joker:

[MB.]

Not sure when any of us brought that up but okay

[Johnnyuk123]

#IVotedLeave now trending worldwide! Thought old people were inept on social media :joker:

It's No1 on twitter! I just posted on it. :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[Toy Soldier]

nope. The referendum is not a legally binding vote. It is a canvas of opinion. There can be recounts at a local level, but not after they have become part of the main figure. So if it was a draw, that would be the result. It would mean we were unable to make a decision and therefore should remain in the EU
Yep, if it was 51-52% "exit" I doubt they would even consider actually leaving the EU, it's too drastic a decision to make based on a margin that low. Anything above 55% exit though, and I think it would have major implications for democracy if they didn't see it through.

[Wizard.]

#IVotedLeave 56,000 tweets
#IVotedRemain 4,000 tweets

Come on social media :clap1:

[Scarlett.]

I used the hashtag #remain, there is several variations of it, including the Labour one.

[_Tom_]

There's also several variants of the Leave hashtag - #VoteLeave, #Leave, #LeaveEU

[Black Dagger]

Bearing in mind Labour was trending heavily during the general elections, and look at the ****ing mess we got left in.

[Braden]

Yeah, the hashtag doesn't represent any sort of voting statistics. I gurantee a lot of the tweets using that hashtag will be negative.

[zakman440]

BBC coverage has started.

[bots]

i think the remainers have been mobilised :smug:

[kirklancaster]

Yep, if it was 51-52% "exit" I doubt they would even consider actually leaving the EU, it's too drastic a decision to make based on a margin that low. Anything above 55% exit though, and I think it would have major implications for democracy if they didn't see it through.

:joker::joker::joker::joker: And your NEXT joke is?

A WIN is a WIN - no matter by 1% or 90%. You of all people should know this - being a betting shop manager.

There will be riots in this country should 'Leave' win by 1% and the Government announced that the margin was so small they are ignoring the result and remaining.

If ALL 46.5 million voters actually voted, and Leave won by 51% to 49% - that would equate to 930,000 more people voting to leave.

[_Tom_]

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[_Tom_]

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[reece(:]

#IVotedLeave now trending worldwide! Thought old people were inept on social media :joker:

Irrelevant to what I said but OK!

[_Tom_]

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[reece(:]

Pray 4 Remain

[Cherie]

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How could he possibly know :shrug:

[Cherie]

:Pray 4 Remain

:clap2:

[MB.]

Come thru f.ierce g.oddess Remain! etc

[reece(:]

Come thru f.ierce g.oddess Remain! etc

Kween :clap1:

[reece(:]

Sunderland expected to vote out

Not proud of my roots at this time!

[Ross.]

Come thru f.ierce g.oddess Remain! etc

:joker:

[lewis111]

Hopefully The Scottish and Northern Irish vote can sway the split England/Wales vote

[Vicky.]

Sunderland expected to vote out

Not proud of my roots at this time!

Yup, leave seems to be the overwhelming fave of most up in this area tbh

[MB.]

Apparently the East Midlands are the most Out region (not in that way) in the entire country, think how I feel

[reece(:]

Yup, leave seems to be the overwhelming fave of most up in this area tbh

Full of these people?

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[bots]

they reckon quite a lot of turnouts are in the 80%:shocked:

[lewis111]

So annoying how I can't vote when I feel I'm more educated onthe issue through Modern Studies at school than a lot of people voting and this will be deciding my future for my entire life not just the end of it

[_Tom_]

Sky saying estimated turnout to be 83.7%! :o

[Vicky.]

Full of these people?

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13494945_10157113481790192_4128412657829709203_n.j pg?oh=249d181a3583546a65077f7a865914cb&oe=5809FDF8

yup. FB feed is a mix of 'get the immigrants out they come here and don't want to work' versus 'vote out, immigrants are taking our jobs'

With the odd 'Voting out, I dont like paying tax' and stupid things like that

[Braden]

Remain, darling! Remain!

[Cherie]

Yup, leave seems to be the overwhelming fave of most up in this area tbh


You haven't got enough immigrants to swing the vote :hehe:

[MB.]

Sky saying estimated turnout to be 83.7%! :o

they reckon quite a lot of turnouts are in the 80%:shocked:

That's one good thing to have come out of the referendum, then - let's hope it lasts by the time the next general election comes around (I highly doubt it but hey, one can dream)

[Tom4784]

Apparently the East Midlands are the most Out region (not in that way) in the entire country, think how I feel

Spare a thought for me, for most of today my facebook has been littered with variations of 'voting out cus of immigrants innit.' :worry:

[Cherie]

Sky saying estimated turnout to be 83.7%! :o

Not surprised at this, my old man has never voted in all the time I have known him, but he voted on this

[bots]

Not surprised at this, my old man has never voted in all the time I have known him, but he voted on this

i havent needed to vote in 30 years, i did today.

[Scarlett.]

Spare a thought for me, for most of today my facebook has been littered with variations of 'voting out cus of immigrants innit.' :worry:

Same, one person even commented on my voted #Remain post, and I came back with actual facts and pointed out that the EU funds a lot of projects in the UK, only for the other person to be like "you young people dont know freedom!"

[reece(:]

Spare a thought for me, for most of today my facebook has been littered with variations of 'voting out cus of immigrants innit.' :worry:

It's so tedious with the immigrant card being pulled out every single time!

[lewis111]

It's so tedious with the immigrant card being pulled out every single time!

It's all the got tho

[Cherie]

i havent needed to vote in 30 years, i did today.

When he went to vote I was like D: the turnouts going to be high :joker:

[Denver]

It's so tedious with the immigrant card being pulled out every single time!

im sorry but if i want a country full of Turks id go to Germany

[reece(:]

im sorry but if i want a country full of Turks id go to Germany

:facepalm:

[MB.]

Or, y'know, Turkey, where the vast majority of Turkish people are

[Denver]

Or, y'know, Turkey, where the vast majority of Turkish people are

not for much longer they will all be out

[Denver]

did you all vote in biro? i dont trust them ****ty pencil they can rubber out and change the result

[kirklancaster]

Same, one person even commented on my voted #Remain post, and I came back with actual facts and pointed out that the EU funds a lot of projects in the UK, only for the other person to be like "you young people dont know freedom!"

'The EU' actually 'funds' zilch in this country - The Uk runs a PERMANENT ANNUAL DEFICIT with those corrupt 'B's - £42 BILLION this year so far - on TOP of the £10 to 11 Billion Net which we PAY to be fleeced, and ALL the EU is doing is 'funding' some projects with a PORTION of our OWN money.

[MB.]

I PUT a lot of MY WORDS in CAPITALS which MAKES my posts IMPORTANT

[Ross.]

did you all vote in biro? i dont trust them ****ty pencil they can rubber out and change the result

If someone actually has the time to do that then they can have my vote

[Cherie]

If someone actually has the time to do that then they can have my vote

My son said the was on twitter earlier and someone tweeted you need a laminator as well so they can't tear up your vote :joker:

[MB.]

I hadn't heard of Andrea Leadsom until the other day and I'm fairly sure it's because she's an android

[Denver]

I PUT a lot of MY WORDS in CAPITALS which MAKES my posts IMPORTANT

no need to troll

[Ross.]

My son said the was on twitter earlier and someone tweeted you need a laminator as well so they can't tear up your vote :joker:

:joker:

[Cherie]

I PUT a lot of MY WORDS in CAPITALS which MAKES my posts IMPORTANT


Not fair that's Kirks style

[kirklancaster]

I PUT a lot of MY WORDS in CAPITALS which MAKES my posts IMPORTANT

Don't worry about how I stylize my typing - worry about my comprehensive, FACTS LADEN posts which ALL you misguided Remainers always avoid responding to.

[kirklancaster]

Not fair that's Kirks style

Thank you Cherie. I'm now waiting for someone to claim that I am the one being personal.

[_Tom_]

did you all vote in biro? i dont trust them ****ty pencil they can rubber out and change the result

Yep - of course. :thumbs:

[Scarlett.]

'The EU' actually 'funds' zilch in this country - The Uk runs a PERMANENT ANNUAL DEFICIT with those corrupt 'B's - £42 BILLION this year so far - on TOP of the £10 to 11 Billion Net which we PAY to be fleeced, and ALL the EU is doing is 'funding' some projects with a PORTION of our OWN money.

No point trying to convert voters now :laugh:

[bots]

Thank you Cherie. I'm now waiting for someone to claim that I am the one being personal.

lets just watch the count, we can't change the result now :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

No point trying to convert voters now :laugh:

I gave that up Chewy before today. :laugh:

[MB.]

According to YouGov, 7% of UKIP supporters voted Remain

[reece(:]

Someone on twitter saying how can all the immigrants take all the jobs and dole money at the same time :joker::clap1: Brilliant

[bots]

According to YouGov, 7% of UKIP supporters voted Remain

haha

[Denver]

Someone on twitter saying how can all the immigrants take all the jobs and dole money at the same time :joker::clap1: Brilliant

because there is too many? all the jobs were taken by immigrants so the next batch was went on jobcentre

[Wizard.]

Can this not turn into an argument now all the votes have been done the result is there and it just needs to be counted and announced. But God will make the right decision!

[Tom4784]

I love it when people tell you to use a pen to vote. It's funny that people are preemptively looking for something to blame because they know the results won't go their way.

[MB.]

The Daily Mail comment section have heard that Remain might win

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[Scarlett.]

Can this not turn into an argument now all the votes have been done the result is there and it just needs to be counted and announced. But God will make the right decision!

God is a UK citizen?!

[Toy Soldier]

:joker::joker::joker::joker: And your NEXT joke is?

A WIN is a WIN - no matter by 1% or 90%. You of all people should know this - being a betting shop manager.

There will be riots in this country should 'Leave' win by 1% and the Government announced that the margin was so small they are ignoring the result and remaining.

If ALL 46.5 million voters actually voted, and Leave won by 51% to 49% - that would equate to 930,000 more people voting to leave.

The point is that all 46.5 million voters will not vote, and therefore a 1% margin is not enough to comprehensively indicate that the majority of people actually want such drastic change. As has been pointed out - this isn't an election, it's essentially a massive official opinion poll. The result is not binding. Any large margin would, as I said, have massive implications for democracy if it was ignored but a 51-49% outcome is entirely inconclusive.

In my opinion - as tiresom as it would be - I personally think a result with a small margin like that should automatically trigger another referrendum in, say, 2 or 3 years time.

[Wizard.]

God is a UK citizen?!

More than Gibraltar are? Who the **** is Gibralter I never heard of them before this week. They're practically Spanish ffs

[Withano]

According to YouGov, 7% of UKIP supporters voted Remain

Oh can you link me? I love **** like this

[Tom4784]

The Daily Mail comment section have heard that Remain might win

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Beautiful, I wish to turn their tears into a fine wine that I can sip on at my leisure.

[kirklancaster]

lets just watch the count, we can't change the result now :laugh:

:laugh: Whichever way the result goes BOTS, I will be bloody relieved that it is all over.

[reece(:]

They're practically Spanish ffs

Well no, they're not :laugh:

[MB.]

oh can you link me? I love **** like this

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[Wizard.]

Well no, they're not :laugh:

They are situated underneath Spain. I'm sorry but if the British Empire is over why do we still control countries overseas?

[Denver]

I love it when people tell you to use a pen to vote. It's funny that people are preemptively looking for something to blame because they know the results won't go their way.

are mods allowed to bait?

[Northern Monkey]

:joker: @ UKIP supporters voting remain.That's like the SNP voting to stay in the UK.The whole point of UKIP is independence:laugh:

[kirklancaster]

The point is that all 46.5 million voters will not vote, and therefore a 1% margin is not enough to comprehensively indicate that the majority of people actually want such drastic change. As has been pointed out - this isn't an election, it's essentially a massive official opinion poll. The result is not binding. Any large margin would, as I said, have massive implications for democracy if it was ignored but a 51-49% outcome is entirely inconclusive.

In my opinion - as tiresom as it would be - I personally think a result with a small margin like that should automatically trigger another referrendum in, say, 2 or 3 years time.

Now you ARE joking T.S. - None of us could endure another. :laugh:

Just one thing - Are you saying that a 51-49 margin would still be inconclusive if Remain won by it?

[MB.]

They are situated underneath Spain. I'm sorry but if the British Empire is over why do we still control countries overseas?

On that basis, I'd love to know what you think about Northern Ireland, which is technically overseas

[Toy Soldier]

The Daily Mail comment section have heard that Remain might win

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:joker: That's gold.

I especially like the ones that are like "But everyone in these comments sections is wants leave so why is it not landslide leave derp derp?"

...in the Daily Mail comments... :hehe: do they actually not realise?

[Tom4784]

are mods allowed to bait?

We're not but that post isn't baiting.

If you wish to discuss the types of things that aren't allowed on this forum how about we start with racism?

[James]

The YouGov poll is an on-the-day poll, not an exit poll ie. as people leave the polling station. The similar poll for the 2015 General Election got it wrong - https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/05/08/general-election-opinion-polls-brief-post-mortem/

[Will.]

Is it looking like remain or leave?

[reece(:]

They are situated underneath Spain. I'm sorry but if the British Empire is over why do we still control countries overseas?

They should have a large say on the EU stance considering they are directly attached to Spain, with large UK populations

[Withano]

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Thanks! Hoping the Green/snp/plaids voted for 80%+ remain too but this is quite releiving on its own

[kirklancaster]

are mods allowed to bait?

Don't go there Adam - You CANNOT win.

[reece(:]

On that basis, I'd love to know what you think about Northern Ireland, which is technically overseas

Or Jersey?

[MB.]

(yeah, the 7% figure isn't necessarily one hundred percent accurate, but it's representative of similar polls taken previously and I wouldn't be surprised if we got a very similar result)

[Shaun]

Got to love how people that don't even know Gibraltar exists are allowed to vote.

[Toy Soldier]

Now you ARE joking T.S. - None of us could endure another. :laugh:

Just one thing - Are you saying that a 51-49 margin would still be inconclusive if Remain won by it?

Yes, in an ideal world a result like that should keep the conversation open. I did say it would be tiresome but it just simply isn't a strong enough indicator of which direction people want the country to be heading in :shrug:

[Withano]

Is it looking like remain or leave?

Bookies are convinced we're remaining. But I still think its gonna be close

[reece(:]

Got to love how people that don't even know Gibraltar exists are allowed to vote.

Spill it!

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[Withano]

Got to love how people that don't even know Gibraltar exists are allowed to vote.

84% turnout too so thats 25k headstart for remain probs

[Denver]

We're not but that post isn't baiting.

If you wish to discuss the types of things that aren't allowed on this forum how about we start with racism?

are you accusing me of being racist?

[Withano]

are you accusing me of being racist?

Stop baiting

[kirklancaster]

Yes, in an ideal world a result like that should keep the conversation open. I did say it would be tiresome but it just simply isn't a strong enough indicator of which direction people want the country to be heading in :shrug:

That's fair enough then T.S. Thanks.

[James]

Or Jersey?

The Channel Islands aren't part of the EU, as far as I know.

[Denver]

Stop baiting

if you look back i was the one that was attacked twice for my opinions

[bots]

i think remain is being lulled into security, its not even close to being a foregone conclusion yet

[Tom4784]

are you accusing me of being racist?

im sorry but if i want a country full of Turks id go to Germany

because there is too many? all the jobs were taken by immigrants so the next batch was went on jobcentre

Plus some questionable comments you made suggesting that Hughie is a thief due to his heritage.....

[Wizard.]

Got to love how people that don't even know Gibraltar exists are allowed to vote.

Hey why don't Remainers stop acting like they're better than everyone else, okay I didn't know that but how dare you belittle me and my right to vote?

[kirklancaster]

According to YouGov, 7% of UKIP supporters voted Remain

This is a SINCERE question; How do the pollsters KNOW that someone is UKIP or not?

[hijaxers]

I'd rather not wake up in the morning if we're still in , just put me on a bonfire.

[MB.]

Hey why don't Remainers stop acting like they're better than everyone else, okay I didn't know that but how dare you belittle me and my right to vote?

You're belittling Gibraltarians and their right to vote tbh

[Denver]

Plus some questionable comments you made suggesting that Hughie is a thief due to his heritage.....

i had no idea Turkey was a race

[Wizard.]

if you look back i was the one that was attacked twice for my opinions

Leave it Adam, Remainers think that they are above everyone who doesn't agree with their opinion but it's funny because they say brexiters are angry and bitter people haha, YA FOOLS

[Tom4784]

if you look back i was the one that was attacked twice for my opinions

I made a comment on the general conversation, it wasn't even aimed at you, hell I didn't even see your post until afterwards. It may shock you to hear this but this site doesn't actually revolve around what you have to say. We're not all waiting on baited breath for whatever you're gonna spout out next, we aren't sharpening our knives in preparation.

[Wizard.]

You're belittling Gibraltarians and their right to vote tbh

If there was a Gibraltarian here and was offended I'd apologise but there isn't so point invalid thank you bye!

[_Tom_]

i had no idea Turkey was a race

:joker:

[kirklancaster]

Hey why don't Remainers stop acting like they're better than everyone else, okay I didn't know that but how dare you belittle me and my right to vote?

Don't worry about it Riley, a lot of the Remain camp on here did not know what 'The Rotterdam Effect' is, or that the UK pays Child Benefits for immigrant's children who live in their native countries etc etc.

[MB.]

This is a SINCERE question; How do the pollsters KNOW that someone is UKIP or not?

YouGov would most likely be asking this question to people on their panel who'll have given information about their political affiliation etc to them in the past - it's not 100% accurate, granted, but it should give a pretty good indication of where things are headed

[Tom4784]

If there was a Gibraltarian here and was offended I'd apologise but there isn't so point invalid thank you bye!

Except it's not invalid. You belittled their right to vote and then you acted all offended because you felt like your right to vote was being belittled. It doesn't matter if there's someone from Gibralter here or not, hypocrisy is still hypocrisy.

[MB.]

If there was a Gibraltarian here and was offended I'd apologise but there isn't so point invalid thank you bye!

I'd ask how you knew that there aren't but even if there were, you wouldn't know that they exist

[Wizard.]

Don't worry about it Riley, a lot of the Remain camp on here did not know what 'The Rotterdam Effect' is, or that the UK pays Child Benefits for immigrant's children who live in their native countries etc etc.

Exactly and if someone who is voting leave doesn't know 1 fact or gets something wrong we get attacked as ignorant or stupid but for them hey it's a free pass because they're not "racist or ignorant"

[Wizard.]

I'd ask how you knew that there aren't but even if there were, you wouldn't know that they exist

Well I said I found out last week, why would I know about an insignificant little country?

[kirklancaster]

YouGov would most likely be asking this question to people on their panel who'll have given information about their political affiliation etc to them in the past - it's not 100% accurate, granted, but it should give a pretty good indication of where things are headed

Thank you. So it could be that a group of 'Remain' supporters lied or even pranked the pollsters that they were 'UKIP' supporters but were intending to vote 'Remain'?

[Denver]

Don't worry about it Riley, a lot of the Remain camp on here did not know what 'The Rotterdam Effect' is, or that the UK pays Child Benefits for immigrant's children who live in their native countries etc etc.

lets hope the remainers are not evicted so the immigrants can move into their house :hehe:

[MB.]

Well I said I found out last week, why would I know about an insignificant little country?

a) it's not a country, it's an overseas territory governed by the United Kingdom government that has as much of a right to vote as you or I do

b) you're calling up to 30,000 people's opinion in the referendum "insignificant" which I think says a lot

[Wizard.]

I don't worry about immigrants I'd rather smug little Remainers leave the country tbh but they feel the same way about Brexiters so it's a divided nation

[Denver]

its sickening how some people get away with belitlling members on her

[MB.]

Thank you. So it could be that a group of 'Remain' supporters lied or even pranked the pollsters that they were 'UKIP' supporters but were intending to vote 'Remain'?

...even if it were a prank (I've heard better), 7% of them voting Remain or not isn't so great in the grand scheme of things anyway, I wouldn't fret

[bots]

gibralter is a tax free state, and it has some apes that spend their days tossing off for the amusement of tourists. Who wouldnt want to live there :shrug:

[Wizard.]

its sickening how some people get away with belitlling members on her

I'll probably get a warning because I'm an aggressive working class benefit claimer with 8 children who sees the Daily Mail as the holy bible and I suck tax payers dry :eyeroll:

[MB.]

/because you just told half the forum to leave the country

[Denver]

im actually planning on moving if its remain

[Wizard.]

im actually planning on moving if its remain

Don't worry I'm going to become an IMMIGRANT in New Zealand the land of THE FREE and the kiwi

[MB.]

im actually planning on moving if its remain

If all the Turks come and push you out like you fear they will, you wouldn't have much of a choice to begin with

(you'd also then be an immigrant yourself but hey, technicalities)

[Withano]

Has anyone ever voted in any of these polls? I keep hearing the stats thrown about but who is voting in them? Invite only? Visiters to a certain website? People they phone at random?