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Macie Lightfoot
14-01-2017, 04:57 PM
I'm a little disappointed that Kelly Jean Czarnecki didn't get any special recognition at all throughout your Gabon posts.

TomC
14-01-2017, 04:58 PM
I'm a little disappointed that Kelly Jean Czarnecki didn't get any special recognition at all throughout your Gabon posts.

She clocked Ace :clap1:

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Bob winning more money and Sugar winning nothing :omgno:

TomC
14-01-2017, 05:03 PM
I can't blimmin believe I am two seasons from HvV, it always seemed like such a distant thing to get to, but I raced through Season 13 onwards

JerseyWins
14-01-2017, 05:15 PM
Bob is such a random & disappointing winner. I can't even call him awful or bad... I thought he was just kinda there and not too likable though.

rk3388
14-01-2017, 06:21 PM
I think I preferred Gabon to China :S

Crystal/Kenny are such an unlikely duo (An olympic Athlete whos a horrible competitor and a scrawny video game player) and my favourite duo in Survivor

rk3388
14-01-2017, 06:22 PM
Sorry I would have been commenting a lot on the Gabon season but I've been gone the past few days

rk3388
14-01-2017, 06:22 PM
Crystal, Sugar, Kenny, Randy, Ace, Matty, Susie were just all great characters imo and yeah the only thing that ruins the season a bit is the winner unfortunately

DouglasS
14-01-2017, 06:25 PM
I didn't like season 18 so much - it's a bit of a 'middle of the road' season, but I can barely remember much of what happens - except thinking of one person

MB.
14-01-2017, 06:29 PM
I'm currently re-watching season 18 and can vouch for that

TomC
14-01-2017, 06:54 PM
I think I preferred Gabon to China :S

Crystal/Kenny are such an unlikely duo (An olympic Athlete whos a horrible competitor and a scrawny video game player) and my favourite duo in Survivor

Crystal and Kenny were really great <3 I do think I've decided China is my fave tho. Gabon is probably somewhere between 6th and 8th

MB.
14-01-2017, 06:56 PM
(I never found Kenny that great)

EspeonBB
14-01-2017, 07:23 PM
Gabon is a hot mess which is why I love it so much :love: Crystal, Randy & Sugar <3

TomC
14-01-2017, 07:34 PM
(I never found Kenny that great)

Yeah it was mainly Crystal and the interaction between them than Kenny himself

MB.
14-01-2017, 07:41 PM
Susie, Crystal and Dan (RIP) would probably be my top three from Gabon, but then you've got people who contribute on vastly different levels such as Randy, Kelly, heck, even Gillian and her elephant dung, plus a couple of genuinely quite likeable people (in this season? I know right?) like Matty and, er, I'll come back to you on that one... and finally you've got the likes of Sugar*, Ace and Corinne who... erm, definitely exist, but who the season might not be anywhere as good without, so it's definitely one of my favourite cross-sections they've put together

*no, I'm not huge on Sugar - possibly because I occasionally appreciate Corinne's tryhardyness and completely affected bitchiness more than the next person (but only occasionally), who can say? I'd still rank Sugar above Corinne, but the show's attempt to edit her as a hero when I think the opposite would make her a much more interesting character strikes me as weird. Going down that route, is there anything in a possible Sugar/Adam comparison being made? Or am I going completely mad?

TomC
14-01-2017, 07:49 PM
Susie, Crystal and Dan (RIP) would probably be my top three from Gabon, but then you've got people who contribute on vastly different levels such as Randy, Kelly, heck, even Gillian and her elephant dung, plus a couple of genuinely quite likeable people (in this season? I know right?) like Matty and, er, I'll come back to you on that one... and finally you've got the likes of Sugar*, Ace and Corinne who... erm, definitely exist, but who the season might not be anywhere as good without, so it's definitely one of my favourite cross-sections they've put together

*no, I'm not huge on Sugar - possibly because I occasionally appreciate Corinne's tryhardyness and completely affected bitchiness more than the next person (but only occasionally), who can say? I'd still rank Sugar above Corinne, but the show's attempt to edit her as a hero when I think the opposite would make her a much more interesting character strikes me as weird. Going down that route, is there anything in a possible Sugar/Adam comparison being made? Or am I going completely mad?

I do think Gabon is very rich in characters. There is something not right about this season though. I guess it's just for the sheer messiness that everyone talks about.

Personally I think China is the most well-balanced, engaging cast of any season. It just feels like the characters complemented each other so perfectly.

JerseyWins
14-01-2017, 08:09 PM
Yeah that's a good point about China. Although I'd say Gabon kinda fits that as well. Either way, I really liked both China & Gabon but China is a definite top 5 season for me (I think anyway) while Gabon isn't exactly on that level but close enough.

When I finish all the seasons I'll probably try my best to rank them all.

TomC
14-01-2017, 08:16 PM
Yeah that's a good point about China. Although I'd say Gabon kinda fits that as well. Either way, I really liked both China & Gabon but China is a definite top 5 season for me (I think anyway) while Gabon isn't exactly on that level but close enough.

When I finish all the seasons I'll probably try my best to rank them all.

Yeah I'm gonna try and do an in-depth ranking, if people care about my opinions enough lol

TomC
14-01-2017, 11:12 PM
omg Jeff was a dick to Sandy and Sierra

rk3388
15-01-2017, 03:05 AM
I think Tocantins is another underrated season. That one has quite a few characters as well.

Macie Lightfoot
15-01-2017, 03:10 AM
Tocantins is a season of Survivor.

rk3388
15-01-2017, 03:29 AM
Sandy, Tyson, Stephen, Coach, Sierra, Taj all brought something to the show imo

MB.
15-01-2017, 12:19 PM
Sandy, Tyson, Stephen, Coach, Sierra, Taj all brought something to the show imo

Well, that's six out of sixteen

TomC
15-01-2017, 04:40 PM
I really don't like Coach

JerseyWins
15-01-2017, 06:58 PM
Don't forget J.T. :clap1:

Sierra was the main likable one on the Coach tribe. Erinn had her little breakthrough and Tyson, as much as I didn't like him at the time, did have a few highlights (I probably have to say the same about Coach too although I practically never found him entertaining personally).

reece(:
15-01-2017, 07:10 PM
Sandy, Tyson, Stephen, Coach, Sierra, Taj all brought something to the show imo

Erinn and Sydney! Lowkey Debbie

Macie Lightfoot
15-01-2017, 07:11 PM
JT on Tocantins is....... pretty boring lol. The embodiment of straight white male privilege. He was just there.

I haven't seen Tocantins since it aired but if I had to pick a favorite I think it'd be Debbie???

JerseyWins
15-01-2017, 09:18 PM
Not the straight white male privilege card again. But nah, that's a decent description for like a Colby. Incredibly bland with no personality, seems to take himself and everything too seriously, etc. The white privilege card can definitely be played there. J.T. actually had a personality, was funny from time to time and was a quality game player.

Lolol @ Debbie

MB.
15-01-2017, 09:22 PM
I mean, there's something in the fact that Brendan decided, five minutes after meeting JT, that he'd willingly throw away his entire game for him

MB.
15-01-2017, 09:22 PM
And Debbie's a top three Tocantins-er based on her intro shot alone

TomC
15-01-2017, 09:48 PM
Not the straight white male privilege card again. But nah, that's a decent description for like a Colby. Incredibly bland with no personality, seems to take himself and everything too seriously, etc. The white privilege card can definitely be played there. J.T. actually had a personality, was funny from time to time and was a quality game player.

Lolol @ Debbie

Tbf I'm pretty sure J.T. is in HvV (don't confirm, I want some unpredictability about the S20 cast), but the first thing I thought was why would you need Colby and J.T. lol

I quite like Debbie too, her being excited about Sierra and Brendan building a 'fire pit' >>>

Macie Lightfoot
15-01-2017, 09:59 PM
Not the straight white male privilege card again. But nah, that's a decent description for like a Colby. Incredibly bland with no personality, seems to take himself and everything too seriously, etc. The white privilege card can definitely be played there. J.T. actually had a personality, was funny from time to time and was a quality game player.

Lolol @ Debbie

I think JT definitely played his cards well in Tocantins but he absolutely had more to work with by being the Southern country boy that people implicitly wanted to trust. Like MB said, Brendan went on a Reward with JT and promptly decided to throw his game away for him since he was already rich and didn't need the money. Coach decided immediately that JT was A Good Person and henceforth interprets JT's actions to further his narrative as a form of confirmation bias (a tactic which Coach proves to do every season he's on, but that's neither here nor there), and his whole mindset of Taking Warriors To The End is literally about taking strong men to the end. Again, JT definitely worked these things well to his advantage but he had plenty of opportunities that not everyone had just on the virtue of being a decently attractive straight white man that people would want to be led by. That's not an angle that people like Shirin or Cydney can work, or one that they even have the opportunity to.

TomC
15-01-2017, 10:26 PM
Sierra and Taj in the Exile Alliance together <3 I'm liking Debbie and Sandy too. Stephen, JT and Tyson are good.

TomC
15-01-2017, 10:45 PM
Sandy :( I liked her, Sydney kinda sucks

reece(:
15-01-2017, 10:51 PM
http://oi42.tinypic.com/jrxlq0.jpg

TomC
16-01-2017, 03:45 PM
I didn't expect Spencer to go this early, just because I'm sure there's a Spencer from Survivor that everyone talks about lol, and it can't be this one, I guess there is another more infamous Spencer?

JerseyWins
16-01-2017, 07:51 PM
Yeah but you actually watched the better Spencer (as irrelevant as he was). :joker:

MB.
16-01-2017, 07:56 PM
That's an understatement

TomC
16-01-2017, 09:03 PM
Spencer was v irrel

TomC
16-01-2017, 10:06 PM
I think I'm gonna need to take a break after Tocantins, I want to go into HvV with lots of enthusiasm, and right now that's waning.

On a positive note, Taj making it to final 10 :clap1: Annoyed that JT found out about the idol!

TomC
16-01-2017, 10:47 PM
I am sooo confused about what's going on with the game in the first episode of the post-merge... Why have Taj and Stephen suddenly jumped ship on Sierra and Brandon? Is it because Coach allied himself with JT opening up an opportunity for the outnumbered Jalapaos?

TomC
17-01-2017, 02:45 PM
Just seen Brendan's boot episode. This season actually sucks quite profoundly... It just feels like nothing big has happened, and the characters are weak af compared to the last three seasons

JerseyWins
17-01-2017, 03:45 PM
I think I somewhat liked the season. The cast is very average overall but Coach/Tyson/Debbie were fine "villains" for me to root against and I did reeeally like a few people (particularly JT & Sierra).

TomC
17-01-2017, 04:17 PM
Okay I'm an idiot - I should have stayed away from previous forum posts but after a browse in LukeB's first watch thread I thought I knew the entire cast bar one so I caved in and went ahead and looked at the full cast.

I actually thought Natalie Bolton was in HvV, but it turns out she's not and Sugar is. The only other surprise was Randy.

I am disappointed that I won't have the surprise element! Iirc I didn't know that Richard, Rudy, Jenna L, Tina, Amber, Rob C, Jenna M and Rupert were returning for All-Stars.

To have three returnees from Tocantins kinda sucks.

TomC
17-01-2017, 07:16 PM
Asshat Tyson getting blindsided :clap1:

TomC
17-01-2017, 07:17 PM
I really do find Coach insufferable tbh with all his dragon/warrior shyte

reece(:
17-01-2017, 08:31 PM
You still have Samoa before HvsV! Gl with that one :joker:

JerseyWins
17-01-2017, 08:41 PM
Samoa is a very good season of Survivor :clap1:

MB.
17-01-2017, 08:44 PM
Back in the real world, however

reece(:
17-01-2017, 08:46 PM
Samoa is a very good season of Survivor :clap1:

Half of the cast being UTR says otherwise

TomC
17-01-2017, 09:02 PM
I loved Sierra and Debbie's argument :joker:

Sierra :clap1:

TomC
17-01-2017, 09:03 PM
Coach lying to JT about Sierra 'wanting to get back with the Timbiras' :bored: Hate him rlly

JerseyWins
17-01-2017, 09:53 PM
Half of the cast being UTR says otherwise
Not the few that actually mattered

reece(:
17-01-2017, 10:07 PM
I loved Sierra and Debbie's argument :joker:

Sierra :clap1:

Queens

TomC
17-01-2017, 11:11 PM
Sierra </3 Her exposing Coach's lies :love:

I know JT wins but ranking the F6, Debbie>Taj>Stephen>JT>Erinn>Coach

TomC
17-01-2017, 11:12 PM
Sierra and Debbie's mini-feud was messie

TomC
18-01-2017, 01:10 PM
Taj ripping Jeff's arm off when she found out her husband was coming to camp :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
18-01-2017, 03:10 PM
Not the few that actually mattered

I mean...

Brett didn't exist at all but he was *BELOVED* and one IC win away from winning a million bucks. A little problematic if you ask me

TomC
20-01-2017, 12:00 AM
Hmm I wasn't really a fan of this season tbh. It just felt really quite uneventful and the cast was a bit wishy-washy.

Tocantins:
Sierra
Taj
Debbie
Stephen
Sandy
J.T.
Erinn
Sydney
Candace
Carolina
Jerry
Spencer
Brendan
Tyson
Coach

Stephen really killed his chances with the FTC performance but I do like him. Sierra, Taj and Debbie <3 Coach is probably one of the most annoying players ever tbh, and I dread his S20 return.


Anyhow, I think that's me on a Survivor break now! I'm sure I'll be back on it in a few weeks, gonna enjoy some AHS for now

JerseyWins
20-01-2017, 05:17 AM
I actually like Tyson more in hindsight even though I thought he was pretty annoying at first when I watched him in Tocantins. Like the naked stuff & the way he acted sometimes was just stupid but when I think about it he's so awkward & sarcastic in a douchey way that it's funny to me. I'd have to re-watch Tocantins to see how much my opinion has really changed though (which I'm not going to do) - and I think I might like Debbie more in hindsight too.

Coach on the other hand is just not very likable or entertaining, in a funny way, ironic way, or anything.


Decided to find a video to refresh my memory on Tyson in Tocantins:

Ix8zOfPtjh0

Eh, I only really found him funny from 2:09 to 2:55 so my initial thoughts in Tocantins might be right. But I think I mainly disliked him at first because of his association with Coach and how against Sierra he was which was a top 1-3 favorite of mine all season.

TomC
23-01-2017, 09:50 PM
Okay I'm back already lol.

Just watched the first episode of Samoa. It was pretty entertaining and the cast seems promising, but I am already seeing the airtime dominance of Russell. He and Ben were kinda dicks to Marisa.

I just watched the opening titles and I swear there were about five people who didn't get a second of airtime?

TomC
26-02-2017, 02:52 PM
I've restarted Samoa - up to Episode 5.

Russell is so annoying. But like in a tryhard way. And it's ridiculous how he's always the focus of the next time/previously sections.

My favourites are Ashley, Shambo and Liz.

Don't like either Russells, Dave or Linda. Ben was ****ing awful.

VanessaFeltz.
26-02-2017, 03:00 PM
I've restarted Samoa - up to Episode 5.

Russell is so annoying. But like in a tryhard way. And it's ridiculous how he's always the focus of the next time/previously sections.

My favourites are Ashley, Shambo and Liz.

Don't like either Russells, Dave or Linda. Ben was ****ing awful.

Who is linda :joker:

TomC
26-02-2017, 03:05 PM
Who is linda :joker:

Is that not her name? :laugh: The older dark haired woman on Galu

MB.
26-02-2017, 03:14 PM
Linda :love:

MB.
26-02-2017, 03:15 PM
(I assume you mean Luarra. I mean Laura)

DouglasS
26-02-2017, 03:28 PM
My favourites this season were Russel and Laura - the only two players who actually played.

Shambo suffered with severe jealousy regarding Laura.

JerseyWins
26-02-2017, 05:38 PM
Shambo :love:

Macie Lightfoot
26-02-2017, 06:10 PM
My favourites this season were Russel and Laura - the only two players who actually played.

Shambo suffered with severe jealousy regarding Laura.

Nataie played. And won :love:

MB.
26-02-2017, 06:12 PM
Natalie still plaguing Probst's nightmares to this very day <3

JerseyWins
26-02-2017, 06:51 PM
I don't think dreaming about Natalie would be a nightmare. :whistle:

MB.
26-02-2017, 06:52 PM
Eh, he's too busy dreaming about Hali

TomC
26-02-2017, 09:55 PM
Knowing that Russell makes it far in this season, I'm reminded a lot of Boston Rob in AS. You just get this feeling the game's being handed to them.

TomC
26-02-2017, 09:59 PM
Not Liz's demise :( She was the only one that came close to clocking Russell

DouglasS
26-02-2017, 11:45 PM
Nataie played. And won :love:

I'm really happy she won as I don't personally like Russel, he plays a great game to get to finals, possibly one of the best but doesn't manage his jury well and so will never win - I think he played the game well to get to finals though, and in turn I suppose people who stuck with him (knowing they'd beat him in turn played well I suppose).

reece(:
27-02-2017, 12:17 PM
I've restarted Samoa - up to Episode 5.

Russell is so annoying. But like in a tryhard way. And it's ridiculous how he's always the focus of the next time/previously sections.

My favourites are Ashley, Shambo and Liz.

Don't like either Russells, Dave or Linda. Ben was ****ing awful.
Watch the non-Russell edit

https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/3kjtjj/entire_reedit_of_survivor_samoa_uploaded_finally/

TomC
27-02-2017, 10:22 PM
Samoa is a really weird season. Obviously Russell in particular and to an extent Shambo dominate the airtime, both of which are very marmite characters. Personally, Shambo is okay, Russell is awful.

Then you have Natalie - vaguely likeable, Jaison - faded away, Dave & Laura - unlikeable

The other five or so are truly dull or have had no airtime? Who knows, maybe I'd like Kelly if she'd had more than a scene of airtime?

Natalie is my favourite (midway through episode 9) but I honestly don't feel strongly about anyone. Not the strongest season. Bring me HvV!!

TomC
27-02-2017, 10:31 PM
noooo ****ing way did Russell just find another idol

TomC
27-02-2017, 10:41 PM
Laura winning immunity again D:

You had one ****ing job Shambo!!

TomC
01-03-2017, 11:02 PM
I liked John :/ Wish he'd stayed. My thoughts on the Final 8:

Russell - I mean he is quite different to any other player but the overbearing quality of airtime he has is offputting and he himself is just pretty annoying.
Dave - Literally no character development at all for this guy apart from the odd dickish moment?
Jaison - Likeable enough, standout moment was him standing up to Ben, and I liked it how he was wary of Russell wanting to blindside John, but he's pretty UTR.
Mick - Hardly had any airtime
Brett - LITERALLy who are you? I've never seen someone get to Episode 11 and have so little airtime
Natalie - She's probably the most objectively likeable person there. She has had somewhat of a story arc which is nice to see in this season. My pick for winner.
Shambo - I like Shambo, but she is quite overbearing. I do feel sorry for her cos she is totally used by whichever side she's playing on.
Monica - Very UTR, but her association with Laura turns me off her.

TomC
03-03-2017, 10:08 PM
Samoa is definitely up there with Thailand, Vanuatu (sorry!), Cook Islands and Fiji in terms of how bad the final 5 is

And why am I finding myself wanting Brett to win? He literally only started getting airtime two episodes before the final, yet there's something very likeable about him, and it would be cool to see someone actually win from a string of immunity victories for once.

TomC
03-03-2017, 11:21 PM
Overall a pretty underwhelming season. The cast was weak - or at least the editing would have us think.

Samoa:
Natalie
Liz
Brett
Shambo
Betsy
Ashley
John
Monica
Jaison
Mick
Marisa
Yasmin
Kelly
Laura
Mike
Other Russell
Erik
Russell Hantz
Dave
Ben

Really strange season tbh. On to HvV!

Mess @ Russell getting choked up at the Reunion cos Jeff insinuated he wasn't a good social player, and also that Natalie's key move in the game was 'riding his back'

Macie Lightfoot
04-03-2017, 12:44 AM
okay but Vanuatu's final five had Eliza AND Scout AND Twila??????

JerseyWins
04-03-2017, 12:53 AM
^ AND Chris

Not gonna lie though for a pretty poor season, at least Vanuatu had a decently solid final 5.

TomC
04-03-2017, 12:44 PM
45 mins into HvV and already really enjoying it! So happy to see Sugar, Randy, Boston Rob, Courtney, James, Stephenie, Cirie and Jerri. Kinda indifferent towards Colby, Tom, Tyson, JT and especially Candice and downright don't want to watch Coach again lol.

TomC
04-03-2017, 07:17 PM
Really good first episode. Sugar tho :( <\3

TomC
04-03-2017, 10:15 PM
Episode 2 thoughts: I am really liking the Villains. Randy is objectively hilarious: 'she's a waitress from NYC and now she's a construction worker?', really liking Rob and Jerri as well. On the Heroes, it's really interesting seeing James spiralling into this villainous role, and I actually did appreciate the defense Colby and Tom (who are usually both wallpaper) gave to Steph at TC. Really gutted Stepehenie went, not here for a repeat of the dominance of the Cirie/James/Amanda kinda group we saw in Micronesia.

TomC
04-03-2017, 11:36 PM
Not Randy now :( Loving this season but really not happy with the first three boots. Randy was one of the most unique, interesting characters in this season.

TomC
04-03-2017, 11:38 PM
Also I must make clear how much I value Jerri's participation in this season. She's just a breath of fresh air next to the likes of Parvati, Candice and Amanda, and truly is a great representative for the old school seasons. Having said that, she'll probably be the next to go.

TomC
05-03-2017, 10:53 AM
Cirie is great and massively entertaining but omg her blindside was amazing :love:

TomC
05-03-2017, 04:13 PM
Jeff developed from 'nice guy host' to 'wind-up nobhead' over the course of the first 20 seasons amiright? His worst moments from HvV so far were:

'Sugar, you lost the challenge, and right on cue, you're crying'
and
in response to Colby explaining why the heroes rejected the chocolate, saying they want to get to the challenge, 'I got the message brother, we'll go when I'm ready'

God what an ego

Macie Lightfoot
05-03-2017, 04:19 PM
lol sis this is just the beginning

TomC
05-03-2017, 04:58 PM
^ This distresses me. What a cock.

TomC
05-03-2017, 05:03 PM
Never thought I'd have strong feelings towards Tom, Colby and J.T., but I'm actually really liking all three this time.

And just as I was writing this Tom gets voted out :(

Danielle needs some airtime.

TomC
05-03-2017, 09:46 PM
Boston Rob </3 I'm pretty sure Russell gets to the end, simply from my memories of YT videos, and that really sucks.

Watching Episode 8 next and hoping it's the merge.

Lowkey annoyed Jerri sided with Russell, Parvati etc. Rob, Sandra & Courtney >>>

TomC
06-03-2017, 10:11 PM
Omg that move of handing over the idol to the villains is amazingly bad :joker: Hoping this means the villains can get into dominance at F9.

This is definitely Parvati's best stint yet, liking her quite a lot this time.

TomC
06-03-2017, 10:36 PM
Episode 10 is one of the most exciting episodes to see what happens in terms of the game I can remember on Survivor.

TomC
06-03-2017, 11:06 PM
Okay, that was amazing. I officially love Parvati now :love: And Jerri surviving :love:

reece(:
07-03-2017, 04:06 AM
Legend P

TomC
07-03-2017, 10:43 PM
Danielle and Amanda's fight was a scream :laugh: Danielle>>>

Jerri equalling her AO finishing spot :clap1: Hoping she survives next episode too

TomC
07-03-2017, 11:37 PM
Russell's gameplay in this episode is so pathetic. Honestly, it's so easy to see through him, and thank god Parv, Danielle and Jerri all do. Just wish they'd ****in get rid of him

TomC
07-03-2017, 11:45 PM
Noooo </3 I really love Danielle, and so I'm pretty gutted. Russell ****ing Hantz sucks so much.

It may have been a shrewd move for her game (idk?) but WTF JERRI

TomC
08-03-2017, 10:07 PM
Sandra and Parvati are owning Russell this episode :love:

"Sandra, are you with me or are you against me?"
"I'm against you Russell."

TomC
08-03-2017, 10:17 PM
Sandra's idol play :clap1:

This F5 is awesome in terms of star quality, character strength, and just the general storyline of the season. Villian-come-hero Sandra :love:... Supervillian Russell...strategic queen Parvati...breakout star Jerri...and Colby can be the posterboy for old-school Survivor I guess?...

TomC
08-03-2017, 11:12 PM
That FIC was so ****ing tense :joker: Really wanted Jerri to have a secured spot

TomC
09-03-2017, 12:10 AM
****ing awesome season! Definitely one of the best. Whilst it potentially lacked stand-out or groundbreaking moments, it is just the character dynamics and storyline from beginning to end that really make this season. Honestly, nearly everyone came out likeable.

What a far-cry from AS this season was. It's actually quite bewildering? This season was just so much more of a perfect mix of everything you want from a Survivor season.

Heroes vs Villains:
Jerri
Danielle
Sandra
Parvati
Boston Rob
Tom
Sugar
Courtney
Randy
Candice
Stephenie
J.T.
Amanda
Cirie
Coach
Colby
Rupert
Tyson
James
Russell

I really appreciated Jerri this time. I just think she's a lovely person, but she didn't have the game to win.
Again, I appreciated Danielle so much more this time. She's actually pretty funny, and I liked her standing up to Russell and fighting Amanda for the idol.
Sandra also improved. Didn't care for her as much as most seem to in PI, but she really became one of this season's biggest heroes.
Parvati is a great player - I think I finally got her this time. It's funny to think how far she came from CI.
I like Rob. >>>>Russell.
I loved it when Tom stood up to James. He really shone as a good guy.
Courtney was disappointingly irrel this time :worry:. Her best moment was calling Jeff 'Jeffrey'.
Candice was sooo much better this time. She came into her own and showed she was actually an intelligent respectable woman.
Randy, Stephenie and Sugar all should have lasted longer.
Amanda is okay, but she's just dull, and didn't deserve to play again :worry:
I've never been that big on Cirie, and this time didn't change anything. She's really entertaining and a great player, but she just has an air of arrogance, and her affiliation with Amanda etc kinda turned me off her in FvF.
Coach grew on me. He really showed a more sensitive side this time.
I liked Rupert for the most part, but he got annoying in his last few episodes.
James sucked this time. Guess he latched onto his own hype?
Need I say anything about Russell? I'm glad he got his comeuppance. WTF is he playing at at reunion.

Daniel-X
09-03-2017, 12:24 AM
Justice 4 Candice!

(I've watched that cat fight clip again about three times cos I forgot how funny it was :joker: although #TeamAmanda)

Macie Lightfoot
09-03-2017, 12:27 AM
Russell Hantz is the worst thing to happen to Survivor

TomC
09-03-2017, 12:28 AM
Justice 4 Candice!

(I've watched that cat fight clip again about three times cos I forgot how funny it was :joker: although #TeamAmanda)

:omgno:

LukeB
09-03-2017, 12:30 AM
My favourite season, i felt jealous you were watching it for the first time. It was my first season I watched which was like 2 years ago.

TomC
10-03-2017, 09:59 PM
Just started Ep 2 and the only question I have thus far in Nicaragua is: why, in the 'All Survivor Intros' video, is a nice unique version of the theme tune used, but in the actual episodes it is just the Borneo theme? I'm not complainin' though, it's pretty cool having the original theme back.

I liked Wendy, wish she'd stayed.

TomC
10-03-2017, 10:40 PM
Not 'I'll get this out the way dude, are you gay?' D:

'I've probably had more beautiful gfs than you'

Messy

reece(:
10-03-2017, 10:50 PM
MESSY tribal

TomC
11-03-2017, 09:50 PM
I can't decide whether Naonka is amazing or horrendous. Ha obsession with Kelly's fake leg is concerning

JerseyWins
12-03-2017, 12:51 AM
(she's both)

MB.
12-03-2017, 12:58 AM
She's beauty and she's grace, she's Miss United States

TomC
12-03-2017, 07:57 PM
Yve </3 Dan should have gone

Macie Lightfoot
12-03-2017, 08:15 PM
WRONG.

TomC
12-03-2017, 09:29 PM
Wow Queen Kelly Purple gets her first airtime of the season in the form of a 20second confessional in Episode 7 :clap1:

Jane, Brenda, Naonka, Holly and Sash are my favourites.

TomC
12-03-2017, 09:32 PM
Omg Naonka "I'm not a farm person, I don't play with cows' nipples to try and get milk out...although at least I can say I touched a cow's nipple" :joker:

TomC
13-03-2017, 10:49 PM
Fabio really sucked towards Alina saying 'this is why people don't trust you and think you're dangerous' just because she was playing the game and winning in a way that didn't suit him

rk3388
14-03-2017, 02:04 AM
OH my gosh Na Onka :joker:

I wanted to hate her (she was pretty horrid to other people), but I couldn't help but laugh at everything she said :joker:

JerseyWins
14-03-2017, 04:49 AM
OH my gosh Na Onka :joker:

I wanted to hate her (she was pretty horrid to other people), but I couldn't help but laugh at everything she said :joker:
This :joker:

Although I rarely care about people being horrible on a show anyway if there's a funny element to them or they have charisma.

TomC
14-03-2017, 10:54 PM
okayyy wtf happens in Episode 10 really wanna find out but have to wait till tomorrow night

MB.
14-03-2017, 11:05 PM
Wendy Jo sacrifices a goat and leaves it at camp a la The KLF at the Brits

reece(:
14-03-2017, 11:09 PM
Episode 11 is the messy one

MB.
14-03-2017, 11:11 PM
And yet it somehow isn't the episode where half the cast get executed at a reward challenge

TomC
17-03-2017, 10:33 PM
Messy episode, I liked both the quitters. Kelly should have had more airtime. This F7 really isn't ideal, Jane's the only properly good one, and I don't think she'll get close to winning.

MB.
17-03-2017, 10:35 PM
Jane's the only properly good one

http://31.media.tumblr.com/cfd0a39be0307da1af69ce326a66028a/tumblr_mj5p3qkOs01qlvwnco1_400.gif

TomC
17-03-2017, 10:37 PM
http://31.media.tumblr.com/cfd0a39be0307da1af69ce326a66028a/tumblr_mj5p3qkOs01qlvwnco1_400.gif

who is :worry:

MB.
17-03-2017, 10:45 PM
Holly Hoffman, Dan, Chase.. even Fabio and maybe Sash have their moments? Also Benry's there. idk Jane's not anywhere near the top half for this final seven alone

TomC
17-03-2017, 10:47 PM
Holly Hoffman, Dan, Chase, Brenda 1.0... even Fabio and maybe Sash have their moments? idk Jane's not anywhere near the top half for this final seven alone

What's good about Dan and Chase? :worry: And Brenda's gone. Fabio really sucks and Holly is not as good in the last few episodes.

Jane is 1, Sash and Holly are joint 2, the rest suck

MB.
17-03-2017, 10:50 PM
(lol oops sorry I completely forgot the Nicaragua boot order there never mind)

JerseyWins
17-03-2017, 10:51 PM
I just remember that Fabio is a legend. :fan:

TomC
17-03-2017, 10:53 PM
I just remember that Fabio is a legend. :fan:

You need a re-watch in that case

TomC
17-03-2017, 10:55 PM
I'm kinda losing interest in Nicaragua now, and this doesn't bode well considering next is a season that is universally panned, followed by a series with freakin Coach and Ozzy.

Can someone actually explain why Coach and Ozzy came back? Is there some kinda rationale? It seems so ****ing random

MB.
17-03-2017, 10:55 PM
In a word, no

Macie Lightfoot
17-03-2017, 10:58 PM
smh Dan Lembo's a national treasure

TomC
18-03-2017, 10:49 AM
Jane </3 I felt so bad for her when she found out they were switching

JerseyWins
18-03-2017, 05:19 PM
:joker: Jane was at least better than ok in my book, maybe close to a great character. Pretty funny for sure.

TomC
18-03-2017, 08:15 PM
:joker: Jane was at least better than ok in my book, maybe close to a great character. Pretty funny for sure.

Agreed

TomC
18-03-2017, 11:59 PM
Not sure how to feel about this season. Certainly far inferior to HvV but also far from the bottom of the pile. It's just a bit meh... Few stand-out moments (Naonka-Kelly fight?) and few stand-out characters but watchable enough.

Nicaragua:
Jane
Brenda
Holly
Purple Kelly
Sash
Naonka
Marty
Yve
Jill
Wendy Jo
Jimmy J
Kelly B
Alina
Fabio
Benry
Dan
Jimmy T
Tyrone
Chase
Shannon

Okay yeah doing these rankings makes me realise how meh the casting was. Purple Kelly is underrated. My rankings are based mainly on likeability, but Naonka, Jane, and maybe Holly and Sash were the only character standouts?

Onto RI now :worry:

reece(:
19-03-2017, 12:01 AM
Jimmy T and Tyrone are far too low!

TomC
19-03-2017, 12:03 AM
Jimmy T and Tyrone are far too low!

Jimmy T I forgot ha and Tyrone is too low impact

TomC
19-03-2017, 12:09 AM
I can't believe ****ing Russell is coming back for a third season out of four

TomC
19-03-2017, 09:14 PM
Fransesqua </3

Considering this is panned as the worst season ever, that was a pretty strong opener. Messy TC. Just a shame Francesca has gone and I really like Kristina. Phillip sucks a lot but is entertaining.

Macie Lightfoot
19-03-2017, 09:19 PM
Dan Lembo is WAY too low

TomC
19-03-2017, 09:51 PM
Dan Lembo is WAY too low

I've gathered Dan has quite a wee appreciation society but don't quite understand why?

Macie Lightfoot
19-03-2017, 10:01 PM
His final words, his terribad challenge performances, his entire relationship with Holly, bottom-goddessing all the way to fifth place, and just generally being someone who was always hilarious whenever he was on screen.

http://usineaproblemes.fr/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/28amfle.gif
https://38.media.tumblr.com/0a8aca23a1432ba35f03962f55cb56e5/tumblr_njjsdoZZG61sq0qzoo2_500.gif

TomC
19-03-2017, 10:15 PM
His final words and those gifs are good. Wasn't so keen on hsi jury speech tho

rk3388
20-03-2017, 12:16 AM
Phillip! Under-rated. Another person I wanted to hate but found too hilarious.
Oh Fransesqua - could've made this season a little better had you stayed

rk3388
20-03-2017, 12:17 AM
Kristina was just OK for me - Rather Fran had stayed over her that first TC

rk3388
20-03-2017, 12:17 AM
And Dan was awful - he was boring, and his final words were pathetic

TomC
20-03-2017, 10:13 PM
Russell going :clap1:

Stephanie is awful. Like a proper b*tch. Liking Sarita based on the little we've seen: "Stephanie, I'm voting for you because you're so misguided and SO rude!"

RI ain't half bad so far.

JerseyWins
20-03-2017, 10:23 PM
It gets better.

Macie Lightfoot
20-03-2017, 10:26 PM
don't lie to poor Tom, he's going through enough right now.

LukeB
20-03-2017, 10:27 PM
Russell going :clap1:

Stephanie is awful. Like a proper b*tch. Liking Sarita based on the little we've seen: "Stephanie, I'm voting for you because you're so misguided and SO rude!"

RI ain't half bad so far.

Not the best season but it's alright. I enjoyed it and would re-watch it myself.

TomC
21-03-2017, 11:13 PM
lol @ Russell 'respecting the game' when his exit is one of the least dignified I've seen in Survivor

Kristina going <\3 Not enjoying the dominance of Rob's posse, giving me All Stars teas

TomC
22-03-2017, 10:35 PM
Matt's dominance in the duels is getting really annoying. THREE goods characters (Fran, Kristina and Steph) have been lost to that beige bible basher

reece(:
22-03-2017, 10:35 PM
Matt's dominance in the duels is getting really annoying. THREE goods characters (Fran, Kristina and Steph) have been lost to that beige bible basher

Three legends </3

MB.
22-03-2017, 10:39 PM
I think you made a mistake, you accidentally called Stephanie a legend?

reece(:
22-03-2017, 10:52 PM
Yes, queen of the wild

http://i.imgur.com/il2MDu0.jpg?1

TomC
22-03-2017, 10:52 PM
I hated Stephanie for the early episodes, but I grew to like her as an underdog and appreciate her as an interesting character.

Sarita is the only truly good castaway left on Zapatera. Quite like Julie from Zapatera too, and Andrea from the other tribe too. Philip is great if only for being an amazing character.

Ashley really sucks.

The grant guy seems really pathetic? Like he's just there as Rob's wingman/puppet/Amber?

TomC
22-03-2017, 10:56 PM
I've realised I only like Boston Rob when he's an underdog - hence why he's bad in AS and especially RI so far, but really great in Marquesas, and HvV to an extent.

Honestly him along with the posse of Grant, Ashley and Natalie are one of the worst alliances I can think of.

Macie Lightfoot
22-03-2017, 11:06 PM
Even Francesca and Kristina were like... not even GOOD, just marginally better than the rest of the people they were unfortunately put on a tribe with.

RI's a rough one though. If you're sick of Rob's dominance and you haven't even hit the merge yet... spoilers not spoilers but you're in for a rough ****ing ride if you haven't figured out by now.

TomC
22-03-2017, 11:10 PM
Not Sarita being voted out by the beige Zapateras. D:

And this I think is the point I understand how RI turns into a very, very bad season after a reasonably strong start.

Hoping Sarita comes back but doubt she will.

TomC
22-03-2017, 11:34 PM
Even Francesca and Kristina were like... not even GOOD, just marginally better than the rest of the people they were unfortunately put on a tribe with.

RI's a rough one though. If you're sick of Rob's dominance and you haven't even hit the merge yet... spoilers not spoilers but you're in for a rough ****ing ride if you haven't figured out by now.

oh yeah dw, Rob winning this season is a spoiler I've known for a long time! I think that made me notice his dominance more tbh

TomC
23-03-2017, 01:13 PM
welp at redemption island starting again

TomC
23-03-2017, 01:41 PM
Can someone tell me who voted for who at the Episode 8 TC??

Matt is such a ****ing idiot. Deserves to lose the first duel.

VanessaFeltz.
23-03-2017, 02:21 PM
Can someone tell me who voted for who at the Episode 8 TC??

Matt is such a ****ing idiot. Deserves to lose the first duel.

Matt: Steve
Purple Tribe: Grant
Orange Tribe: Matt

TomC
23-03-2017, 09:59 PM
this season turned ugly pretty quickly. ****ing sick of redemption island, and rob's dominant alliance.

on top of this, the racial stuff in rice wars was so uncomfortable and completely unnecessary from Philip. I'm stunned at Philip calling Steve racist and then saying that 'black men sometimes self-destruct and go bambambam' :umm2:

TomC
23-03-2017, 10:18 PM
Things weren't slanted nearly enough against Phil at TC. The words 'racist' and 'Steve' were mentioned in the same sentence a few too many times for my liking.

Macie Lightfoot
24-03-2017, 12:15 AM
Not to mention "My great great great great great great great grandfather was part Cherokee, so therefore I have visions and wear a shawl and put a feather in my headband and generally appropriate Native American culture. By the way Steve, don't be racist" like what?!?!?!

TomC
24-03-2017, 09:19 PM
Jeff talking about giving the castaways 'love from home' in the final 6 episode of each season gets more nauseating and annoying in equal measures each season

TomC
24-03-2017, 09:32 PM
Damn really wanted Andrea to get that immunity. Wanted to see one of Natalie/Ashley/Grant go

Daniel-X
24-03-2017, 11:44 PM
Jeff talking about giving the castaways 'love from home' in the final 6 episode of each season gets more nauseating and annoying in equal measures each season

I find the 'love from home' episodes really really dull. Probst even said himself that people either love those episodes or hate them. They're really hit or miss for most.

TomC
26-03-2017, 09:46 PM
Ashley and Natalie are so stupid not taking Rob out. Even if he did play his idol in the end.

TomC
26-03-2017, 10:38 PM
Well... the premerge was actually quite good, but when I got to Episode 7 and realised Sarita and Julie were the only good ones left and Sarita was halfway out the door, it severely went downhill. RI should not have been used in the post-merge, and it was just sooo dull.

Redemption Island:
Sarita
Julie
Andrea
Kristina
Francesca
Steve
Stephanie
Mike
Phillip
Ashley
Natalie
Ralph
Grant
David
Rob
Krista
Matthew
Russell

TomC
26-03-2017, 10:40 PM
honestly disgusted to find out ri twist is used again

rk3388
27-03-2017, 12:41 AM
ouch SP is not much better than RI unfortunately :/

DouglasS
27-03-2017, 12:44 AM
If you can get past the S22-S24 gloom you have some good seasons to look forward to - 25, 27 and 28 are probably three of the best for me. I personally enjoyed pre merge of S26 alot and post merge of s29 alot also - so 25-29 are a good run of seasons imo. All better than S21, S22, S23, S24 for me anyways

MB.
27-03-2017, 05:34 AM
ouch SP is not much better than RI unfortunately :/

It kind of is though

reece(:
27-03-2017, 06:30 AM
It's not much better, the religion stuff is on par with Rob's minions on the dire scale

JerseyWins
27-03-2017, 07:20 AM
It kind of is though
Kind of is worse

MB.
27-03-2017, 09:32 AM
Kind of is worse

It's kind of not though

Sophie, Stacey, Christine, Edna and Semhar alone are better than the entire RI cast

JerseyWins
28-03-2017, 04:13 AM
It's kind of not though

Sophie, Stacey, Christine, Edna and Semhar alone are better than the entire RI cast
https://m.popkey.co/6a5eea/rzYv4.gif

MB.
28-03-2017, 08:33 AM
Loving that credible counter-argument!

LemonJam
28-03-2017, 10:23 AM
South Pacific is honestly sooooooo underrated, I wouldn't even compare it to Redemption Island personally.

TomC
28-03-2017, 02:36 PM
Loving that credible counter-argument!

"Well it kind of is though"

TomC
28-03-2017, 07:31 PM
Semhar </3 Don't really like Christine.

TomC
28-03-2017, 08:41 PM
Dawn's comeback winning for ha tribe :clap1:

TomC
28-03-2017, 08:57 PM
omg Stacey's exit :joker:

reece(:
28-03-2017, 09:00 PM
omg Stacey's exit :joker:

A legend

JerseyWins
28-03-2017, 11:13 PM
A legend
http://oi53.tinypic.com/294lwuf.jpg

LukeB
29-03-2017, 12:06 AM
omg Stacey's exit :joker:

The children, 26,22 they will be listening to all the Benjamin Halloween jokes, chucky the cheese jokes. blah they want it. :love:

MB.
29-03-2017, 12:19 AM
http://oi53.tinypic.com/294lwuf.jpg

Boop!

TomC
29-03-2017, 10:18 PM
Hmm not toooo impressed by this season so far. A few great characters, but Stacey went :(

Finding it hard to find someone to root for tbh. Guess Dawn is my favourite?

Still better than RI though.

rk3388
30-03-2017, 04:06 AM
I only didnt mind it that much cause I liked Cochran and Brandon both of which a lot of people despise. Stacey was also great. Dawn was okay. Keith and Whitney DISGUST me

TomC
30-03-2017, 07:48 PM
yeah the religion stuff is pretty bad actually

reece(:
30-03-2017, 07:54 PM
yeah the religion stuff is pretty bad actually
https://68.media.tumblr.com/c4a7cf4d6376c38b2461a3438c556a9d/tumblr_onmeortEeA1uc6xbco4_r3_400.gif

TomC
30-03-2017, 08:20 PM
Lord Farquaad really sucks too

TomC
30-03-2017, 09:11 PM
Cochran is pathetic, but Whitney and Jim are also awful.

Brandon is messy 'just wanna check no one's gettin' aggressive over here :)'

LukeB
30-03-2017, 09:13 PM
]Cochran is pathetic, but Whitney and Jim are also awful.

Brandon is messy 'just wanna check no one's gettin' aggressive over here :)'

Why :suspect:

TomC
30-03-2017, 09:14 PM
Why :suspect:

Maybe pathetic is a bit harsh, but he just kinda cowers in confrontation and has no conviction in his actions, like after he flipped.

TomC
30-03-2017, 09:15 PM
RI twist honestly sucks so bad. A simple tribe swap would be vastly preferable in both seasons; it would probably have prevented the pagonging in RI and it feels like the same might happen this season.

TomC
01-04-2017, 10:53 PM
Edna </3 She really came into her own toward the end of her stay

Oh wow F5 episode looks good

TomC
01-04-2017, 10:54 PM
come back plz edna x

TomC
02-04-2017, 10:21 PM
South Pacific is a middle-tier season. I think what helps it is that it is just perfectly superior to RI. The cast is pretty good, and it did have memorable moments. The gameplay was somewhat lacklustre though.

South Pacific:
Edna
Sophie
Dawn
Ozzy
Brandon
Coach
Stacey
Whitney
Semhar
Albert
Christine
Mikayla
Elyse
Rick
Papa Bear
Cochran
Jim
Keith

I actually really liked Ozzy and Coach this time; each of their best appearances yet. One thing I'll say about this cast is that I struggled to find a strong favourite. Don't think any of these players would make my Top 20.

TomC
02-04-2017, 10:32 PM
I decided to watch Jeff Probst's cast assessment for S24 (I've never known anything about a new player cast beforehand in the past) and it seems like quite a good cast? Apparently this is a season with v unpleasant behaviour tho :worry:

MB.
02-04-2017, 10:47 PM
It's... not a very good cast (there are conspiracy theorists out there who believe that they purposely cast the worst newbies possible in order to get away with having so many returning player seasons afterwards. I'm not one of them), sorry to shatter that image so quickly. But that's not a comment on the season itself, so y'know, have fun!

rk3388
02-04-2017, 11:27 PM
I decided to watch Jeff Probst's cast assessment for S24 (I've never known anything about a new player cast beforehand in the past) and it seems like quite a good cast? Apparently this is a season with v unpleasant behaviour tho :worry:

There are a few good characters! But it probably is one of the nastiest seasons.

DouglasS
02-04-2017, 11:29 PM
s24 cast is awful lol

Macie Lightfoot
02-04-2017, 11:36 PM
One World is just a season full of nothing.

MB.
02-04-2017, 11:40 PM
On the plus side, Tom, you're almost at the season where one eighteenth of the cast are convicted paedophiles!

DouglasS
03-04-2017, 12:13 AM
On the plus side, Tom, you're almost at the season where one eighteenth of the cast are convicted paedophiles!

That season is actually good though.

reece(:
03-04-2017, 12:35 AM
I enjoyed One World.

And Phili <3

TomC
04-04-2017, 09:49 PM
Colton is a bit of a ... character isn't he?

LukeB
04-04-2017, 09:51 PM
Colton is a bit of a ... character isn't he?

he is scum :omgno:

TomC
04-04-2017, 10:01 PM
Yeah his irrational dislike of Bill is pretty offputting

oh, and him calling him 'ghetto trash' ofc

TomC
04-04-2017, 10:19 PM
I always thought Natalie Bolton returned at some point and just found out she doesn't :( Does anyone know if she's been asked?

MB.
04-04-2017, 10:30 PM
Lots of times; she even flew to Samoa as an alternate for Heroes vs. Villains

iirc she was even considered for this current season at one point, so I wouldn't rule out seeing her again (especially if Second Chance II happens soon as Jeff so dearly wants)

TomC
04-04-2017, 10:34 PM
i really really want more awkward ftc chat


wtfff at all the guys going to TC? did everyone event consent to it? This episode is really dumb

I've read about some uncomfortable OW pre-merge moment, does that refer to the Colton/Bill conflict? Or have i not seen it yet

MB.
04-04-2017, 10:36 PM
It... refers to Colton, yes

TomC
04-04-2017, 10:36 PM
Colton is actually quite disgusting. The racism is kinda transparent to see?

TomC
04-04-2017, 10:37 PM
i literally groaned at 'my housekeeper'

him insulting bill's job was gross too

TomC
04-04-2017, 10:42 PM
omg it was a set-up to get Bill out? or am I being dumb? idk

honestly though, Bill going in the face of this episode alone, comfortably slides S24 unto my bottom 5 of all time already

TomC
05-04-2017, 09:16 PM
It kinda sucks that they stopped the OW twist so soon. Feel like it woulda gotten interesting as the merge approached

TomC
05-04-2017, 09:57 PM
Colton and Alicia were ****ing horrendous toward Christina at the start of Ep 6

I've lowkey wanted a season I could decisively say is the worst of all time, and I think I've found it!

LemonJam
05-04-2017, 10:18 PM
One world did however produce UTRM Goddess Christina Cha so I will always have a place in my heart for it.

TomC
05-04-2017, 10:20 PM
"Because you're WRONG OKAY? So SHUT UP!" is a great quote I concede

DouglasS
06-04-2017, 12:22 AM
"Because you're WRONG OKAY? So SHUT UP!" is a great quote I concede
legit love this quote

TomC
09-07-2017, 02:34 PM
I'm back! I was gonna start again after LI/BB finished but I have just been craving Survivor too much recently. Omg it's been 3 months, normally I take only a month break.. I guess S24 really did scare me off. I was gonna finish S24 but I decided I should start on the apparently positive note of Phillippines. S24, in the eight episodes I saw was an utter abomination. Horrendous casting and uncomfortable viewing. Unsure if i'll ever finish it but decided for now, that's enough of ****ing that :)

Anyway, perched for S25, idk the winner (I don't think?) so should be good!

TomC
15-07-2017, 04:45 PM
just started episode 4; why have artis, carter, dawson, and the other brunette on penner's tribe been negated from the edit?

TomC
15-07-2017, 04:59 PM
mess at russell's reaction to their messy fourth loss

"father you have to help me understand this!"

:joker:

MB.
15-07-2017, 05:02 PM
"Lord... I mean Jeff" :love:

JerseyWins
16-07-2017, 07:52 PM
mess at russell's reaction to their messy fourth loss

"father you have to help me understand this!"

:joker:
"Lord... I mean Jeff" :love:
:joker:

TomC
17-07-2017, 11:32 PM
For some reason I can't warm to Abi. I just think she's too annoying, and she's been pretty unfair with RC, who I prefer.

Carter's face annoys me.

reece(:
17-07-2017, 11:32 PM
Let Abi in

TomC
17-07-2017, 11:36 PM
Oh well bye RC.

For some reason I'm not getting into this season :worry: I heard good things about it but maybe I'm just too preoccupied w LI and BB.

Macie Lightfoot
18-07-2017, 02:41 AM
alol RC is actually a demon who got a decent enough edit and that just makes me like her more :love:

TomC
19-07-2017, 10:54 AM
Penner and Lisa with ha masterplan are emerging as my favourites.

It's weird that I didn't really think much of Penner in CI. Did anyone? And I was a bit like why when he came back for FvF but he was really likeable in the underdog role in S16, and I like him this time too.

Malcolm is beautiful

TomC
19-07-2017, 11:04 AM
Also Skupin is so different this time. He seems much like softer and camper?

TomC
19-07-2017, 04:57 PM
Abi's been a bit of a ngihtmare but I feel really sorry for her holding back tears at TC :(

mess @ RC laughing from across the set at her emotion

DouglasS
19-07-2017, 04:59 PM
At first I hated Abi, and shes clearly got a lot of issues/insecurities, but by the end I ended up really enjoying her and she is a big reason why season 25 was so entertaining imo.

TomC
19-07-2017, 05:02 PM
So is Carter gay or what?

EspeonBB
19-07-2017, 05:03 PM
Abi is one of the best villains this show has ever had and although I love Philippines without her it would've been boring

Also RC's edit is misleading she's pretty awful (see Ponderosa)

TomC
19-07-2017, 05:07 PM
Phillipines is meant to be this post-HvV shining beacon but I don't really feel that way about it so far. Like the show has definitely not been as good since S20, but I don't think Phillipines is any, or much, better than Nicaragua. S22 and 24 especially were horrendous though.

I just feel like the 25 cast has been underdeveloped until after the merge.

EDIT: I read my post back - don't get me wrong, S25 is definitely a good season. It's just not amazing.

JerseyWins
19-07-2017, 07:56 PM
It's weird that I didn't really think much of Penner in CI. Did anyone? And I was a bit like why when he came back for FvF but he was really likeable in the underdog role in S16, and I like him this time too.
I think Penner might just be someone who's easy to appreciate more over time. Because I didn't like him the first time I saw him (in Philippines) until later in the season and then I appreciated him a lot more the other times I watched him after that.

Also Skupin is so different this time. He seems much like softer and camper?
Yeah he is very different in each season (a big time difference I guess). But I saw him in Philippines first so I was surprised to see how much more intense (and creepy) he was in AO. :joker:

At first I hated Abi, and shes clearly got a lot of issues/insecurities, but by the end I ended up really enjoying her and she is a big reason why season 25 was so entertaining imo.
I agree... I didn't like her at all but she's kinda grown on me over time and I enjoy her as a villain for the show as she brings the drama. :clap1: (I'm still not really that big of a fan though)

Phillipines is meant to be this post-HvV shining beacon but I don't really feel that way about it so far. Like the show has definitely not been as good since S20, but I don't think Phillipines is any, or much, better than Nicaragua. S22 and 24 especially were horrendous though.

I just feel like the 25 cast has been underdeveloped until after the merge.

EDIT: I read my post back - don't get me wrong, S25 is definitely a good season. It's just not amazing.
I might've enjoyed Philippines when I first watched it but that's more to do with it being one of the first couple of seasons that I watched. In hindsight I realized that it's just kind of ok overall. :shrug:

reece(:
19-07-2017, 07:58 PM
Yas, watch the Ponderosas, the RC-Abi drams :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
19-07-2017, 09:18 PM
okay but this is still an iconic tweet

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Braden
19-07-2017, 09:20 PM
I still need to finish Philippines, but RC was my favourite from what I watched! I know Abi is popular on the forums, but I think she's quite overrated :worry: