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neneu10
20-05-2017, 10:47 PM
Launch: 2.1 million
Series average: 1.7 million

Jake.
20-05-2017, 10:51 PM
Launch: 1.5
Official Average: 1.5

Jodie.
20-05-2017, 10:52 PM
I think it'll rate similarly to CBB18 if promotion and launch have promise :love:

Cal.
20-05-2017, 11:08 PM
Launch: 1.4 million
Average: 1.3 million

Mrmattybeck
20-05-2017, 11:13 PM
Launch 1.4m average 1m


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*mazedsalv**
21-05-2017, 11:52 AM
Well, considering the last few launches for regular BB:

BB12 and BB13 both launched with 2.6m.
BB14- 2.13m (Night 1), 2.11m (Night 2)
BB15- 2.10m
BB16- 1.83m
BB17- 1.60m

The show has been decreasing every single series for normal BB, I can't see it being reversed.

So, I'll say it will launch at 1.44m overnight (1.7m official), and series will average quite well and not drop a lot, and overnight average of 1.33m (official of 1.5m)

Looking at the launch figures,BB17 held on well compared to others.

*mazedsalv**
21-05-2017, 11:55 AM
I think it'll rate similarly to CBB18 if promotion and launch have promise :love:

That'd be almost impossible surely? If it rated as well as that it'll dive over BB14 quite a bit and become the most watched series on C5. I'd be very surprised.

Jodie.
21-05-2017, 12:23 PM
That'd be almost impossible surely? If it rated as well as that it'll dive over BB14 quite a bit and become the most watched series on C5. I'd be very surprised.

TBH I don't see why it shouldn't atleast reach BB14's ratings:
BB13 got 1.6m and BB14 got 1.9m which was an extra 300k viewers,
BB17 got 1.6m and this series sounds promising (so far), even Rylan said it would go back to basics to the social experiment format; to me it sounds like they're mixing the good things of both C4 (not manipulated, diverse) and C5 (modernised, shorter series that don't drag) into one

*mazedsalv**
21-05-2017, 12:49 PM
TBH I don't see why it shouldn't atleast reach BB14's ratings:
BB13 got 1.6m and BB14 got 1.9m which was an extra 300k viewers,
BB17 got 1.6m and this series sounds promising (so far), even Rylan said it would go back to basics to the social experiment format; to me it sounds like they're mixing the good things of both C4 (not manipulated, diverse) and C5 (modernised, shorter series that don't drag) into one

I get it, but I see 14 as the "freak" rater, like BB3 and BB5 (less so) were for C4 as for C4 every other series up until BB8 rated between 4.6-4.7m.

The standard C5 average is 1.6m, with BB14 being the "freak" rater with 1.9m and BB16 being the below average one with 1.4m.

12, 13, 15 and 17 all had a 1.6m average. I don't think a regular series will reach BB14 levels again. For me, I see 1.6m as the official rating ceiling.

VanessaFeltz.
21-05-2017, 01:01 PM
1.4 for launch

supertv247
22-05-2017, 06:28 PM
Launch - 1.6 million overnight (1.75m officially)
Series average - 1.3 million overnight (1.7m officially)

I think it'll launch pretty much the exact same as last year, and will do ever so slightly better in overnights too (if they keep it at 10pm and avoid love island). I think it will add slightly more in catch up figures on top of this (they rise every single series I think) and will therefore average slightly better than the 1.6 avg BB normally gets.
I think launches don't do any special numbers these days and that whatever BB18 gets on launch will be beaten often throughout the series

EDIT: this is if launch is normal (e.g. Tuesday 6th June 9pm) if it's on Sunday, against BGT or love island or at 10pm or something stupid then scrap everything - 1 million

T*
22-05-2017, 06:49 PM
Launch: 0.9-1.2 million
Average: 1.3

*mazedsalv**
22-05-2017, 06:58 PM
It's going to be hard for BB this year and here's why.

I have looked at C5's performance these last couple of months and the months from March-now, has been a very good couple of months. I don't remember a time of BB outside of CBB that C5 has been doing so well.

The Yorkshire Vet for example has been getting 2m overnights and timeshifted to 2.44m last week. We have Can't Pay, On Benefits, Slumdog Landlords, Rich House/Poor House , GP Behind the Closed Doors, Elizabeth doc, Police Interceptors, documentaries like the Shannon Matthews one, which have done very well. Then we had the Cruising with Jane did very well on Friday....all these shows have done BETTER than the average BB has got on C5. Which is odd, it proves that C5 can pull audiences of 2m+ officials. So even IF BB18 does slightly better than the standard 1.6m official, it will be rating as just like the 7th highest show on the channel!

However on the flip side, the fact that C5 have been doing so well just means more people have been watching whilst they are promoting BB and those ads are coming. I recall in the run up last year, barely anything hit 1m so less people were being exposed to the BB promo. In the last couple of months, C5 have constantly gotten 1m+ easily.

SteveG2688
22-05-2017, 07:45 PM
I think the launch will be around 1.60 m to 1.50 m then drop significantly after that.

Daniel-X
22-05-2017, 08:51 PM
I think launch will actually be really low:

Launch: 1.2
Average: 1.4

supertv247
24-05-2017, 08:55 AM
A reminder that last year's launch officially averaged 1.86 million and the first highlights averaged 1.84 million... I think this year's second episode will actually beat launch, the gap has been getting smaller every year and now if launch does face love island I easily see it happening

supertv247
24-05-2017, 08:56 AM
(basically, don't write off the series if it launches with a low number. We need to wait 1 or 2 episodes more to see how it's going to play)

T*
24-05-2017, 09:34 AM
I think launch will actually be really low:

Launch: 1.2
Average: 1.4

Same, I don't think people are gonna watch

*mazedsalv**
24-05-2017, 10:34 AM
I think it will launch very poorly, but hold up well.

y.winter
24-05-2017, 11:42 AM
Based on the slow, short-notice low-profile promotion, zero hype - I think it won't do well with ratings.

Mrmattybeck
24-05-2017, 09:25 PM
1m love island could beat it


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Jack_
24-05-2017, 10:09 PM
I want to say it's gonna be like 800k, but I'll be a realist and say 1.1m

I'm confident this will be the last civilian series

Denver
24-05-2017, 10:12 PM
They have a contract for another

Jack_
24-05-2017, 10:18 PM
I thought the contract was signed until 2018? My mistake

Mind you, nobody knows what clauses are included in that contract

Jodie.
25-05-2017, 06:21 AM
Officials will save the launch so much imo

supertv247
25-05-2017, 12:50 PM
I thought the contract was signed until 2018? My mistake

Mind you, nobody knows what clauses are included in that contract

Yeah the contract is until 2018, hence why the 2018 series is the last in the contact

*mazedsalv**
03-06-2017, 12:12 PM
So, two days before.... predictions?

neneu10
04-06-2017, 02:27 PM
So, two days before.... predictions?

1.8 for the launch

Rob!
04-06-2017, 02:31 PM
1.3m if it's lucky. Putting it against Corrie is just lunacy.

Jay28jay2
04-06-2017, 03:20 PM
Launch - 1.2 Million
Series Average - 1.1 Million

*mazedsalv**
04-06-2017, 04:35 PM
1.3m if it's lucky. Putting it against Corrie is just lunacy.

Agreed.

MB.
04-06-2017, 04:37 PM
1.15m for the launch tbh

*mazedsalv**
04-06-2017, 04:42 PM
Not sure what it reflects but 855,000 have viewed the trailer from Facebook of the 6 HM in 48 hours.

A huge 1.5m has watched the LI trailer in the last 7 days. Odd because LI only has 350,000 likes on their Facebook page.

Then again only 2,500 people liked the LI trailer compared to 4,100 for BB's. So assuming a lot of the LI views come from LI haters.

supertv247
04-06-2017, 04:57 PM
Monday - 1.45m
Tuesday - 1.50m

Last year was 1.6 then 1.5, but due to the weird start and clashes tomorrow I think yet again it'll be the least watched launch ever, and I have a feeling the second episode will beat it. I'd like to be wrong though

It's interesting that the average for each series has been 1.6, 1.9, 1.6, 1.4, 1.6, so very consistent, yet every year the launch has went down; 2.22, 2.13, 2.09, 1.83, 1.60m - it's like the launch show is gradually becoming a normal episode, no big deal anymore.

Captain.Remy
04-06-2017, 07:49 PM
1.5 at best

Jake.
06-06-2017, 08:50 AM
Excluding +1:

Big Brother: 1.23m (6.2%)
Love Island: 1.16m (6.0%)

Big Brother: 1.32m (6.7%) (incl +1 I think)

supertv247
06-06-2017, 08:58 AM
Big Brother 1.32m (6.7%) vs Love Island 1.25m (6.5%) including +1

Jack.
06-06-2017, 08:58 AM
Excluding +1:

Big Brother: 1.23m (6.2%)
Love Island: 1.16m (6.0%)

Big Brother: 1.32m (6.7%) (incl +1 I think)

It's an awful rating but at least they beat Love Island

BB-Germany
06-06-2017, 09:25 AM
It's ok I guess.

Officials will do loads for both as they basically were drawing viewers from each other.

Rob!
06-06-2017, 09:30 AM
Considering it was up against Corrie and Love Island, that is actually a pretty decent rating. I was expecting a lot worse. That is excellent for Love Island though.

Rob!
06-06-2017, 09:34 AM
BB peaked with 1.66m and LI with 1.45m

supertv247
06-06-2017, 09:38 AM
Tonight will be a true test. Normal time slots and avoiding each other, I wouldn't even be surprised if they both rise upon their launch figures seeing as we can watch both.

Rob!
06-06-2017, 09:39 AM
No nether would I. We need to hope LI has a crap series and BB has a good one. I honestly will never understand the appeal of LI but it can't be denied, it's on a roll atm.

Greg!
06-06-2017, 09:50 AM
Slay @ it beating LI and that peak of 1.66. I'm glad they're on at different times tonight because they both deserve to rise :clap1:

azi
06-06-2017, 01:27 PM
I thought it would be worse tbh.

Jodie.
06-06-2017, 02:50 PM
I'm impressed!

Cal.
06-06-2017, 02:51 PM
Great!

Mrmattybeck
06-06-2017, 05:31 PM
Slightly better for bb than expected hopefully it holds tonight with it not clashing with love island


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Rob!
06-06-2017, 05:42 PM
Opposite the two news at tens on BBC1 and ITV, QI on BBC2 and First Dates on Channel 4. Chances of it beating first dates?

Ross.
06-06-2017, 05:45 PM
We need to hope LI has a crap series

Shut your bloody mouth

Mrmattybeck
06-06-2017, 05:46 PM
Shut your bloody mouth



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Rob!
06-06-2017, 05:55 PM
Shut your bloody mouth

MAKE ME

Jake.
07-06-2017, 08:49 AM
Excluding +1:

Big Brother: 0.95m (6.4%)
Love Island: 0.94m (4.7%)

supertv247
07-06-2017, 08:54 AM
The higher share makes me wonder if BB would rate higher if they swapped time slots :shrug:

HBIC
07-06-2017, 09:04 AM
ouch, isn't 950k what it would pull in on a Saturday?

I know it's on at 10pm so less people are watching TV (which is reflected in the higher share) but still, it seem quite low.

supertv247
07-06-2017, 09:05 AM
ouch, isn't 950k what it would pull in on a Saturday?

I know it's on at 10pm so less people are watching TV (which is reflected in the higher share) but still, it seem quite low.

Last year's first highlights got 1.45m (Inc +1) - can't remember if that was at 9pm or 10pm though

Vanessa
07-06-2017, 09:07 AM
It should be on at 9 pm. No one will watch at 10 pm. It's too late :fist:

Firewire
07-06-2017, 09:08 AM
BB is always at 10pm

HBIC
07-06-2017, 09:08 AM
Last year's first highlights got 1.45m (Inc +1) - can't remember if that was at 9pm or 10pm though
I just checked and it was on at 10pm. It also pulled in a 9.1% share. So that makes last night's rating look worse in comparison.

supertv247
07-06-2017, 09:09 AM
It should be on at 9 pm. No one will watch at 10 pm. It's too late :fist:

Last year it got 1.2-1.4m at 10pm and 1-1.1m at 9pm most nights (always clearly hurt against love island). I remember saying so many times that it should stick to 10pm as it was always back and forward

Vanessa
07-06-2017, 09:10 AM
Last year it got 1.2-1.4m at 10pm and 1-1.1m at 9pm most nights (always clearly hurt against love island). I remember saying so many times that it should stick to 10pm as it was always back and forward

I can't watch it at 10 pm, because I get up so early on for work. I will have to catch up the next day.

Rob!
07-06-2017, 09:50 AM
Trash. There's no excuse for that. LONG summer ahead full of uneeded twists and manufactured drama. Sigh.

RichardG
07-06-2017, 09:51 AM
terrible viewing figures

Wizard.
07-06-2017, 09:57 AM
Isn't this what happened to Big Brother Canada before it got cancelled?

LukeB
07-06-2017, 10:08 AM
Mess that rating is awful and if it carries on we are going go get a twist that we don't need!!

supertv247
07-06-2017, 10:50 AM
1.15m including +1 - 300k down on last year (the same as launch was)
Love island got 1.11m

Rob!
07-06-2017, 11:34 AM
It won't take long for LI to be overtaking it I suspect.

LukeB
07-06-2017, 11:36 AM
It won't take long for LI to be overtaking it I suspect.

probably so a last minute twist might be on its way which is unnecessary because this series has potential. even though the last,last minute twist did get rid of Austin and give you all Kim Woodburn.

sampvt
07-06-2017, 11:40 AM
Personally I dont think its the format or the contestants that are loosing the viewers, I blame Emmas bias and Rylan for just being a dick that very few like. Change those 2 and we have ignition. I watched Rylan last night and he was so bad it beggars belief he gets money for that crap. He talks over guests, acts way too camp, invents issues that dont exist and his lame analysis of the programme leads me to believe he does no research at all. Its all about him, not the show.

Ross.
07-06-2017, 12:13 PM
The share is near the launches though why are y'all being dramatic

Less people were watching tv!

Rob!
07-06-2017, 12:26 PM
The share is near the launches though why are y'all being dramatic

Less people were watching tv!

Cause it's gone under a million the day after launch you silly fool!?

Ross.
07-06-2017, 12:28 PM
Cause it's gone under a million the day after launch you silly fool!?

But the share has barely fallen

Overnight ratings are redundant anyway hun!

Jake.
07-06-2017, 12:29 PM
Cause it's gone under a million the day after launch you silly fool!?

Well it's 1.15 so it hasn't

Jason.
07-06-2017, 12:29 PM
I don't care about overnights

Officials are the ones that matter

Ross.
07-06-2017, 12:30 PM
Expose Rob's scaremongering

A Theresa May tea

supertv247
07-06-2017, 12:43 PM
Last year's series average was 1.15 so as long as it stays at that... But for a weekday it should always be above it, as it's usually the weekend that beings it down

Rob!
07-06-2017, 02:28 PM
Expose Rob's scaremongering

A Theresa May tea

Running through the fields of wheat with my mad ideas

Jodie.
07-06-2017, 02:54 PM
Overnights will be a disaster for this series, however officials will bump it up a lot.

I hope they wait until we get the first set of officials before they do a twist, as they must know lots of people can't stay wake until 11.

Jake.
08-06-2017, 08:48 AM
Inc +1
Big brother... 1.05m 7.1%
Love island... 1.27m 6.5%

Mrmattybeck
08-06-2017, 09:03 AM
Love island pulls ahead [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]


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Jake.
08-06-2017, 09:05 AM
Share is just as important though

LukeB
08-06-2017, 10:51 AM
It was only matter of time that love island beats big brother

BB-Germany
08-06-2017, 10:52 AM
It was on an hour earlier. BB has a higher share, meaning actually BB won.

T*
08-06-2017, 10:53 AM
I'm yelling timber ����

Rob!
08-06-2017, 11:00 AM
Yikes

Rob!
08-06-2017, 11:05 AM
It was on an hour earlier. BB has a higher share, meaning actually BB won.

Not when LI beat it by over 200k it didn't.

T*
08-06-2017, 11:12 AM
Not when LI beat it by over 200k it didn't.

This

Jake.
08-06-2017, 11:14 AM
Not when LI beat it by over 200k it didn't.

Hm it didn't really "beat" it though because they were in opposing slots. LI had more viewers because it was on an hour before, BB had a higher share because it was on when a lot of people tend to head to bed

LukeB
08-06-2017, 11:21 AM
I didnt think Li would beat big brother this soon especially when Li viewers are going stronger and well bbuk going down again

Mrmattybeck
08-06-2017, 11:35 AM
It was on an hour earlier. BB has a higher share, meaning actually BB won.



Gotta love the spin


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Jodie.
08-06-2017, 02:52 PM
LI officials won't make much difference
BB's will and will beat LI

Mrmattybeck
08-06-2017, 03:44 PM
LI officials won't make much difference

BB's will and will beat LI



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Jodie.
08-06-2017, 04:54 PM
Someone's upset [emoji23]


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I'm fumed😂😂

LukeB
08-06-2017, 04:56 PM
I'm fumed����

well now you can expect it to happen in the future.

at least tomorrows ratings it would make sense why it's low because of the election.

but other days be prepared

RichardG
08-06-2017, 08:52 PM
terrible again

Jake.
09-06-2017, 09:37 AM
Inc +1
Big brother... 1.10m 6.4%
Love island... 1.34m 6.7%

Jake.
09-06-2017, 09:37 AM
To improve on the night before despite going up against the election results isn't too shabby

Cal.
09-06-2017, 10:08 AM
3 nights in and now behind LI in figure and share :x

Mrmattybeck
09-06-2017, 10:34 AM
Behind love island again [emoji51][emoji51][emoji51]


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supertv247
09-06-2017, 10:40 AM
A 230k difference is bad. It also means love island is still likely to win in official numbers too now

Rob!
09-06-2017, 11:07 AM
Love island needs to **** off

LukeB
09-06-2017, 11:10 AM
Love island needs to **** off

Li and BB producers to swap ? Li does seem to be a well produced show and it's more big brother than BB itself. I guess that's why it's doing so well since it's getting stronger each year.

Cal.
09-06-2017, 11:14 AM
LI is a fad.

Rob!
09-06-2017, 11:21 AM
I mean BB is steady at least.

Jodie.
09-06-2017, 02:45 PM
Aslong as overnights stay at 1.1m, it will have the same overnight average as BB17. Officials should make it atleast 1.5 darlings

*mazedsalv**
09-06-2017, 07:05 PM
Massive shame LI is beating it, however BB was up on the same episode last year and it doesn't mean much but it was highest rating since launch despite the election coverage peaking at 6m during the time BB was on.

Tonight will be low, against LI it is, only thing is that it could have quite a bit on +1.

Jason.
09-06-2017, 07:49 PM
Inc +1
Big brother... 1.10m 6.4%
Love island... 1.34m 6.7%

Camilla did that :clap1:

sampvt
09-06-2017, 07:52 PM
li....interesting and engaging for those that like that kind of programme.

bb....predictable interference and daft tasks but outside contact ruins everything

Rob!
10-06-2017, 10:55 AM
Including +1:

Big Brother: 1.10m (6.4%)
Love Island: 1.34m (6.7%)

LukeB
10-06-2017, 10:58 AM
Including +1:

Big Brother: 1.10m (6.4%)
Love Island: 1.34m (6.7%)

So the same fron the other day? I

Rob!
10-06-2017, 11:07 AM
According to DS, yeah.

T*
10-06-2017, 11:33 AM
Not a good sign tbh

Greg!
10-06-2017, 12:10 PM
I hate Love Island

Jason.
10-06-2017, 12:26 PM
Idg why people are fumed at Love Island rating higher, as if Big Brother would have better ratings if Love Island wasn't on. Like even when they've been on at different times to avoid clashing, Love Island has still had higher viewers. Many viewers have lost interest in the BB over the past few years and have turned off as a result, it's not rating low because of LI.

Vladimir
10-06-2017, 12:28 PM
At least it's steady I guess

*mazedsalv**
10-06-2017, 01:17 PM
That was from Thursday

Last night was....

1.04m for BB
1.10m for LI. BB pretty stable but LI dropped 240k

LukeB
10-06-2017, 01:19 PM
Rob, you flop

Rob!
10-06-2017, 01:22 PM
That was from Thursday

Last night was....

1.04m for BB
1.10m for LI. BB pretty stable but LI dropped 240k

Well you can blame that bloody Hassan for that :nono:

Jodie.
10-06-2017, 01:28 PM
Idg why people are fumed at Love Island rating higher, as if Big Brother would have better ratings if Love Island wasn't on. Like even when they've been on at different times to avoid clashing, Love Island has still had higher viewers. Many viewers have lost interest in the BB over the past few years and have turned off as a result, it's not rating low because of LI.

It's because staying up until 11 is too late for some people, hence why officials will make it a lot higher

LukeB
10-06-2017, 01:50 PM
It's because staying up until 11 is too late for some people, hence why officials will make it a lot higher

Still got beaten at 9pm.

*mazedsalv**
10-06-2017, 04:39 PM
I think officials will be around 400-500k up when added.

Jake.
11-06-2017, 10:16 AM
Big Brother: 0.83m (4.6%)

Mrmattybeck
11-06-2017, 10:30 AM
Lots go out on Saturday so nothing to worry about should rise tonight


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Cal.
11-06-2017, 10:45 AM
LI is the new 'thing' for people my age. The more it gets talked about, the higher it will go. I'm expecting it to be even higher as the summer goes on.

Rob!
11-06-2017, 10:47 AM
That's including +1 which is terrible but even for a Saturday. Shame, because it was a brilliant episode.

Mrmattybeck
11-06-2017, 11:40 AM
That's including +1 which is terrible but even for a Saturday. Shame, because it was a brilliant episode.



Agree it deserves better hopefully it will see a rise tonight


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BBDodge
11-06-2017, 11:50 AM
The constant arguments won't bring viewers back. BB needs to put some fun into the house.

Mrmattybeck
12-06-2017, 07:04 AM
The constant arguments won't bring viewers back. BB needs to put some fun into the house.



Agree especially after last night got quite nasty


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Jake.
12-06-2017, 08:49 AM
Excluding +1:

Love Island: 1.22m (5.4%)
Big Brother: 0.93m (4.1%)

Jake.
12-06-2017, 08:50 AM
LI getting the viewers which BB should be getting

sampvt
12-06-2017, 09:01 AM
arthur leaving wont help and if they stick with vts it will kill the show for sure. the prods need to stop trying to manage the show for heir aims, its a fan driven show not a reality experiment for them

snail69
12-06-2017, 09:42 AM
arthur leaving wont help and if they stick with vts it will kill the show for sure. the prods need to stop trying to manage the show for heir aims, its a fan driven show not a reality experiment for them
Yes exactly!!

I've never been a fan of the VT's, or at least how they do them now. They just ask them a load of leading questions and only show us the stuff they want us to see. Basically trying to portray someone in a slicer tain light and give you an opinion on someone (which most of the time is wrong)before you even get to see them and judge them for yourself.

Unfortunately too many people still lap them up and pick their favourites before they are all even in the house.

VT's should either go or they should change the structure of them. For example show people answering the same questions etc.

Also my biggest pet hate is evictions in the first week?! What even is that ****?!?!

VanessaFeltz.
12-06-2017, 09:50 AM
Big Brother: 0.83m (4.6%)

howling

VanessaFeltz.
12-06-2017, 09:50 AM
http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar92240_66.gif producers rn

Rob!
12-06-2017, 11:29 AM
Excluding +1:

Love Island: 1.22m (5.4%)
Big Brother: 0.93m (4.1%)

Inc+1

Love Island: 1.36m (:umm2:)
Big Brother: 1.05m

Mrmattybeck
12-06-2017, 01:22 PM
10 years ago bb used to thrash love island


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Cal.
12-06-2017, 01:28 PM
LI just has that social media following that BB doesn't and couldn't have.

BB has more longevity than LI mind. The girls who adore LI will be growing out of it within the next few summers.

Mrmattybeck
12-06-2017, 01:29 PM
LI just has that social media following that BB doesn't and couldn't have.

BB has more longevity than LI mind. The girls who adore LI will be growing out of it within the next few summers.



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Jason.
12-06-2017, 02:19 PM
Last night's episode was a chore to watch. I was even regretting choosing BB over LI at 9 as it was just Arthur in every scene.

LukeB
12-06-2017, 02:21 PM
mess even towie gets more ratings than BBUK lol.

snail69
12-06-2017, 02:21 PM
Love Island is complete trash in my opinion. I was given the opportunity to apply for it last year through an agency I do some work for but it didn't interest me at all. Plus I was completely out of shape then compared to most of the guys that go on there!

Jason.
12-06-2017, 02:22 PM
LI is more water-cooler than BB. It exploded last year and now almost everybody I know talks about it, most my friends/colleagues watch it and I've heard teenagers talking about it at school. It's like how everyone used to talk about BB ten years ago. I also agree that it gets a much better social media following, things like having a Snapchat filter for promotion helps massively and I think LI appeals to the younger audience much better than BB does, whereas the main demographic for BB nowadays are the cat ladies.

And on top of that, LI is the much slicker and better-produced show out of the two. They put much more effort in and the growing ratings reflect that, the same can't be said for BB anymore sadly.

T*
12-06-2017, 02:24 PM
Big Brother: 0.83m (4.6%)

Excluding +1:

Love Island: 1.22m (5.4%)
Big Brother: 0.93m (4.1%)

omfg

irishdave
12-06-2017, 02:25 PM
Any sign of official ratings for the launch?

sampvt
12-06-2017, 02:27 PM
bb is getting so bad... i rang them the other day asking what time the show aired and they asked me what time did i want it to start

T*
12-06-2017, 02:28 PM
LI is more water-cooler than BB. It exploded last year and now almost everybody I know talks about it, most my friends/colleagues watch it and I've heard teenagers talking about it at school. It's like how everyone used to talk about BB ten years ago. I also agree that it gets a much better social media following, things like having a Snapchat filter for promotion helps massively and I think LI appeals to the younger audience much better than BB does, whereas the main demographic for BB nowadays are the cat ladies.

And on top of that, LI is the much slicker and better-produced show out of the two. They put much more effort in and the growing ratings reflect that, the same can't be said for BB anymore sadly.
Even my brother and his GF watch and enjoy LI and they're not the Reality TV type.. it's so odd lmao. I watched an episode the other day and I can see why it's winning ratings wise

Mrmattybeck
12-06-2017, 05:56 PM
Love Island is complete trash in my opinion. I was given the opportunity to apply for it last year through an agency I do some work for but it didn't interest me at all. Plus I was completely out of shape then compared to most of the guys that go on there!



To you lots of young people enjoy it and who cares if it's trash all reality tv is I watch ex on the beach that is too


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Mrmattybeck
12-06-2017, 05:57 PM
Last night's episode was a chore to watch. I was even regretting choosing BB over LI at 9 as it was just Arthur in every scene.



Same quite uncomfortable scenes in bb I don't want that


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Greg!
12-06-2017, 06:01 PM
Love island isn't even good? Last year's one was far better but it wasn't exactly gripping stuff. Idgi

Jake.
12-06-2017, 06:07 PM
also think people are being a bit harsh on BB when it's in its 18th series compared to Love Island's 3rd

snail69
12-06-2017, 06:08 PM
To you lots of young people enjoy it and who cares if it's trash all reality tv is I watch ex on the beach that is too


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I agree all reality TV is trash. I only watch Big Brother because I got hooked as a 12/13 year old and I watch it every year without fail now! It's like a disease to me at this point!!

LukeB
12-06-2017, 06:12 PM
LI is more water-cooler than BB. It exploded last year and now almost everybody I know talks about it, most my friends/colleagues watch it and I've heard teenagers talking about it at school. It's like how everyone used to talk about BB ten years ago. I also agree that it gets a much better social media following, things like having a Snapchat filter for promotion helps massively and I think LI appeals to the younger audience much better than BB does, whereas the main demographic for BB nowadays are the cat ladies.

And on top of that, LI is the much slicker and better-produced show out of the two. They put much more effort in and the growing ratings reflect that, the same can't be said for BB anymore sadly.

I agree with this. Also i see a lot Li memes from this season all over facebook and twitter and it has it's own page too, which gets people talking too.

Jason.
12-06-2017, 06:17 PM
I honestly thought last year's LI was better than BB17?

But yeah, this year's one hasn't been as strong. No where near as bad as C5 BB at its worst though.

Jodie.
12-06-2017, 06:29 PM
I honestly thought last year's LI was better than BB17?

But yeah, this year's one hasn't been as strong. No where near as bad as C5 BB at its worst though.

Do you like this years LI or BB18 better so far?

Jason.
12-06-2017, 06:45 PM
Do you like this years LI or BB18 better so far?

BB18 has been more entertaining but I haven't really enjoyed the last couple episodes. There's too much drama centered around the same people and it becomes draining to watch.

I think both BB and LI were better last summer, at this point.

Jamesy
12-06-2017, 07:38 PM
For it's age BB is incredibly (strong and) stable with viewing figures.

I think figures only decline due to the fact the producers always ignore what viewers want (e.g look at the amount of "I've stopped watching because there's no normal people" comments across social media).

This is one of the better series of Channel 5 Big Brother though...

Jodie.
12-06-2017, 07:40 PM
For it's age BB is incredibly (strong and) stable with viewing figures.

This is one of the better series of Channel 5 Big Brother though...

I agree, if it carrys on with this quality it'll be the best on C5 imo <3

T*
12-06-2017, 07:46 PM
The sad thing is Love Island is a prime example of how a show can come back with a bang, If only the same thing was done with BB- I can't help feeling that if it was rested after BB11 and came back after a break, be it a couple or a few years, it would reignite the popularity it used to have tbh

Mrmattybeck
12-06-2017, 08:29 PM
Love island isn't even good? Last year's one was far better but it wasn't exactly gripping stuff. Idgi



Who cares if it's good or not it's a big talking point at the moment which is something bbuk hasn't been for many years


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Mrmattybeck
12-06-2017, 08:30 PM
The sad thing is Love Island is a prime example of how a show can come back with a bang, If only the same thing was done with BB- I can't help feeling that if it was rested after BB11 and came back after a break, be it a couple or a few years, it would reignite the popularity it used to have tbh



Yep bbuk needed a good 5 year break


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Jake.
13-06-2017, 08:48 AM
Excluding +1:

Love Island: 1.20m (5.9%)
Big Brother: 0.91m (6.4%)

lewis111
13-06-2017, 08:52 AM
At least the percentage is higher again...

Novo
13-06-2017, 09:42 AM
Poor Raph making the finale and only 700,000 people tuning in at this rate

Rob!
13-06-2017, 12:38 PM
1m with +1.

Tbh it's not a million miles away from where it was at last year and it's still beating BB16 at this stage but that's not exactly difficult as BB16 was struggling to get over 900k at this stage.

Cal.
13-06-2017, 02:05 PM
It's a mess how everyone seems to watch LI yet it rates the same as BB.

There was a geezer in the pub I work at the other day on the phone to his girlfriend asking her to meet him at the pub after Love Island finished. Crazy.

Mrmattybeck
13-06-2017, 02:58 PM
It's a mess how everyone seems to watch LI yet it rates the same as BB.



There was a geezer in the pub I work at the other day on the phone to his girlfriend asking her to meet him at the pub after Love Island finished. Crazy.



Love island is where the party is at now [emoji5][emoji5][emoji5]


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Jason.
13-06-2017, 03:21 PM
Last night's LI was bordering BB4-levels of tedium. There's a fight tonight though so I'm perched!

BB-Germany
13-06-2017, 04:24 PM
BB is not losing viewers apparently, it struggles just because there weren't as many viewers to begin with.

If it stays at this level, I don't see C5 going into full panic mode but it cannot do much worse.

The share is OK though,

Jake.
14-06-2017, 08:50 AM
Channel 5 (exc. +1):
20:01 - The Yorkshire Vet: 1.04m (5.5%)
21:02 - Our Dream Hotel: 0.82m (4.1%)
22:03 - Big Brother: 0.76m (5.2%)

ITV2 (exc. +1):
21:00 - Love Island: 1.36m (6.8%)

Jake.
14-06-2017, 08:50 AM
Love Island: 1.52m (7.6%)
Big Brother: 819k (5.5%)

Including plus 1

Jake.
14-06-2017, 08:51 AM
That's honestly embarrassing

Novo
14-06-2017, 08:53 AM
Christ, Love Island will be getting double the viewers soon if this carries on

Locke.
14-06-2017, 08:54 AM
Viewers will jump above 5 million tonight when word gets out that Raph is going to meet Gemma Collins

irishdave
14-06-2017, 09:23 AM
Oh my god, those ratings are tragic and I am actually enjoying this series. What will Channel 5 do now?? Was that the lowest ever ratings for a week night?

Will.
14-06-2017, 09:31 AM
Love Island is so boring this year, like the cast is dreadful apart from a couple. I can't get into it.

I hope they don't pull a drastic stunt to get more viewers, because BB has been really good but they probably will.

HBIC
14-06-2017, 09:33 AM
That is such a horrible rating. There wasn't even any tough competition airing last night. I wonder what drastic twist they will think up of now.

T*
14-06-2017, 11:18 AM
Channel 5 (exc. +1):
20:01 - The Yorkshire Vet: 1.04m (5.5%)
21:02 - Our Dream Hotel: 0.82m (4.1%)
22:03 - Big Brother: 0.76m (5.2%)

ITV2 (exc. +1):
21:00 - Love Island: 1.36m (6.8%)

Love Island: 1.52m (7.6%)
Big Brother: 819k (5.5%)

Including plus 1
oh my ****ing god :umm2:

Jamesy
14-06-2017, 11:32 AM
4in4out the return, coming our way...

Maybe its time C5 consider changing things in future series.

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Headie
14-06-2017, 11:38 AM
Sue is coming!

Rob!
14-06-2017, 11:43 AM
Omg D:

supertv247
14-06-2017, 02:16 PM
Last night's love island had 800k 16-34 year olds watching while BBUK had a total of 800k people and 200k 16-34s watching. That's the target audience for both shows, and if anything it shows that love island isn't the reason for bb losing viewers. They don't clash, so realistically it should be helping it by bringing so many extra viewers to the TV at the time...
I have no idea what's going on because the series looks quite good, but producers are going to start panicking now, and reject celebs aren't going to help.

It's currently averaging 1.02m vs last year's 1.22m at the same time

irishdave
14-06-2017, 02:18 PM
Why do Channel 5 keep repeating the same mistakes every single year and then panic when the ratings plunge? They never ever learn or listen to what the fans want. It's ridiculous we have to keep pleading with them every year re the basic principles of what makes a good series.

Vanessa
14-06-2017, 02:18 PM
Last night's love island had 800k 16-34 year olds watching while BBUK had a total of 800k people and 200k 16-34s watching. That's the target audience for both shows, and if anything it shows that love island isn't the reason for bb losing viewers. They don't clash, so realistically it should be helping it by bringing so many extra viewers to the TV at the time...
I have no idea what's going on because the series looks quite good, but producers are going to start panicking now, and reject celebs aren't going to help.

It's currently averaging 1.02m vs last year's 1.22m at the same time

It usually does OK when it's on at 9 pm. I don't think people like the 10 pm slot.

Daniel-X
14-06-2017, 02:22 PM
LI has become culturally relevant whereas BB just isn't anymore, ALL of my friends (bar like one) are watching Love Island this year and NONE of my friends (bar like two/three) are watching BB. Everyone associates summer with Love Island and whenever I mention BB some of my friends genuinely are like 'what is the normal one still on?' (meaning civil)

Love Island will lose its popularity though, the younger demographic get bored of things really quick. This year or next year will be LI's peak before it slowly begins to decline.

Daniel-X
14-06-2017, 02:24 PM
It usually does OK when it's on at 9 pm. I don't think people like the 10 pm slot.

I agree with this too. Love Island rates better cos it's on earlier (one of my friends actually isn't watching BB cos she said she gets too tired after LI finishes to bother putting it on)

BB finishing at eleven just feels really weird cos I feel like I need to start trying to get to sleep as soon as the ending titles come up.

Vladimir
14-06-2017, 02:38 PM
The series has been decent so far, I do not get this abysmal rating tbh.

Samm
14-06-2017, 02:44 PM
yeah BB isn't the tea anymore for the public, I would just enjoy it cus the ratings are never going to be amazing, what other TV show has had brilliant ratings every single year for seventeen years

Jodie.
14-06-2017, 02:53 PM
What was the overnight average for BB16 this far in? And do officials come out on Monday?

Cal.
14-06-2017, 03:00 PM
They need some advertising but they'll probably just Evict half the cast and ask Nicola/Gemma/Marnie plus a few others if they want to become housemates.

LukeB
14-06-2017, 03:12 PM
LI has become culturally relevant whereas BB just isn't anymore, ALL of my friends (bar like one) are watching Love Island this year and NONE of my friends (bar like two/three) are watching BB. Everyone associates summer with Love Island and whenever I mention BB some of my friends genuinely are like 'what is the normal one still on?' (meaning civil)

Love Island will lose its popularity though, the younger demographic get bored of things really quick. This year or next year will be LI's peak before it slowly begins to decline.

I actually think it may be relevant for ages and do well just like Towie has which has been on for 7 years or so now and that's still doing well in ratings.

Greg!
14-06-2017, 03:17 PM
I think C5 are going to axe BB after BB19 which is sad but its had a good run. Maybe another channel will pick it up and treat ha better.

Samm
14-06-2017, 03:22 PM
They need some advertising but they'll probably just Evict half the cast and ask Nicola/Gemma/Marnie plus a few others if they want to become housemates.

"hey nikki it's endemol here, would you like to star in your 23rd instalment of big brother for a healthy pay check?"

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

Jason.
14-06-2017, 03:26 PM
I'm the alarming 700k difference

Mrmattybeck
14-06-2017, 05:59 PM
LI has become culturally relevant whereas BB just isn't anymore, ALL of my friends (bar like one) are watching Love Island this year and NONE of my friends (bar like two/three) are watching BB. Everyone associates summer with Love Island and whenever I mention BB some of my friends genuinely are like 'what is the normal one still on?' (meaning civil)

Love Island will lose its popularity though, the younger demographic get bored of things really quick. This year or next year will be LI's peak before it slowly begins to decline.


I disagree love island only airs 7 weeks a year I think it's got 3-4 years yet before the next new reality show


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Mrmattybeck
14-06-2017, 06:00 PM
I actually think it may be relevant for ages and do well just like Towie has which has been on for 7 years or so now and that's still doing well in ratings.



Same I think it's got many years even if it drops


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Jodie.
14-06-2017, 06:14 PM
It’s the officials that matter the most anyway

RichardG
14-06-2017, 07:43 PM
oh wow

EspeonBB
14-06-2017, 07:53 PM
Love Island almost doubling BB
https://media.giphy.com/media/3DLkMLPy490gE/giphy.gif

armand.kay
14-06-2017, 08:22 PM
I mean LI actually have promo for their show and they give it a prime time slot

James
14-06-2017, 09:01 PM
The 10 o'clock news is taking ratings away because of the political drama going on.

Jack_
14-06-2017, 10:06 PM
I mean LI actually have promo for their show and they give it a prime time slot

Yep

The promotion this year was so piss poor it's beyond a joke, even I didn't care the show was returning. How is anyone else even supposed to know? They've made this mistake on a few occasions, poor promotion leads to a subpar launch figure and then the ratings either plateau or tail off. If you don't start well, you have no base on which to build

LukeB
14-06-2017, 10:13 PM
874982438904225793

Mrmattybeck
14-06-2017, 11:01 PM
It’s the officials that matter the most anyway



Sure let's just ignore the overnights #spin


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Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-06-2017, 11:02 PM
can someone do a list of the daily ratings i cba looking for them

Jake.
15-06-2017, 09:36 AM
Inc +1
Big brother... 912k 5.9

Love island.. 1.53 8.4

armand.kay
15-06-2017, 09:47 AM
When are the officials out? I've managed to get a few of my friends into it but they've all beed watching on demand.

Mrmattybeck
15-06-2017, 09:56 AM
Deserved its bb only in name now


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thediaryroomchair
15-06-2017, 10:05 AM
This rating is atrocious and I am worrying for Big Brother's future.

supertv247
15-06-2017, 10:15 AM
What's really worrying is that the viewers are there, but still choosing not to watch.

It's going the same way timebomb did, an okay start and then a second week below 1 million... Cue 4 in 4 out: annihilation bomb

Greg!
15-06-2017, 10:56 AM
Mess these ratings are getting really bad. Hope the officials are good

RichardG
15-06-2017, 06:58 PM
awful again

Firewire
15-06-2017, 07:03 PM
Love Island is doing amazingly well

Vanessa
15-06-2017, 07:04 PM
What the point in having a normal bb if it's going to be full of celebs and with a vote to save? :rolleyes:

Cal.
15-06-2017, 07:05 PM
Love Island is doing amazingly well

Think some officials will make this series BB14 level ratings.

Jodie.
15-06-2017, 07:09 PM
Think some officials will make this series BB14 level ratings.

Are you taking about BB or LI?

Cal.
15-06-2017, 07:15 PM
Are you taking about BB or LI?

LI.

BB18's ratings will be abysmal.

Jake.
16-06-2017, 09:23 AM
Inc +1
Love island.. 1.44 7.4
Big brother... 943k 6.0

Cal.
16-06-2017, 09:25 AM
Lmao if LI announces live feed and BBUK is like 'hmm *pouts* well we're evicting half our cast and Marc O'Neill and Dexter Koh are going back in so'

supertv247
16-06-2017, 09:27 AM
Inc +1
Love island.. 1.44 7.4
Big brother... 943k 6.0

1.23m vs 920k excluding +1
I'm worried that this is a bad sign for the catchup figures, either that or they'll be better as people just cba watching so late

Cal.
16-06-2017, 09:29 AM
1.23m vs 920k excluding +1
I'm worried that this is a bad sign for the catchup figures, either that or they'll be better as people just cba watching so late

I can't see LI getting much with catch up figures thinking about it now. I said last night they'll probably reach BB14 highs at 2 million but I can't see anymore than 1.5 million people that interested in it.

supertv247
16-06-2017, 09:31 AM
I can't see LI getting much with catch up figures thinking about it now. I said last night they'll probably reach BB14 highs at 2 million but I can't see anymore than 1.5 million people that interested in it.

If anything, maybe people are just more keen to watch love island live because of the hype - whereas maybe BB will have a lot more catch up viewers

Cal.
16-06-2017, 09:33 AM
If anything, maybe people are just more keen to watch love island live because of the hype - whereas maybe BB will have a lot more catch up viewers

Yeah and for a lot of people 10 PM is much too late.

Sunday ratings are the true test for what the series should be getting usually really considering it's on at 9pm and doesn't have the low ratings of a Saturday night.

supertv247
16-06-2017, 09:37 AM
Yeah and for a lot of people 10 PM is much too late.

Sunday ratings are the true test for what the series should be getting usually really considering it's on at 9pm and doesn't have the low ratings of a Saturday night.

But then it has a full on clash with love island... It never really has a good day, which then again might mean it's doing really well in catch up figures. Will see on Monday..

T*
16-06-2017, 09:46 AM
I can't see LI getting much with catch up figures thinking about it now. I said last night they'll probably reach BB14 highs at 2 million but I can't see anymore than 1.5 million people that interested in it.

I think quite a few might watch it on ITV hub, I know my SIL does

T*
16-06-2017, 09:47 AM
Lmao if LI announces live feed and BBUK is like 'hmm *pouts* well we're evicting half our cast and Marc O'Neill and Dexter Koh are going back in so'
lmao this is exactly their logic too

T*
16-06-2017, 10:08 AM
I guess tonight will be a moment of truth to see if people actually watch an eviction

y.winter
16-06-2017, 10:27 AM
This is truly embarrassing. Heads should be rolling in C5. This is not how a broadcaster should handle its flagship programme. This is not even related to BB. This is pure unprofessionalism. Ben Frow, you have been evicted please say your goodbyes.

Jordan.
16-06-2017, 10:27 AM
Yikes, is BB19 already confirmed cause...

Greg!
16-06-2017, 11:15 AM
This is truly embarrassing. Heads should be rolling in C5. This is not how a broadcaster should handle its flagship programme. This is not even related to BB. This is pure unprofessionalism. Ben Frow, you have been evicted please say your goodbyes.

Ben frow doesn't even like big brother so I doubt he's that bothered

Greg!
16-06-2017, 11:16 AM
Yikes, is BB19 already confirmed cause...

It's contracted until then but I think they can still cancel it if they want :worry:

Cal.
16-06-2017, 11:19 AM
They'll probably switch summer CBB and civilian BB around next year to combat Love Island.

CBB will beat LI and it'll then stop the comparisons between that and civilian when civilian airs for a few weeks in August/September.

Nicky91
16-06-2017, 11:20 AM
ratings will go up once Charlotte is out tonight :clap2:

armand.kay
16-06-2017, 11:54 AM
ratings will go up once Charlotte is out tonight :clap2:

No they won't.

armand.kay
16-06-2017, 11:55 AM
Charlotte has been featured for like 2 minutes this entire week where on earth did you get the idea that she's what's causing people not to watch?

armand.kay
16-06-2017, 11:57 AM
The only way ratings will go up is if the people already watching on demand/recorded decide to start watching live because I can't imagine a bunch of people tuning in this far into the series unless they do another celeb twist.

Greg!
16-06-2017, 12:05 PM
They'll probably switch summer CBB and civilian BB around next year to combat Love Island.

CBB will beat LI and it'll then stop the comparisons between that and civilian when civilian airs for a few weeks in August/September.

Perched for three CBBs in a row!

Nicky91
16-06-2017, 01:19 PM
Charlotte has been featured for like 2 minutes this entire week where on earth did you get the idea that she's what's causing people not to watch?

i'm sorry for being dramatic, i'm already starting to cry now :(

maybe with a undeserved eviction like Charlotte ratings could go further down, like people thinking wtf


having said that, i don't want the producers to force a storyline/showmance on her, she would only feel miserable and we would have a Georgina 2.0


just for ratings i can see producers doing something like that :facepalm:

irishdave
16-06-2017, 02:56 PM
I reckon the eviction will be lucky to get a rating of 800,000 tonight....just my gut feeling!

Jodie.
16-06-2017, 03:05 PM
Officials will be around 1.2m imo, the only reason it’s rating low is because it’s on at 10pm

supertv247
16-06-2017, 03:14 PM
Officials will be around 1.2m imo, the only reason it’s rating low is because it’s on at 10pm

Last year added around 450k each night. It averaged 1.15 overnight and 1.6 officially, so perhaps because it's on later this year more people are deciding to watch on catchup? If most episodes could average 500k on catch up that would take it to 1.5m average which isn't too bad. Not far off the usual 1.6 and still more than BB16's 1.4

RichardG
16-06-2017, 08:40 PM
Officials will be around 1.2m imo, the only reason it’s rating low is because it’s on at 10pm

i'm sure the show has been on around 10pm for a long time now but the overnight ratings were not usually this low

T*
16-06-2017, 08:50 PM
Officials will be around 1.2m imo, the only reason it’s rating low is because it’s on at 10pm

that's hopeful i guess
it's not though

Jodie.
16-06-2017, 09:44 PM
i'm sure the show has been on around 10pm for a long time now but the overnight ratings were not usually this low

It was on for 9pm most nights last year, just a few were at 10pm - and didn’t the 10pm ones have strong catch-up figures?

supertv247
17-06-2017, 10:14 AM
Including +1

Love Island - 1.26m
Big Brother - 0.93m

BBBOTS - 450k

The gap is closing and its a good sign that the Friday, which clashed with love island, is the most watched episode all week but still not good enough IMO

Cal.
17-06-2017, 10:18 AM
Mess.

Cal.
17-06-2017, 10:18 AM
Tbh I only watched the last 30 mins.

Greg!
17-06-2017, 11:08 AM
Love island is a flop CONFIRMED!!

supertv247
17-06-2017, 11:19 AM
I think love island might have peaked, if BB does something good in the next week it could close up

Samm
17-06-2017, 12:39 PM
just cancel next week eviction since sukhi left and send in four new good housemates and promote it, simple.

Greg!
17-06-2017, 12:46 PM
I think love island might have peaked, if BB does something good in the next week it could close up

Doubt it, it was a Friday night and lots of people were out. It'll probs have higher ratings next week if anything