TiBB Eurovision Song Contest: Minsk 2018 [The winner is... Kirk!]

[Amy Jade]

I mean, I wouldn't accuse Mock of anything untoward, but the "public vote" was literally an anonymous poll that you could vote multiple times on :laugh:

:skull:

Should have been a one vote poll. Doubt anyone would cheat though lbh

[Vicky.]

They love a bop

I think I just dont understand the voting format tbh

Luckily the judges vote was easy to understand :laugh:

[Josiah.]

9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 points (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 points (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 points (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)

[kirklancaster]

Wait, it was about suicidy?

I think it was Mock's which was the car accident one unless I'm not remembering right. :laugh:

[Josiah.]

Well done Shaun...

[Shaun]

Well poop! My maths is bad, I worked out I had 222.

[Wizard.]

Oh Shaun, it’s hard going first, but I like your song, and two hosts getting the same amount of points, how pointoint

[kirklancaster]

Well done, Shaun.

[Vicky.]

I mean, I wouldn't accuse Mock of anything untoward, but the "public vote" was literally an anonymous poll that you could vote multiple times on :laugh:

Ahhh right.

I thought the public vote was basically..PMing with your top ones. I think I may be a bit behind on how to vote D:

[MB.]

:skull:

Should have been a one vote poll. Doubt anyone would cheat though lbh

Yeah, same... I think it's just the nature of this system that when one is a lot higher than the other two, it just stands out as looking a bit disproportionate

(well done Shaun and everyone else who's been ranked so far btw :love:)

[Underscore]

So right now the highest vote I have left is my 1st and the lowest is 14th...

[Wizard.]

so many good one stop left not even my physique abilities can predict this outcome

[Josiah.]

In 8th place...

with 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)...

and 1 of the first 8 people to break Shaun's record...

[Shaun]

record? :suspect: points?

[kirklancaster]

What record?

[Josiah.]

Shaun, your record of points from Christmasvision 2017...

[Amy Jade]

Guessing the record is highest points?

[Shaun]

oh. bit easy when the judges' is doubled and a new public poll is being whacked on top isn't it :suspect:

[Wizard.]

oh. bit easy when the judges' is doubled and a new public poll is being whacked on top isn't it :suspect:

Don’t worry... be happy

[Josiah.]

8th: https://i.imgur.com/3Uso6WM.png
Iceland - 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)
9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 points (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 points (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 points (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)

[Wizard.]

Wow, Niamh! But I love Melania. Thanks for spreading the message for her freedom, political activism is important!

[kirklancaster]

Well done, Niamh - I genuinely expected this being higher.

[Wizard.]

I have a top three prediction but I don’t wanna say

[MB.]

Well that's my top three (or, at least, three of my top... four? Five? idk) gone! Great job anyway, Niamh :love: /freemelania

[Josiah.]

In 7th place...

with 363 points (264 - Judges, 39 - Juries, 60 - Public)...

[Josiah.]

7th: https://i.imgur.com/it0XlYt.png
Bosnia & Herzegovina - 363 points (264 - Judges, 39 - Juries, 60 - Public)
8th: https://i.imgur.com/3Uso6WM.png
Iceland - 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)
9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 points (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 points (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 points (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)

[Shaun]

I assume someone's had fun with the public poll :pipe:

[Wizard.]

Omg Dezzy, that was one of my top three predictions :love: well done sweetie

[kirklancaster]

MASSIVE shock. Well done though.

[Underscore]

Welp that's my choice gone - well done gal!

[MB.]

I blame the Russians. gj Dezzy :love:

[Josiah.]

In 6th place...

with 399 pts. (276 - Judges, 43 - Juries, 80 - Public)...

[Amy Jade]

I assume someone's had fun with the public poll :pipe:

I agree. The points are too uneven to be genuine.

[Josiah.]

Also, I calculated the public points in the same way that they do it at Melfest.

And after 6th place, we've broken the 400 point barrier.

[kirklancaster]

There is a huge difference in the Judges scores and public but that might be the cost of allowing people to vote multiple times?

[Wizard.]

There is a huge difference in the Judges scores and public but that might be the cost of allowing people to vote multiple times?

Yeah but I just guess Josiah is trying to make it more realistic in that it’s what happens in the real one except for there’s no way of stopping people from voting for themselves

[Josiah.]

But I have a feeling that someone spammed the voting specifically for Livia, and she hasn't been online since last night...

[kirklancaster]

Yeah but I just guess Josiah is trying to make it more realistic in that it’s what happens in the real one except for there’s no way of stopping people from voting for themselves

I'm not complaining - I'm still in and my best placing was 4th with my first ever entry.

[Amy Jade]

But I have a feeling that someone spammed the voting specifically for Livia, and she hasn't been online since last night...

Livia won?

[Josiah.]

6th: https://i.imgur.com/yOa1nrl.png
Estonia - 399 pts. (276 - Judges, 43 - Juries, 80 - Public)
7th: https://i.imgur.com/it0XlYt.png
Bosnia & Herzegovina - 363 points (264 - Judges, 39 - Juries, 60 - Public)
8th: https://i.imgur.com/3Uso6WM.png
Iceland - 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)
9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 points (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 points (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 points (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)

[MB.]

Yeah but I just guess Josiah is trying to make it more realistic in that it’s what happens in the real one except for there’s no way of stopping people from voting for themselves

I've seen similar polls that ask for you to enter your username after you've voted... sure, people could still pretend to be mizzy25 or whoever, but it might be less of an incentive to just spam your own country repeatedly

[Underscore]

What :(

[Wizard.]

WTH... another of my top three predictions gone... and Adams is still in? And a song a bout Billie fookin Piper?

[kirklancaster]

I had MB way up in the top 2 - Well done MB.

[MB.]

Anyway, there was a point earlier today when I was convinced a certain member would be petty enough to rig me into last place, so I'm fully satisfied with that placement :laugh: Thanks all

[Wizard.]

I have one song left I thought was gonna win let’s see

[Underscore]

Okay so my lowest choice is now 5th and my highest is 14th

[Josiah.]

In 5th place...

with 438 points... (228 - Judges, 12 - Juries, 198 - Public)...

[Shaun]

My top two are still in but I shan't hold out much hope :ninja2:

[MB.]

I had MB way up in the top 2 - Well done MB.

You'd better win at this point to keep the sanctity of politically-charged TiBB Eurovision entries alive, Kirk! *starts singing We Shall Not Be Moved*

(or maybe Billie Piper)

[Denver]

I don't deserve top 5

[Wizard.]

I don't deserve top 5

We love self awareness

[MB.]

I don't deserve top 5

I mean, if you insist...

[kirklancaster]

I don't deserve top 5

:laugh: I know that a lot of members were going to vote for me but I don't think I'll win the Judges vote. :laugh:

[Shaun]

So there's Italy, Lebanon, Israel, UK and Greece left :think:

[Denver]

Brillo staged an anti vote against Dezzy?

[Wizard.]

So there's Italy, Lebanon, Israel, UK and Greece left :think:

Australia

[MB.]

So there's Italy, Lebanon, Israel, UK and Greece left :think:

Not Italy doing a Morgan McMichaels

[kirklancaster]

I don't deserve top 5

Voters obviously disagree with you. :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

So there's Italy, Lebanon, Israel, UK and Greece left :think:

Poor Coco forgotten

https://image.ibb.co/dmR5mT/php_X8kfp7_AM.jpg

[Shaun]

Mess I assumed we were at 5th now from Adam's post :laugh: Australia too

Double mess: no he was right I just forgot Italy got culled early on

[Josiah.]

5th: https://i.imgur.com/Kw9yW4q.png
Australia - 438 pts. (228 - Judges, 12 - Juries, 198 - Public)
6th: https://i.imgur.com/yOa1nrl.png
Estonia - 399 pts. (276 - Judges, 43 - Juries, 80 - Public)
7th: https://i.imgur.com/it0XlYt.png
Bosnia & Herzegovina - 363 pts. (264 - Judges, 39 - Juries, 60 - Public)
8th: https://i.imgur.com/3Uso6WM.png
Iceland - 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)
9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 pts. (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 pts. (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 pts. (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts. (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts. (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)

[kirklancaster]

Poor Coco forgotten

https://image.ibb.co/dmR5mT/php_X8kfp7_AM.jpg

:laugh2:

[Amy Jade]

198 from public :umm2:

Defo something weird gone on here

[kirklancaster]

Woah - Go Girl. Well done A.J.

[Wizard.]

Ugh no </3 so robbed. Oh well I’m next then, the commonwealth is sinking and the win will go to a poor country or a country in war like the real version

[MB.]

Well done Amy :love:

[Amy Jade]

Juries paying me dust though. Scum confirmed.

[Wizard.]

Juries paying me dust though. Scum confirmed.

They ain’t got love

[Josiah.]

In 4th place...

with 506 pts. (102 - Judges, 14 - Juries, 390 - Public)...

[kirklancaster]

Juries paying me dust though. Scum confirmed.

You had my vote.

[Shaun]

390 - Public)...

lol

[Wizard.]

390 public...

[MB.]

In 4th place...

with 506 pts. (102 - Judges, 14 - Juries, 390 - Public)...

l m f a o

Own up, which of you rigged this one

[LukeB]

fishy?

[Amy Jade]

390 from the public...lol

[montblanc]

miss coco was robbed
https://image.ibb.co/dmR5mT/php_X8kfp7_AM.jpg

[Wizard.]

I would rather have a high jury vote than public otherwise it looks stinky

[Amy Jade]

miss coco was robbed
https://image.ibb.co/dmR5mT/php_X8kfp7_AM.jpg

She shall comfort herself with ben and jerrys cookie dough and a 24 pack of monster munch!

[Josiah.]

4th: https://i.imgur.com/MnqWN6V.png
Lebanon - 506 pts. (102 - Judges, 14 - Juries, 390 - Public)
5th: https://i.imgur.com/Kw9yW4q.png
Australia - 438 pts. (228 - Judges, 12 - Juries, 198 - Public)
6th: https://i.imgur.com/yOa1nrl.png
Estonia - 399 pts. (276 - Judges, 43 - Juries, 80 - Public)
7th: https://i.imgur.com/it0XlYt.png
Bosnia & Herzegovina - 363 pts. (264 - Judges, 39 - Juries, 60 - Public)
8th: https://i.imgur.com/3Uso6WM.png
Iceland - 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)
9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 pts. (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 pts. (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 pts. (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts. (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts. (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)

[Shaun]

Without the "public" vote it'd literally be 15th :joker: (unless someone in the top 3 has done even worse with the regular voting)

*15th: would've beaten Mock too

[Wizard.]

Hmm okay

[MB.]

Congrats on 16th place, Adam!

[Withano]

Just caught up. The new voting system is absurd! At least one person had a very free day and ruined the fun for everybody.

[Wizard.]

I’m gonna feint I’m on the top three again

[kirklancaster]

She shall comfort herself with ben and jerrys cookie dough and a 24 pack of monster munch!

:laugh::laugh::laugh: I wouldn't have thought that just looking at her.. :hee:

[Wizard.]

Kirk has this :love:

[MB.]

I’m gonna feint I’m on the top three again

Turns out we do all love Billie Piper!

[Denver]

Mess

[kirklancaster]

Very Well Done, Adam.

[Wizard.]

Turns out we do all love Billie Piper!

Everyone felt sorry for meh?

[MB.]

Everyone felt sorry for meh?

SuRie only wishes

[Amy Jade]

Turns out we do all love Billie Piper!

Or one person did repeatedly...all day...:umm2:

[Josiah.]

In 3rd place...

with 560 pts. (212 - Judges, 9 - Juries :shrug:, 339 - Public)...

[Shaun]

Still have my top two at least :think: but all of the final 3 have to have benefitted from some dodgy voting as well.

[Wizard.]

Welp at a high judge and public vote but such a low jury vote

[Amy Jade]

9 from the jury :skull:

[Barry.]

congrats to everyone so far.

[Josiah.]

3rd: https://i.imgur.com/SGDpptm.png
United Kingdom - 560 pts. (212 - Judges, 9 - Juries , 339 - Public)
4th: https://i.imgur.com/MnqWN6V.png
Lebanon - 506 pts. (102 - Judges, 14 - Juries, 390 - Public)
5th: https://i.imgur.com/Kw9yW4q.png
Australia - 438 pts. (228 - Judges, 12 - Juries, 198 - Public)
6th: https://i.imgur.com/yOa1nrl.png
Estonia - 399 pts. (276 - Judges, 43 - Juries, 80 - Public)
7th: https://i.imgur.com/it0XlYt.png
Bosnia & Herzegovina - 363 pts. (264 - Judges, 39 - Juries, 60 - Public)
8th: https://i.imgur.com/3Uso6WM.png
Iceland - 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)
9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 pts. (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 pts. (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 pts. (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts. (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts. (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)

[Vicky.]

I am so mad for Josiah and the entrants in this farce right now.

Like seriously...whats the point in doing this?

But at least people had fun. Its pathetic though, that someone (or multiple someones) would care this much to rig it tbh

[Barry.]

Surprised Lewis is so low.

[MB.]

Well yeah maybe the juries could give or take Billie Piper I guess

[Wizard.]

3rd again :love: thanks guys, even if someone voted for me loads :joker:

[Amy Jade]

Livia v Kirk

[Underscore]

Well done Riley :love:

[Wizard.]

Well yeah maybe the juries could give or take Billie Piper I guess

They need to get some taste

[Barry.]

Congrats Riley.

[kirklancaster]

Congratulations, Riley - Well done.

[Shaun]

Both are due a win in this game so I'm happy whoever wins, but I did put Kirk top of my judges' ranking so #TeamKirk (sorry Livia, I'll accept the beating later).

[Withano]

Livia v Kirk

Well, ive got a couple suspect who the rigger was. Bit sad.

[Wizard.]

Well done Riley :love:

Thank you sweetie, every year I have done better... 11th then 6th then 3rd now 3rd again I’m coming back at Christmas with a BOP ugetme x

[kirklancaster]

Livia v Kirk

I've NO chance against Liv.

[Josiah.]

In 2nd place...

with 1,113 pts. (194 - Judges, 29 - Juries, 890 - Public :shocked:)...





https://i.imgur.com/6Yje9jq.png


which means...

[Vicky.]

Or one person did repeatedly...all day...:umm2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9LjOQVBFmA

[MB.]

Come thru Diane Abbott!

[Kazanne]

Fingers crossed for Livia and Kirk

[Amy Jade]

890 from the public wtf

[Withano]

890 public :joker: someone needs to get a life

[MB.]

...yeah sorry Josiah but you really should have disregarded these results at this point

[Wizard.]

My winner :flutter:

[Withano]

Who won, excluding the public vote, cos thats all anybody should care about

[kirklancaster]

Both are due a win in this game so I'm happy whoever wins, but I did put Kirk top of my judges' ranking so #TeamKirk (sorry Livia, I'll accept the beating later).

Thank you, Shaun - And THIS is why I have always loved you from my first days on here. You are fair.

[Underscore]

KIRK :love:

[Wizard.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9LjOQVBFmA

That better be because you know your Billie Piper references and not a finger pointed at me!

[MB.]

Well done Kirk, even if you may have had some unwanted assistance along the way :love: Deserved winner

[Barry.]

A lot of people voted?

[montblanc]

congrats kirk!
https://78.media.tumblr.com/a5106dc137580e8218205001d19d8f03/tumblr_p5nydjEX1w1tddlqho3_400.gif

[Shaun]

890 :joker:

Yeah sorry Josiah but I'm taking this back over for Xmasvision. Nothing against the way you've hosted the game, I'm more than happy to keep you as a video designer and everything, but you are sadly too naive and trusting of this site :laugh:

Congrats Kirk. You should indeed have won, but not like this. :clap1:

[Kazanne]

Well done Livia, and nice one Kirk

[Barry.]

Congrats Kirk, my favourite.

[Underscore]

congrats kirk!
https://78.media.tumblr.com/a5106dc137580e8218205001d19d8f03/tumblr_p5nydjEX1w1tddlqho3_400.gif

bitch dont appropriate shangela when u dont watch the show

[Wizard.]

I still think Kirk would have won, just maybe the other ordering would be quite different :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

Congrats everyone. Bit of a shame it's been tampered with but very deserving winner ♡

[Vicky.]

That better be because you know your Billie Piper references and not a finger pointed at me!

Ahaha I was a bit obsessed with Billie at one stage

Also that song was my fave :p

[Shaun]

*we find out now Kirk got 2.4 million votes from the public :joker:*

[Amy Jade]

Someone subtract the public vote to see the positions! haha

[RileyH]

Congrats Kirk (& everyone else) :clap1:

[Josiah.]

1st: https://i.imgur.com/CRAhC90.png
Greece - 1,141 pts. (228 - Judges, 40 - Juries, 873 - Public)
2nd: https://i.imgur.com/6Yje9jq.png
Israel - 1,113 pts. (194 - Judges, 29 - Juries, 890 - Public)
3rd: https://i.imgur.com/SGDpptm.png
United Kingdom - 560 pts. (212 - Judges, 9 - Juries , 339 - Public)
4th: https://i.imgur.com/MnqWN6V.png
Lebanon - 506 pts. (102 - Judges, 14 - Juries, 390 - Public)
5th: https://i.imgur.com/Kw9yW4q.png
Australia - 438 pts. (228 - Judges, 12 - Juries, 198 - Public)
6th: https://i.imgur.com/yOa1nrl.png
Estonia - 399 pts. (276 - Judges, 43 - Juries, 80 - Public)
7th: https://i.imgur.com/it0XlYt.png
Bosnia & Herzegovina - 363 pts. (264 - Judges, 39 - Juries, 60 - Public)
8th: https://i.imgur.com/3Uso6WM.png
Iceland - 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)
9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 pts. (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 pts. (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 pts. (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts. (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts. (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)



BTW, I am completely disregarding the Juries in December, because the low scoring and the riggery for Livia is too off.

[Wizard.]

Also well done Josiah this was great I needed a break from Augustine and Rudolph they needed retiring

[Wizard.]

Juries? Do you mean public?

[montblanc]

bitch dont appropriate shangela when u dont watch the show

oop me exposed
https://78.media.tumblr.com/45345249872f6e25836f042192dafbc6/tumblr_p4q3ksIECb1vojxp4o1_400.gif

[Withano]

so mb won, with Dezzy 2nd.

[Underscore]

oop me exposed
https://78.media.tumblr.com/45345249872f6e25836f042192dafbc6/tumblr_p4q3ksIECb1vojxp4o1_400.gif

stop appropriating miz cracker now

[Josiah.]

https://i.imgur.com/CRAhC90.png
Kalispera, and welcome to you all from my beautiful city of Athens.

We are honoured this evening that our entry features two true legends of the Music Industry; Ken Livingstone and Jeremy Corbyn – or Saggy and Jazza as they are better known to millions of Pop Fans.

Their friend Diane Abbott was locked away in her bedroom with a calculator trying to work out how many thousands are in a Carillion, but has kindly agreed to tear herself away to join them on stage to sing backing vocals.

So, with two Double Platinum-Selling albums; ‘Palestine Terrorist Organisation or Diane Abbott Twerking, It’s still HAM ASS To us’ and the iconic ‘Red, Red Swine’, please give your applause for Saggy featuring Jazza and ‘It Wasn’t Me’:

2g5Hz17C4is

Saggy featuring Jazza
"It Wasn't Me"

(Yo, Comrade) Yo Jeremy.
(Open up, I’m in the Shet man) What do you want, man?
(The Media just caught me ) You let them catch you AGAIN?
(They KNOW I’ve been shagging) With whom?
(Abbott. My ex-oar, you know) Man
(I don’t know what to do) Say it wasn’t you
(Alright)

Media been digging and caught me red-handed
Cheating on my wife and more.

Picure this; me and Abbott butt-naked, banging on a Berlin floor

Why can’t they forget that I had
Done all this and let me be?
All this time I’ve got away with it
But now they’ve got their eyes on me.

How could you be bonking with that ugly passion-killer
She’s got a body like King Kong and a head like Godzilla
She’s more scary than Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller’
And you need a 2 foot cock if you gonna drill her

You’re a born liar so you know how to play
If they say “You did this” deny and walk away
Never admit any wrong you do or say.
‘Tea On The terrace with the IRA?’ No W-a-y

But they know my Marxist cause (It wasn't me)
I banged in Abbott’s Back Doors (It wasn’t me)
Know my Hamas friends are real (It wasn’t me)
I lied on TV to Andrew Neill (It wasn’t me)

Was in Palestine Live (It wasn’t me)
Let Anti-Semitism thrive (It wasn't me)
Calls for me to GO getting louder (It wasn't me)
Hope my PM dream ain’t over

Media been digging and caught me red-handed
Being a lying creep and more

Picture this, me and Abbott butt-naked, banging on a Berlin floor

I have tried to keep the Public
From seeing the truth about me.
I am desperate that they believe me
When I tell them it wasn't me.

Make sure you’re incognito when you go out for sex.
Wear your favourite niqab and your darkest specs.
Abbott or Terrorist, whoever’s ass ya licked,
It ain’t gonna matter ‘long as the public’s tricked.

But you know they gon' bring 'bout things up from the past.
All the damning evidence you better know to mask.
Making them believe you is such an easy task.
But if there’s proof get on ya bike and better pedal f-a-s-t.

They know the bad thing’s I’ve said (It wasn't me)
I’ve got subversion in my head (It wasn’t me)
Got in the terrorist bed (It wasn’t me)
Shagged Abbott when I was wed (It wasn’t me)

I’m in the shet real deep (It wasn’t me)
Made Election pledges I can’t keep (It wasn't me)
Calls for me to GO getting louder (It wasn't me)
Hope my PM dream ain’t over

Media been digging and caught me red-handed
Of being treasonous and more

Picture this; sipping tea with terrorists, outside the Commons door.

I have tried to keep the Public
From seeing the truth about me
I’m desperate that they believe me
When I tell them it wasn't me

Gonna tell them I’m sorry
For the pain that I’ve caused
Hope they don’t think about my denials
‘cos they make no sense at all

Why won’t they accept that I’m just a normal chap
With my Karl Marx Book, rusty bike, and Comrade Lenin cap.
That’s why I whinge.

Media digging and caught me red-handed
Of being a lying creep and more.

Picture this, me and Abbott butt-naked, banging on a Berlin floor.

Why can’t they forget that I had
Done all this and let me be?
All this time I’ve got away with it
But now they’ve got their eyes on me.

The performance ends and Jazza, Saggy and Diane take a bow amid a Standing Ovation.

Goodnight from Athens and please vote for our entry. "Efxaristo". Thank You.

[MB.]

Well, I guess I'll take being the Shangela to your Trixie, Kirk (and I have full confidence that that reference went right over your head. I apologise )... honestly, shenanigans aside, I'm fine with not winning, considering it'd be a little rude to hog the title two years in a row :laugh: I thought this year was overall one of the strongest in a while so it's a shame that somebody seemingly tried to ruin it, but yeah, points aside, well done all

Looking forward to Xmasvision, Shaun!

[Vicky.]

Well done Kirk. You were my number 2 vote :D

Can't remember if this usually gets done or not, but I feel the need to reveal my votes round about now. But then think some may take offense at my placings as I did not vote based on whos my 'friend' or not...as that seems a bit daft? Pointless voting at all if its just for friends rather than entries.

[kirklancaster]

Wow - Thank you, everybody. I wanted to beat my previous best 4th place (All The Single Laddies) and I'm glad I have. It's a shame this controversy has rubbed some of the 'lustre' off my 'moment' but I really appreciate all of you who had me for your winner anyway. Thank you.

[Cherie]

Congrats Kirk :love:

Great layout Josiah and good job on a slick presentation

[Shaun]

So without the poll:

1st: MB - 319
2nd: Dezzy - 303
3rd: Josiah - 278
4th: Kirk - 268
5th: Shaun - 266
6th: Amy Jade - 240
7th: LukeB - 232
8th: Livia - 223
9th: Riley - 221
10th: Niamh - 202
11th: Lewis - 184
12th: Lucas - 179
13th: Babayaro - 167
14th: Jamie89 - 141
15th: Adam - 116
16th: Mystic Mock - 79
17th: Nicky - 71

[Barry.]

Congrats Josiah on the show.

[MB.]

Wow - Thank you, everybody. I wanted to beat my previous best 4th place (All The Single Laddies) and I'm glad I have. It's a shame this controversy has rubbed some of the 'lustre' off my 'moment' but I really appreciate all of you who had me for your winner anyway. Thank you.

Honestly, you deserved the win for "Ham Ass" alone

[kirklancaster]

so mb won, with Dezzy 2nd.

Oh, go away.

[Wizard.]

So without the poll:

1st: MB
2nd: Dezzy -
3rd: Josiah - 278
4th: Kirk - 268
5th: Shaun - 266
6th: Amy Jade - 240
7th: LukeB - 232
8th: Livia - 223
9th: Riley - 221
10th: Niamh - 202
11th: Lewis - 184
12th: Lucas - 179
13th: Babayaro - 167
14th: Jamie89 - 141
15th: Adam - 116
16th: Mystic Mock - 79
17th: Nicky - 71

Poor Nicky :skull:

And I loved MB, and obviously some people are really talented at this, but it’s nice to have different winners, and let new talent shine through

[MB.]

So without the poll:

1st: MB - 319
2nd: Dezzy - 303
3rd: Josiah - 278
4th: Kirk - 268
5th: Shaun - 266
6th: Amy Jade - 240
7th: LukeB - 232
8th: Livia - 223
9th: Riley - 221
10th: Niamh - 202
11th: Lewis - 184
12th: Lucas - 179
13th: Babayaro - 167
14th: Jamie89 - 141
15th: Adam - 116
16th: Mystic Mock - 79
17th: Nicky - 71

Now I feel bad that Josiah shot himself in the foot by not disregarding the public vote more than anyone :laugh:

[Wizard.]

Yeah “smash Abbott’s back doors in” will stick with me forever

[Withano]

Oh, go away.

Over 800 public votes kirk, even you have to agree that there probably wasnt 800 voters haha. You have a vey good mate who fixed your win, and Livias 2nd, sorry.

[Wizard.]

The U.K. jury votes. The U.K. did indeed give 12 points to... Greece!

12 points - Greece
10 points - Portugal
8 points - Estonia
7 points - VaticanCity
6 points - Bosnia and Herzegovina
5 points - Iceland
4 points - Australia
3 points - Norway
2 points - Italy
1 point - France

[MB.]

The U.K. jury votes. The U.K. did indeed give 12 points to... Greece!

12 points - Greece
10 points - Portugal
8 points - Estonia
7 points - VaticanCity
6 points - Bosnia and Herzegovina
5 points - Iceland
4 points - Australia
3 points - Norway
2 points - Italy
1 point - France

Thanks gorgeous :love:

[Shaun]

My ranking, with comments that I 100% edited before making them public:

1) Greece
2) United Kingdom
3) Denmark
4) Estonia
5) Italy
6) Portugal
7) Israel
8) Norway
9) Croatia
10) Iceland
11) Australia
12) Bosnia & Herzegovina
13) France
14) Latvia
15) Lebanon
16) Vatican
17) Czech Republic

*the bolded rankings proving how well I favourite my friends :skull:

[Morgan.]

My Jury Votes are in!

1) B+H
2) UK
3) Estonia
4) Portugal
5) France
6) Norway
7) Iceland
8) Greece
9) Australia
10) Italy
11) Lebanon
12) Denmark
13) Israel
14) Vatican City
15) Croatia
16) Czech Republic
17) Latvia

[Underscore]

As one of the judges for this year's Eurovision, these were my choices:

1st - Bosnia & Herzegovina (34 points)
2nd - Estonia (32 points)
3rd - Iceland (30 points)
4th - Norway (28 points)
5th - Australia (26 points)
6th - Denmark (24 points)
7th - Greece (22 points)
8th - Israel (20 points)
9th - Latvia (18 points)
10th - Portugal (16 points)
11th - France (14 points)
12th - United Kingdom (12 points)
13th - Czech Republic (10 points)
14th - Lebanon (8 points)
15th - Italy (6 points)
16th - Vatican City (4 points)
17th - Croatia (2 points)

[Underscore]

1st to 7th were really close and hard to rank!

[Wizard.]

My Jury Votes are in!

1) B+H
2) UK
3) Estonia
4) Portugal
5) France
6) Norway
7) Iceland
8) Greece
9) Australia
10) Italy
11) Lebanon
12) Denmark
13) Israel
14) Vatican City
15) Croatia
16) Czech Republic
17) Latvia

Thanks! Billie Piper thanks you... wherever she is right now... probably playing a prozzie

[Jøsh]

https://i.imgur.com/xAEDrMx.png

[Amy Jade]

Thank you for the votes guys

Underscore :love:

[MB.]

Thanks Shaun! And Morgan! And Underscore! And Josh! And Donna, Lynn, Pat, Laurie, Shelly, Aaliyah, Rose, Brian, Darren and Ulysses!

[Underscore]

Thanks Shaun! And Morgan! And Underscore! And Josh! And Donna, Lynn, Pat, Laurie, Shelly, Aaliyah, Rose, Brian, Darren and Ulysses!

Thank you for the votes guys

Underscore :love:

Welcome!!! xx

[Vicky.]

My votes were as follows

1st Estonia
2nd Greece
3rd Bosnia
4th Denmark
5th Italy
6th UK
7th Norway
8th Iceland
9th Australia
10th Latvia
11th Portugal
12th Israel
13th France
14th Lebanon
15th Croatia
16th Czech Republic
17th Vatican City

[kirklancaster]

Over 800 public votes kirk, even you have to agree that there probably wasnt 800 voters haha. You have a vey good mate who fixed your win, and Livias 2nd, sorry.

This has been a brilliant competition and I have found common ground on here with a lot of younger members whom I now like and respect.

This is because, despite my song parody being about Corbyn and Abbott and Livingstone, it WAS written as a bit of piss-taking fun and to my GREAT delight it has been received in exactly that way by everybody.

I know that certain members WERE going to vote for me and if they multi-voted to the tune of 100's of votes, then even though I would rather that did not happen, it is surely no different from other members or Judges voting for their friends or favourite members rather than the quality of song - something which most certainly DOES happen.

I just did not want any 'politics' or 'personality' problems spoiling this thread and this comp and I am more than genuinely willing to give this 'Win' up and be pleased to have MB have it because MB and Livia were my top 2.

If that satisfies you, Withano.

[Shaun]

*snatches the crown off Kirk because of this fiasco and gives it straight back to Kirk because MB already has one and I liked Kirk's song more and nobody is allowed more than one that's...just...yeah....*

[Withano]

This has been a brilliant competition and I have found common ground on here with a lot of younger members whom I now like and respect.

This is because, despite my song parody being about Corbyn and Abbott and Livingstone, it WAS written as a bit of piss-taking fun and to my GREAT delight it has been received in exactly that way by everybody.

I know that certain members WERE going to vote for me and if they multi-voted to the tune of 100's of votes, then even though I would rather that did not happen, it is surely no different from other members or Judges voting for their friends or favourite members rather than the quality of song - something which most certainly DOES happen.

I just did not want any 'politics' or 'personality' problems spoiling this thread and this comp and I am more than genuinely willing to give this 'Win' up and be pleased to have MB have it because MB and Livia were my top 2.

If that satisfies you, Withano.

The show is always great, I always look forward to it every time its on.

It was clearly ruined by the poll, and somebody voting in it 700 times or more, thus making the judge and jury scores entirely irrelevant.

All that any future winner has to do now is literally enter anything and sit on their computer refreshing a screen all day.

Nothing personal kirk. I don’t believe it was you that was refreshing your computer all day. But somebody did, and that ruined it for everybody.

[MB.]

Thanks Vicky and Kirk. I really appreciate the two of you enjoying my entry, if not just because I assumed a lot of people on here... wouldn't, lol :love:

Also, just to clarify that like most people here, I don't think any of us rigged the vote and none of us should be judged unfairly for someone else's sabotage... in fact, if it were one of us, I wouldn't have even been mad, because if one of us wanted the win so badly that they voted for themselves 800-odd times then I say why not give it to them? It's the fact that whoever spam-voted thought that they were helping Kirk, Livia, Adam etc (that is, if the same person was responsible for each) when in reality they were just putting a dampener on their success. On the plus side, it gives us all plenty of material to use for Xmasvision :clap1:

[Amy Jade]

I know that certain members WERE going to vote for me and if they multi-voted to the tune of 100's of votes, then even though I would rather that did not happen, it is surely no different from other members or Judges voting for their friends or favourite members rather than the quality of song - something which most certainly DOES happen
I agree with this to be honest.

Even without the public poll some simply vote for friends. It's a shame but it's just a forum game and like all forum voted games popularity and friendships can sway votes. Part and parcel of taking part really.

[kirklancaster]

The U.K. jury votes. The U.K. did indeed give 12 points to... Greece!

12 points - Greece
10 points - Portugal
8 points - Estonia
7 points - VaticanCity
6 points - Bosnia and Herzegovina
5 points - Iceland
4 points - Australia
3 points - Norway
2 points - Italy
1 point - France

Thank you, Riley. It means a lot.

[kirklancaster]

My votes were as follows

1st Estonia
2nd Greece
3rd Bosnia
4th Denmark
5th Italy
6th UK
7th Norway
8th Iceland
9th Australia
10th Latvia
11th Portugal
12th Israel
13th France
14th Lebanon
15th Croatia
16th Czech Republic
17th Vatican City

Thanks, Vicky.

[kirklancaster]

*snatches the crown off Kirk because of this fiasco and gives it straight back to Kirk because MB already has one and I liked Kirk's song more and nobody is allowed more than one that's...just...yeah....*

Thank you, Shaun. You know how much I value your opinion. Thanks.

[Kazanne]

This has been a brilliant competition and I have found common ground on here with a lot of younger members whom I now like and respect.

This is because, despite my song parody being about Corbyn and Abbott and Livingstone, it WAS written as a bit of piss-taking fun and to my GREAT delight it has been received in exactly that way by everybody.

I know that certain members WERE going to vote for me and if they multi-voted to the tune of 100's of votes, then even though I would rather that did not happen, it is surely no different from other members or Judges voting for their friends or favourite members rather than the quality of song - something which most certainly DOES happen.

I just did not want any 'politics' or 'personality' problems spoiling this thread and this comp and I am more than genuinely willing to give this 'Win' up and be pleased to have MB have it because MB and Livia were my top 2.

If that satisfies you, Withano.


It seems the soap awards has had some dodgy votes tonight aswell Kirk:laugh: don't worry about it everyone did well and there can only be one winner and people chose you.

[kirklancaster]

Honestly, you deserved the win for "Ham Ass" alone

Thank you, MB - and you deserved to win or top 2 - in my opinion.

[Withano]

My only vote was in the public poll lol so didnt count for much, but (from my winner, to my 9th) I voted for Estonia, Bosnia, Italy, UK, Denmark, France, Norway, Australia & Portugal

[kirklancaster]

It seems the soap awards has had some dodgy votes tonight aswell Kirk:laugh: don't worry about it everyone did well and there can only be one winner and people chose you.

Thanks, Kaz. (It's great to finally win something on here)

[kirklancaster]

Over 800 public votes kirk, even you have to agree that there probably wasnt 800 voters haha. You have a vey good mate who fixed your win, and Livias 2nd, sorry.

The problem is - how do you know that 300 didn't vote for me? Where would that put the rankings?

[Shaun]

On the plus side, it gives us all plenty of material to use for Xmasvision :clap1:

*files a song copyright for "Before TiBB Cheats" by MisCarriage (of justice) Underwood*

[RileyH]

It seems the soap awards has had some dodgy votes tonight aswell Kirk:laugh:

This better not be Hollyoaks shade

[Underscore]

This better not be Hollyoaks shade

hollyoaks is ****

[Kazanne]

Thanks, Kaz. (It's great to finally win something on here)

This is why I never enter anything anymore Kirk,,you always get someone who is not happy,well done you.

[RileyH]

hollyoaks is ****

It's the only good one :shrug:

[Underscore]

This is why I never enter anything anymore Kirk,,you always get someone who is not happy,well done you.

I am sorry Kaz... you're going to have to take Harry from your sig... So distracting... :hehe:

[Kazanne]

This better not be Hollyoaks shade

Sorry RileyH ,I never watch it but know some aren't happy with the results:laugh:

[Underscore]

It's the only good one :shrug:

yeah and you watch ex on the beach... speaks volumes :hehe:

[Kazanne]

I am sorry Kaz... you're going to have to take Harry from your sig... So distracting... :hehe:

I can do that Underscore,BUT will have to replace it with another:hehe:

[Wizard.]

Shetty Spice by Jade Ghoodi ft. Shilpa Shetty and Jemma Vindalucy is coming for that crown this Christmas!

[Underscore]

Shetty Spice by Jade Ghoodi ft. Shilpa Shetty and Jemma Vindalucy is coming for that crown this Christmas!

not ofcom coming for your crown

[montblanc]

yeah and you watch ex on the beach... speaks volumes :hehe:

ex on the beach is a scream :nono:

[Underscore]

I can do that Underscore,BUT will have to replace it with another:hehe:

Oh stop :bawling::hehe:

[Underscore]

ex on the beach is a scream :nono:

yeah n you've only just watched riverdale

[RileyH]

Shetty Spice by Jade Ghoodi ft. Shilpa Shetty and Jemma Vindalucy is coming for that crown this Christmas!

A bop incoming?

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a5106dc137580e8218205001d19d8f03/tumblr_p5nydjEX1w1tddlqho3_400.gif

[montblanc]

yeah n you've only just watched riverdale

but i'm obsessed with ha now so

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a5106dc137580e8218205001d19d8f03/tumblr_p5nydjEX1w1tddlqho3_400.gif

[MB.]

Shetty Spice by Jade Ghoodi ft. Shilpa Shetty and Jemma Vindalucy is coming for that crown this Christmas!

But will it beat the time Ant replaced every instance of the word "work" in Rihanna's Work with "Dirk" , credited it to Shilpa Shetty and sent it in?

[Underscore]

but i'm obsessed with ha now so

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a5106dc137580e8218205001d19d8f03/tumblr_p5nydjEX1w1tddlqho3_400.gif

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/7e/42/b87e42523527a9de55b1a42085e901b0.gif

[Underscore]

But will it beat the time Ant replaced every instance of the word "work" in Rihanna's Work with "Dirk" , credited it to Shilpa Shetty and sent it in?

:joker:

[kirklancaster]

This is why I never enter anything anymore Kirk,,you always get someone who is not happy,well done you.

:laugh: I'm OK with it, Kaz - I had already told Lucas last week that I was leaving TIBB for good this time BEFORE all this. So I guess I won't be entering anything again either. :laugh:

[montblanc]

:laugh: I'm OK with it, Kaz - I had already told Lucas last week that I was leaving TIBB for good this time BEFORE all this. So I guess I won't be entering anything again either. :laugh:

:oh:

[Tom4784]

Mess, I think Riley's 9 Jury points all came from me?

[Cherie]

I didn't really understand the voting process, who picked the juries, they came as a surprise to me

[Tom4784]

Congrats, I definitely think that any method of voting that can be abused like the Public vote should have been disregarded. It skewed the results in a ridiculous way and it cheapened the placings even when they deserved high placements because it looked rigged.

[Tom4784]

I didn't really understand the voting process, who picked the juries, they came as a surprise to me

Juries were contestant's votes (the ones who weren't judging at least).

I didn't know you could vote more than once on the public vote, I just selected the same acts I voted for in the Jury vote.

[Josiah.]

If I am coming back as host in December (with Shaun taking hold of the voting), public voting is not coming back (not for a while).

[Cherie]

Juries were contestant's votes (the ones who weren't judging at least).

I didn't know you could vote more than once on the public vote, I just selected the same acts I voted for in the Jury vote.

Oh I see! thanks!

[Wizard.]

A bop incoming?

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a5106dc137580e8218205001d19d8f03/tumblr_p5nydjEX1w1tddlqho3_400.gif

yes with a rap verse from Paul Dananbread

[Wizard.]

Mess, I think Riley's 9 Jury points all came from me?

mess, you recognize talent :love:

[Vicky.]

I think you did great Josiah, you just seem too trusting though, when it should have been pretty obvious that if there is a way for people to right, they will do that, as some members are pretty pathetic and will ruin it for everyone else like that.

[Black Dagger]

Trust the first one I perform in to be tainted.

I'm Morroco. I'm withdrawing forever. (But I will continue on fhe judging panel)

[MB.]

Truthfully though, Lucas, you were my 12 points, and I still piss myself when I think of you singing "doo doo doo doo" while holding a picture of Mary Berry over your face (what can I say, I'm a man of simple pleasures)

[TwentyOneThrones]

Congrats Kirk. You had my 12 :)

[Ross.]

Yeah sorry Josiah but I'm taking this back over for Xmasvision. Nothing against the way you've hosted the game, I'm more than happy to keep you as a video designer and everything, but you are sadly too naive and trusting of this site :laugh:



I love Dermot O'Leary taking back X Factor

[Ross.]

Congrats Kirk :love:

[Denver]

Still cant believe i made top 4 think now is time to retire

[Ant.]

I've not viewed this year but well done Kirk and everyone else :love:

although can someone tell me how the voting system worked :laugh2:

[RileyH]

I love Dermot O'Leary taking back X Factor

:laugh2:

[Ashley.]

Well done, Kirk. :love:

It's a shame really, about the results. I should have warned you, Josiah, after just having dealt with the same sort of thing. Still, take what you can from it. xx

[Ross.]

I've not viewed this year but well done Kirk and everyone else :love:

although can someone tell me how the voting system worked :laugh2:

.

I missed this so I have no idea how it worked someone help us!

[T*]

I was going to read back but should I even bother?

[Mokka]

Well done, Kirk. :love:

It's a shame really, about the results. I should have warned you, Josiah, after just having dealt with the same sort of thing. Still, take what you can from it. xx

Ooo... Most Loved intrigue ? :think:

Congrats Kirk... maybe the hubub over your win will finally out shadow that of mine lol

I didn't vote as I was out of town for a 10K run... I have witnesses lol... so I'm innocent !

[T*]

.

I missed this so I have no idea how it worked someone help us!

Public Vote in which people could vote as many times as you want and also vote for yourself ended in obvious disaster bc it looks as if people voted for themselves (its clear to see who did lol)

You should’ve won either way Kirk so congrats anyway!

[Shaun]

To be fair - as I have stipulated with Josiah - it's also entirely possible that someone else tampered with the votes to try and frame those who've benefitted from them. There shouldn't be any public accusations. I have a pretty clear idea of who I think is behind it but even discounting the obvious 300+ votes nonsense, there will have been people who thought "hmm, I'll vote 3 or 4 times" and that's just as bad and unfair, really. I don't see any need for a poll in an event like this when so much effort's been put into the entries themselves, it seems only fair that a little bit of effort should go into the voting too.

I've mentioned to Josiah that I'll "reclaim the game" but only in a few aspects.

- I'll post the thread and announce it when we've agreed on a start date.
- I'll collect all of the votes (via PM, and also count the judges' scores)
- I'll collect the entries as they are submitted by participating members

Otherwise, Josiah will do pretty much exactly what he did the night before last, because he did an excellent job with it and was a good host. So Josiah will still:

- Host the event with his (now customary) videos and opening titles, etc.
- Design whatever he likes for the event (such as those song-information banners for the voting)
- Reveal the results (the only difference here is that I will know them this time :laugh:)
- Have a Wikia for the event as he has done for...gosh...I don't know actually. 5 years maybe?

The only thing that I think needs to be decided on is the final scoring system. I think having the judges' scores counting for double (ie. instead of 17pts, 16pts, 15pts, it was 34pts, 32pts, 30pts... this time around) may be a little bit unfairly balanced in favour of the judges, and leave us open to scrutiny and accusations of bias/nepotism. I will have a tinker with the judges as usual because it's healthy to keep the panel a little bit different each time, but I think I'm pretty fair in hiring them because I go for people who either:

- Know the game well and know what makes a "good song"
- Have a moderator status and therefore a little bit of authority / are inherently impartial
- Represent a section of the forum that is otherwise not too closely affiliated with the majority of the song subjects (ie. as always, most songs are about chat-and-games in-jokes, or mods/bans, and can read as gobbledegook to non-posters of that area)
- Are just generally pretty fair and mature and can look at the game objectively as a celebration of creativity, effort and humour/musical prowess.

So I think keeping the "Jury vote" the same is fine (ie. all participants can vote with 12pts, 10pts, 8pts, 7pts, 6pts, 5pts, 4pts, 3pts, 2pts and 1pt for their ten favourite songs in order, but not for themselves) and any non-participating member can vote in the exact same format. Judges of course have to rank themselves somewhere otherwise are at a disadvantage - and I don't think any judge put themselves higher than 4th this time around? I put myself 8th. Midway is usually fine although I'm happy with this shady area being replaced by a "each judge gets [10pts]* and then takes themselves out of the ranking" scenario.
*[10pts] here would be a middle-mark for a Eurovision that has 20 songs submitted, so bang in the middle.

With 10 judges I think having singular points helps both keep the results closer/less predictable, and prevents us from having too strong of an influence on the final results. For example, if you removed the judges and left it to the players this time around it would've resulted in:

1) Shaun
2) LukeB
3) MB

Add in the judges and LukeB and I disappear from the top 3 entirely :laugh:

I think, finally, and sorry I know this is going to be a long post but I want to address everything, making sure the voting remains open for a lot longer is also imperative and saves us from the stress of trying to get 20+ votes in under 24 hours. So I am toying with the idea of having Josiah host the live show on, say, a Friday, and then having the results show on the following Monday. That gives everyone the whole weekend to catch up, read everything thoroughly and not just skim-read quickly to get a vote in, and also gives us more time to prepare the results :p Like I say, this is just an idea and all of these things I've suggested are just ideas I'm happy to discuss with regular players in here.

[Josiah.]

Good thinking Shaun.

[Black Dagger]

Truthfully though, Lucas, you were my 12 points, and I still piss myself when I think of you singing "doo doo doo doo" while holding a picture of Mary Berry over your face (what can I say, I'm a man of simple pleasures)

I love you!

[Wizard.]

Great suggestions Shaun :clap1:

[Nicky91]

another last place for me :facepalm: :joker:

[Nicky91]

here were my votes

12) Portugal
10) Latvia
8) Norway
7) Israel
6) Vatican City
5) Lebanon
4) Denmark
3) United Kingdom
2) Croatia
1) Iceland

[AnnieK]

Congrats all who took part, all the songs were amazing. Forget the voting controversy, the effort involved from all was brilliant. Congrats Kirk on winning, well deserved :love:

[Nicky91]

i will take part in next edition, which is xmasvision

[chuff me dizzy]

Well done Kirk and Livia, both very deserved :clap1::clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

1st: https://i.imgur.com/CRAhC90.png
Greece - 1,141 pts. (228 - Judges, 40 - Juries, 873 - Public)
2nd: https://i.imgur.com/6Yje9jq.png
Israel - 1,113 pts. (194 - Judges, 29 - Juries, 890 - Public)
3rd: https://i.imgur.com/SGDpptm.png
United Kingdom - 560 pts. (212 - Judges, 9 - Juries , 339 - Public)
4th: https://i.imgur.com/MnqWN6V.png
Lebanon - 506 pts. (102 - Judges, 14 - Juries, 390 - Public)
5th: https://i.imgur.com/Kw9yW4q.png
Australia - 438 pts. (228 - Judges, 12 - Juries, 198 - Public)
6th: https://i.imgur.com/yOa1nrl.png
Estonia - 399 pts. (276 - Judges, 43 - Juries, 80 - Public)
7th: https://i.imgur.com/it0XlYt.png
Bosnia & Herzegovina - 363 pts. (264 - Judges, 39 - Juries, 60 - Public)
8th: https://i.imgur.com/3Uso6WM.png
Iceland - 323 pts. (164 - Judges, 38 - Juries, 121 - Public)
9th: https://i.imgur.com/BZ05cIJ.png
Norway - 318 pts. (214 - Judges, 52 - Juries, 52 - Public)
10th: https://i.imgur.com/lNdyYMK.png
Denmark - 318 pts. (250 - Judges, 28 - Juries, 40 - Public)
11th: https://i.imgur.com/NA4zOIA.png
Vatican City - 270 pts. (64 - Judges, 15 - Juries, 191 - Public)
12th: https://i.imgur.com/caKgrDP.png
Portugal - 264 pts. (184 - Judges, 48 - Juries, 32 - Public)
13th: https://i.imgur.com/EzlEyKg.png
Latvia - 248 pts. (146 - Judges, 33 - Juries, 69 - Public)
14th: https://i.imgur.com/tPa3JXv.png
Italy - 247 pts. (178 - Judges, 6 - Juries, 63 - Public)
15th: https://i.imgur.com/y3bva8v.png
France - 233 pts. (154 - Judges, 13 - Juries, 63 - Public)
16th: https://i.imgur.com/P5XIPJ6.png
Croatia - 176 pts. (110 - Judges, 31 - Juries, 35 - Public)
17th: https://i.imgur.com/oYot7MP.png
Czech Republic - 108 pts. (70 - Judges, 1 - Juries, 37 - Public)



BTW, I am completely disregarding the Juries in December, because the low scoring and the riggery for Livia is too off.

Well Done Livia and Victor Kirk for your famous win and silver position. Looks like I voted for the right songs

:clap1::clap1:


and bit surprised at the unsporting fumes in this "game"

:shocked:

[Cherie]

To be fair - as I have stipulated with Josiah - it's also entirely possible that someone else tampered with the votes to try and frame those who've benefitted from them. There shouldn't be any public accusations. I have a pretty clear idea of who I think is behind it but even discounting the obvious 300+ votes nonsense, there will have been people who thought "hmm, I'll vote 3 or 4 times" and that's just as bad and unfair, really. I don't see any need for a poll in an event like this when so much effort's been put into the entries themselves, it seems only fair that a little bit of effort should go into the voting too.

I've mentioned to Josiah that I'll "reclaim the game" but only in a few aspects.

- I'll post the thread and announce it when we've agreed on a start date.
- I'll collect all of the votes (via PM, and also count the judges' scores)
- I'll collect the entries as they are submitted by participating members

Otherwise, Josiah will do pretty much exactly what he did the night before last, because he did an excellent job with it and was a good host. So Josiah will still:

- Host the event with his (now customary) videos and opening titles, etc.
- Design whatever he likes for the event (such as those song-information banners for the voting)
- Reveal the results (the only difference here is that I will know them this time :laugh:)
- Have a Wikia for the event as he has done for...gosh...I don't know actually. 5 years maybe?

The only thing that I think needs to be decided on is the final scoring system. I think having the judges' scores counting for double (ie. instead of 17pts, 16pts, 15pts, it was 34pts, 32pts, 30pts... this time around) may be a little bit unfairly balanced in favour of the judges, and leave us open to scrutiny and accusations of bias/nepotism. I will have a tinker with the judges as usual because it's healthy to keep the panel a little bit different each time, but I think I'm pretty fair in hiring them because I go for people who either:

- Know the game well and know what makes a "good song"
- Have a moderator status and therefore a little bit of authority / are inherently impartial
- Represent a section of the forum that is otherwise not too closely affiliated with the majority of the song subjects (ie. as always, most songs are about chat-and-games in-jokes, or mods/bans, and can read as gobbledegook to non-posters of that area)
- Are just generally pretty fair and mature and can look at the game objectively as a celebration of creativity, effort and humour/musical prowess.

So I think keeping the "Jury vote" the same is fine (ie. all participants can vote with 12pts, 10pts, 8pts, 7pts, 6pts, 5pts, 4pts, 3pts, 2pts and 1pt for their ten favourite songs in order, but not for themselves) and any non-participating member can vote in the exact same format. Judges of course have to rank themselves somewhere otherwise are at a disadvantage - and I don't think any judge put themselves higher than 4th this time around? I put myself 8th. Midway is usually fine although I'm happy with this shady area being replaced by a "each judge gets [10pts]* and then takes themselves out of the ranking" scenario.
*[10pts] here would be a middle-mark for a Eurovision that has 20 songs submitted, so bang in the middle.

With 10 judges I think having singular points helps both keep the results closer/less predictable, and prevents us from having too strong of an influence on the final results. For example, if you removed the judges and left it to the players this time around it would've resulted in:

1) Shaun
2) LukeB
3) MB

Add in the judges and LukeB and I disappear from the top 3 entirely :laugh:

I think, finally, and sorry I know this is going to be a long post but I want to address everything, making sure the voting remains open for a lot longer is also imperative and saves us from the stress of trying to get 20+ votes in under 24 hours. So I am toying with the idea of having Josiah host the live show on, say, a Friday, and then having the results show on the following Monday. That gives everyone the whole weekend to catch up, read everything thoroughly and not just skim-read quickly to get a vote in, and also gives us more time to prepare the results :p Like I say, this is just an idea and all of these things I've suggested are just ideas I'm happy to discuss with regular players in here.

Is it though, if it was an open vote where you could vote multiple times, just like it is at Eurovision and every other reality show then what is this issue, there wasn't a one vote per person rule so i don't really see the issue.

It's just a fun game at the end of the day, the right song won as everyone agrees and it will be memorable and as you say give people inspiration for the next one

[Crimson Dynamo]

best song won so no issues

end of

[jet]

best song won so no issues

end of

Congrats Kirk, your song deserved the No. 1 spot, it was brilliant. End of, indeed.

[Nicky91]

best song won so no issues

end of

:nono:


Luke had a good song for Portugal, Lucas did a amazing last minute song writing job for Latvia

and Dezzy has written a iconic song now as well



so the best song didn't win

[Black Dagger]

It wasn't amazing or written lol.

I said anal for 30 seconds. I'm not going to pretend my entry was a masterpiece. I wanted to do more with it but the deadline caught me off guard.

[Nicky91]

It wasn't amazing or written lol.

I said anal for 30 seconds. I'm not going to pretend my entry was a masterpiece. I wanted to do more with it but the deadline caught me off guard.

like Rona Nishliu singing the same lyric over and over in real eurovision for 3 minutes ;)

[Crimson Dynamo]

:nono:


Luke had a good song for Portugal, Lucas did a amazing last minute song writing job for Latvia

and Dezzy has written a iconic song now as well



so the best song didn't win

Kirk won, it was voted best song - FACT

dont be a sore loser as your song as the worst

[Nicky91]

Kirk won, it was voted best song - FACT

dont be a sore loser as your song as the worst

i don't care if my song is the worst or not, i just do some experimenting now


maybe i need to go for something more dance boppy rather than a ballad fused with a rap


i liked Kirk's song, but others had impressed me more for my points and votes

just a matter of taste for me, i didn't want my friendship with Kirk to be a reason for my points

[Crimson Dynamo]

i don't care if my song is the worst or not, i just do some experimenting now


maybe i need to go for something more dance boppy rather than a ballad fused with a rap


i liked Kirk's song, but others had impressed me more for my points and votes

just a matter of taste for me, i didn't want my friendship with Kirk to be a reason for my points
Well we wont really believe who you voted for as you lied when pressed the last time

[Nicky91]

Well we wont really believe who you voted for as you lied when pressed the last time

:oh: :rolleyes:


so you didn't like my homage to Adele, in my song

[MB.]

and bit surprised at the unsporting fumes in this "game"

:shocked:

None of us are begrudging Kirk, Livia or anyone else's success, especially since everyone (well, maybe not Nicky) seems to agree with you that Kirk is the rightful winner regardless of how the voting went, and our only wish is that the game hadn't been sabotaged in order to achieve those results. So if you're trying to cause drama then kindly jog on!

[Nicky91]

None of us are begrudging Kirk, Livia or anyone else's success, especially since everyone (well, maybe not Nicky) seems to agree with you that Kirk is the rightful winner regardless of how the voting went, and our only wish is that the game hadn't been sabotaged in order to achieve those results. So if you're trying to cause drama then kindly jog on!

even if i get last place couple more times i don't care, i just show you guys my take on how i write songs


so to the people who had given me points and had voted for me, i say thank you i appreciate it, a shame it wasn't enough


next time i definitely am gonna team up with few of my eurovision friends on discord writing my song for xmasvision

[MB.]

even if i get last place couple more times i don't care, i just show you guys my take on how i write songs


so to the people who had given me points and had voted for me, i say thank you i appreciate it, a shame it wasn't enough


next time i definitely am gonna team up with few of my eurovision friends on discord writing my song for xmasvision

I enjoyed your entry as always, Nicky! I couldn't understand a good half of it, but I enjoyed it :laugh:

[Nicky91]

I enjoyed your entry as always, Nicky! I couldn't understand a good half of it, but I enjoyed it :laugh:

czech and macedonian lyrics were basically the hello lyrics from the adele song


i took a risk, and with taking risks you can either flop or do extremely well, and i flopped but i don't care

at least i was standing out with my entry, only one besides Josiah to use a other language than english :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

None of us are begrudging Kirk, Livia or anyone else's success, especially since everyone (well, maybe not Nicky) seems to agree with you that Kirk is the rightful winner regardless of how the voting went, and our only wish is that the game hadn't been sabotaged in order to achieve those results. So if you're trying to cause drama then kindly jog on!

No, sure..

but lets just change the whole voting system next time and the person running so that the right person wins..


:laugh2:

[Kazanne]

It wasn't amazing or written lol.

I said anal for 30 seconds. I'm not going to pretend my entry was a masterpiece. I wanted to do more with it but the deadline caught me off guard.

Lucas ,don't underestimate yourself,yours would have been at least top 3 for me.