Harry and Meghan - Official Discussion Thread

[Josy]

This is the official thread for any discussion/news or articles about Prince Harry and/or Meghan.

Please respect other members at ALL times and post within the forum rules.

If you have nothing to add to the discussion then just don't post in here.

Thanks.

[jet]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9429839/Meghan-Markle-appeared-lead-normal-life-time-royal-biographer-claims.html

Princess Diana's biographer Andrew Morton claims that Meghan Markle led a 'normal life' during her time as a royal and was seen 'out and about with friends at restaurants', despite telling Oprah she didn't leave the house

By CHLOE MORGAN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 11:27, 2 April 2021 | UPDATED: 17:04, 3 April 2021

Meghan Markle appeared to lead a 'normal life' during her time as a royal - despite the bombshell revelations she made during the tell-all Oprah Winfrey interview, Princess Diana's biographer claimed.
Andrew Morton, who famously penned Princess Diana's blockbuster biography in 1992, claimed friends told him they saw the Duchess of Sussex, 39, out and about with friends during her time in the Royal Family.

In the extraordinary interview watched by tens of millions of people around the world, Meghan claimed she only left the house twice in four months when she was living at the palace and alleged that officials took her 'passport, my driving licence, my keys.'.....

'But then again, well, friends of mine said they've seen Meghan walking from Whole Foods supermarket on Kensington High Street with bags of foods back to Kensington Palace.
He continued: 'It didn't seem too much like a prison. Other friends have seen her out and about with friends at restaurants, so she seems, to me, to have led a normal life.'
..............
More lies exposed....she made it sound to Oprah as if she was being held against her will and practically a prisoner. All to gain sympathy to bolster support for her poor victim status and make the royals look bad once again. What a devious schemer she is.

[bots]

the D: add a certain drama thats hard to ignore :laugh:

[hijaxers]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9429839/Meghan-Markle-appeared-lead-normal-life-time-royal-biographer-claims.html

Princess Diana's biographer Andrew Morton claims that Meghan Markle led a 'normal life' during her time as a royal and was seen 'out and about with friends at restaurants', despite telling Oprah she didn't leave the house

By CHLOE MORGAN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 11:27, 2 April 2021 | UPDATED: 17:04, 3 April 2021

Meghan Markle appeared to lead a 'normal life' during her time as a royal - despite the bombshell revelations she made during the tell-all Oprah Winfrey interview, Princess Diana's biographer claimed.
Andrew Morton, who famously penned Princess Diana's blockbuster biography in 1992, claimed friends told him they saw the Duchess of Sussex, 39, out and about with friends during her time in the Royal Family.

In the extraordinary interview watched by tens of millions of people around the world, Meghan claimed she only left the house twice in four months when she was living at the palace and alleged that officials took her 'passport, my driving licence, my keys.'.....

'But then again, well, friends of mine said they've seen Meghan walking from Whole Foods supermarket on Kensington High Street with bags of foods back to Kensington Palace.
He continued: 'It didn't seem too much like a prison. Other friends have seen her out and about with friends at restaurants, so she seems, to me, to have led a normal life.'
..............
More lies exposed....she made it sound to Oprah as if she was being held against her will and practically a prisoner. All to gain sympathy to bolster support for her poor victim status and make the royals look bad once again. What a devious schemer she is.

Well no chance of Oprah inviting her back to explain the fact that 'her truth' is in fact complete bullshyte.

[arista]

[Prince Harry and Meghan Markle
'told royal advisors "you can't stop us doing what we want"
and were "calling the shots" before Megxit
as they 'held talks with streaming platform Quibi']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9432645/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-told-royal-advisors-stop-doing-want.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/royal-family/2021/04/02/010421-RM_HARRY_MEGHAN_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqqk2ROpugF3c1ETx1 Pmz9fH-vSLtd7X2T7a1XCgvtY7w.jpeg?imwidth=560

[Jordan.]

How fun another person taking her feeling of being trapped to meaning she must have been shackled to the palace walls. Any other vicious lies been exposed recently or just more retreading of the same nonsense?

[Cherie]

It's clear to me now anyway that they always intended to move away but needed a Royal Wedding for the Titles which which opened doors for them.

I have no problem with them moving away and the reasons they did it, but a bit of honesty wouldn't go amiss would it

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think now the case against them is complete. The sham interview was a pack of well-rehearsed lies and now they have made their beds they now have to lie in them. I hope they are proud that a man lost his job over this debacle. disgraceful.

[arista]

How fun another person taking her feeling of being trapped to meaning she must have been shackled to the palace walls. Any other vicious lies being exposed recently or just more retreading of the same nonsense?


To be fair its not total nonsense.


If only Meghan
was able to take some criticism

[hijaxers]

To be fair its not total nonsense.


If only Meghan
was able to take some criticism

Thats pretty impossible when you think you are perfect and everyone else is at fault.

[Jordan.]

I think now the case against them is complete. The sham interview was a pack of well-rehearsed lies and now they have made their beds they now have to lie in them. I hope they are proud that a man lost his job over this debacle. disgraceful.

If you're talking about Piers he doesn't seem to be that affected by it? He manged to sell a tonne of his book to the gullible public who are the real losers in all of this.

[arista]

If you're talking about Piers he doesn't seem to be that affected by it? He manged to sell a tonne of his book to the gullible public who are the real losers in all of this.

Not having Piers on GMBHD itv
is shocking
they must find someone new to take his place.

As that Lightweight Ben
is no good.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If you're talking about Piers he doesn't seem to be that affected by it? He manged to sell a tonne of his book to the gullible public who are the real losers in all of this.I think calling thousands of random people from all walks of life gullible is a little rich

Bearing in mind the only really defence we have seen for megan is ," you don't know her"

[jet]

It's clear to me now anyway that they always intended to move away but needed a Royal Wedding for the Titles which which opened doors for them.

I have no problem with them moving away and the reasons they did it, but a bit of honesty wouldn't go amiss would it

Yes, why not just say from the start that they were going to live in LA after marriage, have it all above board and just go? Who would have cared? It's all the lies and deception and throwing blame around and playing the victim card over and over that is disgraceful.

[rusticgal]

How fun another person taking her feeling of being trapped to meaning she must have been shackled to the palace walls. Any other vicious lies been exposed recently or just more retreading of the same nonsense?


She didn’t mention Shackles but she did paint a picture of being held prisoner :laugh:

[Jordan.]

Yes, why not just say from the start that they were going to live in LA after marriage, have it all above board and just go? Who would have cared? It's all the lies and deception and throwing blame around and playing the victim card over and over that is disgraceful.

Wasn't you telling us Harry had his heart set on Africa? now you are sure he had LA planned from the start. You don't seem very conclusive on the matter yourself. Whatever boot fits today I guess.

[jet]

Wasn't you telling us Harry had his heart set on Africa? now you are sure he had LA planned from the start. You don't seem very conclusive on the matter yourself. Whatever boot fits today I guess.

He always wanted to settle in Africa and the Queen even offered him and Meghan a Commonwealth post there, but Meghan was obviously set on the glitz and glam and celeb lifestyle of LA and turned it down and Harry fell in line. As he said himself "what Meghan wants, Meghan gets".

[jet]

I'd go further and suspect she played the victim card with Harry too to get him to do what she wanted.

[user104658]

I would like to opt out please.

[GoldHeart]

Wasn't you telling us Harry had his heart set on Africa? now you are sure he had LA planned from the start. You don't seem very conclusive on the matter yourself. Whatever boot fits today I guess.

Tomorrow we'll get told Australia or something

[joeysteele]

I would like to opt out please.

Snap for me there too TS.

I think my position is clear from other threads, I for sure know others position too.
There comes a point where there's no such thing as real debate and it's just going round in circles.

I still see nothing of any magnitude to character assassinate Meghan Markle for.
That's my view and position which isn't going to be changed.
So I'm bowing out of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex threads now.
I've said all I need to anyway.

Although I have to partly agree with arista above, not to have Piers Morgan on morning TV again.
However he's right on Ben Shepherd, they need someone different to him on the show definitely, after just waking he near enough sends me back to sleep.

Again as on all other threads, I just wish Prince Harry and his wife Meghan well and success in all they do.
I'm not that interested in them to scrutinise every word or thing they do but I hope all continues to work out for them and their children.

[arista]

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[arista]

[Piers Morgan reveals he's had messages from
the Royal Family expressing
'gratitude someone was standing up for them'
in the aftermath of Harry and Meghan's bombshell Oprah interview

Morgan made the admission in an interview
with Extra's Billy Bush that is set to air Tuesday night
The former British breakfast TV host said
the messages from the Royal Family
expressed 'gratitude someone was standing up for them'
Morgan left his TV show, Good Morning Britain,
back on March 9 over his on-air comments
about Meghan Markle in the wake
of the Oprah interview
He had said that he didn't believe
a word of Markle's interview and slammed
her for insinuating that the Royal Family was racist]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9442487/Piers-Morgan-says-hes-messages-Royal-Family.html



Piers stop going on USA Shows
go on SkyNewsHD
and sad BBCnewsHD.

[Josy]

Peirs is coming across as a really obsessed creepy old man with his Meghan infatuation tbh

[thesheriff443]

Peirs is coming across as a really obsessed creepy old man with his Meghan infatuation tbh

I have to disagree
He called them out for the lies they told and their version of the truth and it cost him his job.

Im not obsessed with Harry and Meghan and every one is entitled to live their life the way they want to but it’s blatantly obvious that this pair have created a story line to suit their needs.

[Glenn.]

Peirs is coming across as a really obsessed creepy old man with his Meghan infatuation tbh

Agreed

[bots]

if the royals actually did thank piers for defending them (which i think is highly unlikely) isn't he showing disrespect and breaking trust with the royal family in making it public? In fact behaving the same as he was criticizing Harry and Meghan for :laugh:

[Glenn.]

if the royals actually did thank piers for defending them (which i think is highly unlikely) isn't he showing disrespect and a breaking trust with the royal family in making it public? In fact behaving the same as he was criticizing Harry and Meghan for :laugh:

He’s allowed to though because he’s bashing Meghan some more. Her haters will applaud him for doing so.

[Josy]

I have to disagree
He called them out for the lies they told and their version of the truth and it cost him his job.

Im not obsessed with Harry and Meghan and every one is entitled to live their life the way they want to but it’s blatantly obvious that this pair have created a story line to suit their needs.He has been full on obsessing over Meghan since she brushed him off a long time before any TV interviews and such, when it reaches a level that he can't control himself enough that it costs him his job that's a bad sign.

Creepy old guy that can't handle the fact she blew him out so tries everything he can as well as using his fan base to bash her and make her out to be a bad person.

[arista]

Peirs is coming across as a really obsessed creepy old man with his Meghan infatuation tbh



Yes he does a bit,
but appears to have millions following him.

[arista]

I have to disagree
He called them out for the lies they told and their version of the truth and it cost him his job.

Im not obsessed with Harry and Meghan and every one is entitled to live their life the way they want to but it’s blatantly obvious that this pair have created a story line to suit their needs.



Yes if only he did not call her a Lie
if he said "she misspoke"
He could still be on GMBHD itv.

Then the Woke Gang
would not attack him,
as much.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He has been full on obsessing over Meghan since she brushed him off a long time before any TV interviews and such, when it reaches a level that he can't control himself enough that it costs him his job that's a bad sign.

Creepy old guy that can't handle the fact she blew him out so tries everything he can as well as using his fan base to bash her and make her out to be a bad person.

that is a false narrative

his job was to report news his producers told him to each morning

he was a news anchor on GMB

you may as well say he was obsessed with coronavirus, antisemitism, Boris Johnston and Donald Trump

He talked a lot about Markle because that is what his audience wanted

that is why he hit record viewing figures

[arista]

"that is why he hit record viewing figures"

Yes the week before over taking sad BBC1 AM

[Oliver_tomlins4]

that is a false narrative

his job was to report news his producers told him to each morning

he was a news anchor on GMB

you may as well say he was obsessed with coronavirus, antisemitism, Boris Johnston and Donald Trump

He talked a lot about Markle because that is what his audience wanted

that is why he hit record viewing figures

He should thank Meghan for all the publicity she has given him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/hkY5AZcwJbBJ0Foft3_h6w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-images/2019-12/0fd105d0-233f-11ea-bf73-57c15a150fa4

Piers Morgan, DailyMail.com's Editor-at-Large and successful and popular TV Anchor, has revealed that he had messages on
behalf of members of the Royal Family expressing 'gratitude someone was standing up for
them' in the wake of Harry and Meghan's Oprah Winfrey interview. Morgan made the
admission in an interview with Extra's Billy Bush, which is set to air Tuesday night, when
he was asked if anyone from the Royal Family had reached out following the couple's
sham interview last month.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9442487/Piers-Morgan-says-hes-messages-Royal-Family.html

top comment: Im not surprised he's had messages of support from the Royal Family. I
think an awful lot of the British public are pleased he's raised questions about the
Markles interview and Oprah's acceptance of their claims. They weren't challenged on
anything - it was a terribly one sided view.

[arista]

Yes Very Nice of them
to thank him.

[Oliver_tomlins4]

So that whole “Harry, Meghan and Archie are much loved members of our family” was a load of garbage then. Interesting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So that whole “Harry, Meghan and Archie are much loved members of our family” was a load of garbage then. Interesting.
I dont think Piers was insinuating it was "Her Madge" that whatsapped him

:laugh:

[user104658]

I dont think Piers was insinuating it was "Her Madge" that whatsapped him

:laugh:

http://dianalegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Princess-Michael-of-Kent-was-pictured-wearing-the-brooch-after-attending-the-Queens-annual-Christmas-banquet-at-Buckingham-Palace-Photo-C-GETTY-IMAGeS.jpg

[OLLIE97]

I dont think Piers was insinuating it was "Her Madge" that whatsapped him

:laugh:

The statement spoke about the "whole family" it wasn't just on behalf of the queen.

[user104658]

So that whole “Harry, Meghan and Archie are much loved members of our family” was a load of garbage then. Interesting.

The statement spoke about the "whole family" it wasn't just on behalf of the queen.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohuAAAIvICvEs4Psc/giphy.gif

[AnnieK]

Didn't Piers say Harry and Meghan should name the person who made the comment about their children's skin tone? If so he should name who has thanked him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The statement spoke about the "whole family" it wasn't just on behalf of the queen.

it was said by the Queen

:spin:

and noone has said anything different

only you in your previous post

[Crimson Dynamo]

Didn't Piers say Harry and Meghan should name the person who made the comment about their children's skin tone? If so he should name who has thanked him.

i think accusing someone of being a racist

and sending thanks

are 2 very separate things

:laugh:

[Josy]

that is a false narrative



his job was to report news his producers told him to each morning



he was a news anchor on GMB



you may as well say he was obsessed with coronavirus, antisemitism, Boris Johnston and Donald Trump



He talked a lot about Markle because that is what his audience wanted



that is why he hit record viewing figuresHe's still obsessed and it's getting worse lol

It's not his job now so what's the excuse this time?

[Crimson Dynamo]

He's still obsessed and it's getting worse lol

It's not his job now so what's the excuse this time?

He was being interviewed on USA TV and was asked a question :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jezza drags Meghan Markle in his new TV show re the Oprah "interview"

https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article20320825.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Jeremy-Clarkson-mocks-Meghan-Markle-on-his-new-ITV-show-and-says-Piers-Morgan-had-a-point.jpg

Jeremy Clarkson poked fun at Meghan Markle's explosive interview with
Oprah Winfrey on his new ITV show.

The former Top Gear host mocked the Duchess of Sussex on his Saturday
night show It's Clarkson on TV and joked that Piers Morgan 'had a point.'


Clarkson on TV saw the 60-year-old 'unpick popular TV events' and he
couldn't resist referencing the famous interview which was watched by more
than 11 million people in the UK.

Minutes into his new show Jeremy said: "There was a moment where Meghan
Markle seemed to - how can I put this politely - break wind."

Assisted by canned laughter, the show ran a clip of Meghan discussing a time
after her wedding to Prince Harry and Oprah responding.


The Duchess of Sussex during her interview with Oprah Winfrey
"Sorry can we just hear that again because it really does sound like Piers
Morgan had a point, her pants really were on fire," Jeremy continued.

There was more canned laughter as he added: "Now I’ve had a note here
from the legal department at ITV. They want it to be made plain that that
was not a fart, I have no idea how they know that.

"But they want me to make it clear that the fart noise probably came out of
Oprah’s mouth."

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/jeremy-clarkson-mocks-meghan-markle-20320489

[jet]

that is a false narrative

his job was to report news his producers told him to each morning

he was a news anchor on GMB

you may as well say he was obsessed with coronavirus, antisemitism, Boris Johnston and Donald Trump

He talked a lot about Markle because that is what his audience wanted

that is why he hit record viewing figures

Well, exactly….and he is entitled to go on calling her out because he disgracefully lost the job he was paid to do because he said he didn’t believe her. Imagine not being entitled to an opinion any more, depending on who you are, that someone else like Markle is entitled to free speech (even though there is obviously lies in there) but your entitlement to that same free speech gets you fired and death threats made against your loved ones. That is what this ‘cancel culture’ has come to. When Morgan was calling out Trump for his fake news (lies) they same people loved it. Or Boris for his failings. Fairness and consistency has given way to dishonesty and gross hypocrisy all round in some quarters.

[Marsh.]

that is a false narrative

his job was to report news his producers told him to each morning


False.

He whined about them every morning. Way more than “report” news concerning them.

[Marsh.]

Well, exactly….and he is entitled to go on calling her out because he disgracefully lost the job he was paid to do because he said he didn’t believe her. Imagine not being entitled to an opinion any more, depending on who you are, that someone else like Markle is entitled to free speech (even though there is obviously lies in there) but your entitlement to that same free speech gets you fired and death threats made against your loved ones. That is what this ‘cancel culture’ has come to. When Morgan was calling out Trump for his fake news (lies) they same people loved it. Or Boris for his failings. Fairness and consistency has given way to dishonesty and gross hypocrisy all round in some quarters.

Someone’s mental health is not for other people to have an “opinion” on. Not least for other people to use as a stick to beat them with under the pretence of “opinion”.

Calling world leaders out on their words and actions that affect the world is not a like for like comparison. Laughable to try to compare.

[jet]

He's still obsessed and it's getting worse lol

It's not his job now so what's the excuse this time?

She got him fired from his job...by personally contacting his executive producer, that's his excuse, and a pretty damn good one too, because it was a disgrace.....and its no laughing matter that that can happen these days for nothing other than saying you don't believe someone who you, well - simply don't believe.

[LukeB]

Well, exactly….and he is entitled to go on calling her out because he disgracefully lost the job he was paid to do because he said he didn’t believe her. Imagine not being entitled to an opinion any more, depending on who you are, that someone else like Markle is entitled to free speech (even though there is obviously lies in there) but your entitlement to that same free speech gets you fired and death threats made against your loved ones. That is what this ‘cancel culture’ has come to. When Morgan was calling out Trump for his fake news (lies) they same people loved it. Or Boris for his failings. Fairness and consistency has given way to dishonesty and gross hypocrisy all round in some quarters.

Or he was fired because what he said was vile and disgusting? it wasn't about all of her "lies" it was about the mental health. You may be ignorant about mental health but those who complained are not. ITV has a advert about speaking up about mental health and a ITV employee has said some damaging things about it (this is his second time now) ITV can't speak about mental health and then pay someone who made awful and ignorant comments.

[Jordan.]

She got him fired from his job...by personally contacting his executive producer, that's his excuse, and a pretty damn good one too, because it was a disgrace.....and its no laughing matter that that can happen these days for nothing other than saying you don't believe someone who you, well - simply don't believe.

he got himself sacked for acting completely irresponsible on live TV, Meghan just helped :hee:

[Glenn.]

She got him fired from his job...by personally contacting his executive producer, that's his excuse, and a pretty damn good one too, because it was a disgrace.....and its no laughing matter that that can happen these days for nothing other than saying you don't believe someone who you, well - simply don't believe.

He got himself fired for disgusting comments on mental health that aired live and on a broadcaster who are championing mental health awareness. But yes, blame Meghan :umm2:

[jet]

Or he was fired because what he said was vile and disgusting? it wasn't about all of her "lies" it was about the mental health. You may be ignorant about mental health but those who complained are not. ITV has a advert about speaking up about mental health and a ITV employee has said some damaging things about it (this is his second time now) ITV can't speak about mental health and then pay someone who made awful and ignorant comments.

Morgan made in clear he was referring to her being refused help from the Royals, which is frankly not in the least believable, not that he disbelieved she suffered mental health problems....why is that overlooked?
Is her own husband Harry vile and disgusting for being ashamed to ask for help for her and ignoring her problems even though he had many resources at his disposal? I haven't heard anyone say so. Has he been 'cancelled' yet?

[user104658]

Well, exactly….and he is entitled to go on calling her out because he disgracefully lost the job he was paid to do because he said he didn’t believe her. Imagine not being entitled to an opinion any more, depending on who you are, that someone else like Markle is entitled to free speech (even though there is obviously lies in there) but your entitlement to that same free speech gets you fired and death threats made against your loved ones. That is what this ‘cancel culture’ has come to. When Morgan was calling out Trump for his fake news (lies) they same people loved it. Or Boris for his failings. Fairness and consistency has given way to dishonesty and gross hypocrisy all round in some quarters.

Still really trying to pretend this didn't happen eh

qJSpZA9AFEg

nKBaEnuPKHI

"I mean, I knew her for about a year and a half... got on really well with her or whatever and then BANG! She met someone more important... immediately ghosted... I never heard from her again... the old slippery-slope ladder had gone up and she had climbed her way out of my orbit. So my experience WASN'T GREAT", he spits, "I've got to be honest with you".

Sad, sad, bitter chap. It's a shame really.

[jet]

Still really trying to pretend this didn't happen eh

qJSpZA9AFEg

nKBaEnuPKHI

"I mean, I knew her for about a year and a half... got on really well with her or whatever and then BANG! She met someone more important... immediately ghosted... I never heard from her again... the old slippery-slope ladder had gone up and she had climbed her way out of my orbit. So my experience WASN'T GREAT", he spits, "I've got to be honest with you".

Sad, sad, bitter chap. It's a shame really.

I know that happened, but what has it got to do with him being cancelled for having the rapidly disappearing privilege of free speech (not hate speech, after all'), which is okay for some to have and spout lies with (Markle) but not others, depending on who you are?

[LukeB]

freedom of speech does not meen freedom of consequences

it's really hypocrtical to excuse someones vile comments and behaviour and say freedom of speech and let them do whatever but then slam Meghan for speaking up, where's her freedom of speech? you're doing the exact same thing as 'cancel' culture'

[Josy]

She got him fired from his job...by personally contacting his executive producer, that's his excuse, and a pretty damn good one too, because it was a disgrace.....and its no laughing matter that that can happen these days for nothing other than saying you don't believe someone who you, well - simply don't believe.:joker:

He got himself fired from his job because he just couldn't control his hatred and took it too far and funny enough you mentioned in the other post about people not being able to have an opinion when the very reason he stormed off set like a petulant child was due to someone else actually having an opinion and questioning his obsessive tirades against Meghan

[jet]

freedom of speech does not meen freedom of consequences

it's really hypocrtical to excuse someones vile comments and behaviour and say freedom of speech and let them do whatever but then slam Meghan for speaking up, where's her freedom of speech? you're doing the exact same thing as 'cancel' culture'

What vile comments and behaviour? Examples?
What about Harry?

[Parmy]

Meghan's comments are just as vile as her actions are..and piers Morgan ain't much better.

[jet]

:joker:

He got himself fired from his job because he just couldn't control his hatred and took it too far and funny enough you mentioned in the other post about people not being able to have an opinion when the very reason he stormed off set like a petulant child was due to someone else actually having an opinion and questioning his obsessive tirades against Meghan

No, Meghan got him fired - personally. He was doing what he is paid to do and get the ratings he brought in. If you ever read his newspaper columns he is like that with many celebs, OTT and forceful with his opinions, not just Markle. In fact he is sometimes quite easy on her in his columns.

[Josy]

No, Meghan got him fired - personally. He was doing what he is paid to do and get the ratings he brought in. If you ever read his newspaper columns he is like that with many celebs, OTT and forceful with his opinions, not just Markle. In fact he is sometimes quite easy on her in his columns.

Being a newspaper columnist doesn't excuse obsessive vendettas nor was he being paid to constantly express pure vile hate filled OTT rants about her on a morning TV show.

He couldn't handle the brush off and has been fixated with hatred towards her ever since its actually really embarassing on his part and imo bordering into unhealthy territory, if it was a normal member of the public acting the same towards someone they woulda been slapped with an interdict by now :/

His behaviour is just not normal.

[Crimson Dynamo]

False.

He whined about them every morning. Way more than “report” news concerning them.

He did not that is incorrect information

[jet]

Being a newspaper columnist doesn't excuse obsessive vendettas nor was he being paid to constantly express pure vile hate filled OTT rants about her on a morning TV show.

He couldn't handle the brush off and has been fixated with hatred towards her ever since its actually really embarassing on his part and imo bordering into unhealthy territory, if it was a normal member of the public acting the same towards someone they woulda been slapped with an interdict by now :/

His behaviour is just not normal.

What pure vile hate though? Examples? Voicing valid opinions of her from many thousands of miles away is hardly interdict worthy. You should listen to some utube Australian news channels and what some of their anchors have to say about her, Piers is no worse. :laugh:
He says what the majority of the public think about her, in an admittedly OTT way. Whether his behaviour is normal or abnormal is his problem, many agree with him anyway, because we think he's right in his estimations of her.

[rusticgal]

Meghan's comments are just as vile as her actions are..and piers Morgan ain't much better.



Yup...it’s ok for Meghan to make vile accusations but it’s not Ok for Piers Morgan. Typical hypocrisy from the Meghan supporters..:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

If the actual royals are calling him to say thanks

you know what he is saying is true

no two ways about it

that woman is a stranger to the truth and she is using mental health as a weapon to further her career

astonishing

[user104658]

I know that happened, but what has it got to do with him being cancelled for having the rapidly disappearing privilege of free speech (not hate speech, after all'), which is okay for some to have and spout lies with (Markle) but not others, depending on who you are?

He didn't get "cancelled" he got fired. Using your job/platform to take out your personal vendetta against someone you "knew and were friends with for a year and a half before they ghosted you" is unprofessional, and when you behave unprofessionally, you risk getting fired. I'm afraid that's the harsh realities of the world, jet. If he didn't want to lose his job he shouldn't have behaved unprofessionally?

[AnnieK]

Are the actual royals actually ringing him though?

[user104658]

If the actual royals are calling him to say thanks

you know what he is saying is true

no two ways about it

that woman is a stranger to the truth and she is using mental health as a weapon to further her career

astonishing

:joker: can you even logically explain this statement? Why would "Royals saying thanks" make it more likely to be true?

[user104658]

Are the actual royals actually ringing him though?

I'd eat the hats of everyone here if an actual Royal has called Piers Morgan :hehe:. Maybe a tertiary one but the less said about most of them the better.

[Jordan.]

Are the actual royals actually ringing him though?

He claims he's received messages on their behalf, so nope no actual royals calling him to say thanks,

[Josy]

What pure vile hate though? Examples? Voicing valid opinions of her from many thousands of miles away is hardly interdict worthy. You should listen to some utube Australian news channels and what some of their anchors have to say about her, Piers is no worse. [emoji23]

He says what the majority of the public think about her, in an admittedly OTT way. Whether his behaviour is normal or abnormal is his problem, many agree with him anyway, because we think he's right in his estimations of her.

Rubbishing someone's admittance of suicidal thoughts and mental health struggles on a massive platform such as morning tv is completely vile and goes way beyond having 'a valid opinion' especially with how much stigma can still be attached to speaking about things like that.

And no he isn't speaking for the majority of the public at all, as well as the 57,000 complaints his rant about Meghans mental health got all you have to do is read through some article comments elsewhere online lately and you will see there's as much people completely disagree with him as well as the people that have done a complete uturn due to his ongoing obsessive behaviour.

[jet]

He didn't get "cancelled" he got fired. Using your job/platform to take out your personal vendetta against someone you "knew and were friends with for a year and a half before they ghosted you" is unprofessional, and when you behave unprofessionally, you risk getting fired. I'm afraid that's the harsh realities of the world, jet. If he didn't want to lose his job he shouldn't have behaved unprofessionally?

Then he has behaved 'unprofessionally' hundreds of times, because he gets het up about many people and things, very very often. Have you ever watched the show? Strange that its only when Markle gets on the phone that he's fired. Or should I say 'cancelled'. She attempted to get the Royals cancelled too, remember, with her lies. :hee:
She's trouble with a capital T.

I thought you said you were opting out? Hmmm....

[Josy]

Are the actual royals actually ringing him though?Exactly

We are supposed to take him at his word because he doesn't want to name anyone yet he was the one saying Meghan should name the Royal Racist :joker:

[jet]

Rubbishing someone's admittance of suicidal thoughts and mental health struggles on a massive platform such as morning tv is completely vile and goes way beyond having 'a valid opinion' especially with how much stigma can still be attached to speaking about things like that.

And no he isn't speaking for the majority of the public at all, as well as the 57,000 complaints his rant about Meghans mental health got all you have to do is read through some article comments elsewhere online lately and you will see there's as much people completely disagree with him as well as the people that have done a complete uturn due to his ongoing obsessive behaviour.

As I said before, Morgan made in clear he was referring to her being refused help from the Royals, which is frankly not in the least believable, not that he disbelieved she suffered mental health problems....why is that overlooked?
It depends where you read whether people disagree with him or not.

[thesheriff443]

This were I stand regardless of piers and anyone else.
Do I believe them,no
Do I trust them, no

From the interview alone it has been proven they have told their version of the truth from the actual one.

And the idea that Meghan was suicidal and her and Harry couldn’t get any help is the biggest and most disgusting lie in my eyes.

[jet]

So whatever Morgan's motives, which has been done to death now, what about Markle's disgusting and unproven allegations and her outright lies? What have those who think he is vile (which is a valid opinion obviously if that is what some think, I must add) think about her (and Harry's) behaviour?

[user104658]

Then he has behaved 'unprofessionally' hundreds of times, because he gets het up about many people and things, very very often. Have you ever watched the show? Strange that its only when Markle gets on the phone that he's fired. Or should I say 'cancelled'. She attempted to get the Royals cancelled too, remember, with her lies. :hee:
She's trouble with a capital T.

I thought you said you were opting out? Hmmm....


It’s unprofessional because of his previous friendship/personal relationship with her, not because he “gets het up”. It’s called conflict of interests, and it’s not a particularly difficult concept to understand, for anyone, let alone an experienced journalist, so again, he knows fine well his conduct was unprofessional.

I’ve temporarily opted in against my better judgement.

[user104658]

So whatever Morgan's motives, which has been done to death now, what about Markle's disgusting and unproven allegations and her outright lies? What have those who think he is vile (which is a valid opinion obviously if that is what some think, I must add) think about her (and Harry's) behaviour?


You’re going to have to be more specific because if you’re pretending these things haven’t been addressed multiple times on here, you are mistaken.

[Marsh.]

Still really trying to pretend this didn't happen eh

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"I mean, I knew her for about a year and a half... got on really well with her or whatever and then BANG! She met someone more important... immediately ghosted... I never heard from her again... the old slippery-slope ladder had gone up and she had climbed her way out of my orbit. So my experience WASN'T GREAT", he spits, "I've got to be honest with you".

Sad, sad, bitter chap. It's a shame really.

:joker:

[jet]

You’re going to have to be more specific because if you’re pretending these things haven’t been addressed multiple times on here, you are mistaken.

So has Morgan's behaviour. Doesn't stop any of us. :shrug:

Take your pick on M&H's lies, or don't.
I'm opting out for a few hours. A good film awaits. :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s unprofessional because of his previous friendship/personal relationship with her, not because he “gets het up”. It’s called conflict of interests, and it’s not a particularly difficult concept to understand, for anyone, let alone an experienced journalist, so again, he knows fine well his conduct was unprofessional.

I’ve temporarily opted in against my better judgement.

and did you say that when he had a go at Clarkson, Sugar, Cowell, Ant and Dec - he knows most celebs these days from his career and calls them all out if they lie or behave badly


His job was to report news and give opinion

its farcical to pretend he was the main news anchor on ITV

[Marsh.]

Nobody called him the “main news anchor”. That would massively overestimate his skill set. :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

This were I stand regardless of piers and anyone else.
Do I believe them,no
Do I trust them, no

From the interview alone it has been proven they have told their version of the truth from the actual one.

And the idea that Meghan was suicidal and her and Harry couldn’t get any help is the biggest and most disgusting lie in my eyes.

its even more monstrous to then take on the "roles" Harry has

its downright evil in my opinion

[thesheriff443]

its even more monstrous to then take on the "roles" Harry has

its downright evil in my opinion

Two strong willed driven people Harry serving in the army being in a combat zone and he couldn’t get his suicidal wife any help.

It’s an insult to people’s intelligence.

[user104658]

and did you say that when he had a go at Clarkson, Sugar, Cowell, Ant and Dec - he knows most celebs these days from his career and calls them all out if they lie or behave badly


His job was to report news and give opinion

its farcical to pretend he was the main news anchor on ITV


He wasn’t taking Ant and Dec out for cozy dinners and then going home to fap off over Saturday Night Take Away or whinging about being ghosted by Simon Cowell though was he :joker:.

[jet]

He wasn’t taking Ant and Dec out for cozy dinners and then going home to fap off over Saturday Night Take Away or whinging about being ghosted by Simon Cowell though was he :joker:.

The ratings didn't shoot up when he was about to give off about Ant and Dec or Simon Cowell though, did they? They sure did with hot topic H&M though and he did his job by giving the opinions he was paid to give. It's not as if ITV didn't expect a tirade from him beforehand given the very controversial interview, eh? :smug:

[user104658]

The ratings didn't shoot up when he was about to give off about Ant and Dec or Simon Cowell though, did they? They sure did with hot topic H&M though and he did his job by giving the opinions he was paid to give. It's not as if ITV didn't expect a tirade from him beforehand given the very controversial interview, eh? :smug:


Are you suggesting that his unprofessional conduct doesn’t matter because he brought in good ratings?

[rusticgal]

Two strong willed driven people Harry serving in the army being in a combat zone and he couldn’t get his suicidal wife any help.

It’s an insult to people’s intelligence.


.....along with Harry’s association with Mental Health groups and campaigns...but people still want to believe their bull****.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Exactly

We are supposed to take him at his word because he doesn't want to name anyone yet he was the one saying Meghan should name the Royal Racist :joker:

Why are you laughing between an accusation if racism and a positive call of support?

I find that strange

[AnnieK]

Why are you laughing between an accusation if racism and a positive call of support?

I find that strange

Because both could be the truth or both could be bulll****. Piers called for names from meghan than refused to give these so called royals who thanked him. Why??? I call bull****

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because both could be the truth or both could be bulll****. Piers called for names from meghan than refused to give these so called royals who thanked him. Why??? I call bull****

One is a huge accusation in one one is being modest


Wtaf??

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because both could be the truth or both could be bulll****. Piers called for names from meghan than refused to give these so called royals who thanked him. Why??? I call bull****

Are you saying piers said this and the royal family won't deny even though it's a lie??

The queen??

[Josy]

Why are you laughing between an accusation if racism and a positive call of support?



I find that strangeI'm laughing at the hypocrisy [emoji1787]

[jet]

Are you suggesting that his unprofessional conduct doesn’t matter because he brought in good ratings?

A TV programme wanting big ratings? Never! Morgan was doing what he has been doing for years, giving his unvarnished, honest reactions to the actions of anyone from government ministers to celebrities in his bullish style, which is why 360,000 people had signed a petition as of 20th March for him to be reinstated.
ITV knew what they were getting but got off scot free by asking him to apologize to Markle or leave. Kudo’s to him for saying he wasn’t going to apologize for what he believed, for that would make him a liar.

Do you think that Markle's lies and BS don't matter because the interview brought in big ratings, raised M&H's profile with Americans and lined Oprah's already stuffed pockets?

[jet]

Because both could be the truth or both could be bulll****. Piers called for names from meghan than refused to give these so called royals who thanked him. Why??? I call bull****

Because it doesn't really matter which royal/royals called him, does it?
But it does matter when an allegation of racism in the royal family leads to disgracefully unfair suspicion being cast on innocent members with the resulting speculation caused by not giving the name.

[user104658]

the royal family won't deny even though it's a lie??

Never Explain Never Complain right? They won’t say either way :hee:

[user104658]

Morgan was doing what he has been doing for years, giving his unvarnished, honest reactions to the actions of anyone from government ministers to celebrities in his bullish style


No he wasn’t because - again - he doesn’t have a personal history with those people nor does he feel like he’s been personally wronged by them in the past, resulting in bitterness, bias and having an axe to grind.

We can carry on pretending that his previous - well documented, from his own mouth in his own words - friendship with Meghan didn’t happen or wasn’t a factor but it’s just getting silly at this point. There are videos of him - not hearsay, not rumours, not “reports” - freely talking about how he felt ghosted, wronged and hurt and you’d have to be extremely naive to believe that his dented ego isn’t a large part of this story, and didn’t massively play into the behaviour that got him dismissed.

It’s fantasy land stuff. The videos are right there, and there are countless more.

[jet]

And no he isn't speaking for the majority of the public at all, as well as the 57,000 complaints his rant about Meghans mental health got all you have to do is read through some article comments elsewhere online lately and you will see there's as much people completely disagree with him as well as the people that have done a complete uturn due to his ongoing obsessive behaviour.

360,000 people signed to have him reinstated.
57, 000 complaints.
He is speaking for a majority.
UGov Polls also show that Meghan is disliked by a large majority, I've posted them as they appear.

[jet]

No he wasn’t because - again - he doesn’t have a personal history with those people nor does he feel like he’s been personally wronged by them in the past, resulting in bitterness, bias and having an axe to grind.

We can carry on pretending that his previous - well documented, from his own mouth in his own words - friendship with Meghan didn’t happen or wasn’t a factor but it’s just getting silly at this point. There are videos of him - not hearsay, not rumours, not “reports” - freely talking about how he felt ghosted, wronged and hurt and you’d have to be extremely naive to believe that his dented ego isn’t a large part of this story, and didn’t massively play into the behaviour that got him dismissed.

It’s fantasy land stuff. The videos are right there, and there are countless more.

I already know all this. Whoever said his friendship with Meghan didn't happen? :confused:
So because he had a personal history with her means he shouldn't be allowed to express his opinions? - which matches the opinions of many others who have no history with her. He had personal history with Trump too....and many other high profile people who he likes and yes, dislikes - I've been reading his columns for years and Meghan is far from the first he has had very strong negative opinions about....

If his ego is dented that's his problem but not really vitally relevant because it doesn't mean he is making up stuff about her - because he has never said anything at all others aren't saying, he's just more full on about it.... its not that surprising when she cultivated his friendship for ages for the doors he could open for her and then cast him aside when no longer useful like she has done with others before him?
and no, I don't think that is a massive part of what got him dismissed, because as you say, he's said about her ghosting him on many occasions on the programme without any repercussions at all.

....you ignored the part of my post that asked you a question about the interview?

[GoldHeart]

There's having an opinion and then there's having an extremely creepy unhealthy obsession with someone.

Piers Morgan will never accept the fact that Meghan as he put it "ghosted him " , he's pathetic and he'll never move on. He'll continue to use her name to stay relevant like the desperate parasite that he is .

And as I keep saying , what on earth does his wife think and feel about all this I wonder .

[user104658]

....you ignored the part of my post that asked you a question about the interview?

I’ve responded to the part about the “lies and BS in their interview” multiple times, I’m not going to go in circles with it, if you need a refresher on my thoughts on that you can go back and read those posts.

[thesheriff443]

.....along with Harry’s association with Mental Health groups and campaigns...but people still want to believe their bull****.

It is embarrassing but people get taken for a ride every day of the week.

[user104658]

He was a figurehead for a few MH charities, not a clinical psychologist :joker:. It's OK to not understand the difference :pat: but surely when it's been explained over and over, you have to let it go?

[bots]

He was a figurehead for a few MH charities, not a clinical psychologist :joker:. It's OK to not understand the difference :pat: but surely when it's been explained over and over, you have to let it go?

oh come on, Harry has been promoting those charities along side his own mental health struggles for years. He connected them together on a personal level. To say that then doesn't apply to Meghan too is just laughable

[Marsh.]

There's having an opinion and then there's having an extremely creepy unhealthy obsession with someone.

Piers Morgan will never accept the fact that Meghan as he put it "ghosted him " , he's pathetic and he'll never move on. He'll continue to use her name to stay relevant like the desperate parasite that he is .

And as I keep saying , what on earth does his wife think and feel about all this I wonder .

Spot on.

Why the scum has fans I have no idea. The things he's done in his "career".

[thesheriff443]

He was a figurehead for a few MH charities, not a clinical psychologist :joker:. It's OK to not understand the difference :pat: but surely when it's been explained over and over, you have to let it go?

You don’t have to have a degree in mental health to pick up the phone and call someone who works in mental mental health and it’s not like they never had the cash to go private is it.

They didn’t het help because she didn’t need it.

Your a family man be honest with your self if someone you loved was feeling suicidal you would walk through fire to get them help but Harry did nothing

Come on wake up and smell the bull sh1t

[user104658]

oh come on, Harry has been promoting those charities along side his own mental health struggles for years. He connected them together on a personal level. To say that then doesn't apply to Meghan too is just laughable

It literally does not mean he knew what to do when his wife was in crisis. Harry may have some personal experience and have worked with a few organisations, but he doesn't even have any sort of qualifications. My wife is an actual, qualified Mental Health professional working alongside other qualified medical professionals every day... working with people struggling with their mental health every day... it's completely different when it's your own family or friends who need help, and many actual professionals panic and don't know what to do in that situation, let alone a charity figurehead. People are trying to paint him as some sort of mental health expert and it's utterly ridiculous. They were in a unique situation, she was struggling, he didn't know what to do. What's so hard to understand about that?

[user104658]

You don’t have to have a degree in mental health to pick up the phone and call someone who works in mental mental health and it’s not like they never had the cash to go private is it.

They didn’t het help because she didn’t need it.

Your a family man be honest with your self if someone you loved was feeling suicidal you would walk through fire to get them help but Harry did nothing

Come on wake up and smell the bull sh1t

When my mum was suicidal, and made multiple actual suicide attempts, in my late teens and early 20's I did everything I could to pretend that it was fine, it wouldn't happen again, it was a one off, or it simply wasn't happening.

An active senior Royal can't just pick up the phone and call a helpline or seek private mental health help without going through the institution and accepting the mental health professionals provided by them. Trying to act like they can just call the Samaritans or their local GP's community mental health nurse like anyone else is utter nonsense. That's what they were trying to express throughout the entire interview, but people have chosen to ignore it because they've already made up their minds about "which side they're on" and so she must be "lying about having poor mental health". A really toxic mindset to follow.

[Marsh.]

It literally does not mean he knew what to do when his wife was in crisis. Harry may have some personal experience and have worked with a few organisations, but he doesn't even have any sort of qualifications. My wife is an actual, qualified Mental Health professional working alongside other qualified medical professionals every day... working with people struggling with their mental health every day... it's completely different when it's your own family or friends who need help, and many actual professionals panic and don't know what to do in that situation, let alone a charity figurehead. People are trying to paint him as some sort of mental health expert and it's utterly ridiculous. They were in a unique situation, she was struggling, he didn't know what to do. What's so hard to understand about that?

Not to mention, he confessed to his own mental health struggles. And when in a place where you're struggling you can barely help yourself let alone a loved one.

"They were mentally unwell, why can't they think straight!! He has money!!! :fist:"

[rusticgal]

Because it doesn't really matter which royal/royals called him, does it?
But it does matter when an allegation of racism in the royal family leads to disgracefully unfair suspicion being cast on innocent members with the resulting speculation caused by not giving the name.


Exactly....Meghans comment being an serious accusation.

[rusticgal]

He was a figurehead for a few MH charities, not a clinical psychologist :joker:. It's OK to not understand the difference :pat: but surely when it's been explained over and over, you have to let it go?

If you are a figurehead for an institution and someone approached you for help within that institution you would know who to approach to get that help...:shrug:

[jet]

If you are a figurehead for an institution and someone approached you for help within that institution you would know who to approach to get that help...:shrug:

The excuses that are made are so ridiculous Rusti that its just laughable now. :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

History will show the problem was with Meghan, not you. She
has fallen out with most of her close relatives – including her
father and half-sister – and no old friends were on the guest list
for her wedding.

Her friends are in showbiz now. They're ready to exploit her for
their own gains, be it by securing TV interviews or advancing
divisive identity politics.

By contrast, you are going to be king. Your priority is to keep
the monarchy popular, not give in to your brother's petulant
tantrums and delusions.

Bowing down to Harry and Meghan is no longer the right thing
to do and that's why you were correct to publicly state at the
first available opportunity that 'we're very much not a racist
family'.

Many old friends of Harry I have spoken to are convinced he will
come back to you and Great Britain, but it's going to take him
some time to work out the mistakes he's made and how he's let
you down.

Until that time, there is nothing more you can do. Harry knows
you love him and that you'll do anything for him if he's in
serious trouble.

It's painful. But the time has come to stop appeasing your
brother. He'll soon learn millions of dollars and a Californian
mansion don't compare to the unconditional and unwavering
love of your blood relatives.

full letter here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9449153/DAN-WOOTTON-writes-open-letter-Prince-William.html

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/E377/production/_116713285_danw.jpg

[rusticgal]

The excuses that are made are so ridiculous Rusti that its just laughable now. :umm2:


Apparently their Royal Doulton figurines to commemorate their Wedding have been slashed in price as they are not selling....I wonder why :hehe:

[thesheriff443]

Apparently their Royal Doulton figurines to commemorate their Wedding have been slashed in price as they are not selling....I wonder why :hehe:

Harry couldn’t call anyone because his pay as you go phone had no credit on it and his dad had stopped giving him millions :joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

Harry couldn’t call anyone because his pay as you go phone had no credit on it and his dad had stopped giving him millions :joker:

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.royaldoulton.com/-/media/products/2020/04/21/12/41/resource_royaldoultonemea_40035370.ashx?q=70&iw=644&ih=644&crop=1

WAS £195

NOW SLASHED TO £146

:hehe:

[AnnieK]

https://www.royaldoulton.com/-/media/products/2020/04/21/12/41/resource_royaldoultonemea_40035370.ashx?q=70&iw=644&ih=644&crop=1

WAS £195

NOW SLASHED TO £146

:hehe:

Might be because its bloody ugly and bears no resemblance to them, the Meghan figurine in particular :laugh:

[bots]

i thought it would be 1.46 :laugh:

[rusticgal]

i thought it would be 1.46 :laugh:



You would have to pay me to have one...:laugh:

[thesheriff443]

Can see fetch the bolt cutters putting his head on meghans

[Marsh.]

Harry couldn’t call anyone because his pay as you go phone had no credit on it and his dad had stopped giving him millions :joker:

Sheriff still jealous of those millions.

[rusticgal]

https://www.royaldoulton.com/-/media/products/2020/04/21/12/41/resource_royaldoultonemea_40035370.ashx?q=70&iw=644&ih=644&crop=1

WAS £195

NOW SLASHED TO £146

:hehe:


£146.25p....:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/royal-family/2021/04/04/TELEMMGLPICT000255037055_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqNJjoeBT 78QIaYdkJdEY4CnGTJFJS74MYhNY6w3GNbO8.jpeg?imwidth= 960

Kaluuya, who was born in London to Ugandan parents, used the race
allegations raised by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in their Oprah Winfrey
interview as he made his hosting debut on long-running comedy show
Saturday Night Live.

"First of all, I know you're hearing my accent and thinking 'oh no, he's not
black, he's British,’” he said.

"Let me reassure you that I am black. I'm black and I'm British. Basically I
am what the royal family was worried the baby would look like."

Opening the show, Kaluuya discussed racism in the UK and US.

"People ask me what's worse, British racism or American racism," he told the
studio audience in New York.

"Let me put it this way, British racism is so bad white people left. They
wanted to be free, free to create their own kind of racisms.

"That's why they invented Australia, South Africa and Boston."

:joker:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/04/04/danielkaluuya-jokes-meghan-harrys-royal-family-race-row-us-television/

[thesheriff443]

Sheriff still jealous of those millions.

You couldn’t be more wrong I’m not interested in material things or money

[Glenn.]

You couldn’t be more wrong I’m not interested in material things or money

Why do you continuously bring their wealth into the discussion then?

[thesheriff443]

Why do you continuously bring their wealth into the discussion then?

Because there are people worse off than me who have nothing or next to. Nothing worrying themselves sick over bills or putting food on the table

So people with millions preaching to working class people on how they should be living their lives is bloody rich In my opinion pardon the pun.

[The Slim Reaper]

Because there are people worse off than me who have nothing or next to. Nothing worrying themselves sick over bills or putting food on the table

So people with millions preaching to working class people on how they should be living their lives is bloody rich In my opinion pardon the pun.

But we're OK with a load of old Etonians and Bullingdon club overlords telling our working classes how to live?

[Tom4784]

But we're OK with a load of old Etonians and Bullingdon club overlords telling our working classes how to live?

Tories are allowed to do that, because they tickle our balls and tell us we're right to distrust immigrants and anyone who isn't like us.

[The Slim Reaper]

Tories are allowed to do that, because they tickle our balls and tell us we're right to distrust immigrants and anyone who isn't like us.

The disconnect is just insane at this point. Not even taking about this thread specifically, just in general. Truth doesn't matter at all.

[Tom4784]

Why care about the truth, or reality when someone is telling you what you want to hear?

After all, facts do not overcome feelings, and expert opinion only matters if it aligns with those feelings.

[user104658]

History will show the problem was with Meghan, not you. She
has fallen out with most of her close relatives – including her
father and half-sister – and no old friends were on the guest list
for her wedding.

Her friends are in showbiz now. They're ready to exploit her for
their own gains, be it by securing TV interviews or advancing
divisive identity politics.

By contrast, you are going to be king. Your priority is to keep
the monarchy popular, not give in to your brother's petulant
tantrums and delusions.

Bowing down to Harry and Meghan is no longer the right thing
to do and that's why you were correct to publicly state at the
first available opportunity that 'we're very much not a racist
family'.

Many old friends of Harry I have spoken to are convinced he will
come back to you and Great Britain, but it's going to take him
some time to work out the mistakes he's made and how he's let
you down.

Until that time, there is nothing more you can do. Harry knows
you love him and that you'll do anything for him if he's in
serious trouble.

It's painful. But the time has come to stop appeasing your
brother. He'll soon learn millions of dollars and a Californian
mansion don't compare to the unconditional and unwavering
love of your blood relatives.


OK so putting Royalty and everything else aside - who the **** does this guy think he is telling someone, anyone, how to conduct their personal relationships with members of their own family? William should tell him to **** right off, patronising tit.

[Marsh.]

Dan Wootton's Open Letter to Prince William

:laugh2:

[bots]

when Dan Wooton and Piers Morgan are used as beacons of truth and example, you know there is a bit of a problem :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

But we're OK with a load of old Etonians and Bullingdon club overlords telling our working classes how to live?

No not at all, you are trying to say one size fits all and it very much doesn’t.

[GoldHeart]

Didn't Piers say Harry and Meghan should name the person who made the comment about their children's skin tone? If so he should name who has thanked him.

:joker: Exactly
But that won't be happening , he's trying to make out the entire monarchy agrees with him. He's a complete idiot .

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker: Exactly
But that won't be happening , he's trying to make out the entire monarchy agrees with him. He's a complete idiot .



No he isn't, nothing he said can be interpreted that way

Can you explain?

[Cherie]

Police called 9 times to Harry and Meghan’s home in as many months

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/harry-meghan-house-police-california-b1828443.html


:unsure:

[Glenn.]

Police called 9 times to Harry and Meghan’s home in as many months

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/harry-meghan-house-police-california-b1828443.html


:unsure:

Did you read the article?

[rusticgal]

Police called 9 times to Harry and Meghan’s home in as many months

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/harry-meghan-house-police-california-b1828443.html


:unsure:


No surprise there....I dont think they thought it through very well did they.

[user104658]

Police called 9 times to Harry and Meghan’s home in as many months

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/harry-meghan-house-police-california-b1828443.html


:unsure:

It'll be even more this year now he has more time on his hands

https://i.imgur.com/S6Iih38.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

It'll be even more this year now he has more time on his hands

https://i.imgur.com/S6Iih38.png

:joker:

[Cherie]

It'll be even more this year now he has more time on his hands

https://i.imgur.com/S6Iih38.png

:laugh:

[Cherie]

No surprise there....I dont think they thought it through very well did they.

One of the most important issues in protecting his family yet Harry never thought about who would pick up the tab

[arista]

But we're OK with a load of old Etonians and Bullingdon club overlords telling our working classes how to live?


Its the System
we live in Slim.

[arista]

[Daniel Kaluuya jokes
People ask me what's worse, British racism or American racism," he told the
studio audience in New York.

"Let me put it this way, British racism is so bad white people left. They
wanted to be free, free to create their own kind of racisms.

"That's why they invented Australia, South Africa and Boston."]


Yes he was on Saturday Night Live,
on SkyComedyHD
Mondays


The American Audience
with Mask's on
thought he was most Funny.

[rusticgal]

It'll be even more this year now he has more time on his hands

https://i.imgur.com/S6Iih38.png


:joker:

[rusticgal]

One of the most important issues in protecting his family yet Harry never thought about who would pick up the tab


Well I guess he thought Daddy had that covered...

[rusticgal]

I guess Harry will be home sooner than expected...

[Jordan.]

I guess Harry will be home sooner than expected...

Classless

[rusticgal]

Classless


Sadly its a fact....

[UserSince2005]

A thread to discuss Harry's return to the UK for Prince Philips funeral.

It will be awkward, but will there be drama?

[UserSince2005]

I guess Meghan will have to come along too?

[DouglasS]

I guess Meghan will have to come along too?

I doubt she will be welcome, it’s a very sensitive time for the family and the attention should be on Phillip and the family, not Meghan. Also those who loved Phillip are already going through enough.

[Cherie]

Meghan is probably too far along to fly I would have thought?

[Niamh.]

Meghan is probably too far along to fly I would have thought?

Yeah I would say so

[arista]

Meghan is probably too far along to fly I would have thought?


Thats handy

[arista]

A thread to discuss Harry's return to the UK for Prince Philips funeral.

It will be awkward, but will there be drama?


Depends if he Hits a Press Photographer

[UserSince2005]

I want my thread separate to this!?!

[Josy]

I want my thread separate to this!?!This thread is plenty.

[rusticgal]

Meghan is probably too far along to fly I would have thought?


She can with a Doctors note...but its a good enough reason NOT to come which I think is for the best.

[Liam-]

She can with a Doctors note...but its a good enough reason NOT to come which I think is for the best.

I’m sure she’ll take your feelings into consideration

[Marsh.]

She can with a Doctors note...but its a good enough reason NOT to come which I think is for the best.

And what you think is the best for the family funeral of a bunch of people you don't know. :joker:

[UserSince2005]

This thread is plenty.

No hun, theres going to be so much dramas.
we need a separate thread for each evil glance tbh

[rusticgal]

I’m sure she’ll take your feelings into consideration


Lets hope so...

[AnnieK]

Harry, Meghan and Archie remain much loved members of the family.

Hopefully, in such sad times, some bridges could be built and fences mended. Life is short.

[user104658]

Harry, Meghan and Archie remain much loved members of the family.

Hopefully, in such sad times, some bridges could be built and fences mended. Life is short.

No Annie! We hates them! We hates the filfy Meghanses doesn't we!

https://media.giphy.com/media/12Pb87uq0Vwq2c/giphy.gif

[Glenn.]

https://twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/1380503080245063681?s=21

[Niamh.]

https://twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/1380503080245063681?s=21

Yep.

Although as Cherie pointed out she probably won't be able to fly over anyway because she's too far into her pregnancy

[Glenn.]

Yep.

Although as Cherie pointed out she probably won't be able to fly over anyway because she's too far into her pregnancy

That will still be met with criticism also though.

[Niamh.]

That will still be met with criticism also though.

Keeping Prince Phillips unborn grandchild away from his funeral?

[user104658]

That will still be met with criticism also though.

It will be deemed a "convenient excuse" :idc:. You can write it before it happens.

[bots]

i would imagine Meghan is being very careful given her previous miscarriage, so I wouldn't expect her to travel. I don't think it's a given that Harry will appear either. Historically, the family aren't noted for their concern

[Glenn.]

i would imagine Meghan is being very careful given her previous miscarriage, so I wouldn't expect her to travel. I don't think it's a given that Harry will appear either. Historically, the family aren't noted for their concern

I think Harry will definitely come home for the funeral. I’d be surprised if he wasn’t already on his way back now.

[Glenn.]

It will be deemed a "convenient excuse" :idc:. You can write it before it happens.

The haters are so predictable

[UserSince2005]

pregnant or not, she needs to come back to the uk and face the music,
no more hiding in the million dollar hollywood pad

[user104658]

pregnant or not, she needs to come back to the uk and face the music,
no more hiding in the million dollar hollywood pad

She doesn't "need" to do anything because she's not under the control of the Royal Institution that has to pander to the British public :hee:. She can do literally whatever she wants.

[Niamh.]

pregnant or not, she needs to come back to the uk and face the music,
no more hiding in the million dollar hollywood pad

She should risk her baby's life to go to a funeral most probably don't even want her at anyway? You realise it's dangerous to fly while heavily pregnant and as BOTS pointed out she's only recently had a miscarriage

[bots]

She doesn't "need" to do anything because she's not under the control of the Royal Institution that has to pander to the British public :hee:. She can do literally whatever she wants.

she needs to be put in the stocks and have rotten fruit thrown at her, we will have justice :fist:

[Cherie]

i would imagine Meghan is being very careful given her previous miscarriage, so I wouldn't expect her to travel. I don't think it's a given that Harry will appear either. Historically, the family aren't noted for their concern

I wouldn't say it is a given either, alot will depend on Megs due date I guess

[rusticgal]

I think Harry will definitely come over....alone.

[Kazanne]

I think Harry will definitely come over....alone.

Yes,I think this too, it will be a quiet funeral too , feel sorry for The Queen.

[jet]

The last person the Royals will want to see at Philip's funeral is Meghan Markle.

[thesheriff443]

The last person the Royals will want to see at Philip's funeral is Meghan Markle.

Yes no one has spoken to her because they don’t want to

[Glenn.]

It’s a good job the safety of her unborn child will be a priority over the funeral then isn’t it.

[Parmy]

So when is the clown prince using his royal privalige to fly back to britain on a fuel guzzling jet?

Will he self isolate at his own cost?

Is it today, tomorrow?

[hijaxers]

I wouldn't say it is a given either, alot will depend on Megs due date I guess

They've indicated summer birth but who knows ?

[Marsh.]

Keeping Prince Phillips unborn grandchild away from his funeral?

Not her evil womb joining in on the "split the family up" plan?

[rusticgal]

The last person the Royals will want to see at Philip's funeral is Meghan Markle.


:joker:

[GoldHeart]

pregnant or not, she needs to come back to the uk and face the music,
no more hiding in the million dollar hollywood pad

Excuse me , she's not hiding.

[GoldHeart]

Not her evil womb joining in on the "split the family up" plan?

Ridiculous isn't it
And whether she goes or not , she'll still be attacked.

I think it's unlikely she'll go as she's heavily pregnant .

[Marsh.]

Ridiculous isn't it
And whether she goes or not , she'll still be attacked.

I think it's unlikely she'll go as she's heavily pregnant .

Exactly, whether she goes or not she'll be accused of doing either out of spite.

[Jordan.]

https://twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/1380503080245063681?s=21

:skull:

[Tom4784]

The last person the Royals will want to see at Philip's funeral is Meghan Markle.

I love baseless assumptions based on idle gossip.

[Vanessa]

Probably better if she doesn't go. She's heavily pregnant.
Harry can go.

[Parmy]

Royal privalige if he does go.

[Crimson Dynamo]

she isnt heavily pregnant

[thesheriff443]

I love baseless assumptions based on idle gossip.

So do you think after her interview dragging the royal family she will be welcomed?

If she comes people will be polite out of respect for the queen

Unless you think people should bend over backwards again to that jumped up actress

[Josy]

she isnt heavily pregnantYes she is, she's in her 3rd trimester

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes she is, she's in her 3rd trimester

i thought she was due in September?

[Josy]

i thought she was due in September?Summer

[AnnieK]

It looks like she won't be coming to the funeral. Harry will though and has spoken to his father according to Royal sources

[Crimson Dynamo]

Summer

August 31st is still summer

[Crimson Dynamo]

so is June the first

[Josy]

She's due end of spring early summer, she's heavily pregnant.

Jeezo not everything about her has to have a negative spin, every heavily pregnant or high risk without being heavily pregnant woman ie previous miscarraige etc is advised against flying.

[arista]

It looks like she won't be coming to the funeral. Harry will though and has spoken to his father according to Royal sources


how nice

[Crimson Dynamo]

it will be a relief to all the RF that she cant fly tbh, as Jet says they dont want her there and this will come as a relief to the poor Queen

[bots]

apart from the flying, the stress of the occasion wouldn't be advisable either. I'm no meghan fan, but give her a break fgs :laugh:

[Ammi]

...the focus of the day won’t be on Meghan or Harry either...all of those who attend will be focused on celebrating Philip and supporting the Queen...but to say that Meghan wouldn’t be wanted there is nothing less than spiteful...she’s the wife of the Queen’s grandchild and pregnant with her great grandchild...

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9453427/Will-Prince-Philips-death-send-Harry-Meghan.html

The readers of the DM online do not think that Meghan should attend

[Glenn.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9453427/Will-Prince-Philips-death-send-Harry-Meghan.html

The readers of the DM online do not think that Meghan should attend

Bless them

[Ammi]

...I’m sure that the DM won’t let us down in confirming that sheep think is the way of today and the future regarding Meghan and everything else...the main thing is that she protects herself and her unborn daughter, I’m sure that’s what all of the Royal family feel as well...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Prince Harry, 36, was extremely close to Prince Philip, although he is not thought to have seen him in person since the autumn of 2019.

DT

[user104658]

it will be a relief to all the RF that she cant fly tbh, as Jet says they dont want her there and this will come as a relief to the poor Queen


Imagine using someone’s death to have a petty dig at one of their family members :facepalm:.

[Marsh.]

she isnt heavily pregnant

i thought she was due in September?

August 31st is still summer

so is June the first

Christ, keep tugging those straws.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Christ, keep tugging those straws.

its not too hard to keep up

all we know is she is due summer

if its at the start she will be waddling

if its at the end she wont be heavily pregnant at the moment

summer lasts 3 months

[Glenn.]

Imagine being that pedantic

[Ammi]

...as Josy said previously, the due date is end of spring early summer and we’re in spring now so that would definitely indicate that her flying would be within medical advisement anyway and also taking into consideration her individual specifics of health/well being etc...there is also the care of Archie to consider, I would think...

[Tom4784]

The British public continue to show their lack of dignity and class by using the death of Harry's grandad as a way of attacking his wife. Newspapers shouldn't be running polls asking the public if Meghan should or should not attend a private funeral for a family member. People are truly scum.

[thesheriff443]

The British public continue to show their lack of dignity and class by using the death of Harry's grandad as a way of attacking his wife. Newspapers shouldn't be running polls asking the public if Meghan should or should not attend a private funeral for a family member. People are truly scum.

Meghan or Harry didn’t care enough about Phil to postpone the interview with Oprah that attacked the family that welcomed Meghan into their family while Phil was ill in hospital so people will think she shouldn’t come to the funeral

[Jordan.]

The British public continue to show their lack of dignity and class by using the death of Harry's grandad as a way of attacking his wife. Newspapers shouldn't be running polls asking the public if Meghan should or should not attend a private funeral for a family member. People are truly scum.

He wasn't even cold before people were already making it about Meghan and what she will do. Just shows the level of obsession.

[Tom4784]

So do you think after her interview dragging the royal family she will be welcomed?

If she comes people will be polite out of respect for the queen

Unless you think people should bend over backwards again to that jumped up actress

This is proof of how people will believe their own narrative over the established facts really, and it's really sad. She didn't 'drag' the royal family. She said the system didn't help her, she was opposed to the 'firm' and she distinguished that from the family. She also didn't disrespect the queen, in fact, she went out of her way to defend her, as did Harry.

You achieve nothing by lying to me about the facts of the interview, and you achieve nothing by lying to yourself by pretending she did something she did not.

See things for how they are, don't distort them into being false representations of what you want them to be.

[rusticgal]

The British public continue to show their lack of dignity and class by using the death of Harry's grandad as a way of attacking his wife. Newspapers shouldn't be running polls asking the public if Meghan should or should not attend a private funeral for a family member. People are truly scum.


No class whatsoever shown by Harry and Meghan attacking his family in public.

[rusticgal]

See things for how they are, don't distort them into being false representations of what you want them to be.



:joker:...just like Meghan did.

[Tom4784]

Meghan or Harry didn’t care enough about Phil to postpone the interview with Oprah that attacked the family that welcomed Meghan into their family while Phil was ill in hospital so people will think she shouldn’t come to the funeral

You are aware of what a pre-recorded interview is, right? You are aware that it wasn't live? That it wasn't Harry or Meghan's decision when to air it, because it's down to the channel to manage their own scheduling. It was ITV's choice to buy the interview from the channel in the US and air it when they did, also. To blame the couple for that is ridiculous.


He wasn't even cold before people were already making it about Meghan and what she will do. Just shows the level of obsession.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the sense of ownership the public feels when it comes to the royals is abusive as hell, we treat Meghan like **** because she got away and we ultimately hate that she's not under our thumb, anymore.

[Tom4784]

No class whatsoever shown by Harry and Meghan attacking his family in public.

You are lying about the details of a widely spread interview to attack someone who has just lost their grandparent. I don't think you should be talking about class right now.

:joker:...just like Meghan did.

Again, as I said to Sheriff, you're not lying to me since I see the truth, you're only lying to yourself by pretending that something happened when it did not. That interview and various clips of it have been shared millions of time, it's pointless to lie about it.

[Marsh.]

its not too hard to keep up

all we know is she is due summer

if its at the start she will be waddling

if its at the end she wont be heavily pregnant at the moment

summer lasts 3 months

Like I said, keep tugging.

[rusticgal]

You are lying about the details of a widely spread interview to attack someone who has just lost their grandparent. I don't think you should be talking about class right now.



Again, as I said to Sheriff, you're not lying to me since I see the truth, you're only lying to yourself by pretending that something happened when it did not. That interview and various clips of it have been shared millions of time, it's pointless to lie about it.


No one is attacking anyone...get a grip please. Just because Philip has died it doesnt stop people having an opinion. :laugh:

We have all seen the lies with our own eyes...you are just in denial.

[hijaxers]

No one is attacking anyone...get a grip please. Just because Philip has died it doesnt stop people having an opinion. :laugh:

We have all seen the lies with our own eyes...you are just in denial.

Yes i agree and their tribute to his grandfather is shambolic.

[Tom4784]

No one is attacking anyone...get a grip please. Just because Philip has died it doesnt stop people having an opinion. :laugh:

You're using that death to disparage Harry and Meghan who are likely grieving right now. They are the ones, along with the rest of the royal family, who have lost someone. We haven't, Prince Phillip was not our family. We did not know him, we do not know them. It's just grim how people of this country act like they do when they do not and they use their imaginary 'knowledge' to attack a family that are suffering right now. It's grim, deluded and abusive.

Is it time to remind you how freedom of speech works again? It's a two way street, you can have an opinion, and so can I, my opinions on your opinion are not denial of your freedom of speech but acting like it is, is an attempt to diminish my own right to respond.

[Tom4784]

Yes i agree and their tribute to his grandfather is shambolic.

Tell me, if a family on your street lost someone, would you judge them for how they grieved? Would you act like their tributes, whatever they would be, were 'shambolic?'

No, you likely wouldn't, because any decent person would allow people to grieve in their own way, to pay tribute how they believe is right, so what makes the Royal Family any different?

[LukeB]

You are lying about the details of a widely spread interview to attack someone who has just lost their grandparent. I don't think you should be talking about class right now.

Again, as I said to Sheriff, you're not lying to me since I see the truth, you're only lying to yourself by pretending that something happened when it did not. That interview and various clips of it have been shared millions of time, it's pointless to lie about it.

:clap1:

It's quite funny seeing others talk about class when people have been quite nasty towards Meghan and Harry and constantly bash her. The most vile thing is though people have stoop so low to say stuff about her mental health and said she's lying about suicidal without any evidence other than the fact they hate her. Not like you can prove someone is lying about mental health since it's an invisable illness. it's all quite hypocritical

- Haters criticised Meghan for accusing the royal family of racism but they are accusing her of lying about mental health. So fumed about accusations when they have done the exact same thing but worst.

- freedom of speech - whenever media and Piers Morgan continue to bully Meghan and Harry and they say some awful things their actions is always excused with freedom of speech but Meghan isn't allowed freedom of speech. the haters moan about cancel culture but they are also trying to cancel Meghan and Harry.

[Nicky91]

:clap1:

It's quite funny seeing others talk about class when people have been quite nasty towards Meghan and Harry and constantly bash her. The most vile thing is though people have stoop so low to say stuff about her mental health and said she's lying about suicidal without any evidence other than the fact they hate her. Not like you can prove someone is lying about mental health since it's an invisable illness. it's all quite hypocritical

- Haters criticised Meghan for accusing the royal family of racism but they are accusing her of lying about mental health. So fumed about accusations when they have done the exact same thing but worst.

- freedom of speech - whenever media and Piers Morgan continue to bully Meghan and Harry and they say some awful things their actions is always excused with freedom of speech but Meghan isn't allowed freedom of speech. the haters moan about cancel culture but they are also trying to cancel Meghan and Harry.

freedom of speech should be allowed for both sides, yes you have a good point here Luke

[Jordan.]

Yes i agree and their tribute to his grandfather is shambolic.

What a gross comment. It might be easy for you to chalk up a faux tribute to someone you don't know but to the person actually grieving it's not always easy to find the right words immediately.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Meghan or Harry didn’t care enough about Phil to postpone the interview with Oprah that attacked the family that welcomed Meghan into their family while Phil was ill in hospital so people will think she shouldn’t come to the funeral

The GBP are rarely wrong and they have got it bang on again. Its the Queen i worry for but at least she has one less worry going forward. WHich is a blessing.

[jet]

No one is attacking anyone...get a grip please. Just because Philip has died it doesnt stop people having an opinion. :laugh:

We have all seen the lies with our own eyes...you are just in denial.

It has to be pretend denial. Or maybe some are so invested in Meghan for some strange reason they just can't accept that she can do anything wrong, ever. It's quite weird really.

[jet]

Yes i agree and their tribute to his grandfather is shambolic.

I thought their 2 line 'tribute' had no warmth at all, as if he was practically a stranger.

[Niamh.]

I thought their 2 line 'tribute' had no warmth at all, as if he was practically a stranger.I mean are you actually trying to say Harry didn't love his grandfather? That's pretty low

[jet]

You're using that death to disparage Harry and Meghan who are likely grieving right now..

Meghan grieving? :joker: Philip seen right through her, he was nobody's fool, which was why Harry hadn't spoken to him since 2019.

[Ammi]

...I personally would say that their tribute on the Archwell website is an official tribute...grief is very private and personal, as are any other more personal words which aren’t for sharing...those are not something that were ever going to be displayed in any public way ....the royal institute words were quite formal as well, that would be quite an expected and understandable thing...

[jet]

I mean are you actually trying to say Harry didn't love his grandfather? That's pretty low

How would I know if he loved him or not? I can only say what my opinion of the tribute is. :shrug:

[jet]

Meghan or Harry didn’t care enough about Phil to postpone the interview with Oprah that attacked the family that welcomed Meghan into their family while Phil was ill in hospital so people will think she shouldn’t come to the funeral

She should be too ashamed to show her face, but I doubt it would be shame that would keep her away, it would be cowardice if anything.

[jet]

...I personally would say that their tribute on the Archwell website is an official tribute...grief is very private and personal, as are any other more personal words which aren’t for sharing...those are not something that were ever going to be displayed in any public way ....the royal institute words were quite formal as well, that would be quite an expected and understandable thing...

I thought Meghan and Harry were supposed to be different to, and applauded for not being formal like the 'stuffy' royals?

[Jordan.]

How would I know if he loved him or not? I can only say what my opinion of the tribute is. :shrug:

the same way you seem to know what all the other royals think and feel I imagine.

[Ammi]

I thought Meghan and Harry were supposed to be different to, and applauded for not being formal like the 'stuffy' royals?

...that isn’t an indication that they should be the same in any way but rather that Archwell is more their place of formality and not somewhere I’d expect to see any more personal words...it’s not about being ‘stuffy royals’ either, those are your words ...it’s about the appropriate time and place for formality and more personal words ...

[Ammi]

...anyways, I’m pretty confident that this time now and the funeral and who attends etc are something that the family/all of the family wish to be about their beloved Philip with all attention on him only and not on any media stirred up rubbish...so there really isn’t much else to say for me ...as is often the way but more so right now....

[Liam-]

Jfc, even being criticised for the way they grieve, do people want their heads on a stick or something?

[Cherie]

Harry is travelling solo, Meghan is not travelling on doctors advice