Strictly 2022 discussion thread

[hijaxers]

Pretty obvious Tony will be leaving.

[Denver]

Hamza was undermarked by atleast 10 points

[pontooner]

Hamza didn't finish his dance properly again. The finish of a dance is hugely important, it can't just be ignored - Craig spot on. Hamza is overrated, great musicality but when he does a waltz like Will did tonight (immaculate footwork) I'll be more convinced by him. Tony was dreadful. Ellie was wooden and is in trouble unless Tony is in the bottom two. Fleur was outstanding and deserved top spot. Molly's dance was as well, but lacked Rhumba content - a couple of New Yorkers but not a single Rhumb basic, nevertheless, was a great dance.

[Lewismacfarlane]

I actually thought kym was stunning tonight as a premature child I am extremely grateful for kym doing that

[Mystic Mock]

My favourite dance on the night was Fleur closely followed by Hamza.

My least favourite dance went to either Tyler or Will tbh, Will for just having a dance that I'm not personally interested in, and Tyler for just not doing enough with the Paso imo.

Although I do appreciate someone actually attempting the Paso Doble this series.

[Mystic Mock]

It's a shame Mollie isn't getting public support. She's the best female.

Without meaning to be disrespectful to the people that don't like Molly, but the public can have strange taste sometimes imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Hamza was undermarked by atleast 10 points

Hamza definitely had the most unique dance of the night imo, and did it well.

However I do agree with the judges that Fleur did the better dancing overall.

[Strictly Jake]

Loved Hamza and Jowitas performance tonight. Been supporting him since the Ecuador routine. And now it's fully cemented it for me. He is my winner this year

[GoldHeart]

Fleur: Wow hands down the best of the night!!! :cheer2:,
Amazing pure carnival vibes & joy !!! .

Hamza: Fantastic & exciting ,and one of his best ...I just love his energy & charisma :clap1: .

Molly: Consistent & elegant , another beautiful dance and the chemistry Molly & Carlos have is lovely :) .

Helen: A good performance,but she looked nervous & tense. But still well executed,but I wish she throws more energy and loosened up more.

Tyler: I was a bit underwhelmed ,was ok but just didn't blow me away. This wasn't Tyler's best .

Will: Fairly decent , I hope he continues to relax and adjust his frame. But overall nice .

Tony: officially the weakest dancer in the competition, no improvement . Katya was talking/ mouthing him through the steps . That Roly poly was his best part .

Kim: Another sweet performance,I noticed a mistake but was still a really good dance.

Ellie T. Wooden & very basic, I didn't enjoy much about the dance.

My favourite's were Fleur , Hamza & Molly :) .

[Vanessa]

Would love to see a paso from Will. He has the right intensity for it and could be spectacular.

[Vanessa]

Hamza does nothing for me. Last night he was overscored. Fleur, Molly and Will were miles better than him in my opinion.

[Mystic Mock]

Would love to see a paso from Will. He has the right intensity for it and could be spectacular.

I agree with you on that.

For some reason he keeps being held back from doing a dance that could be a show stealer for him.

[Nicky91]

Hamza: should've been perfect 40, Craig pretending to be an expert of african dancing :idc:

Will: omg so emotional :love: lovely tribute of him to his dad, such a simple and elegant waltz

Fleur: the title is hot hot hot but it kinda left me cold, i understand now why public doesn't like her that much, Vito is soooooo charismatic though

Molly: public should show her more love big time, she's so sweet and so talented, this was one of best rumba's i've seen so far, understandable from the king of rumba

Kym: underscored for my liking, what a magic moment, would love to see it again in the final! simple, slick, charming, emotional, yass queen

Helen: lacked hip action in places, more like dancing by numbers which shouldn't be in salsa, where every salsa move needs to feel natural, more genuine, this was too forced, overscored again

Tyler: same as Helen, quite stiff, stomping around like a boxer, thanks craig, overscored a shame as i LUV Dianne a lot, i wanted it to be loads better

Ellie T: surprisingly good, from one tall person to another, RESPECT :clap1: this was a fab performance

Tony: i luv the roly poly thingy, i agree with shirley, i could also see the kick ball change, and the difference in kicks and flicks, underscored again, but i don't care, whatever happens he will always be the most legendary contestant for me, but i just want him to make it to blackpool



my ranking last night looked a bit like this

1. Hamza
2. Kym
3. Will
4. Molly
5. Tony
6. Ellie T
7. Fleur
8. Helen
9. Tyler

[Vanessa]

I agree with you on that.

For some reason he keeps being held back from doing a dance that could be a show stealer for him.

Also, a Blackpool paso is even better. The production is bigger and they will have dancers as well.

[Vanessa]

For me Will, Molly and Fleur were equally outstanding.
I knew Will had it in him, that was a dance worthy of the final.

[Nicky91]

i'm late to the party but i'm beginning to like Will now


also what a cute photo of him and his dad :love:



Shirley spoke of her own good relationship with her son Mark, @Nessa have you seen some of his performances on DWTS?

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this was his Super Mario Bros inspired freestyle choreo for Duck Dynasty's Sadie Robertson


and he this year made his comeback there, for tiktokker Charli D'Amelio

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their contemporary


and their jazz, seems familiar (Max & Dianne CC here maybe)

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[Nicky91]

and her protegé Derek Hough is now a judge (before that recordholder of most wins as a pro there)

[Vanessa]

Beautiful remembrance opening dance :love:

[Vanessa]

Fleur and Vito have couples choice for Blackpool. This could be epic!

[Vanessa]

Tony. What a lovely man he is. I'll miss him :love:

[joeysteele]

Maybe the suspicious side of me only but not a hint or mention of any so called injury re Tony until just before the dance off.

Immaterial my thoughts however as he was off home no matter how he performed in the dance again.
So best of luck in the future to him.

[Vanessa]

So excited for Blackpool. I've been to the Tower Balleom and it is AMAZING!

[pontooner]

Unless Tyler pulls out a stormer next week or he could be gone, although Beeb will want to try keep him in with Ellie out. Otherwise, it's 5 women and 2 men with the risk to Hamza from a weak ballroom dance or Argentine Tango. Will is the best ballroom dancer of the 3 men left. Ellie and Tyler in the dance-off next week...

[Nicky91]

tomorrow the final, who will win the 20th series


contenders to win are Hamza, Fleur, Molly, or the ultimate underdog Ellie ''the GOAT comedian'' Taylor

[Nicky91]

in Blackpool Grand Final show

tonight at 7.45pm on BBC One

From the sprung dance floor to the stunning ceiling, this venue is not only a beautiful setting for tonight's show, but the spiritual home of all things dance. So what better place is there for our couples to perform their fabulous routines?

[Kate!]

in Blackpool Grand Final show

tonight at 7.45pm on BBC One

From the sprung dance floor to the stunning ceiling, this venue is not only a beautiful setting for tonight's show, but the spiritual home of all things dance. So what better place is there for our couples to perform their fabulous routines?

Stop bloody trolling Nicky. Fgs. The final isn't for a few weeks.

[Strictly Jake]

Why is it on so late tonight?!

[Strictly Jake]

tomorrow the final, who will win the 20th series


contenders to win are Hamza, Fleur, Molly, or the ultimate underdog Ellie ''the GOAT comedian'' Taylor

But...it's not the final...so stop being so strange

[Vanessa]

Enjoy Blackpool everyone. It's going to be epic!:dance:

[Vanessa]

Great opening dance from Hamza. I enjoyed that.

[Vanessa]

I want everyone to smash it tonight. Then it's in the hands of the public.

[hijaxers]

Enjoy Blackpool everyone. It's going to be epic!:dance:

Well i thought the pro dancers was a right mess and over busy ~ awful.

[Vanessa]

The Paso needs traditional music. That song for me doesn't work.
Mollie' jive was great.

[hijaxers]

Great opening dance from Hamza. I enjoyed that.

Yep that was very elegant and Astair like.

[Vanessa]

Tyler on the rollercoaster :joker::joker:

[hijaxers]

The Paso needs traditional music. That song for me doesn't work.
Mollie' jive was great.

You're right Vanessa song was awful and did not suit the dance ~ dance was good though.

[Vanessa]

Fleur! That was incredible! Woooooooo :dance:

[Vanessa]

Omg Will was fantastic! I can't stop dancing :cheer2:

[Mystic Mock]

My favourite dance on the night went to Fleur.

Tbh at this point she is having the most iconic dances of the series imo, I definitely like her dancing more than singing.:laugh:

Definitely Helen's best week as well which was nice to see.

I was disappointed in Molly & Kym's performances, Molly slowed the Jive down which was disappointing, and Kym's Music didn't fit the Paso at all, which tbf I get is more of a flaw with production rather than with how Kym danced.

[joeysteele]

My favourite dance on the night went to Fleur.

Tbh at this point she is having the most iconic dances of the series imo, I definitely like her dancing more than singing.:laugh:

Definitely Helen's best week as well which was nice to see.

I was disappointed in Molly & Kym's performances, Molly slowed the Jive down which was disappointing, and Kym's Music didn't fit the Paso at all, which tbf I get is more of a flaw with production rather than with how Kym danced.

Helen and Fleur for me too.

I didn't like the music for Kym but she danced it really good for me.

The men were not so good at all tonight in my view.

[Mystic Mock]

Helen and Fleur for me too.

I didn't like the music for Kym but she danced it really good for me.

The men were not so good at all tonight in my view.

Oh Kym probably did the best with what she had, I will be fair on that.

I personally liked Will's routine, Hamza's was kinda forgettable so I will agree with you on that, and Tyler weirdly just can't up his game from how he started the series, it's just always at that one level imo.

[Cherie]

Fleur and Helen, Hamza was great too

Got to be Kim and Ellie bottom 2

[Kate!]

Fleur and Helen, Hamza was great too

Got to be Kim and Ellie bottom 2

Yes and Ellie will go.

[Vanessa]

Everyone was brilliant tonight. Loved Will samba. Those hips : wow :flutter:

[GoldHeart]

Everyone was bringing it in Blackpool , all performances raised the bar wow !!

Fleur: BEST of the night just WOW at everything from the technique to the sassy fierce energy, completely on point !! :clap1: :cheer2:

Hamza: A complete classy elegant gentleman , stunning AS and equally beautiful lift at the end :love:

Tyler: He really upped his game , it's probably my favourite of his dances . The energy, hips and the lifts were cool and exciting pure disco vibes :love:.

Will : Decent Samba , and Will looked so in tune with his partner more so than other weeks . So much hip action and clean footwork . So well done to him.

Kim: very odd song choices , but Kim does her usual consistent decent performance. Paso was dramatic and strong.

Helen: Another one who's really upped their game this week WOW , Helen did such a perfect Quickstep . I really really liked this !! . Amazing footwork and very lively and fun :) .

Molly: Carlos alone has so much energy , and together they are magic . I really enjoyed this Jive . It was like i was watching a throwback dance a thon . Plenty of joy and fun .


Ellie T: Was one of her better dances , really sweet and elegant. Johannes has such good choreography.

[pontooner]

The bar was raised tonight but even so the overmarking is getting ridiculous. Fleur worthy of top spot but then I hate couple's choice.

A good format change for the show would be for everyone to do a ballroom dance at Blackpool - clue is in the name - the Tower Ballroom. We had one classic ballroom dance with no lifts - Helen's Quickstep. No waltz at the ballroom is a shocking omission. Ballroom Tango really covers the floor as well if done properly.

I'm getting a bit bored of it this year, I think the glitterball winner is already concluded. Shirley is pushing for Hamza so much now - she even appeared to be telling Craig to mark him up just after his Smooth had finished. It was good but not a 10.

[Nicky91]

Congrats Fleur & Vito with this glitterball win last night :D

[GoldHeart]

Congrats Fleur & Vito with this glitterball win last night :D

Fleur IS a winner in my opinion ,I know you're trolling though.

[Vanessa]

Fleur and Vito have the rumba.
Ellie and JoJo have the jive
Someone is doing an Argentine tango. Maybe Hamza?
Will maybe foxtrot? He's excellent at ballroom.

[Nicky91]

Fleur, Molly, Kym all have my support too


and also Hamza, and Will has been growing on me a lot now, he might be a non-dancer, but he tries the best he can and it is nice to see, that samba last week was quite entertaining and decent to follow up after that perfect 40 from Fleur




Ellie & JoJo have to leave this week tbh but not sure if they will, i am worried for Kym otherwise :( i like Kym & Graz's partnership, from morning live colleagues to becoming good friends as a dance couple :D

[Vanessa]

Kim has tested positive for COVID. Bad timing.

[pontooner]

Kim has tested positive for COVID. Bad timing.

For who though? The second weakest dancer left and she has a bye to the next round. So Ellie probably has to avoid the dance off to stay in. If Ellie avoids the dance off then, one of the top 5 goes out.

[Mystic Mock]

For who though? The second weakest dancer left and she has a bye to the next round. So Ellie probably has to avoid the dance off to stay in. If Ellie avoids the dance off then, one of the top 5 goes out.

Tbf I'd say that Kym is better than Helen.

Helen does not have a dance as good as Kym's AT imo.

[GoldHeart]

Tbf I'd say that Kym is better than Helen.

Helen does not have a dance as good as Kym's AT imo.

Helen's quickstep was her best dance .

[Mystic Mock]

Helen's quickstep was her best dance .

I agree with that tbf.

I feel personally though that Kym's AT is better.

[Nicky91]

Helen's quickstep was her best dance .

what was so good about that then?


didn't seem any different from any other quickstep :shrug:


but yeah Helen got sympathy factor of course because of her recent divorce from that most hated man now in britain it seems (how it comes across in the media's)



Helen is ''dull dull dull'' for me, as dull as the likes of Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Kara Tointon were for me personally, also easy finalist material because of judges hype who overlook any mistakes all the time





my preferred final 4 would be now

Hamza, Fleur, Molly and one of Kym or Will (not sure because both are progressing equally for me)

[Vanessa]

Will has the Charleston! Finally! A showstopper! This is going to be epic! :cheer2:

[Vanessa]

We haven't had any training footage at all this week. What's going on?:fist:

[Mystic Mock]

Will has the Charleston! Finally! A showstopper! This is going to be epic! :cheer2:

Hopefully he'll do well with it.:dance:

[Vanessa]

Hopefully he'll do well with it.:dance:

Looks like a Charleston similar to the one Daisy and Alijaz did. White gloves and shoes, maybe? I think Will is going to smash it.

[Nicky91]

i'm going to record next weeks musicals week, since that being on a friday (and that is masked singer night for me so)


all these weird time slots now (german RTL would nevah have problems like these, but then again they aren't a national broadcaster so they don't have this extra stress)

[Strictly Jake]

Felt a bit of a dull episode tonight. Also I thought Molly was the best of the night but got criminally underscored! As much as I love Hamza it wasn't deserving of 10s! And I don't get how Ellie is still there

[Vanessa]

Loved Will and Nancy Charleston. Will top of the leader board. I'm so happy tonight!:dance::cheer2:

[Mystic Mock]

For me on the night I thought that Molly was the best, and slightly underscored considering her terrible dance last week got the same score off the judges.

Will was good, but was more of a Jive than a Charleston imo.

Fleur did well, but she's better suited to other dances.

Hamza was bad imo, and was definitely overscored this week. No way should that have got two 10's.

And Helen & Ellie T were both dreadful this week, they should definitely be the bottom two if the public were voting fairly as they were clearly behind everyone else.

[joeysteele]

For me on the night I thought that Molly was the best, and slightly underscored considering her terrible dance last week got the same score off the judges.

Will was good, but was more of a Jive than a Charleston imo.

Fleur did well, but she's better suited to other dances.

Hamza was bad imo, and was definitely overscored this week. No way should that have got two 10's.

And Helen & Ellie T were both dreadful this week, they should definitely be the bottom two if the public were voting fairly as they were clearly behind everyone else.


I agree with all that.
I couldn't have put it better.

[GoldHeart]

Fleur: I saw so many amazing things in this Rumba , if there was mistakes ...well it wasn't noticeable to me . It just felt like such intense chemistry and passion and sharp leg work. The ending had such heat aswell between Fleur & Vito :love: . 10


Molly: Another consistent dramatic stunning performance, great partnership between Carlos & Molly . The Tango was really smooth & on point . 10

Will : I didn't like the music choice , felt really odd for a Charleston . But another decent routine. 8

Helen: Had it's quirkiness but wasn't her best , last week was so spectacular. But this week it felt like she was holding back ... and was a bit weak in places. i'd give it a 7

Hamza: He plays to his strengths which are lifts and good frame , and dramatic acting . Even at the end it felt like they were staying in character ...just gazing in eachother's eyes . But was fairly decent ... . 8

Ellie T : Very basic , Johannes made it a fun jive i guess . But technically this just wasn't that good. 6

[Nicky91]

Will: best of the night 10 innovative, refreshing, fun take on the charleston

Molly: deathslotted for a reason, it left me cold sadly, Carlos's choreo here was good, but now i expect perfection from a trained dancer like her, and this wasn't perfect 7

Ellie T: fun jive, and surprisingly very fast moments for a tall girl like her, great 9

Fleur: it was a flawless rumba, perfect 10

Hamza: Anton bore the **** off, what do you know about argentine tango's anyway, it is not a ballroom so not in your expertise area, Hamza did great and the chemistry was phenomenal, any mark i can give you is probably too low, best of the series all time 1000

Helen: FINALLY Helen getting her first ever critiques, amazing to see, such a wooden samba, thank you judges hallelujah, god bless all 3 of you minus deluded Anton, this was bad, very bad 2

[Vanessa]

Hamza was overmarked. That AT did not deserve 10s. Mollie and Will were both fantastic.
Mollie slightly underscored.

[Vanessa]

I didn't like Helen samba as well. It was too stiff.
Ellie was ok, but not as good as the others.
Wasn't keen on Fleur rumba either.

[Nicky91]

hopefully Helen eliminated tonight, can't stand that woman


Molly vs Helen hopefully

[Mystic Mock]

Hamza was overmarked. That AT did not deserve 10s. Mollie and Will were both fantastic.
Mollie slightly underscored.

I agree 100%

[Vanessa]

hopefully Helen eliminated tonight, can't stand that woman


Molly vs Helen hopefully

I like her, but her Latin Isn't great.

[Nicky91]

i'm manifesting a Patrick Grant participation for 2023, that sewing bee judge would be brilliant and a great older partner for Amy too i think

[Vanessa]

Next week is Musical Week. I'm so excited for that!

[Vanessa]

Ellie and Johannes both in tears. This is so emotional :bawling:

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh Ellie T was really starting to fall behind the pack.

[GoldHeart]

Tbh Ellie T was really starting to fall behind the pack.

She was the weakest .

[joeysteele]

Tbh Ellie T was really starting to fall behind the pack.

I agree too.
She was the worst on Saturday.

[Nicky91]

Tbh Ellie T was really starting to fall behind the pack.

not that much though, only 4 points behind Helen


but now i see that dull non-celeb Helen woman making the final sadly :rolleyes: same sympathy storyline as Kara Tointon, Abbey Clancy, Sophie Ellis-Bextor had :idc:


and Helen will be the winner too i fear :yuk:

[Vanessa]

Omg apparently Will has Miss Saigon! Really hope it's true. One of my favourite musicals. It's brilliant and I can already see Will and Nancy as the main characters!

[Lewismacfarlane]

6th fluer and Vito
5th molly and Carlos
4th kym and graziano
3rd will and Nancy
2nd Helen and gorka
1st hamza and jowita

[pontooner]

Just watched on catch-up. Right result, Ellie is way off the pace at this stage. Fleur didn't deserve to be in the dance-off, Hamza should have been in it. Farcical marking for the Argentine Tango. Comments from Craig, who is the only one who knows anything about it, were spot on, but then he gave it an 8 - clearly being pressured by Shirley. The Argentine Tango is just as much a walking dance as the ballroom Tango, but with an A shaped embrace instead of a V shape. Lifts should look totally seamless and be brief and secondary to an embrace-led dance. Leader ganchos are unnecessary; they can be put in but need to be really sharp (which they weren't). Like the all-male Argentine Tango last year (which Craig actually overmarked) this looked like a clunky series of lifts and poses and not a dance. Molly should have been top, then Fleur. Will and Helen looked similar level this week. No matter the quality of the dances the judges, especially Shirley, seem determined to do their best to get 2 men in the final.

[Mystic Mock]

Just watched on catch-up. Right result, Ellie is way off the pace at this stage. Fleur didn't deserve to be in the dance-off, Hamza should have been in it. Farcical marking for the Argentine Tango. Comments from Craig, who is the only one who knows anything about it, were spot on, but then he gave it an 8 - clearly being pressured by Shirley. The Argentine Tango is just as much a walking dance as the ballroom Tango, but with an A shaped embrace instead of a V shape. Lifts should look totally seamless and be brief and secondary to an embrace-led dance. Leader ganchos are unnecessary; they can be put in but need to be really sharp (which they weren't). Like the all-male Argentine Tango last year (which Craig actually overmarked) this looked like a clunky series of lifts and poses and not a dance. Molly should have been top, then Fleur. Will and Helen looked similar level this week. No matter the quality of the dances the judges, especially Shirley, seem determined to do their best to get 2 men in the final.

I agree with you on Hamza's AT, it was mediocre at best imo.

I remember really liking John's last year though, but then I remember thinking that him, AJ & Rhys were the ones that it should've been between to win.

[Mystic Mock]

Molly has the Charleston according to Wikipedia.

[Nicky91]

yes Molly has Georgia & Gio's charleston song :love:


Kym dancing cha cha to Fame :flutter:



looking forward to watching it saturday (i can't miss masked singer honestly, our series 4 is so so good, best one yet)

[Strictly Jake]

What's the Christmas strictly theme this time as we have confirmed Ricky and Rosie Ramsay. Is it past contestants other halves? As Melvin has already done strictly (his other half in the same sense if Ant n Dec) and won the Xmas one and Chris Ramsay has already done strictly too

[Nicky91]

if i have to rank my lets dance germany favourites


1. Lili Paul-Roncalli & Massimo Sinato :lovedup: i mean Lili is just perfect, so humble, so likeable yet coming from such a worldfamous circus family, and so so talented

2. Oliver Pocher & Christina Luft :love: he was the novelty act yes but he didn't act like the clown all the time just bc he is a comedian, a good mix of dance content with entertainment, his freddie mercury dressup for paso doble remains forever iconic

3. Jimi Blue Ochsenknecht & Renata Lusin :bawling: should've won if not for his knee injury, his paso to another one bites the dust amazing

4. Ingolf Luck & Ekaterina Leonova 62 yrs old and slaying as if he is in his 30's, debbie mcgee who? am happy he won too, with his shrek showdance

5. Pascal Hens & Ekaterina Leonova, lol at production trying to stitch Ekat up first failing with oldest and then with by far the tallest male ever taken part so far, and again failing, because he also is soooo light on his feet and such a lovely personality to go with that

6. Ulrika von der Groeben & Valentin Lusin, she is a duffer but such a cute partnership this was

7. Ailton & Isabel Edvardsson, he couldn't dance quite well but am glad he was able to share a traditional brazilian salsa

8. Rurik Gislason & Renata Lusin, dancing thor good fun and his magic moment tribute to his recently passed away mom was so emotional

9. Rene Casselly & Kathrin Menzinger, his circus/ninja warrior moves so entertaining, him talking to his elephants is so funny, and overall a deserving winner

10. Nicolas Puschmann & Vadim Garbuzov, the greatest same-sex partnership so far, there i said it, and Vadim is with every right King Choreo


honorable mention: Jan Hofer & Christina Luft, MR Tageschau doing this show at the age of 69, such a cute partnership as if a grandfather and granddaughter dancing together :flutter: his Jive wasn't bad at all for a man his age to forever young (baseballs version)


strictly had some great partnerships too, but RTL production also are doing amazingly well at pairing them up

[Vanessa]

One hour pre show tonight with Ryan.

[GoldHeart]

Strictly is on tonight!?? Why ?

[Vanessa]

Strictly is on tonight!?? Why ?

They moved it because of the football.

[Vanessa]

Denise! I forgot she did the show ages ago!

[Vanessa]

Will and Molly look gorgeous tonight :love:

[GoldHeart]

They moved it because of the football.

Oh for goodness sake ,I forgot about that. Someone is going home a day early then !.

[Vanessa]

Omg in tears. That was so beautiful from Will and Nancy :bawling:

[Strictly Jake]

What a fantastic show that was. I loved every single dance!!!!!

[Liam-]

Helen was absolutely ROBBED of a 40

[pontooner]

Helen was absolutely ROBBED of a 40

There are far too many 10s doled out, but that dance was pro standard I agree.

[Mystic Mock]

Imo I thought that there were four good performances, one average performance, and one bad performance.

Good:
Will
Fleur
Molly
Helen - A little bit overscored though.

Average:
Hamza - Again overscored.

Bad:
Kym

[Mystic Mock]

Helen was absolutely ROBBED of a 40

Better dances this series didn't get a 40 tbf.

[Vanessa]

Hamza is not impressing me at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Helen won instead. She's way better than he is.

[GoldHeart]

I haven't watched the dances back yet ,but just checked the scores..... Marvelous I guess it's goodbye to Fleur or Molly then ,as they're in the weird part of the leaderboard:bored: :bawling: . Kim will get sympathy votes.

[GoldHeart]

Fleur: A complete class stunning quickstep , i loved every bit of it . And i enjoyed her bubbly personality she brought to it :love: .

Molly : Traditional flapper girl 1920's Charleston , very stylish and beautiful. Brilliant performance :)


Hamza : I really liked it , especially the solo bit he had. The hips and energy were on point . The Lion King song had me :bawling: aswell lol ... and makes me want to watch Lion King LIVE in the theatre.

Helen: Her transformation is incredible , much more confidence and more slick movements, a good couples choice dance . The audience's reaction spoke volumes. You can tell people want her to do well .

Will: A sweet romantic Foxtrot , Will performed decently... can see he's really trying.

Kim: I wanted to like this , and parts of it was fine/ok .... but it felt slowed down and like it needed more energy and excitement and speed. Still a nice tribute to Irene Cara though x .

[Vanessa]

Helen and Will are actually improving. I think Hamza is overrated, he does nothing for me.
Molly Charleston was good, but for me Georgia and Gio one was far superior.
Will was fantastic, if he had one more day he would have easily got a perfect score.
Loved Helen couple choice, but Gorka waa annoying me a bit with the posing. Don't ruin it for her:fist:
Fleur was AMAZING, Kim was ok.

[Nicky91]

ok my thoughts

Molly: amazing charleston, i feel so incredibly sad for her, and i kinda wish she wasn't honest about having went to Sylvia Young school, i find her dancing so so well, such a genuine fun and sweet partnership she has with Carlos too, loved her giving some credits to other newbie Lauren as well in backings

Hamza: weird music choice for a samba but a very cool performance, especially with the lion projection at the end, very convincingly played for a non-actor too

Kym: :bawling: NOT MY MILF leaving this week :bawling: she looked so HOT and Confident, and selled the part well, and did the now late Irene Cara very much justice, this was divine

Will: good on him for getting that whatever that three step thingy is right, seems like a very difficult move, good on him a pure novice for smashing that step, such a simplistic yet elegant and classy and good looking ballroom routine, yup i liked it

Helen: overrated as hell, i prefer Faye & Gio's jazz to fever big time over this repetitive one, i still find her also oh so dull, and don't lie why you signed to the show in your VT hun, it's more because your husband cheated on you, and you finally having had the time being you know NOT PREGNANT ;)

Fleur: didn't do much for me this routine, as Len would say about the beginning, too much faffing around going on, taking too long to get down the stairs, everyone else had plenty of dance content, the quickstep parts here were nice but did they blend in well to the rest of the routine, no i didn't think so, whereas everyone else had more complete performances (dance content and musicals content combo wise)




my preferred dance off would've been Fleur vs Helen i guess, but more based on who i least enjoyed watching this particular week



and Molly for the 4th time in the dance off, this is literally called bullying over her having been honest about her dance training :bawling:

[Nicky91]

was bopping though during Fleur's training vt, sweden eurovision 2020 song as background music, the mamas move :love:

[Vanessa]

I think it's very obvious that Molly has a lot of dancing experience.
I don't hold it against her, Helen and Hamza aren't novices either.
Will has said he isn't dance trained, I think Fleur has a little bit.

[pontooner]

Weakest dancers have gone in the last two weeks.

Next week will be really interesting. Molly's lack of public appeal (not sure why) will probably see her in the dance off again. Shirley wants Hamza in the final come what may, she'll want him kept out of a dance off v Molly where the other judges could eliminate him before her casting vote.

Do we know what dances everyone is doing next week?

[Liam-]

Can’t wait for Fleur and Molly to be in the dance-off next week, we’ll finally get rid of one of the overrated dead wood

[Vanessa]

Weakest dancers have gone in the last two weeks.

Next week will be really interesting. Molly's lack of public appeal (not sure why) will probably see her in the dance off again. Shirley wants Hamza in the final come what may, she'll want him kept out of a dance off v Molly where the other judges could eliminate him before her casting vote.
Do we know what dances everyone is doing next week?
Hamza : Charleston
Will : couples choice. 90s inspired.

[Vanessa]

Can’t wait for Fleur and Molly to be in the dance-off next week, we’ll finally get rid of one of the overrated dead wood

I prefer Fleur, I really like her.
Molly is a nice girl, but I find her and Carlos rather dull.

[pontooner]

Hamza : Charleston
Will : couples choice. 90s inspired.

If I were a pro discussing final dance choices with the producers I'd be thinking tactically as follows:-

Hamza has not done a Waltz or Viennese yet. His second dance will have to be one of those two or the Paso. He's now the weakest of the remaining dancers but probably just needs to survive next week to win. Marked properly I'd expect him to struggle with the waltzes. He will probably do the Paso so he can chuck in a load of out-of-hold posing.

Will hasn't done either Tango or the Paso. He should do the Paso or the ballroom Tango. Few male celebs can make a decent fist of the Argentine

Helen hasn't done the Argentine Tango - I'd be confident of her doing a great job of that with the right choreography. Also not done the Waltz, Tango or Rumba. Out of those probably the Waltz - can't see the producers allowing both Tangos.

Molly hasn't done the Paso, Salsa, Viennese or the Smooth. She's a great dancer and will handle all of those really well. She should be in the final.

Fleur hasn't done the Foxtrot, Tango, Paso or Charleston. Avoid the Foxtrot I'd say.

[AnnieK]

I prefer Fleur, I really like her.
Molly is a nice girl, but I find her and Carlos rather dull.

I really don't like Carlos....I think he's incredibly arrogant.

[Strictly Jake]

I think it's definitely between Fleur and Molly as to who makes the final. I'd rather Fleur go through but I do like Molly

[Mystic Mock]

ok my thoughts

Molly: amazing charleston, i feel so incredibly sad for her, and i kinda wish she wasn't honest about having went to Sylvia Young school, i find her dancing so so well, such a genuine fun and sweet partnership she has with Carlos too, loved her giving some credits to other newbie Lauren as well in backings

Hamza: weird music choice for a samba but a very cool performance, especially with the lion projection at the end, very convincingly played for a non-actor too

Kym: :bawling: NOT MY MILF leaving this week :bawling: she looked so HOT and Confident, and selled the part well, and did the now late Irene Cara very much justice, this was divine

Will: good on him for getting that whatever that three step thingy is right, seems like a very difficult move, good on him a pure novice for smashing that step, such a simplistic yet elegant and classy and good looking ballroom routine, yup i liked it

Helen: overrated as hell, i prefer Faye & Gio's jazz to fever big time over this repetitive one, i still find her also oh so dull, and don't lie why you signed to the show in your VT hun, it's more because your husband cheated on you, and you finally having had the time being you know NOT PREGNANT ;)

Fleur: didn't do much for me this routine, as Len would say about the beginning, too much faffing around going on, taking too long to get down the stairs, everyone else had plenty of dance content, the quickstep parts here were nice but did they blend in well to the rest of the routine, no i didn't think so, whereas everyone else had more complete performances (dance content and musicals content combo wise)




my preferred dance off would've been Fleur vs Helen i guess, but more based on who i least enjoyed watching this particular week



and Molly for the 4th time in the dance off, this is literally called bullying over her having been honest about her dance training :bawling:

I don't agree with Molly's repeated bottom two trips (or the bizarre disconnect the public has with Fleur's dances) but it's not bullying because the public prefer the more average Hamza & Helen.

If anything the UK is doing it's usual thing of rooting for the underdog, which in this case will see the dancing quality drop like how the singing talent dropped on TXF, because talented contestants aren't gonna go onto either Show just to be voted into the bottom two every week. Especially a Celebrity.

In particular the last three series of Strictly doesn't seem to respect the technically gifted dancers enough, and I say that as someone that supported Bill Bailey in his year, but the Show cares way more about thematic winners nowadays than they ever do about the quality of the dancing.

I mean let's be honest Hamza & Helen are the two weakest dancers left in the competition, yet one of them is gonna win regardless of what the other three do.

[Mystic Mock]

Can’t wait for Fleur and Molly to be in the dance-off next week, we’ll finally get rid of one of the overrated dead wood

In fairness who would you say is better out of what's left?

[Vanessa]

I really don't like Carlos....I think he's incredibly arrogant.

Yes, I agree.
I think Vito is so much nicer I really like him.

[Vanessa]

I think Will would make a great paso or tango/at
So I don't mind which other dance he's doing.

[Nicky91]

I don't agree with Molly's repeated bottom two trips (or the bizarre disconnect the public has with Fleur's dances) but it's not bullying because the public prefer the more average Hamza & Helen.

If anything the UK is doing it's usual thing of rooting for the underdog, which in this case will see the dancing quality drop like how the singing talent dropped on TXF, because talented contestants aren't gonna go onto either Show just to be voted into the bottom two every week. Especially a Celebrity.

In particular the last three series of Strictly doesn't seem to respect the technically gifted dancers enough, and I say that as someone that supported Bill Bailey in his year, but the Show cares way more about thematic winners nowadays than they ever do about the quality of the dancing.

I mean let's be honest Hamza & Helen are the two weakest dancers left in the competition, yet one of them is gonna win regardless of what the other three do.

Bill Bailey wasn't an underdog, his musicality i already knew pre-launch show ;) simply because he is also a musician


if Hamza or Helen win, i am done with british strictly, and i solely will watch german lets dance, mainly because there the better dancers can win anyway

[Vanessa]

Im fine with Helen winning. But Hamza in my opinion does not deserve it.

[pontooner]

Im fine with Helen winning. But Hamza in my opinion does not deserve it.

He's not a bad dancer, and seems a really nice guy, but loads of male celebs over the years have been way better than him, and Shirley's gushing over-blown praise for him is now farcical - I want him to lose for that reason.

[GoldHeart]

He's not a bad dancer, and seems a really nice guy, but loads of male celebs over the years have been way better than him, and Shirley's gushing over-blown praise for him is now farcical - I want him to lose for that reason.

Hardly fair , when like you say he's a nice guy and he's a good dancer. Well I enjoy his dances.

It's not Hamza's fault that Shirley is a woman hating bitter old hag , blame Strictly for keeping her as a judge. I've made my views clear on this....even Len was more level headed & that's saying something! .

[GoldHeart]

Im fine with Helen winning. But Hamza in my opinion does not deserve it.

Why doesn't Hamza deserve it ?? , It's not his fault Shirley fawns over the men & harshly treats the women. Strictly should just ditch Shirley and get a new head judge ... preferably a fair non biased one who doesn't make a fool of themselves.

I know Fleur & Molly has no chance of winning,and you know they're my favourites. But I also like Hamza...so if he DID win I wouldn't mind. But I honestly think it's between Will & Helen anyway for the glitter ball.

I know you like Will ,but he hasn't blown me away . He had done some decent routines but he's not my favourite & he seems a bit overrated.

[Vanessa]

Why doesn't Hamza deserve it ?? , It's not his fault Shirley fawns over the men & harshly treats the women. Strictly should just ditch Shirley and get a new head judge ... preferably a fair non biased one who doesn't make a fool of themselves.

I know Fleur & Molly has no chance of winning,and you know they're my favourites. But I also like Hamza...so if he DID win I wouldn't mind. But I honestly think it's between Will & Helen anyway for the glitter ball.

I know you like Will ,but he hasn't blown me away . He had done some decent routines but he's not my favourite & he seems a bit overrated.

Yes, Shirley overscoring and overpraising Hamza is putting me off.
I like Will, for a non dancer he's doing brilliantly.

[pontooner]

Hardly fair , when like you say he's a nice guy and he's a good dancer. Well I enjoy his dances.

It's not Hamza's fault that Shirley is a woman hating bitter old hag , blame Strictly for keeping her as a judge. I've made my views clear on this....even Len was more level headed & that's saying something! .

She's a terrible head judge agreed. But as I said loads of male celebs have been better than Hamza and Will is one of them, so he doesn't deserve to win.

[Vanessa]

She's a terrible head judge agreed. But as I said loads of male celebs have been better than Hamza and Will is one of them, so he doesn't deserve to win.

I think Will and Helen are better than Hamza.
Id be happy with one of them winning.
They both have improved so much.

[Mystic Mock]

Bill Bailey wasn't an underdog, his musicality i already knew pre-launch show ;) simply because he is also a musician


if Hamza or Helen win, i am done with british strictly, and i solely will watch german lets dance, mainly because there the better dancers can win anyway

Bill was great I agree, but tbf so were Hrvy & Maisie, yet Maisie in particular was getting less votes than far weaker dancers like JJ & Ranvir.

And Bill in fairness did have the theme of being the older winner.

Kelvin was the "wildcard" winner.

Rose won because she was deaf.

And Hamza will win because of BLM being really in trend at the moment for TV to promote. And no TV Shows don't really care about BLM in terms of being morally righteous.

Unfortunately newer Strictly can't just let the contestant that the public just naturally likes win, nor is the dancing even remotely a factor for large swaths of the public.

[GoldHeart]

Bill was great I agree, but tbf so were Hrvy & Maisie, yet Maisie in particular was getting less votes than far weaker dancers like JJ & Ranvir.

And Bill in fairness did have the theme of being the older winner.

Kelvin was the "wildcard" winner.

Rose won because she was deaf.

And Hamza will win because of BLM being really in trend at the moment for TV to promote. And no TV Shows don't really care about BLM in terms of being morally righteous.

Unfortunately newer Strictly can't just let the contestant that the public just naturally likes win, nor is the dancing even remotely a factor for large swaths of the public.

But either way it's the public vote in the final that it's all based on , the public still decides who wins. The judges & producers don't have a say in it , or am I missing something?? .

I still think it's between Will & Helen . They clearly have a big fan base.

[GoldHeart]

I think Molly or Fleur deserve to win ,but we all know that's NOT HAPPENING.

[Liam-]

Correct because the public can see that they’ve been vastly overscored by the judges every week

[Cherie]

Helen for the win....that dance was off the scale

[Mystic Mock]

But either way it's the public vote in the final that it's all based on , the public still decides who wins. The judges & producers don't have a say in it , or am I missing something?? .

I still think it's between Will & Helen . They clearly have a big fan base.

Oh the Show doesn't rig the votes, because that would be illegal.

The Producers/Judges can lead the public to feel a certain way about contestants through VT's, choreography, Dance selection & song choices, plus judges comments.

And tbf we're all probably deceived to some extent depending on our own bias towards certain things.

[Mystic Mock]

Correct because the public can see that they’ve been vastly overscored by the judges every week

Tbf Molly mainly scores a 35 most weeks.:laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Correct because the public can see that they’ve been vastly overscored by the judges every week

What are you even talking about , Fleur & Molly have been in the dance off far too many times. Plus Shirley lemon face is biased towards the men .

Fleur & Molly have never been over scored... it's been the other way around ,you must be thinking of other contestants.

[GoldHeart]

Tbf Molly mainly scores a 35 most weeks.:laugh:

Apparently that's being "over scored " :rolleyes: ridiculous.

Anyway whatever happens I'm glad Fleur & Molly made it to the semi final :cheer2: .

[Mystic Mock]

Apparently that's being "over scored " :rolleyes: ridiculous.

Anyway whatever happens I'm glad Fleur & Molly made it to the semi final :cheer2: .

It's especially harsh when Hamza scores a 37 for farting out dances some weeks.:joker:

And Helen scored a 39 for a good dance imo, but nothing exceptional.

But maybe I'm being really harsh myself.

[Liam-]

Tbf Molly mainly scores a 35 most weeks.:laugh:

Yes and for most of her dances that’s over marked

What are you even talking about , Fleur & Molly have been in the dance off far too many times. Plus Shirley lemon face is biased towards the men .

Fleur & Molly have never been over scored... it's been the other way around ,you must be thinking of other contestants.

Nah, definitely thinking of the right two, Fleur’s couples choice getting a 40 was ludicrous

[Liam-]

Helen for the win....that dance was off the scale

Absolutely, likeable, talented and regularly overlooked by the judges

[GoldHeart]

Yes and for most of her dances that’s over marked



Nah, definitely thinking of the right two, Fleur’s couples choice getting a 40 was ludicrous

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[Mystic Mock]

Yes and for most of her dances that’s over marked



Nah, definitely thinking of the right two, Fleur’s couples choice getting a 40 was ludicrous

Fair enough on that.

But considering in this series we've seen James score a 32 & Ellie T joint topped the leaderboard one night, I do personally think it's harsh that Molly scoring a 35 is the score that you're zoning in on as odd.

And personally I feel like Fleur is the only dancer this series that has warranted getting a 40, and not just for the Couple's Choice but also the AT & Samba dances.

[Vanessa]

Helen for the win....that dance was off the scale

I'd be happy with her winning. Rather her than Hamza.

[AnnieK]

Helen for the win....that dance was off the scale

Completely agree

[Nicky91]

Absolutely, likeable, talented and regularly overlooked by the judges

Helen and overlooked by the judges :joker::joker::joker::joker:


UMM LOL, she is the judges pet, with a abbey clancy 2.0 ''journey'' :yuk: so predictable how production made a ''winners vt'' out of her couples choice



Helen is little miss perfect who can do nothing wrong with the judges ;)

[Nicky91]

pretty sure Helen will get two easy dances, and fake praise with overscorings again, another top of the leaderboard, wouldn't be surprised if a double 40


Helen does not have to work hard in training, Gorka has a easy ride to the glitterball this year :idc: not if it was up to me

[Mystic Mock]

Helen and overlooked by the judges :joker::joker::joker::joker:


UMM LOL, she is the judges pet, with a abbey clancy 2.0 ''journey'' :yuk: so predictable how production made a ''winners vt'' out of her couples choice



Helen is little miss perfect who can do nothing wrong with the judges ;)

I agree that Helen was overscored slightly in her last performance, but in fairness was still a good performance, especially compared to her usual standard.:laugh:

I personally feel like Hamza is the most overscored, he can score a 38 for average performances.

[Nicky91]

I agree that Helen was overscored slightly in her last performance, but in fairness was still a good performance, especially compared to her usual standard.:laugh:

I personally feel like Hamza is the most overscored, he can score a 38 for average performances.

her usual standard is with normal dances


this was just with a gimmicky nonsense non-dance



i already feel sad we have to endure 5 more performances from Helen :rolleyes: and me being robbed of potentially seeing Kym's magical american smooth again :bawling: :bawling:


**** off with vanilla contestants like Helen Skelton, Kara Tointon, Abbey Clancy :yuk:

[Nicky91]

why doesn't Helen dance to Cher's Believe

i mean LMAO quite fitting if you ask me, with her whole ''cheating husband'' sob story :joker:

[Nicky91]

a reminder due to the football there'll be no strictly tonight


so the liveshow will be tomorrow, and the results show will be on Monday


tomorrow 7:15 PM

monday 8:15 PM

[Nicky91]

exciting tonight!


expecting 10 strong performances

[Kate!]

Fleur :lovedup: that was outstanding. If she doesn't make the final I'll eat my hat.

[Kate!]

Lovely Helen. A beautiful performance.

[Kate!]

Great job from Hamza but he'll be overmarked again :rolleyes:

[joeysteele]

I actually wasn't keen on it.
Too much standing still for me at times.

Maybe need to watch it again.

Didn't measure up for me though.
He will be overmarked

[Kate!]

I actually wasn't keen on it.
Too much standing still for me at times.

Maybe need to watch it again.

Didn't measure up for me though.
He will be overmarked

Yes he was vastly overmarked. I swear if one of the girls leaves over him. Sigh.

[Kate!]

Magical Molly. I loved that.

[Kate!]

Will. It's like he's trying too hard, and not having fun. I couldn't get into it.

[Kate!]

My order of preference on first performances

1 Fleur
2 Helen
3 Molly
4 Hamza
5 Will

[Kate!]

Fleur again. As close to perfection as you can get.

[Kate!]

Helen. Elegant and precise but not as good as Fleur.

[Kate!]

Hamza. Sorry but this bored me. Zzzz

[joeysteele]

Oh dear I feel I've a downer on Hamza tonight.
That was one of the poorest waltzes for me.

Good job I'm not voting on the panel tonight.

[Kate!]

Oh dear I feel I've a downer on Hamza tonight.
That was one of the poorest waltzes for me.

Good job I'm not voting on the panel tonight.

Same though Joey. I think Will should go out though.

[Kate!]

Molly. She really is a survivor. That was passionate and dramatic. Enthusiastic and captivating. Get in.

[hijaxers]

Helen i loved it

[Kate!]

Will! Redeemed himself totally. That flowed. He smashed it. I loved that. So cool. :love:

[Kate!]

My order of second performances.

Fleur
Will
Molly
Helen
Hamza

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah after the show tonight I think will is the weakest. I like him and think he's a really nice guy and I love Nancy aswell but the other four couples I really really like and have done throughout so will leaving would be the ideal scenario for me. Molly's paso was the performance of the night for me!

[pontooner]

Farcical marking tonight, even had Craig in on the act. Hamza, with comfortably the worst dance tonight, finishes top of the leader board. That waltz was the worst we've seen Tony went out, poor posture, stiff, footwork for the turns clunky. Both Charleston ok, but neither anywhere near a 10. Molly's paso the best of the 3. Didn't think Will's was good but the relativities of the marking are all wrong - his Paso was still better than Hamza's waltz.

Bit disappointed with the Argentine Tango, seen many better. Helen's waltz was good mind. Molly top for me tonight, two great dances. Helen with the edge over Fleur. I'm not fan of Couple's Choice and was expecting to cringe with Will's Madchester effort but actually it a bit better than expected, on the back of that I'd have Will slighty ahead of Hamza.

[Strictly Jake]

Thinking of score wise and who will progress to the final

Hamza will safely be through which I'm happy about I really like him. And I'd love to see his Ecuador salsa and the afro beats performances again


Molly thankfully did enough tonight to secure a place in the final. In the dance off they dance their higher scoring dance she does the paso noone can beat her apart from Hamza score wise and he won't be in the dance off
So she is through

That leaves Fleur, Helen and Will all in danger. Fleur will make the final if she is against will or Helen. If she is against Molly or Hamza she is gone.

If will is against Fleur, Molly or Hamza he is gone. If he is against Helen then Helen is gone.

Helen won't survive either way if she lands in the dance off. Her higher scoring dance was the Argentine tango. Everyone scored higher than her on their higher scoring dances.

Biggest chance of who leaves. Helen

[Cherie]

Thinking of score wise and who will progress to the final

Hamza will safely be through which I'm happy about I really like him. And I'd love to see his Ecuador salsa and the afro beats performances again


Molly thankfully did enough tonight to secure a place in the final. In the dance off they dance their higher scoring dance she does the paso noone can beat her apart from Hamza score wise and he won't be in the dance off
So she is through

That leaves Fleur, Helen and Will all in danger. Fleur will make the final if she is against will or Helen. If she is against Molly or Hamza she is gone.

If will is against Fleur, Molly or Hamza he is gone. If he is against Helen then Helen is gone.

Helen won't survive either way if she lands in the dance off. Her higher scoring dance was the Argentine tango. Everyone scored higher than her on their higher scoring dances.

Biggest chance of who leaves. Helen

Helen isn’t leaving expect Fleur and Will bottom two

[GoldHeart]

Helen isn’t leaving expect Fleur and Will bottom two

Will seems massively popular so I doubt it ,I haven't watched any of the dances back. But I think Fleur is definitely in danger.

From what I've heard ,the judges are voting tactically again .

[Mystic Mock]

I'll start negative first because I've felt like this for awhile now with the Show, but it's finally broke me a little bit.

I'm honestly sick to death of Hamza's overscoring, like Rose last year he'll score a 36-39 purely off of mostly average to bad routines, and they only keep giving him these big scores just because he is a fan favourite, and by doing that it makes the Show look farcical when they're seriously trying to say that he is dancing at the same level as Fleur, Molly & Will, and tbf even Helen's AT was better than anything that Hamza has done in weeks.

And to be even more controversial, besides his Salsa and his Couples Choice performances, can anyone honestly name another really stellar Hamza performance? Like one that you'll remember as an iconic Strictly performance?

I'd also say that Will's Paso was harshly underscored, especially compared to some of the other dances in that round.

Molly had a good night, especially with her Paso surprisingly.:laugh:

Helen had a good AT imo, and bizarrely Shirley scored it lower than Hamza's AT a few weeks back.:joker:

And Fleur I thought did really well with the Charleston, but her Paso had really odd Music imo, I feel like it was an act of sabotage from the production.

And yes I get that it's just a Celeb dancing show, but I can't stand it when the competition is blatantly favouring one competitor over the rest of the others, it makes me resent Hamza's presence on the Show even though it's not even his fault, but I can't help it.

[GoldHeart]

I'll start negative first because I've felt like this for awhile now with the Show, but it's finally broke me a little bit.

I'm honestly sick to death of Hamza's overscoring, like Rose last year he'll score a 36-39 purely off of mostly average to bad routines, and they only keep giving him these big scores just because he is a fan favourite, and by doing that it makes the Show look farcical when they're seriously trying to say that he is dancing at the same level as Fleur, Molly & Will, and tbf even Helen's AT was better than anything that Hamza has done in weeks.

And to be even more controversial, besides his Salsa and his Couples Choice performances, can anyone honestly name another really stellar Hamza performance? Like one that you'll remember as an iconic Strictly performance?

I'd also say that Will's Paso was harshly underscored, especially compared to some of the other dances in that round.

Molly had a good night, especially with her Paso surprisingly.:laugh:

Helen had a good AT imo, and bizarrely Shirley scored it lower than Hamza's AT a few weeks back.:joker:

And Fleur I thought did really well with the Charleston, but her Paso had really odd Music imo, I feel like it was an act of sabotage from the production.

And yes I get that it's just a Celeb dancing show, but I can't stand it when the competition is blatantly favouring one competitor over the rest of the others, it makes me resent Hamza's presence on the Show even though it's not even his fault, but I can't help it.

Mock of course it's NOT Hamza's fault , so that's not really fair to say you 'resent him' . Why don't you resent Shirley ?? . She's the one being bias and ridiculous all the time .

[Mystic Mock]

Mock of course it's NOT Hamza's fault , so that's not really fair to say you 'resent him' . Why don't you resent Shirley ?? . She's the one being bias and ridiculous all the time .

Oh I already don't like Shirley that's why, her judging is incredibly biased imo.

And I know that it's not Hamza's fault, and he does seem like a nice guy.

But like with Rose last year he is getting an easy ride off the judges, and I do resent that aspect about the last couple of Strictly winners.

[Vanessa]

Will is the only non dancer left. No dancing experience whatsoever. I would love to see him in the final.
And he's not the weakest. I think he's great.

[Vanessa]

I think the judges are overscoring Hamza.
Maybe his vote is not as strong as Will and Helen?
Will and Helen are constantly underscored.

[GoldHeart]

Ok just watched all the dances

Fleur : Very strong paso & Charleston , one was energetic & quirky & the other was complete fierce passion . If Fleur has danced her last ,then she's gone out on a massive high. But sadly the competition will lose of of the best .

Molly: Equally as strong as Fleur , just wow at the stunning American Smooth & the dramatic intense Paso . Molly is a true contender . Again if either or Fleur goes . Then the competition will lose one of the best .

Helen : So much Confidence now , she's a very good performer . And she puts effort in .

Hamza: I liked his routines , he's always decent / ok & happy and his Charleston was fun .

Will: He tries , and couples choice was decent/ ok & paso again was ok but felt it needed more . But Will is the weakest in the competition imo . But I know he's popular.

Technically for me Fleur & Molly are joint number 1 / The best in the competition.

2nd Helen

3rd Hamza

4th Will

[Mystic Mock]

Ok just watched all the dances

Fleur : Very strong paso & Charleston , one was energetic & quirky & the other was complete fierce passion . If Fleur has danced her last ,then she's gone out on a massive high. But sadly the competition will lose of of the best .

Molly: Equally as strong as Fleur , just wow at the stunning American Smooth & the dramatic intense Paso . Molly is a true contender . Again if either or Fleur goes . Then the competition will lose one of the best .

Helen : So much Confidence now , she's a very good performer . And she puts effort in .

Hamza: I liked his routines , he's always decent / ok & happy and his Charleston was fun .

Will: He tries , and couples choice was decent/ ok & paso again was ok but felt it needed more . But Will is the weakest in the competition imo . But I know he's popular.

Technically for me Fleur & Molly are joint number 1 / The best in the competition.

2nd Helen

3rd Hamza

4th Will

Oh if the public were actually judging the Show as a dancing contest then Molly would've had her winning moment with that Paso performance last night.

Unfortunately I doubt the public even care about the performances on any level.:laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Oh if the public were actually judging the Show as a dancing contest then Molly would've had her winning moment with that Paso performance last night.

Unfortunately I doubt the public even care about the performances on any level.:laugh:

I just know one of my favourites is going home :bawling: , but either way both Molly & Fleur are still my winners :clap1: .

[Vanessa]

Hamza was overscored. That waltz was not deserving of 9s and 10s.
Helen was good.
I like Molly, but Carlos always makes it about him. He's supposed to be showcasing Molly!
Will paso I thought was ok, maybe he went in a bit too aggressively? His couples choice was amazing. I was dancing along!
Fleur paso, I wasn't keen on that. But I liked her Charleston.

[Mystic Mock]

I just know one of my favourites is going home :bawling: , but either way both Molly & Fleur are still my winners :clap1: .

I agree with you on both points.

[joeysteele]

Hamza was overscored. That waltz was not deserving of 9s and 10s.
Helen was good.
I like Molly, but Carlos always makes it about him. He's supposed to be showcasing Molly!
Will paso I thought was ok, maybe he went in a bit too aggressively? His couples choice was amazing. I was dancing along!
Fleur paso, I wasn't keen on that. But I liked her Charleston.

Hamza's waltz was one of the worst I've seen on Strictly.
Really overmarked.

[Nicky91]

great show last night

Helen: that argentine tango first dance i liked from her, her waltz not so much kinda dull

Hamza: two solid performances once again

Molly: i enjoyed her american smooth, her paso was quality yes and she is very much deserving of a place in the final

Will: i felt for him in the paso, it is a super difficult dance for a male celeb to get right, his couples choice was a borefest, i was expecting something more

Fleur: her paso was mediocre at best, not her fault but the music wasn't right, and her charleston i preferred hamza's much wackier, and this one was too controlled, craig was right



my choices for the B2 would be Will vs Fleur, and Will can win with his CC i think in terms of scores wise comparison or Fleur has to suddenly dance a little less controlled in her Charleston second time around


if Molly is in dance off again, well i pray for you (aka new victim) no one can beat her in that paso :hehe:

[Lewismacfarlane]

My family are team Hamza and team will



I'm team Helen

[Nicky91]

my dad is Team Hamzita :D



well i'm more neutral i guess ever since Team Twinkle Tones (Tony & Katya) left, it is a strong and very unpredictable year




my fave performances from my favourites had been his Grandstand theme cha cha, that was so much fun, with mimicking all the different sport events combined with such a solid cuban break move




i also liked James & Amy, his guardian of galaxy cha cha still so entertaining when i rewatch that

[GoldHeart]

What is going on , the spoiler isn't on the website still !! :facepalm:, I just know Fleur has gone I bet :bawling:.

[Vanessa]

As long as Helen wins, the series is saved :laugh:
I'm rooting for her.
Would love to see Will in the final. If not I'll see him at the tour. He has made the series worth watching for me.

[Nicky91]

What is going on , the spoiler isn't on the website still !! :facepalm:, I just know Fleur has gone I bet :bawling:.

:umm2: don't overreact, we'll see the results tonight anyway


8:15 PM after Eastenders


with pro group number including Craig


and the wonderful Lewis Capaldi will be performing

[GoldHeart]

It's obvious it's between Helen & Will to win. I would prefer Helen out the 2 to win ,as she's actually a much better dancer and has improved.

My ideal winner would be Fleur or Molly ,but I know that's not happening. If Hamza wins ,then I'd still be happy for him ...despite what the judges have been doing.

Would be nice if one of the girls wins ,as they've been critiqued the harshest , especially by Shirley the sour face :fist: .

[Strictly Jake]

Watching the paso from Molly again. There is no way that should not have been a 40. It's perfect there is nothing to fault it deserved a 40 for sure

[pontooner]

Well that was a pile of...

On the dance-off, I thought Will edged it, Fleur's Charleston was better last night. But really, and I know its not his fault, Hamza is being shoved through every week and I've a real downer on him because of it. He's just bang average; reasonable at the latins, good timing out of hold and clearly strong enough to pull off some decent lifts (but so are lots of male celebs) but he's not a ballroom dancer of any merit and well outclassed by Will in that respect.

Molly is the best dancer and deserves to win it. I got what was said about Carlos above though. It's his first year and he reminds me of Graziano in his first year - sometimes forgetting his job is to show off the celeb follower and not make the dance about himself.

[Mystic Mock]

Well that was a pile of...

On the dance-off, I thought Will edged it, Fleur's Charleston was better last night. But really, and I know its not his fault, Hamza is being shoved through every week and I've a real downer on him because of it. He's just bang average; reasonable at the latins, good timing out of hold and clearly strong enough to pull off some decent lifts (but so are lots of male celebs) but he's not a ballroom dancer of any merit and well outclassed by Will in that respect.

Molly is the best dancer and deserves to win it. I got what was said about Carlos above though. It's his first year and he reminds me of Graziano in his first year - sometimes forgetting his job is to show off the celeb follower and not make the dance about himself.

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.:laugh:

[Nicky91]

Will was indeed better in that dance off


i think Shirley needs glasses? at least Anton saw it right how wrong that lift went :laugh3:

[Nicky91]

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.:laugh:

with this sort of weird public taste i even can do well with them :laugh2:


rather Hamza than Helen as the winner pls, jeez if Helen wins, how low the level of love for dance has sunk with the public :rolleyes: Helen can't dance, just unfortunate she is a presenter with a long career :idc:

[GoldHeart]

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.:laugh:

I personally think Fleur CAN sing ,and she was an excellent performer aswell on XF ...but we have different opinions.

But I agree about it not being fair that she's been in the dance off so many times, despite having memorable fantastic dances & routines.

[Nicky91]

british aren't as good as germans with shows like this


lets dance germany recent series standard of quality has been massively higher than strictly's level of quality


i mean having Lili Paul-Roncalli (not to mention having the earliest perfect 30 score so far out of all series) win a final against Luca Hanni, Moritz Hans and all 3 being phenomenally great, even the 4th place semi finalist Tijan Njie would've been a worthy finalist

or footballer Rurik Gislason winning against a superb consistent same-sex pair Nicolas & Vadim, and another consistent duo Valentina & Valentin while being amazing himself many weeks too (with even on paper duffers like Auma Obama having some exceptional good moments too)


or this year, paralympian Mathias Mester whom is 10000000000000% better than Ellie Simmonds for sure, a worthy finalist too on dance ability as well as performing ability for a non-actor, Janin & Zsolt being a consistent pair, Zsolt in his first pro year immediately a finalist, more deserving than Vito, Carlos, Jowita here what he got out of Janin in those weeks

and Rene Casselly as the winner, based on dance ability because well personality wise he isn't that liked, he can come across as a bit arrogant/overconfident



comedy contestant wise, lets dance treats them better than strictly too, some don't act like the comedy ones

like Martin Klempnow, Oli Pocher, Bastian Bielendorfer, Ailton, Ilka Bessin and even a 69 yr old news veteran Jan Hofer who was able to keep up with the youngsters quite decently in his own way


they also handled the disability contestant, deaf contestant better, Benjamin Piwko whom never got any ''sympathy support'' based on his disability but more based on the ability to perform really well with lots of emotions

[Mystic Mock]

I personally think Fleur CAN sing ,and she was an excellent performer aswell on XF ...but we have different opinions.

But I agree about it not being fair that she's been in the dance off so many times, despite having memorable fantastic dances & routines.

Maybe I did word it harshly looking back at the post.

What I mean is that she's a much better dancer, yet the public keep dropping her in the bottom two, it's really bizarre.:laugh:

[Nicky91]

Maybe I did word it harshly looking back at the post.

What I mean is that she's a much better dancer, yet the public keep dropping her in the bottom two, it's really bizarre.:laugh:

people just need to vote right, how difficult can voting correct be :rolleyes:


Fleur and Molly tower above Hamza and Helen as the far superior dancers

[Nicky91]

if Helen wins i won't accept that

that ugly talentless woman

[Nicky91]

the only mistake german public ever made was let Kerstin go through many weeks of getting 1's and basically not improving at all, staying pedestrian :laugh3:


her charleston to scatman almost made me puke

[Strictly Jake]

if Helen wins i won't accept that

that ugly talentless woman

Not again Nicky. Stop attacking people. And please do not put her in your avatar or your sig or call yourself a number one fan of her just because I've said this. If you don't like someone that's ok just don't be so vicious and obsessed

[Nicky91]

Not again Nicky. Stop attacking people. And please do not put her in your avatar or your sig or call yourself a number one fan of her just because I've said this. If you don't like someone that's ok just don't be so vicious and obsessed

i'm not, at least i have normal tastes


it was pretty obvious Helen would easily make the final solely based on popularity, her couple choice was not good at all, anyone can dance theatre jazz too, as we saw with wooden ellie taylor :hehe:


thank god i never liked her i feel so good

[Nicky91]

- Patrick Grant (Sewing Bee judge, businessman) & Amy Dowden
- Max Whitlock (Olympic Gymnast) & Dianne Buswell
- James McAvoy (Actor) & Karen Hauer
- Tyger Drew-Honey (Actor) & Jowita Przsytal
- Raheem Sterling (Footballer) & Nadiya Bychkova
- Steve Davis (Snooker Legend) & Nancy Xu
- Dr Xand van Tulleken (TV Doctor) & Katya Jones
- Bradley Simpson (The Vamps singer) & Michelle Tsiakkas

---------------------------------------------------------
- Leona Lewis (singer) & Graziano Di Prima
- Rachel Johnson (journalist, sister of Boris Johnson) & Nikita Kuzmin
- Helena Bonham Carter (Actress) & Giovanni Pernice
- Rebecca Ryan (Soap Actress) & Kai Widdrington
- Ella Eyre (singer) & Carlos Gu
- Amy Childs (tv personality, model) & Vito Coppola
- Maya Jama (presenter of tv & radio, DJ) & Johannes Radebe

[Vanessa]

Will was better in the dance off and should have been saved.
Fleur made a mistake, like Anton rightly pointed out.
Thank god it was Fleur and I really like her.
If it was Molly or Hamza I would have been furious :laugh:
Yes I'm sad that Will left, but it's Fleur and she has my full support.

[Vanessa]

I also really liked Rhys and Nancy last year and they should have been in that final.
Why did Will and Nancy drop the tango and AT?
Very silly decision. One of those dances in the final would have scored will high and he would have gone through.
Nancy next time do not drop tango/AT.

[Mystic Mock]

people just need to vote right, how difficult can voting correct be :rolleyes:


Fleur and Molly tower above Hamza and Helen as the far superior dancers

I mean tbf people can vote however they want to.

It's just when the standards for good dancing drops, the public will only have themselves to blame.

[Mystic Mock]

i'm not, at least i have normal tastes


it was pretty obvious Helen would easily make the final solely based on popularity, her couple choice was not good at all, anyone can dance theatre jazz too, as we saw with wooden ellie taylor :hehe:


thank god i never liked her i feel so good

Tbf you shouldn't be calling contestants ugly because you don't like their dancing.

[Mystic Mock]

- Patrick Grant (Sewing Bee judge, businessman) & Amy Dowden
- Max Whitlock (Olympic Gymnast) & Dianne Buswell
- James McAvoy (Actor) & Karen Hauer
- Tyger Drew-Honey (Actor) & Jowita Przsytal
- Raheem Sterling (Footballer) & Nadiya Bychkova
- Steve Davis (Snooker Legend) & Nancy Xu
- Dr Xand van Tulleken (TV Doctor) & Katya Jones
- Bradley Simpson (The Vamps singer) & Michelle Tsiakkas

---------------------------------------------------------
- Leona Lewis (singer) & Graziano Di Prima
- Rachel Johnson (journalist, sister of Boris Johnson) & Nikita Kuzmin
- Helena Bonham Carter (Actress) & Giovanni Pernice
- Rebecca Ryan (Soap Actress) & Kai Widdrington
- Ella Eyre (singer) & Carlos Gu
- Amy Childs (tv personality, model) & Vito Coppola
- Maya Jama (presenter of tv & radio, DJ) & Johannes Radebe

Raheem Sterling and Leona would be fighting to be bottom of the leaderboard every week.:joker:

[Nicky91]

Raheem Sterling and Leona would be fighting to be bottom of the leaderboard every week.:joker:

no that would be Rachel :laugh:


i see potential in Patrick, and James should just do it tbh, i mean he is interested in ballroom dancing, he already admitted that in a talk show recently

[Strictly Jake]

Not again Nicky. Stop attacking people. And please do not put her in your avatar or your sig or call yourself a number one fan of her just because I've said this. If you don't like someone that's ok just don't be so vicious and obsessed

Oh suprise suprise Helen is in Nicky's Sig and he's her number one fan :smug: it's so embarrassing

[Nicky91]

Oh suprise suprise Helen is in Nicky's Sig and he's her number one fan :smug: it's so embarrassing

i know :joker:


i am not her number one fan, but saying i dislike her is also not true, before strictly i used to like her a lot in countryfile, next to John Craven, Anita Rani and Adam Henson as my 4th fave presenter there


i think she'd also be wonderful for escape to the country somehow


and one of Artem's former partners (in xmas special) a title contender here this year :D (i still stan Artem btw too)

[Vanessa]

It's been a great series, I've loves every minute of it.
I feel lucky my favourite got in the top 5.
A great achievement for a non dancer.
I like Fleur and I'll be rooting for her.
Funniest moment for me : Tyler on the rollercoaster, in Blackpool. His face! :joker:

[GoldHeart]

They just said on the morning show aswell,that 3 NEW professionals have made the final ...for the FIRST time ever !!! :hello: .

Well done Carlos ,Vito & Jowita !!! :cheer2: .

[Vanessa]

Not keen on Carlos. It makes it all about him.
But I love Vito.

[Nicky91]

i so wanna be the first civilian superfan to take part in this show, i'd love the whole journey of having to go to training every day of the week


height wise, well i am a giant :laugh2: i'd say they'd pair me up with Luba probably

[Mystic Mock]

It's been a great series, I've loves every minute of it.
I feel lucky my favourite got in the top 5.
A great achievement for a non dancer.
I like Fleur and I'll be rooting for her.
Funniest moment for me : Tyler on the rollercoaster, in Blackpool. His face! :joker:

And to be honest Will's fanbase was really in the top 4 I feel.

Because in fairness as someone that thinks that Fleur & Molly have been treated harshly by the public, their voting has been awful.:joker:

[Nicky91]

i'm curious how long i would last in this show :laugh:


whoever is my dance partner, she'll be in for a wild ride



i'll be a fun contestant for sure

[GoldHeart]

And to be honest Will's fanbase was really in the top 4 I feel.

Because in fairness as someone that thinks that Fleur & Molly have been treated harshly by the public, their voting has been awful.:joker:

I'm just glad that whatever happens now both Molly & Fleur have made the final, I know neither will win. But atleast they've made it ,and there's no more awful dance offs .

This is one of the best finals ...I feel :clap1: .

[Nicky91]

I'm just glad that whatever happens now both Molly & Fleur have made the final, I know neither will win. But atleast they've made it ,and there's no more awful dance offs .

This is one of the best finals ...I feel :clap1: .

:umm2: no, one of the most predictable ones


so obvious Helen has won it, same in the year of Abbey winning due to sympathy votes (married to a national treasure) and Helen has the support of the women behind her, because of the asshole cheater of a ex-husband

[Vanessa]

Excited for this.
Let's enjoy it. It's the last one.
At least we have The Masked singer starting soon and also Dancing on Ice.

[Vanessa]

Will is on tonight show.
I'm definitely going on the tour, I want to see him dance love :love:

[Kate!]

Can't wait for this tonight.

[Kate!]

It's time!

[Kate!]

Loved that opening number

[Kate!]

Only me watching?

A for effort Hamza but he's just not up to the three girls standard.

[Kate!]

Only me watching?

A for effort Hamza but he's just not up to the three girls standard.

[Kate!]

Wow Molly wow. Fabulous. Four tens please.

[Kate!]

Hot hot hot! Scorching Fleur :love:

[Kate!]

Hells bells Helen. Outrageously good. Tens again please.

[smudgie]

Loved Helen.:dance:

[Kate!]

Loved Helen.:dance:

Yes Smudge. As close to perfection as possible.

[joeysteele]

All were good.
Helen and Fleur great.

Hamza wasn't as good in this second dance.

[Kate!]

It was good but not final worthy. Sorry Hamza.

[hijaxers]

Helen put everything into that . Well done girl.

[Kate!]

My order based on the first dance

Helen
Fleur
Molly
Hamza

[joeysteele]

My order based on the first dance

Helen
Fleur
Molly
Hamza

Yes for me too that.

[Kate!]

Molly just blew me away. That was HOT.

[Parmy]

It's not about the dancing it's about the emotion.

Hamza to win.

[Kate!]

Amazing from Fleur. I feel Molly had the edge though.

[Kate!]

Cmon Helen. Let's see what you got.

[Kate!]

Beautiful. Helen certainly shone bright.

[Kate!]

My order for the 2nd dance.

Molly
Fleur
Helen
Hamza

[Strictly Jake]

Fleur has to win. Flipping brilliant tonight

[Parmy]

Pure emosh.


Well done hamza

I thought you were from africa with that dance

[Kate!]

I swear if Hamza wins I'll boycott the show next year. Travesty. All 3 girls are far superior dancers.

[joeysteele]

I swear if Hamza wins I'll boycott the show next year. Travesty. All 3 girls are far superior dancers.

He has a presence but it's all relying on lifts mostly.
Here's 4 tens though I think from the judges.

[Vanessa]

Hamza not as good as the other three.

[Kate!]

Hamza not as good as the other three.

Absolutely Ness.

[hijaxers]

I swear if Hamza wins I'll boycott the show next year. Travesty. All 3 girls are far superior dancers.

Agreed you are totally right there Kate. for me its always been his feet, i know he can't help it but his feet turn in.

[Kate!]

Lovely performance from Molly.

[Kate!]

Craig giving Hamza a 10 and Molly only a 9. Bloody wrong.