I’m a Celebrity 2022 Official watch discussion thread

[Mystic Mock]

You Forget

Hancock just did SAS for Ch4HD
to be shown,
Next Year

The Celeb version though.

The good thing about Survivor USA is that there's no creature comforts to secretly have when the cameras aren't rolling, let's see how he does in that environment.

And that's when he'd truly have faced a harsher environment than what we had to face during lockdown.

[jet]

So would I if people were being nice to that troll.

It didn't stop him eating the dinner that one of Matt's stars provided for him....
:hee:

[arista]

The Celeb version though.

The good thing about Survivor USA is that there's no creature comforts to secretly have when the cameras aren't rolling, let's see how he does in that environment.

And that's when he'd truly have faced a harsher environment than what we had to face during lockdown.


In the Ch4HD SAS series
it is far tougher
they are celebs on that,
and Hancock MP.


https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383001

To be shown
next year.

[arista]

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Boy George
Mother Top of the paper

[Mystic Mock]

It didn't stop him eating the dinner that one of Matt's stars provided for him....
:hee:

Fair point.:laugh:

[GoldHeart]

But Matt on a Task
means they get Stars for more Food.


Boy George is a Vegetarian
so should not be on this eating next task
It stinks

Yeah would have been better someone else doing the eating trial, BG is just going to get a rotten egg to eat & vomit fruit .

But it won't be the first time a ' vegetarian ' , did an eating task . I'm sceptical though...I bet outside the show BG stuffs his face with non vegetarian stuff all the time.

[Vanessa]

You Forget

Hancock just did SAS for Ch4HD
to be shown,
Next Year


Much Tougher than Survivor

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383001
Yes, that's really tough. I watch it every year.

[AnnieK]

Did anyone catch the look of resentment on Moyle's face when most of the others were praising Matt for getting 11 stars? He was fuming!

I didn't see that, I saw him looking and saying "awkward" when he returned because they were talking about him when he walked it, but didn't think he looked fuming.

[Cherie]

Having Matt Hancock in
paid off for ITV


Getting higher ratings of over 9 Million Viewers

He is the only reason I am watching, I couldn’t watch the opening eps as it’s the same trudge over and over

[Zizu]

Do you think they have discussed their individual fees between themselves ?

Seems an obvious talking point ..


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[Kazanne]

He is the only reason I am watching, I couldn’t watch the opening eps as it’s the same trudge over and over

Same Cherie,I think he's come over okay so far,he must feel pretty uncomfortable in there as for some of the others, they are coming across as childish and bitchy, I like him so far.

[Cherie]

Do you think they have discussed their individual fees between themselves ?

Seems an obvious talking point ..


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Might be in their contract not to discuss it

[jet]

I didn't see that, I saw him looking and saying "awkward" when he returned because they were talking about him when he walked it, but didn't think he looked fuming.

That isn't the bit I was referring to - it was shortly after.

[Vanessa]

Matt is now one of my favourites in there. He never complains and always does what he's asked to do.
And he's also quite funny.

[arista]

Matt is now one of my favourites in there. He never complains and always does what he's asked to do.
And he's also quite funny.


Sure
But the others are going to have it out
with Matt
saying his is an MP
and not dealing with his local people.


Of Course his staff will deal with any
local problems

Now he is an Independent MP, now,
at the next General Election
he is gone for good, from politics

[rusticgal]

Did anyone catch the look of resentment on Moyle's face when most of the others were praising Matt for getting 11 stars? He was fuming!


Yes, he wasn't happy about that was he :laugh:...Chris Moyles is a twat...always has been and always will be.

[rusticgal]

I just find the hypocrisy hysterical...its why I am intrigued by human behaviour.
I have read an article by Jan Moir who has never had a good word to say about Matt Hancock but she says that she finds herself rooting for him...she says he doesn't deserve the contempt of these Jungle nobodies...breaking the rules that his own Government set was wrong...he had an affair he made mistakes but it was MH that got some crucial things right...he focused on the vaccines rather than mass testing, which she says was a critical strategy that turned out to be right,,,that led to saving hundreds of thousands of lives...yet all these people can do is focus on his rule breaking...which probably half of them did themselves at some point during the Pandemic.

"He should be working...looking after his constituents" some of them bleat. So its ok for them to have time off their day jobs to spend 3 weeks in the Australian Jungle...but he isnt allowed any time off :laugh:

Pathetic...:smug:

[arista]

A clip of Boy George
Eating on the Next task
fast then slowing down.

Matt Hancock, seated next to him, Laughing

Was on ITV1HD this morning

[Crimson Dynamo]

A clip of Boy George
Eating on the Next task
fast then slowing down.

Matt Hancock, seated next to him, Laughing

Was on ITV1HD this morning

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[arista]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11416661/Boy-George-gags-eats-fermented-plums-Matt-Hancock-hold-laughter.html

[Vanessa]

Doing the trials will give Matt plenty of airtime.
He's actually really good so far.
He has shown a lot of guts.

[Kazanne]

I just find the hypocrisy hysterical...its why I am intrigued by human behaviour.
I have read an article by Jan Moir who has never had a good word to say about Matt Hancock but she says that she finds herself rooting for him...she says he doesn't deserve the contempt of these Jungle nobodies...breaking the rules that his own Government set was wrong...he had an affair he made mistakes but it was MH that got some crucial things right...he focused on the vaccines rather than mass testing, which she says was a critical strategy that turned out to be right,,,that led to saving hundreds of thousands of lives...yet all these people can do is focus on his rule breaking...which probably half of them did themselves at some point during the Pandemic.

"He should be working...looking after his constituents" some of them bleat. So its ok for them to have time off their day jobs to spend 3 weeks in the Australian Jungle...but he isnt allowed any time off :laugh:

Pathetic...:smug:

:clap1::clap1:100 %, i think it's just an excuse rustic because he is a Tory.

[Vanessa]

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Well done to Boy George as well for having a go. The eating trial is never easy .

[Vanessa]

:clap1::clap1:100 %, i think it's just an excuse rustic because he is a Tory.

I like him and Sean. They've definitely livened things up.

[Vanessa]

They should vote other people to do the trials.
Some of them are coasting and not doing much.
I'm definitely voting to save Matt when I'm allowed to do so.
Even if he's likely to go early, but he has my vote.

[Kazanne]

Well done to Boy George as well for having a go. The eating trial is never easy .

isn't George a vegetarian ? just wondered

[Crimson Dynamo]

I like him and Sean. They've definitely livened things up.

Not our Ness falling for the 2 bad boy love cheats

:omgno:

[Kazanne]

Well done to Boy George as well for having a go. The eating trial is never easy .

:joker::joker::joker::joker: Now that picture is funny Ness.

[GoldHeart]

isn't George a vegetarian ? just wondered

Yeah how convenient,so he'll just get rotten fruit & eggs to eat like Beverly a few years back.

[Pro Sniper]

George kicked off his morning with another fake Buddha session. He feels "much better today". The grovelling of production must've paid off.

Walsh looked like a total jakeball as he stirred from his slumber..

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and not long after he was back in the BT hitting us up with that OTT laughter of his. There's simply no way anyone could find almost everything as funny as he makes out.

Scott and Warner are once again seen rising from the LUDICROUS luxury of actual beds. The whole point of this show is supposed to be to TAKE THEM AWAY from their HOME comforts, challenging them to cope/adapt to much more basic and bleak conditions. Bringing in silly beds and having Big Mac feasts and pub nights just makes a complete mockery of the title "get me out of here".

After seeing what was potentially happening with cock(hostility which was verging towards bullying) Douglas decided she wanted to collect some brownie pts by going on a stroll with him and assuring him he was "part of the family"

The trial was another decent one at least...and it has to be said that cock dealt with it well. As he was proudly bouncing back to base to tell the greedy, uncaring ingrates about his good work.. he just about interrupted Cleaver and Moyles lambasting his inclusion to their "family". Looks like Douglas wasn't speaking for ALL of them..

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And notice George was nowhere to be seen on his return??? Obviously couldn't stand the thought of giving him any sort of props..so he made sure he was absent. It's too bad cock never battered someone senseless before his arrival..as George may have really respected that which would've given them something to really bond over.

The "undercover mole" nonsense has thankfully come to an end..as having to watch these fools be as subtle as sledgehammers(while the "unsuspecting" recipients of the "gag" are tasked with acting oblivious to what's going on) is just RIDICULOUS. Did you see who was conveniently chosen to play role within it before it ended? Scott. Clearly production pet fav. They must've realised when they seen her "banana water" DESPERATION they had to act swiftly to get her involved again. This latest feature has resulted in her odds becoming even more cramped. They imply her chance of winning has now increased to around 50%..

https://i.imgur.com/E0i8ve3.png

Q: What type of young man would have their luxury item be a mug with their grandparents on?

A: Very, very DESPERATE one.

[Liam-]

Yeah how convenient,so he'll just get rotten fruit & eggs to eat like Beverly a few years back.

Would you rather then force feed a vegetarian meat? Or better yet, would you be able to eat rotten/disgusting fruit or fermented stuff they’ll likely give him?

[GoldHeart]

Would you rather then force feed a vegetarian meat? Or better yet, would you be able to eat rotten/disgusting fruit or fermented stuff they’ll likely give him?

No I would rather 2 MEAT eaters were doing an eating trial, and preferably campmates who haven't done a trial yet.

[rusticgal]

[QUOTE=Pro Sniper;11227577]

And notice George was nowhere to be seen on his return??? Obviously couldn't stand the thought of giving him any sort of props..so he made sure he was absent. It's too bad cock never battered someone senseless before his arrival..as George may have really respected that which would've given them something to really bond over.

/QUOTE]

:joker:

[Liam-]

No I would rather 2 MEAT eaters were doing an eating trial, and preferably campmates who haven't done a trial yet.

Why do you even watch tv if you’re this unhappy whenever something doesn’t go exactly how you want it to go? :joker:

[joeysteele]

I don't really like any of them this series.
Maybe the footballer Jill.

I thought I'd like Sue from Corrie but she's like an ornament in there.
I can't think of a single thing she's done or contributed to from the start.
Plus being exempt from already 2 trials one an eating task the other not.

Beats me in a show like this why either the trials aren't such that all CAN and HAVE to do them.
Or don't pay people to be in the show who cannot or won't do certain trials.

I am personally full of fury at Hancock but as I said before he does really get right into any trial he's expected to do.
So admire his efforts in that.
However I'd hate him to win.
Then again that's near impossible I think.

Quite why the Con party is also up in arms about him in there though is astounding.
He could break laws he helped make, deceive the public, cheat on his wife, bring more scandal to his government.
However that didn't warrant him losing the Con whip.

Whereas going on a TV show for around 3 weeks does have him thrown out from the Con Party whip.

Thinking of them all I'd maybe like Jill to win so far.
Really not bothered about the others.

I'll not get started on Boy George.
I cannot stand the man.
Although he did make some great recordings in his time.

[rusticgal]

I don't really like any of them this series.
Maybe the footballer Jill.

I thought I'd like Sue from Corrie but she's like an ornament in there.
I can't think of a single thing she's done or contributed to from the start.
Plus being exempt from already 2 trials one an eating task the other not.

Beats me in a show like this why either the trials aren't such that all CAN and HAVE to do them.
Or don't pay people to be in the show who cannot or won't do certain trials.

I am personally full of fury at Hancock but as I said before he does really get right into any trial he's expected to do.
So admire his efforts in that.
However I'd hate him to win.
Then again that's as near impossible I think.

Quite why the Con party is also up in arms about him in there though is astounding.
He could break laws he helped make, deceive the public, cheat on his wife, bring more scandal to his government.
However that didn't warrant him losing the Con whip.

Whereas going on a TV show for around 3 weeks does have him thrown out from the Con Party whip.

Thinking of them all I'd maybe like Jill to win so far.
Really not bothered about the others.

I'll not get started on Boy George.
I cannot stand the man.
Although he did make some great recordings in his time.


I agree with most things you have said her Joey...I'm not keen on many of them either. I like Jill and I like Sean and MH and Owen is ok along with Baba... MH will not win but I think he may go further than people think he will. Disappointed in Sue...I think she may be first boot.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Chris Moyles has been the best so far

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhRnEV4WQAAF6Js?format=jpg&name=small

Love and Lust

[rusticgal]

Chris Moyles has been the best so far


:nono:

[joeysteele]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhRnEV4WQAAF6Js?format=jpg&name=small

Love and Lust

It's not this affair I myself dislike him for.

We don't know the behind closed doors of married couples lives.
How happy or sad or even difficult things may be.

If politicians had to go because of having affairs..
There'd possibly be loads having to go in that case.

Everyone has a right to be happy.
It's sad if marriages end but sadly some do.
This I don't hold against him really.

The way this came out was very bad and sad for his wife and children.
The media making the meal of it.

IF he'd been a good Health Secretary I wouldn't have expected him to resign for this .

As to his time thus far on the show.
He's really into it and is just getting on with anything he's told to do or gets voted to do.
Which at least is as entertaining probably to most of those who don't like him, just as it is to those who do like him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

sHDW1a-IsxU

[AnnieK]

Chris Moyles has been the best so far

He's being a bit quiet so far. Every person who knows him though has always said he is really shy to begin with and uses his humour as a front but when he relaxes he really is the nicest, kindest friend they have. I remember when they announced the first lockdown and he was on the radio the next morning and he was so calming and honest in his broadcast - the same when they Queen passed, his brashness went and all that was left was respect and honesty.

He portrays himself as a loudmouth etc but is very different I think. My sister in law has flown with him (she works for BA) and she said he was really lovely.

[GoldHeart]

Why do you even watch tv if you’re this unhappy whenever something doesn’t go exactly how you want it to go? :joker:

Yeah I'll immediately stop watching TV, because how dare I critique or be annoyed with anything.

Suddenly everything is sunshine & candyfloss for you , you've never complained about anything have you:hee: .

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

He's being a bit quiet so far. Every person who knows him though has always said he is really shy to begin with and uses his humour as a front but when he relaxes he really is the nicest, kindest friend they have. I remember when they announced the first lockdown and he was on the radio the next morning and he was so calming and honest in his broadcast - the same when they Queen passed, his brashness went and all that was left was respect and honesty.

He portrays himself as a loudmouth etc but is very different I think. My sister in law has flown with him (she works for BA) and she said he was really lovely.

Yes I remember when he first came to London to work at Capital and he stayed initially with 2 girls who worked alongside me and they said the same.

[AnnieK]

Hancock & BG doing the eating trial ohhh great :notimpressed: .
And yeah why is Sue exempt?? .

Sue is exempt as she is diabetic and they can't ensure her blood sugar won't be messed up eating the foods is the reason they have given.

[Zizu]

I’m only liking Scarlette and Jill plus maybe Owen if he is genuinely dippy

Apparently there are loads of YouTube clips from 3 or 4 years ago showing him to be just as hapless / helpless


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[Vanessa]

isn't George a vegetarian ? just wondered

Yes. He's only eating vegetarian stuff for the trial. No meat.

[Cherie]

It will suit the producers for Jill to win this in World Cup year....seems a lot of manipulation that way already ...she seems nice though

[AnnieK]

It will suit the producers for Jill to win this in World Cup year....seems a lot of manipulation that way already ...she seems nice though

She owns a coffee shop near me with her wife and is lovely apparently. Any kids who want a selfie etc she is only too happy to do and spends time chatting with everyone

[Vanessa]

She owns a coffee shop near me with her wife and is lovely apparently. Any kids who want a selfie etc she is only too happy to do and spends time chatting with everyone

She's so nice. I like her a lot. But Matt is entertaining me more. :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

It will suit the producers for Jill to win this in World Cup year....seems a lot of manipulation that way already ...she seems nice though

Sounds like another Harry Redknapp favouritism thing then .

[Cherie]

She owns a coffee shop near me with her wife and is lovely apparently. Any kids who want a selfie etc she is only too happy to do and spends time chatting with everyone

Aw she does seem very genuine

Sounds like another Harry Redknapp favouritism thing then .

They always have a fav

[Mystic Mock]

Why do you even watch tv if you’re this unhappy whenever something doesn’t go exactly how you want it to go? :joker:

Tbf I get where GoldHeart's coming from.

The whole point of the IAC eating trial is to see them eat Bugs and all sorts of other controversial choices of Meat.

Imo contestants like Boy George should be made exempt from that particular trial if he can't do it due to his own personal morality.

[rusticgal]

Tbf I get where GoldHeart's coming from.

The whole point of the IAC eating trial is to see them eat Bugs and all sorts of other controversial choices of Meat.

Imo contestants like Boy George should be made exempt from that particular trial if he can't do it due to his own personal morality.


Maybe vegetarian options are worse than the meat options….but it is imbalanced as a result…

[GoldHeart]

Tbf I get where GoldHeart's coming from.

The whole point of the IAC eating trial is to see them eat Bugs and all sorts of other controversial choices of Meat.

Imo contestants like Boy George should be made exempt from that particular trial if he can't do it due to his own personal morality.

Exactly
Seems a cop out to have a vegetarian or vegan doing an eating trial.

And people can say how 'yucky' rotten fruit & eggs are, but it's not the same as seeing someone eat kangaroo bits or cockroaches is it now :shrug: .

[Mystic Mock]

Maybe vegetarian options are worse than the meat options….but it is imbalanced as a result…

Exactly.

[arista]

On Now

[Beso]

They have all annoyed me since this months tv times came out.

[Beso]

Ant and deck whoohoo..so funny.

Advert.


Wee bit more ant and dec, tension who's gonna be getting the task...we already know..


Adverts.

Ooo another camel oxter or alligator anus eating thing

Ant and dec sour faces

Advert.


Captain cash and his cabin for a biscuit each....if l7cks on your side.

No models to watch as they shower captain cabins goo of of them in the afternoon sunlight..

Adverts


Oh look, a ****ing sack full of ****e coming down from above, lets get slightly tetchy as wee cook it, and make it when we eat these cow danglers.

Advert.


Oooo its ant and dec walking up a path in the jungle..wonder who's going home to eat their ridiculously fat pay cheque.

End of show.

[Zizu]

I fast forward all the Ant-Dec stuff as I can’t abide their forced humour .. I also fast forward the tasks unless they involve snakes … that leaves all the interaction/dialogue in the camp which I find intriguing


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[Vanessa]

La cucaraca, la cucaraca :dance:

[Crimson Dynamo]

She owns a coffee shop near me with her wife and is lovely apparently. Any kids who want a selfie etc she is only too happy to do and spends time chatting with everyone

she isnt remotely famous

id hope she did

[Vanessa]

Matt : l don't recommend it as a main course :joker::joker:

[GoldHeart]

BG had to eat 6 of each to make up for Hancock eating insects & animals private bits ,I'm weak :skull: . Now do people see why it should be 2 meat eaters .

[Crimson Dynamo]

i hate when they all pretend to empathise

[joeysteele]

This shouldn't really be permitted this discussion.
There's an independent inquiry going on and Hancock will be called to testify at it.

I'm not sure how I feel about Hancock tonight.
I'd like to be there talking to him, not publicly.
Just to have an in depth discussion on things.

Because I think he really would like to say more, I'd like to know what he is not getting out IF he is holding back on anything.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This shouldn't really be permitted this discussion.
There's an independent inquiry going on and Hancock will be called to testify at it.

I'm not sure how I feel about Hancock tonight.
I'd like to be there talking to him, not publicly.
Just to have an in depth discussion on things.

Because I think he really would like to say more, I'd like to know what he is not getting out IF he is holding back on anything.

he is literally trying to get off the hook

i fell in love

I have never heard such utter weasel bull%hit

[joeysteele]

he is literally trying to get off the hook

i fell in love

I have never heard such utter weasel bull%hit

Maybe.

I would say you are more right there.

[Mystic Mock]

Ant and deck whoohoo..so funny.

Advert.


Wee bit more ant and dec, tension who's gonna be getting the task...we already know..


Adverts.

Ooo another camel oxter or alligator anus eating thing

Ant and dec sour faces

Advert.


Captain cash and his cabin for a biscuit each....if l7cks on your side.

No models to watch as they shower captain cabins goo of of them in the afternoon sunlight..

Adverts


Oh look, a ****ing sack full of ****e coming down from above, lets get slightly tetchy as wee cook it, and make it when we eat these cow danglers.

Advert.


Oooo its ant and dec walking up a path in the jungle..wonder who's going home to eat their ridiculously fat pay cheque.

End of show.

I honestly never understand why TV Shows get broke up by so many Adverts.

I'd personally prefer the Adverts to be done before and after an episode rather than during the episode.

[Beso]

Its getting to the stage where the adverts are sometimes the highlight of the show, mock.

[GoldHeart]

Maybe.

I would say you are more right there.

Thing is Joey ....they need to drop the Hancock grilling now.
This will backfire on them , tonight I kept thinking
Please don't start the Croco tears Hancock, I can't bear the cringe.
Notice how he was trying to gain sympathy, with the whole hugging and "oh it's been emotional" tripe, his expression was like stone though :notimpressed: .

Chris , Charlene etc need to stop going on about it now , they've questioned him ..and they need to just move on now . We all know Hancock is full of slimy excuses ,I rolled my eyes literally hearing him wriggle his way out tonight :rolleyes: .

[Zizu]

I honestly never understand why TV Shows get broke up by so many Adverts.

I'd personally prefer the Adverts to be done before and after an episode rather than during the episode.


£££££


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[joeysteele]

Thing is Joey ....they need to drop the Hancock grilling now.
This will backfire on them , tonight I kept thinking
Please don't start the Croco tears Hancock, I can't bear the cringe.
Notice how he was trying to gain sympathy, with the whole hugging and "oh it's been emotional" tripe, his expression was like stone though :notimpressed: .

Chris , Charlene etc need to stop going on about it now , they've questioned him ..and they need to just move on now . We all know Hancock is full of slimy excuses ,I rolled my eyes literally hearing him wriggle his way out tonight :rolleyes: .

Absolutely.

I just got the feeling he'd like to have said more
I'm left wondering what he left unsaid.

[Mystic Mock]

Its getting to the stage where the adverts are sometimes the highlight of the show, mock.

:joker:

Unless it's those awful Nationwide ones.

[Mystic Mock]

£££££


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But can't they do those 5-8 minute Ads before an episode starts and after an episode has finished?

This goes for all programmes, not just IAC, it'd honestly help the Shows get more content into the episodes.

[GoldHeart]

Absolutely.

I just got the feeling he'd like to have said more
I'm left wondering what he left unsaid.

He's a typical politician Joey ,I don't think he'll ever be honest or level with them . Even off camera he'll probably still be worming his way out of it ,I think if he's had a few drinks ... possibly then he'd be a little candid .

But you heard that daft wolly Sean asking him about MP's and their preparation & questioning , and Hancock pretty much said there's certain things they do ( aka to avoid difficult questions) , and blah blah . Hancock is clearly proud of himself for bllsh1tting his way in politics.

[rusticgal]

Well it’s good to see all these self righteous campmates are willing to forgive and forget Boy Georges criminal offences and worship the ground he walks on… I haven’t heard the formidable journalist Charlene questioned him on his past crime??…has he ever shown remorse?….he never even apologised to the poor lad he held against his will and beat up….
But let’s continue to batter a politician who has regrets over some of the things he did as part of a team…but was the man who pushed for the vaccines that saved thousands of lives.
From what I have seen on Social media there are many that are supporting him…and I hope it backfires on those that have an inability to see him on another level from one human being to another.

[joeysteele]

He's a typical politician Joey ,I don't think he'll ever be honest or level with them . Even off camera he'll probably still be worming his way out of it ,I think if he's had a few drinks ... possibly then he'd be a little candid .

But you heard that daft wolly Sean asking him about MP's and their preparation & questioning , and Hancock pretty much said there's certain things they do ( aka to avoid difficult questions) , and blah blah . Hancock is clearly proud of himself for bllsh1tting his way in politics.


I agree.

Indeed I'd like to so see a big change come from losing more of the typical politicians who fail so badly the Nation and to get ones who would really work FOR the people not for themselves once they get power.

[Zizu]

But can't they do those 5-8 minute Ads before an episode starts and after an episode has finished?

This goes for all programmes, not just IAC, it'd honestly help the Shows get more content into the episodes.


Everyone would turn off or leave the room if they were that long ..whereas you will sit through a few minutes of ads


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[joeysteele]

Well it’s good to see all these self righteous campmates are willing to forgive and forget Boy Georges criminal offences and worship the ground he walks on… I haven’t heard the formidable journalist Charlene questioned him on his past crime??…has he ever shown remorse?….he never even apologised to the poor lad he held against his will and beat up….
But let’s continue to batter a politician who has regrets over some of the things he did as part of a team…but was the man who pushed for the vaccines that saved thousands of lives.
From what I have seen on Social media there are many that are supporting him…and I hope it backfires on those that have an inability to see him on another level from one human being to another.

I can't bear Boy George and I'm sickened at the sort of adulation he's getting.
You're right no one is digging his ugly mess up.

I said earlier I don't know what I think of Matt Hancock tonight.
First off again he fully delivered in the task tonight.
Full credit to him there.

I have my personal gripe as to him.
However tonight I'd have liked to go off and talk to him privately as he seemed to want to open up more.
Maybe I'm hoping more than being right but to me he did seem to want to say more.

I honestly don't know what I'm thinking of him after tonight.
I really don't.

Anyhow yes,Boy George getting a really easy ride as you say.

[Zizu]

Well it’s good to see all these self righteous campmates are willing to forgive and forget Boy Georges criminal offences and worship the ground he walks on… I haven’t heard the formidable journalist Charlene questioned him on his past crime??…has he ever shown remorse?….he never even apologised to the poor lad he held against his will and beat up….
But let’s continue to batter a politician who has regrets over some of the things he did as part of a team…but was the man who pushed for the vaccines that saved thousands of lives.
From what I have seen on Social media there are many that are supporting him…and I hope it backfires on those that have an inability to see him on another level from one human being to another.


Maybe they could give George a task where he’s chained up to a radiator


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[rusticgal]

Maybe they could give George a task where he’s chained up to a radiator


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Well that would be interesting…

[Zizu]

Well that would be interesting…


If would at least trigger a conversation


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[GoldHeart]

I agree.

Indeed I'd like to so see a big change come from losing more of the typical politicians who fail so badly the Nation and to get ones who would really work FOR the people not for themselves once they get power.

It's become the Hancock show, if anything seeing him complete trials ... should STOP people voting him. But like every year we always have the same person as the serial trialist ,and it gets boring.

I predicted Owen getting voted aswell ,he should be careful what he wishes for ,he kept sulking about not doing a trial ...and now he looks surprised at actually getting picked.

Hancock will last a while in camp ,I think he'll get to the final 6 ...he's going to beat a few others who will leave before him .

[jet]

Well it’s good to see all these self righteous campmates are willing to forgive and forget Boy Georges criminal offences and worship the ground he walks on… I haven’t heard the formidable journalist Charlene questioned him on his past crime??…has he ever shown remorse?….he never even apologised to the poor lad he held against his will and beat up….
But let’s continue to batter a politician who has regrets over some of the things he did as part of a team…but was the man who pushed for the vaccines that saved thousands of lives.
From what I have seen on Social media there are many that are supporting him…and I hope it backfires on those that have an inability to see him on another level from one human being to another.

Spot on!....and yep, he is getting quite a bit of support, people saying they didn't want to like him but they now do!

[rusticgal]

If would at least trigger a conversation


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Sadly it wouldn’t….no one is BIG enough to question him on it….which is why they are coming across as hypocrites and bullies.

[rusticgal]

Spot on!....and yep, he is getting quite a bit of support, people saying they didn't want to like him but they now do!


That’s a lot of what I have been reading. If he survives the first few eliminations the campmates might have a change of attitude…:laugh:

[jet]

Charlene was practically accusing Matt and the Gov. of being responsible for her relatives death! Honestly, you take an unprecedented, horrendous situation like the pandemic and the Gov. can only rely on scientific experts to advise them on how to deal with it all - they could only follow their advice - but to hear people throw accusations at them you would think the likes of Boris and Matt set out to deliberately commit mass murder and keep them away from their loved ones for badness.
They didn’t make the decisions, they were the fall guys who had to deliver them, meanwhile the ‘experts’ hide in the shadows.
As for the good that Matt did, that is of course not mentioned at all...

As for breaking lockdown rules, he made a mistake and apologised. Not good enough for the at one time £700,000 a year tax dodger Moyles who started the grilling of Matt in the first place in front of everyone to get in the public’s good books imo. I haven’t seen anything nice about him so far at all.

[arista]

Tonight, Hancock plugged his new book


the whole reason he is in there

[GoldHeart]

Well it’s good to see all these self righteous campmates are willing to forgive and forget Boy Georges criminal offences and worship the ground he walks on… I haven’t heard the formidable journalist Charlene questioned him on his past crime??…has he ever shown remorse?….he never even apologised to the poor lad he held against his will and beat up….
But let’s continue to batter a politician who has regrets over some of the things he did as part of a team…but was the man who pushed for the vaccines that saved thousands of lives.
From what I have seen on Social media there are many that are supporting him…and I hope it backfires on those that have an inability to see him on another level from one human being to another.

I don't think I've ever seen campmates talk about criminal records, Either it's not allowed or it wouldn't get aired anyway. Especially with the ridiculous whopping fees ,what would that look like. Their contract probably plays a big part.

And most of the campmates ,have realised now that they might aswell just get on with things re: Hancock... Scarlett said she'll probably not be friends outside the Jungle ,but inside it's different as they're a team .

I don't want it to backfire on them , everyone will feel a certain way in the jungle because the pandemic affected us all and Hancock was at the centre . And obviously memories of their loved ones are in the front of their minds, but they should just move on now . Hancock isn't going to say anything new.

[GoldHeart]

Tonight, Hancock plugged his new book


the whole reason he is in there

Yeah pretty much it seems :rolleyes: .

[Mystic Mock]

Well it’s good to see all these self righteous campmates are willing to forgive and forget Boy Georges criminal offences and worship the ground he walks on… I haven’t heard the formidable journalist Charlene questioned him on his past crime??…has he ever shown remorse?….he never even apologised to the poor lad he held against his will and beat up….
But let’s continue to batter a politician who has regrets over some of the things he did as part of a team…but was the man who pushed for the vaccines that saved thousands of lives.
From what I have seen on Social media there are many that are supporting him…and I hope it backfires on those that have an inability to see him on another level from one human being to another.

Tbf to the campmates, nearly everyone in the country at one point was against Hancock because his conduct was ridiculous, and was harming everyone in the country.

Where as while Boy George's behaviour was disgusting (I genuinely believe that) he harmed one individual.

Add in the recency bias of Hancock's conduct, of course he is facing the brunt of the camp, him, Boris & the rest of the Tory party had been running a **** show.

[GoldHeart]

Tbf to the campmates, nearly everyone in the country at one point was against Hancock because his conduct was ridiculous, and was harming everyone in the country.

Where as while Boy George's behaviour was disgusting (I genuinely believe that) he harmed one individual.

Add in the recency bias of Hancock's conduct, of course he is facing the brunt of the camp, him, Boris & the rest of the Tory party had been running a **** show.

Yep pretty much this Mock exactly

Overall the government has left a sour taste in alot of people's mouths for a long time, but the pandemic really highlighted the sh1t show .

[Mystic Mock]

Everyone would turn off or leave the room if they were that long ..whereas you will sit through a few minutes of ads


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Oh I don't, I fast forward through them on recordings.

After all I'm watching TV for the TV Shows, not the Adverts.:joker:

Obvious exceptions for things that I'm personally interested in, but I think that would go for anyone tbh.

[jet]

Tonight, Hancock plugged his new book


the whole reason he is in there

I think Chris Moyles asked him was he writing a book - it wasn't Matt who brought it up? :

[Mystic Mock]

Charlene was practically accusing Matt and the Gov. of being responsible for her relatives death! Honestly, you take an unprecedented, horrendous situation like the pandemic and the Gov. can only rely on scientific experts to advise them on how to deal with it all - they could only follow their advice - but to hear people throw accusations at them you would think the likes of Boris and Matt set out to deliberately commit mass murder and keep them away from their loved ones for badness.
They didn’t make the decisions, they were the fall guys who had to deliver them, meanwhile the ‘experts’ hide in the shadows.
As for the good that Matt did, that is of course not mentioned at all...

As for breaking lockdown rules, he made a mistake and apologised. Not good enough for the at one time £700,000 a year tax dodger Moyles who started the grilling of Matt in the first place in front of everyone to get in the public’s good books imo. I haven’t seen anything nice about him so far at all.

Are you seriously comparing Tax Evasion to a Health Secretary not following his own health code during a Pandemic?

Maybe it's just me, but I think that the former is a much more tame offence.

[jet]

Tbf to the campmates, nearly everyone in the country at one point was against Hancock because his conduct was ridiculous, and was harming everyone in the country.

Where as while Boy George's behaviour was disgusting (I genuinely believe that) he harmed one individual.

Add in the recency bias of Hancock's conduct, of course he is facing the brunt of the camp, him, Boris & the rest of the Tory party had been running a **** show.

How so?

[GoldHeart]

How so?

Because it affected our daily lives ,the joke of a government were who we were meant to trust in this crisis.

[Mystic Mock]

Yep pretty much this Mock exactly

Overall the government has left a sour taste in alot of people's mouths for a long time, but the pandemic really highlighted the sh1t show .

Exactly.

Only on a Reality TV Show could the guy who helped make people's lives horrible over the last few years to then break laws that he helped make, be defended over the people that rightly take issue with that.:joker:

[jet]

Are you seriously comparing Tax Evasion to a Health Secretary not following his own health code during a Pandemic?

Maybe it's just me, but I think that the former is a much more tame offence.

Not comparing, saying that nobody is perfect, even health ministers.

[Mystic Mock]

How so?

Not following the measures that he helped create for starters?

[Kate!]

Personally I'd rather have Matt than Chris Moyles. I can't stand him.

[jet]

Because it affected our daily lives ,the joke of a government were who we were meant to trust in this crisis.

You mean the Gov fall guys who trusted the advice of the pandemic experts....

[Mystic Mock]

Because it affected our daily lives ,the joke of a government were who we were meant to trust in this crisis.

You've explained it perfectly imo.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

Not comparing, saying that nobody is perfect, even health ministers.

I agree with you on that point.

[GoldHeart]

Not comparing, saying that nobody is perfect, even health ministers.

If it's that difficult to follow rules & guidelines, especially his own rules then there's something really wrong.

His ridiculous excuse of " falling in love" , just doesn't cut it and it's weak.

I've said this before ...but the entire government seemed to be laughing in our faces,they set these rules & restrictions and expected us mere peasants to follow them. whilst they can have affairs , parties & go galavanting to Barnard Castle .... like seriously ?!. How does 1 government make that many ' mistakes' though? .


Hancock actually looks smug & proud of his 'covid book' ,just wow :bored: .

[jet]

Exactly.

Only on a Reality TV Show could the guy who helped make people's lives horrible over the last few years to then break laws that he helped make, be defended over the people that rightly take issue with that.:joker:

Do you think that he did that because he is an evil sadist, or because he trusted advice from pandemic experts who were assigned to guide his decisions?

[joeysteele]

The government brought in the policy of sending the elderly back out to the Care Homes.
Which in itself shouldn't have been a problem.
IF they were fit to be sent home.

That was the policy and the government of whom Johnson was PM and Hancock the Health Minister.
One couldn't act without the other.
The issue is the policy was enacted WITHOUT testing those elderly for covid before they were sent out.

They went back to the Care homes then with covid and infected staff and the other residents.
My own Aunt was one of them who was infected by those coming out of hospital and my Aunt died.
My Mum couldn't go to see her as she was ill or dying and also could not travel to her area for the funeral either.
Because of the LAWS in place.

Hancock had insisted there was a protective ring round care homes which was an absolute blatant lie.
There was NIOT.

That policy was taken to court and was judged unlawful by the court.
The government didn't challenge that judgement.

It will be for the full public independent inquiry to now hear all the chaos of the pandemic made worse by this government's incompetence on the Care homes issue,
The desperate lack of protective equipment which Hancock stated was sorted on Question time, yet it wasn't.
The chaos continued for weeks.

The bereaved families who have further evidence of the government's directive on getting the elderly out of hospital to Care homes without first testing for covid.
Which bluntly killed across the Country other residents will also be putting that evidence to this inquiry when it eventually starts to actually hear from those with the evidence of that unlawful policy which helped kill their loved ones.
Who should have been totally safe and protected in Care Homes.

If Hancock was really sorry he'd admit that unlawful policy and see face to face those bereaved families which he does not just as Johnson has refused all through to do so too.
Except for ones he knows are less contentious issues from a small number of bereaved families.

This government Johnson as PM and Hancock his Health secretary too.
The main duo at the helm.
Brought in that policy and they cut corners which then cost the elderly in Care Homes lives.
That is UNFORGIVABLE and should be too.
The fact it was found to be unlawful in court is a further indictment to that duo at the helm.

People can dismiss those losses of lives lightly if they wish.
The facts are it IS by the courts judged an unlawful policy.
Government's and PMs and Secretaries of State make policy and enact them.
So far neither Johnson nor Hancock have addressed this in full.
They will have to answer at the public inquiry.

If Hancock really wants forgiveness as he said last night.
Go out and seek it from those he knows are bereaved and who lost loved ones unnecessarily in Care homes.
By HIS and his Prime Minister's enacted policy.
AND tell the damned real truth at last especially about the individual who was his Prime Minister at the time too.

That's my gripe with him on my own personal loss of my Aunt.
Who would NOT have died had other residents not been rushed out of hospitals back to Care Homes and not tested for covid first.
On government directive of that policy.
Speed being of the essence.

My Aunt was only going to be in for a few months while her bungalow was being fitted with mobility aids.
She never came out and we never got to see her again once covid laws from Johnson and Hancock were enforced on everyone.

However on the show, his determination to do right in the trials is admirable
I will give him that.
He's on a show and giving his all.

However his own wrongs (PLURAL ), on his handling of the elderly in Care Homes and his deceit and lies as to their protection not admirable at all.

[AnnieK]

Matt Hancock has very carefully prepared answers for a lot of what he has been asked. He has gone in their to try and repair his public image and he knows the type of questions the campmates will ask as its what a lot of people are thinking. He has prepared thought out answers for the whys and hows etc. He's a politician and used to having these types of discussions about his and the Govs actions.

As a bloke, he seems a nice enough bloke but he was the one of the main "faces" of a team that put us in lockdown, gave lucrative contracts to their mates and broke the guidance they put in place. Its still fresh in everyone's minds and effected everyone's lives in the country. That's why people are as bothered about Boy George's crimes, it was a long time ago and didn't affect them all. As sad as it is, that's the crux, its easier to forgive someone for their actions that don't affect you peraonally. It's wrong but true.

[bots]

People will never forgive or forget where Hancock is concerned and appearing on a reality show was never going to achieve that

[Zizu]

Sadly it wouldn’t….no one is BIG enough to question him on it….which is why they are coming across as hypocrites and bullies.


Yeah George is a bruiser under all that makeup


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[Zizu]

Charlene was practically accusing Matt and the Gov. of being responsible for her relatives death! Honestly, you take an unprecedented, horrendous situation like the pandemic and the Gov. can only rely on scientific experts to advise them on how to deal with it all - they could only follow their advice - but to hear people throw accusations at them you would think the likes of Boris and Matt set out to deliberately commit mass murder and keep them away from their loved ones for badness.
They didn’t make the decisions, they were the fall guys who had to deliver them, meanwhile the ‘experts’ hide in the shadows.
As for the good that Matt did, that is of course not mentioned at all...

As for breaking lockdown rules, he made a mistake and apologised. Not good enough for the at one time £700,000 a year tax dodger Moyles who started the grilling of Matt in the first place in front of everyone to get in the public’s good books imo. I haven’t seen anything nice about him so far at all.


They could have a game where they all have to tell the STORY behind the headline ..

Then there could be 11 news headlines on a tree … “ this person chained a guy to a radiator “ …. “ this person dodged paying £700,000 tax “ etc etc


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[Zizu]

I think Chris Moyles asked him was he writing a book - it wasn't Matt who brought it up? :


Correct


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[Kazanne]

Well it’s good to see all these self righteous campmates are willing to forgive and forget Boy Georges criminal offences and worship the ground he walks on… I haven’t heard the formidable journalist Charlene questioned him on his past crime??…has he ever shown remorse?….he never even apologised to the poor lad he held against his will and beat up….
But let’s continue to batter a politician who has regrets over some of the things he did as part of a team…but was the man who pushed for the vaccines that saved thousands of lives.
From what I have seen on Social media there are many that are supporting him…and I hope it backfires on those that have an inability to see him on another level from one human being to another.

Great Post rustic. Its a shame some just put their own spin on things just because he is a Tory. Chris Moyles has gone down in my estimation aswell as Charlene. She's probably scared to ask Boy George incase he loses it infact he'd probably tell her to fook off, it's strange how some prefer an abuser to a politicion who made mistakes. 6

[Zizu]

The government brought in the policy of sending the elderly back out to the Care Homes.
Which in itself shouldn't have been a problem.
IF they were fit to be sent home.

That was the policy and the government of whom Johnson was PM and Hancock the Health Minister.
One couldn't act without the other.
The issue is the policy was enacted WITHOUT testing those elderly for covid before they were sent out.

They went back to the Care homes then with covid and infected staff and the other residents.
My own Aunt was one of them who was infected by those coming out of hospital and my Aunt died.
My Mum couldn't go to see her as she was ill or dying and also could not travel to her area for the funeral either.
Because of the LAWS in place.

Hancock had insisted there was a protective ring round care homes which was an absolute blatant lie.
There was NIOT.

That policy was taken to court and was judged unlawful by the court.
The government didn't challenge that judgement.

It will be for the full public independent inquiry to now hear all the chaos of the pandemic made worse by this government's incompetence on the Care homes issue,
The desperate lack of protective equipment which Hancock stated was sorted on Question time, yet it wasn't.
The chaos continued for weeks.

The bereaved families who have further evidence of the government's directive on getting the elderly out of hospital to Care homes without first testing for covid.
Which bluntly killed across the Country other residents will also be putting that evidence to this inquiry when it eventually starts to actually hear from those with the evidence of that unlawful policy which helped kill their loved ones.
Who should have been totally safe and protected in Care Homes.

If Hancock was really sorry he'd admit that unlawful policy and see face to face those bereaved families which he does not just as Johnson has refused all through to do so too.
Except for ones he knows are less contentious issues from a small number of bereaved families.

This government Johnson as PM and Hancock his Health secretary too.
The main duo at the helm.
Brought in that policy and they cut corners which then cost the elderly in Care Homes lives.
That is UNFORGIVABLE and should be too.
The fact it was found to be unlawful in court is a further indictment to that duo at the helm.

People can dismiss those losses of lives lightly if they wish.
The facts are it IS by the courts judged an unlawful policy.
Government's and PMs and Secretaries of State make policy and enact them.
So far neither Johnson nor Hancock have addressed this in full.
They will have to answer at the public inquiry.

If Hancock really wants forgiveness as he said last night.
Go out and seek it from those he knows are bereaved and who lost loved ones unnecessarily in Care homes.
By HIS and his Prime Minister's enacted policy.
AND tell the damned real truth at last especially about the individual who was his Prime Minister at the time too.

That's my gripe with him on my own personal loss of my Aunt.
Who would NOT have died had other residents not been rushed out of hospitals back to Care Homes and not tested for covid first.
On government directive of that policy.
Speed being of the essence.

My Aunt was only going to be in for a few months while her bungalow was being fitted with mobility aids.
She never came out and we never got to see her again once covid laws from Johnson and Hancock were enforced on everyone.

However on the show, his determination to do right in the trials is admirable
I will give him that.
He's on a show and giving his all.

However his own wrongs (PLURAL ), on his handling of the elderly in Care Homes and his deceit and lies as to their protection not admirable at all.



Wasn’t the idea to keep everyone away from care homes a sensible idea though ?
Simply to stop or at least minimise the spread of Covid ?

What are we saying here ?


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[Kazanne]

If it's that difficult to follow rules & guidelines, especially his own rules then there's something really wrong.

His ridiculous excuse of " falling in love" , just doesn't cut it and it's weak.

I've said this before ...but the entire government seemed to be laughing in our faces,they set these rules & restrictions and expected us mere peasants to follow them. whilst they can have affairs , parties & go galavanting to Barnard Castle .... like seriously ?!. How does 1 government make that many ' mistakes' though? .


Hancock actually looks smug & proud of his 'covid book' ,just wow :bored: .

Seioualy, I think whoever it was you'd hate them if they were a Tory, bit surprised at you Goldheart you come across much harsher than I ever thought. What are your thoughts on BG Do you like him? No one is saying Hancock hasn't made mistakes but to blame him for people dying is ridiculous in my book. It was an unknown pandemic he was following guidance plus those homes could have said no but I guess the more they took the more money was generated for them, it's pretty lame to blame and hate on one man for it just because you don't like his party. Maybe we should stop lapping up all the media and press crap that's written all the time.

[joeysteele]

Seioualy, I think whoever it was you'd hate them if they were a Tory, bit surprised at you Goldheart you come across much harsher than I ever thought. What are your thoughts on BG Do you like him? No one is saying Hancock hasn't made mistakes but to blame him for people dying is ridiculous in my book. It was an unknown pandemic he was following guidance plus those homes could have said no but I guess the more they took the more money was generated for them, it's pretty lame to blame and hate on one man for it just because you don't like his party. Maybe we should stop lapping up all the media and press crap that's written all the time.

There's mistakes of varying degrees Kazanne.

Mistakes that cost old people's or any ages lives have a higher degree than just a slip up that can be put right.

The court NOT the media found the policy unlawful to send Care home residents out of hospital without testing for covid back to Care homes.
Thereby infecting the others there.

I KNOW not from media or anywhere else what happened to my Aunt and I saw the pain and distress that caused my Mother.
She never got over it.

I would be hammering whatever PM and Health secretary of any Party who enacted that policy.
Not making excuses for them and piling more hurt and insult onto those who lost any loved ones because of that now proven in the Court unlawful policy.

Blind loyalty should not allow people to lose their lives unnecessarily
I'd give no one and NO Political Party that.

[Denver]

People will never forgive or forget where Hancock is concerned and appearing on a reality show was never going to achieve that

They will show him forgiveness by making him King of the Jungle, its been obvious for days its heading that way

[joeysteele]

Wasn’t the idea to keep everyone away from care homes a sensible idea though ?
Simply to stop or at least minimise the spread of Covid ?

What are we saying here ?


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If you can't get my point there's really not much point in explaining.

However the policy enacted by Johnson and Hancock put Care Home staff and residents in more danger.

Ignore the Care home deaths evidence all you like.
However Hancock blatantly lied too when he said there was a protective ring round Care homes.
It turns out, and as the Courts heard and judged that they WERE NOT protected at all.
Not even as to proper protective equipment too.
Because there was next to no protective equipment to be even got from Johnson and Hancock's bad planning and preparation for this coming.

[arista]

Oh I don't, I fast forward through them on recordings.

After all I'm watching TV for the TV Shows, not the Adverts.:joker:

Obvious exceptions for things that I'm personally interested in, but I think that would go for anyone tbh.


Even On Live TV
on SkyHD
when ads start Pause for 4 mins
then play.

[GoldHeart]

Seioualy, I think whoever it was you'd hate them if they were a Tory, bit surprised at you Goldheart you come across much harsher than I ever thought. What are your thoughts on BG Do you like him? No one is saying Hancock hasn't made mistakes but to blame him for people dying is ridiculous in my book. It was an unknown pandemic he was following guidance plus those homes could have said no but I guess the more they took the more money was generated for them, it's pretty lame to blame and hate on one man for it just because you don't like his party. Maybe we should stop lapping up all the media and press crap that's written all the time.

"Harsher" ?? Seriously. And no I don't blame 1 man I blame the government,but Boris & Hancock were at the centre of it with their cronies.

You keep saying Hancock 'made mistakes ' ,but he kept talking about 'finding love' instead, and he kept downplaying it,he even said at one point that he 'didn't' break guidelines , we all know if he wasn't caught out he would have happily continued breaking rules ,same as Boris & Cummings etc .

So let's rewind back 2 years shall we , and just supposing one of us broke lockdown rules unvaccinated before the vaccine was rolled out ,and caught and passed COVID on ?? .

Also there was alot of lies & deceit, whoever was in power whether it's the Tory's , labour etc I would have still been annoyed. As it seems they can't answer a straight question or be totally honest. Joey has put it perfectly on the matter .

It's not about the media, it's what we've seen and heard . The NHS struggled for a long time lack of PPE . And I also think the government knew about COVID for longer than they're letting on.

As for BG , you obviously haven't read my posts if you think I'm a fan of his. I've never said anything nice about him . Maybe look at Ant & Dec breaking out into 'karma chameleon ' every 2 seconds ,as they're both being a little cringy there , especially with the harmonica that someone should take off Ant.

At the end of the day the pandemic is still fresh in people's minds as it affected us all ,it was and IS still around . Albeit not as serious,but people are still catching COVID,and people will naturally feel more strongly towards Hancock .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Personally I'd rather have Matt than Chris Moyles. I can't stand him.

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[arista]

"It was an unknown pandemic"

Very True Kaz.

[GoldHeart]

"It was an unknown pandemic"

Very True Kaz.

All the more reason to get their finger out & take is seriously, when swine flu & foot & mouth was a big thing, people were scared. And we all knew we had to be careful.

I remember being on a school trip ..and a farmer telling us we couldn't go further due to foot & mouth disease.

When there was the worry of Ebola ,it actually made people wary ,even Bob Geldof did a PSA practically warning people it could come on a plane here .

When COVID came about, there's was confusing mixed messages. Some people didn't understand how severe the virus was.

[arista]

All the more reason to get their finger out & take is seriously, when swine flu & foot & mouth was a big thing, people were scared. And we all knew we had to be careful.

I remember being on a school trip ..and a farmer telling us we couldn't go further due to foot & mouth disease.

When there was the worry of Ebola ,it actually made people wary ,even Bob Geldof did a PSA practically warning people it could come on a plane here .

When COVID came about, there's was confusing mixed messages. Some people didn't understand how severe the virus was.


Yes, the same went down in the USA.

[rusticgal]

Tonight, Hancock plugged his new book


the whole reason he is in there


....Someone asked him IF he was bringing a book out which is why he mentioned it.

[rusticgal]

Exactly.

Only on a Reality TV Show could the guy who helped make people's lives horrible over the last few years to then break laws that he helped make, be defended over the people that rightly take issue with that.:joker:


THEY made peoples lives horrible !!! The Pandemic made peoples lives horrible and the Government tried to make the right decisions to protect people. Do you seriously think they deliberately set out to kill people and make peoples lives a misery???
Good grief...people seriously need to get things into some sort of perspective.
He broke his own guidence rules for which he resigned.
People focus heavily on not being able to have been with a dying relative...it must have been heartbreaking...but it was a means of safeguarding the spread of a disease that was killing people by the millions. Had Hancock been to visit his dying mother during this time then I could understand the hatred and resentment...but he didn't.

[rusticgal]

Great Post rustic. Its a shame some just put their own spin on things just because he is a Tory. Chris Moyles has gone down in my estimation aswell as Charlene. She's probably scared to ask Boy George incase he loses it infact he'd probably tell her to fook off, it's strange how some prefer an abuser to a politicion who made mistakes. 6


Its called bullying Kaz....the way people are talking about him you would think he had commited Mass Murder.
He kissed his lover and broke his governments own rule...he resigned and apologised. I bet at least half of those Campmates broke them too...they were just lucky enough not to get caught on Camera.

[rusticgal]

Seioualy, I think whoever it was you'd hate them if they were a Tory, bit surprised at you Goldheart you come across much harsher than I ever thought. What are your thoughts on BG Do you like him? No one is saying Hancock hasn't made mistakes but to blame him for people dying is ridiculous in my book. It was an unknown pandemic he was following guidance plus those homes could have said no but I guess the more they took the more money was generated for them, it's pretty lame to blame and hate on one man for it just because you don't like his party. Maybe we should stop lapping up all the media and press crap that's written all the time.



:thumbs:

[Vanessa]

All the more reason to get their finger out & take is seriously, when swine flu & foot & mouth was a big thing, people were scared. And we all knew we had to be careful.

I remember being on a school trip ..and a farmer telling us we couldn't go further due to foot & mouth disease.

When there was the worry of Ebola ,it actually made people wary ,even Bob Geldof did a PSA practically warning people it could come on a plane here .

When COVID came about, there's was confusing mixed messages. Some people didn't understand how severe the virus was.
But that happened everywhere. When covid hit, it was a completely new disease. No one knew what to do, until the vaccine.
In Italy there have been a lot of covid deaths at the beginning.
I remember the lorries full of bodies filling the streets.

[Vanessa]

Its called bullying Kaz....the way people are talking about him you would think he had commited Mass Murder.
He kissed his lover and broke his governments own rule...he resigned and apologised. I bet at least half of those Campmates broke them too...they were just lucky enough not to get caught on Camera.

I like him. He has shown real guts, is always polite and never complains. And he's quite funny.

[GoldHeart]

Its called bullying Kaz....the way people are talking about him you would think he had commited Mass Murder.
He kissed his lover and broke his governments own rule...he resigned and apologised. I bet at least half of those Campmates broke them too...they were just lucky enough not to get caught on Camera.

I'm so fed up of the 'bullying' thing , that word seems to get thrown around alot . This is NOT bullying come on now :rolleyes:.

But it's definitely working in Hancock's favour now,as he will & is getting sympathy it seems. Despite him not caring one bit about it all . His expression was like a brick.

He chose to go in the jungle aswell , nobody forced him. He knew people would question him, and he said rehearsed it . like I said I hope they drop it now ...as it's just going round in circles and we're not getting anywhere.

[GoldHeart]

But that happened everywhere. When covid hit, it was a completely new disease. No one knew what to do, until the vaccine.
In Italy there have been a lot of covid deaths at the beginning.
I remember the lorries full of bodies filling the streets.

Yeah it was a complete mess elsewhere for sure , that's what makes even more terrible. The virus was clearly out of control.

[AnnieK]

Yeah, its nowhere close to bullying. I hate ut whrn oeople throw that word around. It demeans what people, mainly kids, are going through who are ACTUALLY being bullied. He has been questioned about his actions and decisions, as a Politician he'll have faced far worse questioning in the HoC. Let's face it, many many thousands of people are thinking the things he is being asked. He chose ti go in, knowing he would be questioned.

Sean Walsh was questioned over the Katya kiss thing, he answered honestly and said he knew it was going to be mentioned.

No one is being bullied....that's where people need to get a grip.

[GoldHeart]

Its called bullying Kaz....the way people are talking about him you would think he had commited Mass Murder.
He kissed his lover and broke his governments own rule...he resigned and apologised. I bet at least half of those Campmates broke them too...they were just lucky enough not to get caught on Camera.

You keep whistling about other campmates 'breaking rules', which yeah maybe they did in lockdown. But by sounds of it a few of them followed the rules as they couldn't & didn't visit their families & ill relatives, plus funerals aswell.

People's mental health was affected, plenty stayed isolated and had to just zoom call people.

And the other campmates were not the ones setting these guidelines in place ,there were not the ones running the country ... unlike Boris & his friends.

So surely they should set a good example, yes they'll always be people ignoring rules & not giving a damn .

But I remember at the time ..... weren't we told to basically report gatherings & snitch on your neighbors. People didn't want to spread the virus or get fined for breaking rules :shrug: .

[GoldHeart]

Yeah, its nowhere close to bullying. I hate ut whrn oeople throw that word around. It demeans what people, mainly kids, are going through who are ACTUALLY being bullied. He has been questioned about his actions and decisions, as a Politician he'll have faced far worse questioning in the HoC. Let's face it, many many thousands of people are thinking the things he is being asked. He chose ti go in, knowing he would be questioned.

Sean Walsh was questioned over the Katya kiss thing, he answered honestly and said he knew it was going to be mentioned.

No one is being bullied....that's where people need to get a grip.

:clap1:

[rusticgal]

Yeah, its nowhere close to bullying. I hate ut whrn oeople throw that word around. It demeans what people, mainly kids, are going through who are ACTUALLY being bullied. He has been questioned about his actions and decisions, as a Politician he'll have faced far worse questioning in the HoC. Let's face it, many many thousands of people are thinking the things he is being asked. He chose ti go in, knowing he would be questioned.

Sean Walsh was questioned over the Katya kiss thing, he answered honestly and said he knew it was going to be mentioned.

No one is being bullied....that's where people need to get a grip.

So you dont think there is pack mentality in there???...where there is pack mentality there is bullying. Charlene/Scarlette/Moyles/Sue/Mike and BG..

[AnnieK]

So you dont think there is pack mentality in there???...where there is pack mentality there is bullying. Charlene/Scarlette/Moyles/Sue/Mike and BG..

So is there pack mentality im the Houses of Parliament? Its part and parcel of being a politician. No, still not bullying in my view. Yes, he's been questioned but a lot have listened and taken on board what he has said. He said he went in to be closer to the electorate? Do you think many of the millions who have been directly affected by the rules he pushed and forced on them would have been polite and let him speak. I don't. If anything the questioning has done him good, he has been able to get his message to the masses in a far more articulate way than if he had been questioned by the public.

You say the other campmates could have broken lockdown but not been caught which is very true. But they could also have abided by the rules and guidance and as such had it negatively impact. They are as entitled to their views as Matt is to get his voice heard. Should they be fake? They'll soon be called out for that.

[GoldHeart]

So you dont think there is pack mentality in there???...where there is pack mentality there is bullying. Charlene/Scarlette/Moyles/Sue/Mike and BG..

Scarlett & Sue literally said they're dropping it ,they know they'll never be friends with him outside the jungle.

Hancock is not a little poor lamb ,he is NOT a victim & this is NOT bullying... again that word needs to stop getting thrown around like water. Real bullying is a terrible thing.

Hancock willingly went into the jungle knowing full well he'd be questioned, he wriggled & wormed his way out with weak excuses . He even got defensive at one point and made out he didn't do anything wrong, he doesn't want forgiveness ...he just wants people to like him .

I don't think he's sorry atall for what's happened, he just wants to gain a fan base.

[GoldHeart]

So is there pack mentality im the Houses of Parliament? Its part and parcel of being a politician. No, still not bullying in my view. Yes, he's been questioned but a lot have listened and taken on board what he has said. He said he went in to be closer to the electorate? Do you think many of the millions who have been directly affected by the rules he pushed and forced on them would have been polite and let him speak. I don't. If anything the questioning has done him good, he has been able to get his message to the masses in a far more articulate way than if he had been questioned by the public.

You say the other campmates could have broken lockdown but not been caught which is very true. But they could also have abided by the rules and guidance and as such had it negatively impact. They are as entitled to their views as Matt is to get his voice heard. Should they be fake? They'll soon be called out for that.

That's a good point aswell , some people will have felt uncomfortable to just pretend everything is ok and they would have been called 'hypocrites' , and felt they needed to get it off their chest . I think a few of them are content now to move on .

[joeysteele]

All the more reason to get their finger out & take is seriously, when swine flu & foot & mouth was a big thing, people were scared. And we all knew we had to be careful.

I remember being on a school trip ..and a farmer telling us we couldn't go further due to foot & mouth disease.

When there was the worry of Ebola ,it actually made people wary ,even Bob Geldof did a PSA practically warning people it could come on a plane here .

When COVID came about, there's was confusing mixed messages. Some people didn't understand how severe the virus was.

Totally right to all you say there.

I sort of wish the Hancock being seen in these tasks had been the way he was as health Secretary.
Sadly he wasn't not in any way.
He just followed his leader in deceit and blatant lying.

I'm longing for to see the independent public inquiry's final conclusions.
I also hope other proceedings will be recommended after it for Johnson and Hancock.
I feel pretty sure there will be.

Meanwhile though.
In this show at present his commitment to all he's asked to do here is beyond doubt.
I don't know if he's being genuine.
I'm not interested in any book, it's fine if he has one coming out.
I don't have to buy it or read any of it.

I would have liked to talk with him last night.
Because he said he wants forgiveness.
Really though for what and from whom?

Because since resigning he hasn't expressed that until now.
Forgiveness however from whom and how many and for what on his list of wrongs done as a Minister of the UK.

So I don't know if he's just playing to the gallery and not being genuine.
Or if he possibly could be at least trying to genuinely express even some regret.

I for one though can not forgive or forget at this time the devastation he brought to my Aunt's family and my Aunt creating the environment where she lost her life totally BEFORE her time.
Nor can I for the pain, hurt and distress that brought to my Mother on the loss of her Sister.
My Mum hasn't lived to see hopefully justice done in the end.
However I and multi thousands of others from bereaved and crushed families will present all to this public inquiry which Johnson has tried and tried to keep having kicked down the line.
Only just starting in 2023.
Because he and Hancock know what's coming.

If Hancock really wants forgiveness, well avoiding the bereaved families who know and have the proof of AVOIDABLE deaths of their loved ones isn't the really genuine way of seeking real forgiveness.

He didn't HAVE to do this show he chose to.
He is doing good in the tasks.
However he was always bound to open up wounds for many just by being on it.

Then again too trying to be as fair to him while I'm smouldering with anger towards him.
He really has to be very careful what he does say on this show re his time as Health Secretary.
Because as still an MP or not if he gives up.
He WILL be forced to give a full and truthful account of all things to the independent public inquiry.
So he can't really say much on the show in case it incriminates him further.

I've no doubt he came to love someone else as he said last night
That's no crime at all.
It's sad for his other family but that's no way anything I'd condemn him for.
It sadly happens.
I mean he was working with her, I don't think his guidelines break with her is that bad.

The policy I've harped on about today and which was found to be unlawful in Court.
That's his real issue and what is and should be the really serious condemnation of him as Health Secretary .
That's what he should be seeking forgiveness on.

[rusticgal]

You keep whistling about other campmates 'breaking rules', which yeah maybe they did in lockdown. But by sounds of it a few of them followed the rules as they couldn't & didn't visit their families & ill relatives, plus funerals aswell..




Of course they should have set an example...and MH resigned because of what he did.
Many did follow the rules...but many didn't and the chances are some of them in that camp didn't...
Did MH visit his family and ill relatives?...no. He had close contact with his lover in Government who were working as essential workers at a time that many of us were not...I bet there were millions who had close contact with friends and family when they really shouldnt have...so I will whistle on as much as I like.
If he had gone to visit his close relative in a Care home or hospital as they were dying or had a funeral with 60 attendees then I would get the 'hate'...but seriously people need to put this in perspective..he resigned over it but people like you seem to want blood...its just unreal.

[rusticgal]

Do you think many of the millions who have been directly affected by the rules he pushed and forced on them would have been polite and let him speak. I don't.



These rules were instigated by the Government,he happened to be the one to deliver them along with Boris. Those that were affected by the Rules were those that couldnt visit loved ones in Care homes and Hospitals...and those that couldnt go to a funeral. Those were the ones deeply affected... but it was a pandemic and as hard as it was it was the right thing to do as the elderly were most at risk...:shrug:
As I have just said had he broken one of these rules I would understand the hate....but he had close contact with work collegues...a rule break for which he resigned. Give the guy a break.

[GoldHeart]

Of course they should have set an example...and MH resigned because of what he did.
Many did follow the rules...but many didn't and the chances are some of them in that camp didn't...
Did MH visit his family and ill relatives?...no. He had close contact with his lover in Government who were working as essential workers at a time that many of us were not...I bet there were millions who had close contact with friends and family when they really shouldnt have...so I will whistle on as much as I like.
If he had gone to visit his close relative in a Care home or hospital as they were dying or had a funeral with 60 attendees then I would get the 'hate'...but seriously people need to put this in perspective..he resigned over it but people like you seem to want blood...its just unreal.

:joker: Yes I won't be satisfied until I have Hancock's blood .. sure ok. Hancock is nothing special, people will criticise him. If anything he should be used to it by now , you can't be thin skinned in politics.

Suddenly people defending other public figures isn't such a crazy concept anymore then ?? ...seen as we should leave poor little Hancock alone who actually impacted our lives ...aww bless :whistle: .

[rusticgal]

I think a few of them are content now to move on .

No they wont...they will just talk about him behind his back. Sue seems the only one out of the little pack to have said the Elephant has left the room and that she will move on...but we will see.

[GoldHeart]

Totally right to all you say there.

I sort of wish the Hancock being seen in these tasks had been the way he was as health Secretary.
Sadly he wasn't not in any way.
He just followed his leader in deceit and blatant lying.

I'm longing for to see the independent public inquiry's final conclusions.
I also hope other proceedings will be recommended after it for Johnson and Hancock.
I feel pretty sure there will be.

Meanwhile though.
In this show at present his commitment to all he's asked to do here is beyond doubt.
I don't know if he's being genuine.
I'm not interested in any book, it's fine if he has one coming out.
I don't have to buy it or read any of it.

I would have liked to talk with him last night.
Because he said he wants forgiveness.
Really though for what and from whom?

Because since resigning he hasn't expressed that until now.
Forgiveness however from whom and how many and for what on his list of wrongs done as a Minister of the UK.

So I don't know if he's just playing to the gallery and not being genuine.
Or if he possibly could be at least trying to genuinely express even some regret.

I for one though can not forgive or forget at this time the devastation he brought to my Aunt's family and my Aunt creating the environment where she lost her life totally BEFORE her time.
Nor can I for the pain, hurt and distress that brought to my Mother on the loss of her Sister.
My Mum hasn't lived to see hopefully justice done in the end.
However I and multi thousands of others from bereaved and crushed families will present all to this public inquiry which Johnson has tried and tried to keep having kicked down the line.
Only just starting in 2023.
Because he and Hancock know what's coming.

If Hancock really wants forgiveness, well avoiding the bereaved families who know and have the proof of AVOIDABLE deaths of their loved ones isn't the really genuine way of seeking real forgiveness.

He didn't HAVE to do this show he chose to.
He is doing good in the tasks.
However he was always bound to open up wounds for many just by being on it.

Then again too trying to be as fair to him while I'm smouldering with anger towards him.
He really has to be very careful what he does say on this show re his time as Health Secretary.
Because as still an MP or not if he gives up.
He WILL be forced to give a full and truthful account of all things to the independent public inquiry.
So he can't really say much on the show in case it incriminates him further.

I've no doubt he came to love someone else as he said last night
That's no crime at all.
It's sad for his other family but that's no way anything I'd condemn him for.
It sadly happens.
I mean he was working with her, I don't think his guidelines break with her is that bad.

The policy I've harped on about today and which was found to be unlawful in Court.
That's his real issue and what is and should be the really serious condemnation of him as Health Secretary .
That's what he should be seeking forgiveness on.

Joey I don't think Hancock is genuine at all , I think he just wants the public to support him for his own selfish reasons. Self promotion & he wants to be seen in another light,to reinvent himself. He's going to be one of these politicians known for being on reality TV shows.

Yes he's completing trials & doing the tasks, part of it is to try and redeem himself. But like you say plenty will still remember the pandemic,and what they had to go through.

As you said if he whole heartedly felt remorse ,then he would visit families etc and apologise and levelled with everyone about the lies & deceit he was peddling.

He also has a really casual attitude with the current state of things with the government, he told Charlene how "Rishi will be fine " , or "rishi is doing fine" or something to that effect ...even though he's only "been in 5 minutes " as Charlene put it .

[GoldHeart]

No they wont...they will just talk about him behind his back. Sue seems the only one out of the little pack to have said the Elephant has left the room and that she will move on...but we will see.

Sue wasn't the only one actually , Scarlett also said something similar along those lines.

And there's other campmates who just don't want to get involved , or they just want to enjoy their time there. Mike , Jill etc are just going with the flow ,I doubt they want any confrontation.

[AnnieK]

These rules were instigated by the Government,he happened to be the one to deliver them along with Boris. Those that were affected by the Rules were those that couldnt visit loved ones in Care homes and Hospitals...and those that couldnt go to a funeral. Those were the ones deeply affected... but it was a pandemic and as hard as it was it was the right thing to do as the elderly were most at risk...:shrug:
As I have just said had he broken one of these rules I would understand the hate....but he had close contact with work collegues...a rule break for which he resigned. Give the guy a break.

I'm not bothered about the rule he broke, I'm not bothered about the affair, these things happen, marriages end etc etc. I've said, he seems a nice guy but you (and he) can't expect him not to be questioned about the Pandemic. Its still fresh in people's minds, he made some dubious contract decisions, he was paid handsomely as Health Minister etc etc. They are not going to ignore all that.....as it would be fake. Are you honestly going to say that if you were in his company the subject would not come up? His job is the reason he is there.

[Zizu]

If you can't get my point there's really not much point in explaining.

However the policy enacted by Johnson and Hancock put Care Home staff and residents in more danger.

Ignore the Care home deaths evidence all you like.
However Hancock blatantly lied too when he said there was a protective ring round Care homes.
It turns out, and as the Courts heard and judged that they WERE NOT protected at all.
Not even as to proper protective equipment too.
Because there was next to no protective equipment to be even got from Johnson and Hancock's bad planning and preparation for this coming.

I’m not defending Hancock .. I’ve never even liked him but you haven’t answered my question ..

Covid was running riot throughout the country so why was it a bad idea to restrict visiting to care homes ?


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[joeysteele]

I’m not defending Hancock .. I’ve never even liked him but you haven’t answered my question ..

Covid was running riot throughout the country so why was it a bad idea to restrict visiting to care homes ?


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Oh good lord.
It wasn't a bad idea to stop visiting to care homes.

I'm on about how those elderly in Care Homes being put in grave danger when Johnson and Hancock had the elderly rushed out of hospitals back to Care homes to free up beds.
However not testing the hospital patients before they sent them out.

So the other residents of Care homes were infected and many lost their lives.

While they were dying, in the Care homes or taken back to hospital.
No relatives could be with them.
That's my point.
People weren't allowed to leave the house to visit or be there.
Not even to attend loved ones funerals.

[rusticgal]

I'm not bothered about the rule he broke, I'm not bothered about the affair, these things happen, marriages end etc etc. I've said, he seems a nice guy but you (and he) can't expect him not to be questioned about the Pandemic. Its still fresh in people's minds, he made some dubious contract decisions, he was paid handsomely as Health Minister etc etc. They are not going to ignore all that.....as it would be fake. Are you honestly going to say that if you were in his company the subject would not come up? His job is the reason he is there.

Of course its going to come up....where did I say it wouldn't?? Its the way its done by some people. Charlene and Scarlette have been extremely patronising in the way they have spoken to him since he has been in there...as for Moyes/Sue/BG and Mike they just bitch about him behind his back...I suppose Sue cleared her air last night and moved on...but some just wont be able to because it will keep them in his lime light :hee:

[rusticgal]

So is there pack mentality im the Houses of Parliament? .


Im sure there is....but I dont know. Im discussing the pack mentality that we are all witnessing on IACGMOOH :hee:

[arista]

[I for one though can not forgive or forget
at this time the devastation he brought
to my Aunt's family and my Aunt creating
the environment where she lost her life
totally BEFORE her time.]


Yes Joey
millions who have lost family to China's Covid-19
are with you.

None of them in the Jungle
are putting him under real pressure.

Conservatives kicked him out
after the next election
he will be gone from real politics

[GoldHeart]

Im sure there is....but I dont know. Im discussing the pack mentality that we are all witnessing on IACGMOOH :hee:

Like i said politics and being thin skinned don't go together, he knew what he was signing up for . And he was overpaid just to enter the jungle.

[AnnieK]

Im sure there is....but I dont know. Im discussing the pack mentality that we are all witnessing on IACGMOOH :hee:

I'm not witnessing it though. I saw people asking questions, I saw him answer them. I saw some people change their mind about him, I saw some who are still dubious. That is pretty normal life. Not everyone has to like you :shrug: That is neither pack mentality or bullying. Had they all ostracized him or shouted him down, I could understand your point. They asked him civil questions, he gave his answers. Some talked behind his back, again nothing new and still not bullying or pack mentality

[GoldHeart]

I'm not witnessing it though. I saw people asking questions, I saw him answer them. I saw some people change their mind about him, I saw some who are still dubious. That is pretty normal life. Not everyone has to like you :shrug: That is neither pack mentality or bullying. Had they all ostracized him or shouted him down, I could understand your point. They asked him civil questions, he gave his answers. Some talked behind his back, again nothing new and still not bullying or pack mentality

Exactly
Anyone would think they all huddled off to a corner and alienated him , and nobody shouted him down or anything.

They spoke & showed their feelings & opinions.

[arista]

Exactly
Anyone would think they all huddled off to a corner and alienated him , and nobody shouted him down or anything.

They spoke & showed their feelings & opinions.


If only it was Live
as they Edit so much.

[GoldHeart]

If only it was Live
as they Edit so much.

Yeah people forget that we're not seeing everything , and off camera what would conversations be like who knows.

[jet]

Im sure there is....but I dont know. Im discussing the pack mentality that we are all witnessing on IACGMOOH :hee:

Indeed.
The pack grilling him and talking behind his back focused on what they perceived as ‘the bad’ and said nothing at all about the ‘good’ he did, which is very unfair.
Did any of them break the pack ranks and say to him that he was in an horrendously difficult position with the lives of millions at stake - no. Did any of them say they would have detested being in his shoes having to deliver unpopular decisions - no. Did any of them ask him how those decisions came about and if he personally agreed with them or not - no. It is not that they were questioning him - it’s the accusatory way they were doing it.
They behaved as if he was solely responsible - him and him alone - which is horrific.
There is to be an Independent enquiry, nobody knows the ins and outs of what went on, but people are heaping blame on him when they currently don’t know the reality of the circumstances during that time.

[Liam-]

If he can’t handle a couple of questions from some people off the telly, he really never should have gotten into politics, the blokes fine, he answered the questions, whether he was truthful is another question altogether, he’s not being bullied, he’s having a laugh and taking his knocks like a grown up, get a grip

[rusticgal]

If he can’t handle a couple of questions from some people off the telly, he really never should have gotten into politics, the blokes fine, he answered the questions, whether he was truthful is another question altogether, he’s not being bullied, he’s having a laugh and taking his knocks like a grown up, get a grip


I think he is handling himself brilliantly...its the attitude of the others I personally don't like and the pack mentality....its really not a good look.

[rusticgal]

Indeed.
The pack grilling him and talking behind his back focused on what they perceived as ‘the bad’ and said nothing at all about the ‘good’ he did, which is very unfair.
Did any of them break the pack ranks and say to him that he was in an horrendously difficult position with the lives of millions at stake - no. Did any of them say they would have detested being in his shoes having to deliver unpopular decisions - no. Did any of them ask him how those decisions came about and if he personally agreed with them or not - no. It is not that they were questioning him - it’s the accusatory way they were doing it.
They behaved as if he was solely responsible - him and him alone - which is horrific.
There is to be an Independent enquiry, nobody knows the ins and outs of what went on, but people are heaping blame on him when they currently don’t know the reality of the circumstances during that time.

Absolutely. :wavey:

[Liam-]

‘Pack mentality’ being a couple of people asking him questions, heaven forbid your sensibilities when he has to answer for his action at the inquiry :joker:

Millions of people want to ask him the questions too, should they not because it might be ‘pack mentality’?

Why are Tories so sensitive over their politicians being asked genuine, common questions? The thing is, he is dealing with it well, in that he’s actually trying to provide answers rather than dodge them, which is a first for him actually

[rusticgal]

Exactly
Anyone would think they all huddled off to a corner and alienated him , and nobody shouted him down or anything.

They spoke & showed their feelings & opinions.


Well anybody watching will know he wasn't huddled off to a corner and alienated....so I dont know who you are speaking on behalf of :smug:
He was only in there 5 mins and Scarlette asked him why he was there...I had not seen her ask that of any other Campmates..:shrug:...and they are not speaking TO him...they are talking DOWN to him and that is a big difference and says a lot about people. Personally I wouldn't let anyone talk to me like that...it was just so patronising.

[arista]

If he can’t handle a couple of questions from some people off the telly, he really never should have gotten into politics, the blokes fine, he answered the questions, whether he was truthful is another question altogether, he’s not being bullied, he’s having a laugh and taking his knocks like a grown up, get a grip


But then he would not get on this show


Slick Liam

[AnnieK]

Indeed.
The pack grilling him and talking behind his back focused on what they perceived as ‘the bad’ and said nothing at all about the ‘good’ he did, which is very unfair.
Did any of them break the pack ranks and say to him that he was in an horrendously difficult position with the lives of millions at stake - no. Did any of them say they would have detested being in his shoes having to deliver unpopular decisions - no. Did any of them ask him how those decisions came about and if he personally agreed with them or not - no. It is not that they were questioning him - it’s the accusatory way they were doing it.
They behaved as if he was solely responsible - him and him alone - which is horrific.
There is to be an Independent enquiry, nobody knows the ins and outs of what went on, but people are heaping blame on him when they currently don’t know the reality of the circumstances during that time.

Again he chose to go in there before the outcome of inquiry. He is the only "face" of the Gov,people will know he is not solely responsible but he's the only one there. He will be well aware of public perception of him, thats what he wants to change. Why would the celebs feel any different from the average Joe. As I said, he has been treated with civility in there and has been able to get a lot of his points accross. The campmates have done him a favour, he will be grilled far more intensley and patronisingly by the inquiry team. Hell, he's been grilled and spoken down to far more in the House before now. Had they not questioned him and ignored the elephant he couldnt just start talking about it by bringing it up they have helped him in his cause, some probably to their detrimemt.

[jet]

Again he chose to go in there before the outcome of inquiry. He is the only "face" of the Gov,people will know he is not solely responsible but he's the only one there. He will be well aware of public perception of him, thats what he wants to change. Why would the celebs feel any different from the average Joe. As I said, he has been treated with civility in there and has been able to get a lot of his points accross. The campmates have done him a favour, he will be grilled far more intensley and patronisingly by the inquiry team. Hell, he's been grilled and spoken down to far more in the House before now. Had they not questioned him and ignored the elephant he couldnt just start talking about it by bringing it up they have helped him in his cause, some probably to their detrimemt.

I have no problem at all with anyone in there asking him questions - I have a problem with only negative, blame - focussed questions being asked. That isn’t natural.
IAC being an entertainment show where the participants obviously want to come across well, it smacks of them hoping to gain favour with the viewing public…and where you saw civility, I saw quite judgemental demands and some snide back stabbing.

[AnnieK]

I have no problem at all with anyone in there asking him questions - I have a problem with only negative, blame - focussed questions being asked. That isn’t natural.
IAC being an entertainment show where the participants obviously want to come across well, it smacks of them hoping to gain favour with the viewing public…and where you saw civility, I saw quite judgemental demands and some snide back stabbing.

I guess its all about perception. I don't see it the way you do, I guess that's life. I don't agree that it was only negative questions. He was asked what was next for him, asked about his book etc. As I said he will asked far tougher questions and in all honesty, if I had met him, I'd be asking similar questions they are....as would everyone I had spoken to. Some have said they wouldn't have been anywhere near polite.

Anyway, I don't think we will agree on this so will bow out. Matt is holding his own and looks like he's having fun, he has managed to get his views across, the others have their own opinions, some have changed their views but others won't and that is life.

[jet]

I guess its all about perception. I don't see it the way you do, I guess that's life. I don't agree that it was only negative questions. He was asked what was next for him, asked about his book etc. As I said he will asked far tougher questions and in all honesty, if I had met him, I'd be asking similar questions they are....as would everyone I had spoken to. Some have said they wouldn't have been anywhere near polite.

Anyway, I don't think we will agree on this so will bow out. Matt is holding his own and looks like he's having fun, he has managed to get his views across, the others have their own opinions, some have changed their views but others won't and that is life.

No prob Annie. Enjoy this evenings show :)

[AnnieK]

No prob Annie. Enjoy this evenings show :)

You too :love:

[arista]

On Now

[arista]

Only One Hour Today


Live at the start

[Crimson Dynamo]

and we are off

[arista]

Good on the Rats


Overnight
looking for any food dropped

[Crimson Dynamo]

no luv the rats have a problem with you

[arista]

no luv the rats have a problem with you


The Food dropped
brings them to the Camp.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Food dropped
brings them to the Camp.

they have to eat unlike the pigs in the camp

[arista]

Good The Trail



If Any Shout out the Answer to them
they Lose a Star

[GoldHeart]

Let's see if they get many questions right.

[arista]

Let's see if they get many questions right.


No help from the Others
they got the answer Wrong

[arista]

Matt got one Wrong


2 Stars Lost

[arista]

Another Loss

[Crimson Dynamo]

braindead him on the left

[arista]

Good On Sue

[arista]

5 stars out of 11


Small Food

[Crimson Dynamo]

poor education is so so ugly

[joeysteele]

Good On Sue

Eh!

She didn't actually know Coronation Street began in 1960.
Yeah she knew it had a 60th anniversary but should have known when it first aired.
She's been in it ages

[Vanessa]

Owen nearly falling on his arse :joker::joker:

[GoldHeart]

Hancock pretending he didn't hear the Question :notimpressed: .

[arista]

Owen nearly falling on his arse :joker::joker:


He is the Fittest in there

[arista]

Tough task for those 3

[arista]

Popcorn Prize

[arista]

Thats sad
wrong answer

[Crimson Dynamo]

He is the Fittest in there

thickest

[GoldHeart]

Sue getting gunged & paint thrown on her , that's a bit of air time for her :shrug: LOL .

[GoldHeart]

Popcorn Prize

I really thought they got the tweet question right,oh well.

[joeysteele]

Owen thinks a Boar looks like a Cow.
Oh dear.

[arista]

thickest


Appears so.



He is a good cook
though

[arista]

Had to be him again
picked by the Public.

[joeysteele]

Had to be him again
picked by the Public.

Hardly worth holding a vote really.

[GoldHeart]

Owen thinks a Boar looks like a Cow.
Oh dear.

:facepalm: he really isn't the sharpest tool in the box is he, he's helping with dinner though.

[GoldHeart]

Had to be him again
picked by the Public.

Utterly boring and a complete joke , why must we keep seeing The Hancock show :bored: . Other campmates should get a chance.

Let's see Scarlett,Charlene or Chris or Jill do a trial.

[Mystic Mock]

He is the Fittest in there

I think a lot of women will agree with you on that.:laugh:

[rusticgal]

:facepalm: he really isn't the sharpest tool in the box is he, he's helping with dinner though.


Charlene let him cook tonight…that was kind of her :hehe:….patronising bint.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-f76c7085-4e66-478a-824a-34261f857187.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-bd9e547b-8ce0-4ead-874b-07ed1bb51c4d.png


He is also on the Right Hand side
of the Express

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3875a13d-7520-4f0d-9648-e26ae27ced7f.jpeg

[GoldHeart]

He even dominates the silly rag headlines .

[rusticgal]

He even dominates the silly rag headlines .


Everyone’s talking about him one way or another…

[Vanessa]

More trials, more airtime. It's a win win for me :hee:

[Zizu]

Apologies if this has already been discussed in here … I’ve only just seen it

::::
Breaking News

Olivia says a routine blood test, which all the jungle campmates undergo randomly throughout the show, suddenly and inexplicably disclosed she was dangerously anaemic.


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[arista]

Olivia Attwood talks to the Daily Mail

['I was so scared... what WAS wrong with me?
' I'm A Celeb star Olivia Attwood reveals her
terror at being rushed to A&E when blood tests
showed she was dangerously anaemic – and her
anguish as producers kicked her out of the jungle]


[Finally able to use her phone,
she called her fiancé, Bradley Dack,
a midfielder for Blackburn Rovers
and her parents.
But she took the decision to delete her social media apps
in an attempt to not upset herself further.

She admitted: 'When I first got my phone
back I saw clips of me on the show that
showed my little happy face.
It made me feel really sad – I didn't want to see them.
I didn't want to see my entrance interview,
it was a reminder of how exciting everything
was just before it was taken away.'

Olivia was made aware, however,
of how the I'm A Celeb audience was speculating about
her exit, much of which, she says, felt misogynistic.
'I mean, I saw on Twitter that I was pregnant.
I'm not,' she says.
'There is an underlying misogynistic feel to the rhetoric.
They're saying, 'I bet she fainted'
or 'I bet she was scared of sleeping outside'
or that 'she didn't fancy it because it was raining'.]



So she can talk to Newspapers
but not on TV?
Something stinks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11421037/Im-Celebrity-Olivia-Attwood-rushed-E-tests-showed-dangerously-anaemic.html


[From Google:

Is being anemic serious?

Severe iron deficiency anaemia may increase
your risk of developing complications that
affect the heart or lungs, such as an abnormally
fast heartbeat (tachycardia) or heart failure,
where your heart is unable to
pump enough blood around
your body at the right pressure.]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/12/21/64480765-11421037-image-a-12_1668286803113.jpg

Just go Live on TV
give us the truth.

[bots]

you can't be anaemic and be subjected to the poor diet that the celebs get in the jungle. It's pretty obvious

[Gusto Brunt]

I'm not watching the show but I've just seen a clip of DJ Chris Moyles on Yahoo video, in the jungle.

Wow, he looks about 70.

No offence, but how he is only 48????

[arista]

1591409171848916992

[Cherie]

Sue needs to do a trial, she moaned about the food, and then said we need 11 stars...knowing full well she wouldnt be the one required to bring them back

[Nicky91]

Sue needs to do a trial, she moaned about the food, and then said we need 11 stars...knowing full well she wouldnt be the one required to bring them back

Sue can't do trials as she's so old :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Apologies if this has already been discussed in here … I’ve only just seen it

::::
Breaking News

Olivia says a routine blood test, which all the jungle campmates undergo randomly throughout the show, suddenly and inexplicably disclosed she was dangerously anaemic.


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There's literally been about 3 rumours now .
1 Pregnancy
2. COVID
3. Anaemic
:notimpressed:

[GoldHeart]

Sue needs to do a trial, she moaned about the food, and then said we need 11 stars...knowing full well she wouldnt be the one required to bring them back

Getting gunged & painted splattered ,was the most she did . I don't think we're going to see her do a trial,If the public keep voting Hancock.

IAC should change the format ,once people do trials they should be exempt. Mike is doing nothing !!!.... he's just sat half asleep :rolleyes: .

[Beastie]

Want to see Moyles do a bushtucker trial.

[GoldHeart]

Want to see Moyles do a bushtucker trial.

He won't get a chance ,seen as Hancock keeps getting voted :sleep: .

[joeysteele]

Getting gunged & painted splattered ,was the most she did . I don't think we're going to see her do a trial,If the public keep voting Hancock.

IAC should change the format ,once people do trials they should be exempt. Mike is doing nothing !!!.... he's just sat half asleep :rolleyes: .

I agree with that as to maybe once they've done 2 trials they are exempt from one after them.

As for Sue, I agree with Cherie.
She should do a trial as they all should.
All she's really doing is sitting talking.
Not much else.

Maybe there should be some trials set aside to have only those who haven't done any to have to do them.
With no public vote.

Sadly I know Cons and other Party supporters who are voting they say to force Hancock to do the trials.
I thought I'd like Mike but sadly I'm not impressed with him either.

We aren't seeing how they cope in trials though so it's hard to form much of a view on the others as campmates.

As for Boy George he often seems to have a smug look on his face.
He's being lapped up in there as to his stories.
I can't stand him myself but there it is.

[GoldHeart]

I agree with that as to maybe once they've done 2 trials they are exempt from one after them.

As for Sue, I agree with Cherie.
She should do a trial as they all should.
All she's really doing is sitting talking.
Not much else.

Maybe there should be some trials set aside to have only those who haven't done any to have to do them.
With no public vote.

Sadly I know Cons and other Party supporters who are voting they say to force Hancock to do the trials.
I thought I'd like Mike but sadly I'm not impressed with him either.

We aren't seeing how they cope in trials though so it's hard to form much of a view on the others as campmates.

As for Boy George he often seems to have a smug look on his face.
He's being lapped up in there as to his stories.
I can't stand him myself but there it is.

When this series started this year i almost didn't watch and i actually missed the launch , it's the same garbage every year. There's always a really annoying or in Hancock's case a controversial weasel who becomes the serial trialist . People might think it's funny seeing him do trial after trial ... but whoever it is whether i like the person or not ..it's boring and frustrating seeing the same person dominate the show. It's the Hancock show :notimpressed: utterly pointless.

As for BG , my goodness how much air time did he get last night!! .. ridiculous from his cringy chanting with Sean to the other campmates as you say lapping up his 'stories' . I don't know how he lifts his head off his pillow it must be that big. Self obsessed pig :bored: , and clearly producers fav.

I'm as yet to see why Mike is so popular with the bookies , it seems the only time we see other campmates is when they react to Hancock doing a trial or when they do the answering question Kiosk Kev mini trial thing.

I want to see Scarlet ,Sue , Charlene , Jill , Mike and Chris do a trial . I wish from the beginning they could volunteer the people who haven't done a trial yet ... i always prefer when it gets to that stage as the public vote gets on my nerves as it's never fair .

And it looks like we're going to have another 'camp leader' thing , bet you anything it will be Hancock voted for that aswell :bored: .

[rusticgal]

Sue needs to do a trial, she moaned about the food, and then said we need 11 stars...knowing full well she wouldnt be the one required to bring them back


Sue and Charlene need to do a trial...I have never seen Campmates so insensitive to those doing the Trial.

[rusticgal]

I'm not watching the show but I've just seen a clip of DJ Chris Moyles on Yahoo video, in the jungle.

Wow, he looks about 70.

No offence, but how he is only 48????


Is he only 48 :hehe:....he does look so much older. I always think people look older when they lose weight at that sort of age.

[rusticgal]

I agree with that as to maybe once they've done 2 trials they are exempt from one after them.

As for Sue, I agree with Cherie.
She should do a trial as they all should.
All she's really doing is sitting talking.
Not much else.

Maybe there should be some trials set aside to have only those who haven't done any to have to do them.
With no public vote.

Sadly I know Cons and other Party supporters who are voting they say to force Hancock to do the trials.
I thought I'd like Mike but sadly I'm not impressed with him either.

We aren't seeing how they cope in trials though so it's hard to form much of a view on the others as campmates.

As for Boy George he often seems to have a smug look on his face.
He's being lapped up in there as to his stories.
I can't stand him myself but there it is.

If I'm honest I am struggling to like any of them in there...I like Matt,Seann and I quite like Baba and Jill....

[Zizu]

Current betting odds

6/5 Jill Scott
4/1 Mike Tindall
13/2 Owen Warner
11/1 Matt Hancock
16/1 Babatunde Aleshe
16/1 Chris Moyles
28/1 Boy George
28/1 Seann Walsh
33/1 Sue Cleaver
66/1 Scarlette Douglas
100/1 Charlene White


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[arista]

Current betting odds

6/5 Jill Scott
4/1 Mike Tindall
13/2 Owen Warner
11/1 Matt Hancock
16/1 Babatunde Aleshe
16/1 Chris Moyles
28/1 Boy George
28/1 Seann Walsh
33/1 Sue Cleaver
66/1 Scarlette Douglas
100/1 Charlene White




It will be great
if White is Evicted first

[GoldHeart]

Current betting odds

6/5 Jill Scott
4/1 Mike Tindall
13/2 Owen Warner
11/1 Matt Hancock
16/1 Babatunde Aleshe
16/1 Chris Moyles
28/1 Boy George
28/1 Seann Walsh
33/1 Sue Cleaver
66/1 Scarlette Douglas
100/1 Charlene White


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Why is Mike so popular when we hardly see him :conf: . Hancock is getting to the final 5 :bored:. shock .

I knew Charlene would be the least popular and will be the first one out . Would be good if she got a trial , but it's the Hancock show.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/13/08/64491703-11422407-image-m-4_1668328039338.jpg

Yes Sue
well done

[joeysteele]

If I'm honest I am struggling to like any of them in there...I like Matt,Seann and I quite like Baba and Jill....

Me too, I don't really care for this set of people in there this series at all.

If I was pushed to say who I'd want to win it would be Jill.

[Vanessa]

Matt odds are better than I thought. He probably won't win, but he's a great campmate.

[rusticgal]

Why is Mike so popular when we hardly see him :conf: . Hancock is getting to the final 5 :bored:. shock .

I knew Charlene would be the least popular and will be the first one out . Would be good if she got a trial , but it's the Hancock show.


Maybe if she wasn't so patronising and controlling...she would be more popular.
Apart from rapping...Mike has done little else. Taking it all a bit too seriously imo...

[rusticgal]

Another thing I noticed last night was Charlene fawning all over George and admitted how she adored the man...then went on to say she has read his Autobiography....perhaps he didnt include the bit where he held someone against their will and sexually assaulted them :shrug:....otherwise she might not be a fan :smug:

[GoldHeart]

Me too, I don't really care for this set of people in there this series at all.

If I was pushed to say who I'd want to win it would be Jill.

Some of them are ok , but they need more air time and to do trials .

[Pro Sniper]

Just caught up with the weekend nonsense to find that nothing much has changed. Scott and Warner are STILL stupidly waking up in the luxury of beds - dreaming about the added xtra of stuffing their entitled faces on top of them. And George is still pretending to chant spiritual shiit.. in splendid isolation.

When Cleaver informed the camp she'd lost her towel, "Mighty Mike" is so DESPERATE to be loved I was anticipating the very real possibility of seeing him rush to the BT to ask for the tools needed to knit her a new one. As it turned out, George was behind its "disappearance". Who knew that a man who derives pleasure from tying people up and thrashing them with chains and dildos could be considerate enough to kindly look after the belongings of others? The marvellous G-R-O-W-T-H that lies within every being remains astonishing.

Warner was unsurprisingly gutted he was KO'd from latest trial. Remember DESPERATE Dan Miller? The exact same thing with that fool, seen chomping at the bit on every single ep as he looked to gain every possible piece of camera attention.

The trial turned out to be another FARCE..mainly due to George being given easy foods to eat. Take that first dish he was served with, it was clearly just some heinz beans with some gooey sauce covering them. His 2nd was a chocolate milkshake. His 3rd was a juicy pear. His 4th was chopped beef. His 5th was tofu covered in a little pasta sauce. And his 6th was a bowl of thick blackberry jam.

Another day, another pretend "dream" about food from Warner. The fast-food "treat" mustn't be far away. He was given his DESPERATE wish of getting the trial.. and he FLOPPPED like the fool he is. Cock stank the place out as well. Laurel&Hardy would've proved a better pairing.

George is now "teaching" his spiritual bull to Walsh. Just before we see him again indulge in the thing he loves most>>> talking about HIMself.

Normally the DD challenges are a 2-person thing..but to keep the Scott momentum going they gladly made it a 3-wheeler. And because of such DESPERATION, I've never been happier to see the treat being dumped. Kev looked as smug and as satisfied as me as Moyles was left absolutely FUMING..
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Douglas is teaching cock the "willy bounce" - something I'd never heard of. All I can say is it was a great disappointment to see it look so very different to how I imagined it..

[Zizu]

Another thing I noticed last night was Charlene fawning all over George and admitted how she adored the man...then went on to say she has read his Autobiography....perhaps he didnt include the bit where he held someone against their will and sexually assaulted them :shrug:....otherwise she might not be a fan :smug:


Someone must know if he mentioned handcuffing the guy to a radiator ..


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[Vanessa]

For me Matt is making this series worth watching. I look forward to seeing his trials everyday :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

For me Matt is making this series worth watching. I look forward to seeing his trials everyday :laugh:

Don't you want to see other campmates get a chance ?.

[Vanessa]

Don't you want to see other campmates get a chance ?.

Yes, that would be nice. But it won't happen any time soon.

[GoldHeart]

I don't think it's fair ,IAC need to change the format ...and stop Hancock doing trials now.

[Cherie]

Another thing I noticed last night was Charlene fawning all over George and admitted how she adored the man...then went on to say she has read his Autobiography....perhaps he didnt include the bit where he held someone against their will and sexually assaulted them :shrug:....otherwise she might not be a fan :smug:

I found that incredible, she is a journalist she must know what he was charged with...

[arista]

Tonight 9PM - 9:15PM

[jet]

I found that incredible, she is a journalist she must know what he was charged with...

Absolutely. Yet she isn't demanding answers from him like she did with Matt....can't stand the woman, I hope she is first out.

[GoldHeart]

I found that incredible, she is a journalist she must know what he was charged with...

You could say that about all the campmates who were fawning, or what about Ant & Dec bursting out 'karma chameleon ' every 2 seconds ,full with harmonic cringey much ?! .

[jet]

Mike Tindall looks very disappointed every time he is passed over for a trial. When he signed up for the show he probably envisaged himself flying through trials with flying colours and being admired for his bravery and manliness. Which is fair enough I suppose. He must be chomping at the bit to do a trial because he isn’t getting any airtime and is coming across as quite boring.

[rusticgal]

I found that incredible, she is a journalist she must know what he was charged with...


Of course she does…but she probably sees him as a favourite and therefore she won’t challenge him…but she knows that giving Matt a hard time may win her favour with the Public.
Hope she’s out first…but I doubt it with the Loose women following.