Southport: 17year old Arrested Terrorist with Knife Killed 3 Children, Wounded many

[Alf]

I only asked Sheriff a question.

Just look at the nastiness of Sheriffs reply to me?

[thesheriff443]

Sheriff does care, because Sheriff good.

Everyone else don't care, because they bad.

The truth is you don’t care your only interested in trump America and things you can get your head around

[Cherie]

…the Portuguese government were the ones to release Alice’s name first so I assume the other two names will be known quite soon, also…

THE three girls who were killed in a stabbing in Southport have been named.

Merseyside Police confirmed the names of the three girls who were tragically killed as six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe, and nine-year-old Alice Dasilva Aguiar.

Their families, who are being supported by specialist officers, have issued photographs and have asked that their privacy is respected at this time.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/pictures-and-names-released-of-three-girls-killed-in-southport-stabbing/ar-BB1qTv84?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[AnnieK]

They have named the three girls now:

https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/three-girls-tragically-killed-in-southport-named/

[Ammi]

Merseyside Police can confirm the names of the three girls who were tragically killed in Southport on Monday (29 July).

They are Bebe King, six; Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven; and Alice Dasilva Aguiar, nine.

Their families, who are being supported by specialist officers, have issued photographs and have asked that their privacy is respected at this time.

Bebe King’s family have shared the following tribute: "No words can describe the devastation that has hit our family as try to deal with the loss of our little girl Bebe."

The family of Alice Dasilva Aguiar paid this tribute: "Keep smiling and dancing like you love to do our Princess, like we said before to you, you're always our princess and no one would change that. Love from Your Hero Daddy and Mummy."


https://www.merseyside.police.uk/contentassets/96f017640579479bbb30e0566057ecc1/alice-bebe-and-elsie.jpg

[Alf]

The truth is you don’t care your only interested in trump America and things you can get your head aroundI only asked you a question. Where is all this abuse coming from?

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Ammi]

…6 yr old Bebe King…

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/15/87945801-13688687-image-a-1_1722349439099.jpg

[arista]

PM Starmer
now visiting Southport

[thesheriff443]

I only asked you a question. Where is all this abuse coming from?

It’s coming from you not caring about those killed and their families the only thing you want to know is the killers name and back you can do your usual

[Crimson Dynamo]

PM Starmer
now visiting Southport

people shouted at him and he left swiftly

[Ammi]

…7yr old Elsie Dot Stancombe…

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/15/87945795-13688687-image-a-3_1722349559221.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

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be interesting to see if this happens in this case??

[arista]

…6 yr old Bebe King…

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/15/87945801-13688687-image-a-1_1722349439099.jpg



Yes,
they all had so much to live for.


One Evil 17-year-old
knew because of the Heat
he could enter a door

Not locked to let air in.

[Alf]

Exactly. The only thing that the majority of people are in disgust with right now is that our children are being stabbed to death and the others traumatised.

That's where our anger is from. It's nothing to do with race of people.

It's actually the people facilitating this illegality where the most anger is pointed to. But that point just doesn't seem to be coming across. They're too busy on their high horse calling everyone a racist.I think my post yesterday begs to differ with your opinions on me Sheriff.

[Ammi]

Yes,
they all had so much to live for.


One Evil 17-year-old
knew because of the Heat
he could enter a door

Not locked to let air in.

…School Holiday events such as this one, generally don’t have secured premises in the same way as schools do…I think following this, that will change in the future…it most definitely needs to…

[Ammi]

Quick-thinking teacher locked kids in toilet as knifeman attacked Taylor Swift dance class…

One of the teachers leading a Taylor Swift dance class targeted by a knifeman who killed three young girls in a stabbing rampage kept other children there safe by locking them in a toilet, it's been revealed. It came as police sadly confirmed a nine year-old girl died in hospital in the early hours of Tuesday.

Two other girls, aged six and seven, died from their injuries on Monday, with police confirming eight other children also suffered stab wounds during the attack. Five are said to be in critical condition.

Two other adults are also said to be fighting for their lives after the horror attack in Southport. One is believed to be Leanne Lucas, 36. Her co-teacher, Heidi Barlow, is thought to have received minor injuries. Ms Barlow is said to have successfully protected children attending the dance, yoga and games class by locking them in a toilet when the attack took place.

One resident of Hart Street said the two women had tried desperately to save the children. They told The Sun: "She was in the toilet, shut the door and locked it with one of the kids. The other got some kids to the fire exit." A source at the scene told the Mirror Ms Barlow was the one who hid the children in the toilet.

Together, the women are believed to have saved 16 people aged between six and 11. The resident added that, following the lead of two teachers, others later joined and tried to help get the children - around 25 of whom are thought to have attended the class - to safety.

They added: "I heard some lads from the builders yard and a window cleaner came out and tried to help. They heard shouting, 'get the kids, get the kids'.

"I don't know if they’ve tackled him. I heard someone sat on him. A friend of mine, his two little daughters have been stabbed. Little girls were getting worked on in gardens and mums were crying their eyes out."

Tributes to the women have since been posted on social media, with one person on Facebook claiming to have trained with Ms Lucas saying she was a "beautiful young creative girl".

The tribute read: "I’m absolutely devastated. Please please pray for Leanne. Leanne came on my training course in December. A beautiful young creative girl who was so passionate about helping children. I just can’t believe it. Please pray."

….full article…
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/quick-thing-teacher-locked-kids-132017154.html

[Vanessa]

…School Holiday events such as this one, generally don’t have secured premises in the same way as schools do…I think following this, that will change in the future…it most definitely needs to…
Schools and premises like these will all need security. The only way to protect the children.

[arista]

[Quick-thinking teacher locked kids
in toilet as knifeman attacked
Taylor Swift dance class]

Yes Great Move

[Parmy]

what a beautiful young lady, her parents have made a lovely tribute to their Princess, no words really

I think its quite fitting that we dont know his name, only their names need to be remembered

And taylor swifts obviously.. much more important than finding out a murdering scumbags name.

[arista]

…School Holiday events such as this one, generally don’t have secured premises in the same way as schools do…I think following this, that will change in the future…it most definitely needs to…


Yes in the Future doors will be locked

[Vanessa]

Yes in the Future doors will be locked

That may not be enough. They'll need security?

[arista]

That may not be enough. They'll need security?

That costs too much.

[Cherie]

The door was open due to the heat, so he just walked in, maybe they were not his target and it was just an opportunity for him

[Parmy]

The door was open due to the heat, so he just walked in, maybe they were not his target and it was just an opportunity for him

Be interesting to see the taxi booking to and from record.

[bots]

He refused to pay for the taxi apparently

[Parmy]

Anyone know who his solicitors are going to be?

[bots]

There will always be someone wanting a high profile case

[Cherie]

Merseyside Police have issued a warning after an “incorrect” name for the alleged Southport attacker was widely circulated online.

Inaccurate posts by social media sleuths about the identity of the perpetrator have received millions of views and engagements.

A 17-year-old boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, remains in custody accused of murder and attempted murder following the incident.

Sunder Katwala, director of the thinktank British Future, said a fake news channel seemed to have invented a fake name and run a false story.

Some of those “sharing that false information” include actor Laurence Fox and former kickboxer Andrew Tate, Mr Katwala said, posting on X.

Mr Katwala said the “pace” with which misinformation was spreading after the incident “presents important challenges to social media platforms and ultimately for policymakers as regulators and lawmakers if platforms cannot respond.”

[Parmy]

The exact reason why he should be named.

[Vanessa]

The exact reason why he should be named.

Exactly. The person named is not the one who did it and could be in danger.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Merseyside Police have issued a warning after an “incorrect” name for the alleged Southport attacker was widely circulated online.

Inaccurate posts by social media sleuths about the identity of the perpetrator have received millions of views and engagements.

A 17-year-old boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, remains in custody accused of murder and attempted murder following the incident.

Sunder Katwala, director of the thinktank British Future, said a fake news channel seemed to have invented a fake name and run a false story.

Some of those “sharing that false information” include actor Laurence Fox and former kickboxer Andrew Tate, Mr Katwala said, posting on X.

Mr Katwala said the “pace” with which misinformation was spreading after the incident “presents important challenges to social media platforms and ultimately for policymakers as regulators and lawmakers if platforms cannot respond.”

Two 16 year olds were named in the murder of Brianna Ghey just last year

[bots]

Two 16 year olds were named in the murder of Brianna Ghey just last year

after they were found guilty and the case was over

[Zizu]

Be interesting to see the taxi booking to and from record.


Exactly


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[Cherie]

Two 16 year olds were named in the murder of Brianna Ghey just last year

They were named after the court case though? they were referred to as Girl X and Boy Y during the trial as I recall, and it was only after the verdict that the judge ruled their names could be put in the public domain

see

Two teenagers blaming each other for the “frenzied” murder of Brianna Ghey in a Warrington park were “in it together”, jurors have been told before starting their deliberations.

The 16-year-old was stabbed 28 times in her head, neck, chest and back in Linear Park, Culcheth, a village near Warrington, Cheshire, on the afternoon of 11 February this year.

Two teenagers, identified only as girl X and boy Y, have been on trial for her murder for over three weeks and each blames the other for the murder.

A jury at Manchester crown court was warned on Tuesday not to be tempted to “try to find an explanation” for the killing.

In her closing speech, the prosecuting KC Deanna Heer told jurors: “You may find it hard to fathom how two children could behave the way they did. The temptation might be to try and find an explanation for what they did and why. They are only children after all.
“But in a criminal case the prosecution doesn’t have to prove why a crime is committed, only that it has been. In murder cases in particular we sometimes never know why a crime is committed … Don’t be tempted to try and work out what they would do what they did.”

She told the jury they do not have to decide who actually stabbed Brianna in order to find both children guilty of murder.


Heer said they “may well conclude” that the boy inflicted at least some of the stab wounds using a hunting knife he bought for £13.50 on a skiing holiday six weeks before the killing. Brianna’s blood was found on his coat and shoes, as well as on the knife, the court has heard.

Meanwhile, Girl X’s barrister, Richard Pratt KC told the jury: “There’s not even so much as a microscopically observable droplet of blood on Girl X’s jacket or her shoes. There’s not a cell of Girl X’s DNA on anything incriminating in this case.”

But Heer reminded the jury that a forensic scientist, Jane Roughley, had told the court it was “entirely possible that Girl X had stabbed Brianna at least once, either before her blood started to flow or after it had started to flow.”

The prosecutor also suggested that Girl X may have used Y as her “hitman”, reminding them that she had once referred to her co-accused as a Tesco John Wick, a budget version of the assassin played by Keanu Reeves in the Hollywood film franchise. “You may think that’s why she referred to Y in that way, because he was her hitman,” Heer said.

Heer told the jury that the teenagers were the only suspects, adding: “The evidence suggests that they both participated in Brianna’s murder in the following ways: firstly, they both encouraged the other to kill Brianna. Secondly they both contributed to a plan to kill Brianna. Thirdly, they both played a part in carrying out the plan. And fourthly, after they had killed her they both took steps to conceal and cover up their guilt.”

She added: “The evidence suggests from first to last these two defendants were in it together.”

The trial continues.

[Zizu]

Anyone know who his solicitors are going to be?


That bloke from the airport


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[Ammi]

after they were found guilty and the case was over

…and that might be the way with this also, but we won’t know until after the sentencing if the judge appeals for him to be named…doesn’t it have to be decided by another court…?…

[Crimson Dynamo]

That bloke from the airport


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I note he is now available...

[Crimson Dynamo]

They were named after the court case though? .

ah yes you are correct

As i understand it the name could be published by a website/news source outside the UK?

[bots]

…and that might be the way with this also, but we won’t know until after the sentencing if the judge appeals for him to be named…doesn’t it have to be decided by another court…?…

No, i think it is simply up to the judge appointed to the case. If he decides it's in the public interest for people to know who he is then, that's it, otherwise it remains withheld. I think there will be immense pressure to name him, however, the judge will be concerned that the guy gets a proper trial that can't be appealed in the future

[Cherie]

ah yes you are correct

As i understand it the name could be published by a website/news source outside the UK?

I really dont know what the law is or if it can prejudice a case ...

[bots]

ah yes you are correct

As i understand it the name could be published by a website/news source outside the UK?

yes, the legal system can't cope if the persons name is in the public domain. Also, mp's can name the person at any time in the HoC

[Ammi]

No, i think it is simply up to the judge appointed to the case. If he decides it's in the public interest for people to know who he is then, that's it, otherwise it remains withheld. I think there will be immense pressure to name him, however, the judge will be concerned that the guy gets a proper trial that can't be appealed in the future

…(…if I recall…)…I’m not sure if it was Brianna’s killers or another case but the name wasn’t revealed for public interest …it was because with the nature of social media and those with knowledge of cases posting on social media etc…?…the judge felt that it had become an inevitable thing and pointless to try to uphold…

[Ammi]

…for information…

Anonymity for youths in law

In terms of criminal law, when youths appear in court, they are often granted anonymity in a range of settings to protect them.

There is an automatic ban on the identification of children in youth court proceedings, and if a youth appears in the crown court - as they would for a case like this - the judge can impose reporting restrictions ensuring their anonymity under Section 45 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999.

But while the suspect in the Southport stabbing will most likely be granted anonymity if he is charged and then tried in Crown Court, he could - legally - be named at this point, says journalist and media law expert David Banks.

This is because Section 44 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 - which gives anonymity from the moment a criminal investigation begins - hasn't yet been activated, says Banks, creating a "loophole" that could be used, but often isn't.

"Successive governments haven't activated Section 44, which would make everything a whole lot simpler. Then you would never have any question over this issue."

Equally, if the boy turns 18, he will not automatically be entitled to anonymity - so could well be named - especially if his 18th birthday is imminent and happens before a case comes to court, should he be charged, said Banks.


Another reason to not name a 17-year-old suspect is the IPSO Editors' Code of Practice, which says: "Editors should avoid naming children who are arrested, unless their identity is already in the public domain."

It adds: "Sometimes, there are exceptions to clauses of the Code, if a journalist is able to show that there is a public interest. If a journalist wants to use a public interest exception and the issue is about a child, they must show an even greater public interest than for an adult."

Banks added: "There's been this loophole in terms of the law. However, the editor's code of practice says that even where you legally can, you shouldn't name a youth involved in criminal proceedings."

But he said there have been situations in the past, such as the murder of Leeds teacher Ann Maguire in 2014 at the hands of 15-year-old Will Cornick, where youths have been named, because there was believed to be an "overwhelming public interest" in identifying them.

"Very often this gets questioned in extraordinary and horrific events," he said. "Someone, an editor, might think this is such an horrific event that it is in the public interest to identify whoever it is. That's what they would argue if a complaint was made to IPSO - whether IPSO would agree would be another matter."

…full article…

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/southport-stabbing-suspect-name-151023900.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Merseyside Police have now deleted their pride post after Turning Point UK pointed out
that they should be spending less time virtue signalling and more time policing.

Britain needs police not cult flag wavers. :rolleyes:

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[Ammi]

…I do recall Ann Maguire being killed by Will Cornick…but I’m not sure if the public knew who he was before the trial and conviction…Im not sure if that’s what the article is inferring because it was deemed to be of ‘public interest’….

[Parmy]

Well if this isnt in the public interest to name the killer then I dont think there will ever be one that is!

He can be named when hes 18, right?

[bots]

For all we know, he could be 18 next week

[Ammi]

…this reads to me that there is a ‘loophole’ …a minor can’t be named during a trial but can be named before the trial begins…?…


‘On his arrest, Cornick was detained at Wetherby Young Offenders Institution near Leeds, but due to concerns for his safety he was transferred to HM Prison Hindley near Wigan.[14]

Due to an anomaly in British law, although it was illegal to name or identify Cornick during his trial due to him being a minor, it was legal to name him before the trial began. The tabloid newspaper The Sun named him the day following the murder.’

[bots]

When does the guy appear in court, i bet it's today

[bots]

Starmer was in Southport today and someone shouted "How many more people will die on our streets, prime minister? How many more children?" .... the honeymoon is over

[Cherie]

Starmer was in Southport today and someone shouted "How many more people will die on our streets, prime minister? How many more children?" .... the honeymoon is over

The honeymoon ended yesterday when they went for the easy target to claw back some of the black hole they 'didn't know existed' though it was in the public domain for months, there is only so much its the last governments fault the public will accept

[arista]

£183,488 has been collected

Charity to help with funerals

BBC news

[Crimson Dynamo]

Here is Yvette Cooper efefctively blaming knife crime and not the person who did this mass murder and why they did it (and she knows at this point)

interview on ITV is here: https://x.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1818236486883373458


oh and here she is before.......:skull:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTuzH5gXIAAzjkt?format=jpg&name=small

chilling

[Parmy]

Starmer was in Southport today and someone shouted "How many more people will die on our streets, prime minister? How many more children?" .... the honeymoon is over

I bet he scurried off sharpish, rather than face the public

[Zizu]

I bet he scurried off sharpish, rather than face the public


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[Parmy]

https://youtu.be/qIXOqpBxhN0?si=kfJvh89mLuYkwM8S

[Ray.]

I bet that's the last time he'll ever darken their door

[Parmy]

One of todays heroes..


http://youtube.com/post/Ugkxe1jTMY0_Rq9mbKzM4dES_NwCrrnC_vpJ?si=iwPbyarRfJ pBypdd

[Zizu]

One of todays heroes..


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Was he injured?


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[Parmy]

Was he injured?


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No, sky news interviewed him, hes going to be haunted by his own thoughts for percieving he didn't do enough for angling time I think after watching it.

[Alf]

Live from Southport


FHzcX4CIZN0

[Alf]

Not sure if Leeds or Southport.

Video says Southport but some are saying it's Leeds

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not sure if Leeds or Southport.

Video says Southport but some are saying it's Leeds

its SOuthport

[arista]

In Southport


Police Vehicle has been set on Fire

[Alf]

its SOuthportHe's stopped his stream. What a minge.

[Vanessa]

Someone has been arrested during the vigil. They had a knife and attacked a police officer. It's not over

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sadly if you gaslight the masses pretending to deal with an invasion of illegal migrants like the pathetic conservatives have done and labour will continue to do..

you reap what you sow

[Glenn.]

Merseyside Police have now deleted their pride post after Turning Point UK pointed out
that they should be spending less time virtue signalling and more time policing.

Britain needs police not cult flag wavers. :rolleyes:

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Imagine using this thread to peddle your ignorance

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imagine using this thread to peddle your ignorance

i see you have no problem....

[Glenn.]

i see you have no problem....

Whereas you clearly do. Disgusting

[Crimson Dynamo]

New name now circulating on X tonight

Could be a better bet

Not the most Welsh sounding if im honest..

[Ammi]

Police constable says violent scenes are ‘sickening'

Assistant Chief Constable Alex Goss said: “It is sickening to see this happening within a community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three young lives.

“In the last 24 hours, we have seen overwhelming support and sympathy from the community and wider Merseyside communities for the families who are currently trying to deal with their loss and care for victims injured during the major incident.

“Yesterday, our officers and other members of the emergency services were faced with one of the most difficult situations they will ever face. Tonight, they find themselves being attacked as they endeavor to prevent disorder.

“The actions in Southport tonight will involve many people who do not live in the Merseyside area or care about the people of Merseyside.

“There has been much speculation and hypothesis around the status of a 17-year-old male who is currently in police custody and some individuals are using this to bring violence and disorder to our streets.

“We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.

“Our officers should not have to face this, but we will be there tonight to ensure the safety of the local community who have suffered enough, and will arrest those involved in criminal behavior.”

[Vanessa]

New name now circulating on X tonight

Could be a better bet

Not the most Welsh sounding if im honest..
Apparently his father is well connected and the family is being protected.
From the look of it he's also bad news.

[Glenn.]

Police constable says violent scenes are ‘sickening'

Assistant Chief Constable Alex Goss said: “It is sickening to see this happening within a community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three young lives.

“In the last 24 hours, we have seen overwhelming support and sympathy from the community and wider Merseyside communities for the families who are currently trying to deal with their loss and care for victims injured during the major incident.

“Yesterday, our officers and other members of the emergency services were faced with one of the most difficult situations they will ever face. Tonight, they find themselves being attacked as they endeavor to prevent disorder.

“The actions in Southport tonight will involve many people who do not live in the Merseyside area or care about the people of Merseyside.

“There has been much speculation and hypothesis around the status of a 17-year-old male who is currently in police custody and some individuals are using this to bring violence and disorder to our streets.

“We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.

“Our officers should not have to face this, but we will be there tonight to ensure the safety of the local community who have suffered enough, and will arrest those involved in criminal behavior.”



And we get responses like this…

New name now circulating on X tonight

Could be a better bet

Not the most Welsh sounding if im honest..

[Zizu]

Police constable says violent scenes are ‘sickening'

Assistant Chief Constable Alex Goss said: “It is sickening to see this happening within a community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three young lives.

“In the last 24 hours, we have seen overwhelming support and sympathy from the community and wider Merseyside communities for the families who are currently trying to deal with their loss and care for victims injured during the major incident.

“Yesterday, our officers and other members of the emergency services were faced with one of the most difficult situations they will ever face. Tonight, they find themselves being attacked as they endeavor to prevent disorder.

“The actions in Southport tonight will involve many people who do not live in the Merseyside area or care about the people of Merseyside.

“There has been much speculation and hypothesis around the status of a 17-year-old male who is currently in police custody and some individuals are using this to bring violence and disorder to our streets.

“We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.

“Our officers should not have to face this, but we will be there tonight to ensure the safety of the local community who have suffered enough, and will arrest those involved in criminal behavior.”


I have said more than once that we are a powder keg waiting to be ignited !!

It maybe something innocuous or even misleading information that triggers protests, riots or …. worse


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[Alf]

Police constable says violent scenes are ‘sickening'

Assistant Chief Constable Alex Goss said: “It is sickening to see this happening within a community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three young lives.

“In the last 24 hours, we have seen overwhelming support and sympathy from the community and wider Merseyside communities for the families who are currently trying to deal with their loss and care for victims injured during the major incident.

“Yesterday, our officers and other members of the emergency services were faced with one of the most difficult situations they will ever face. Tonight, they find themselves being attacked as they endeavor to prevent disorder.

“The actions in Southport tonight will involve many people who do not live in the Merseyside area or care about the people of Merseyside.

“There has been much speculation and hypothesis around the status of a 17-year-old male who is currently in police custody and some individuals are using this to bring violence and disorder to our streets.

“We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.

“Our officers should not have to face this, but we will be there tonight to ensure the safety of the local community who have suffered enough, and will arrest those involved in criminal behavior.”If they didn't care about the people then why are they there protesting now instead of the last 10,000+ days when no horrific killing took place?

They are obviously there because they do care what happened to those children. It was obviously that fatal incident that brought them out.

Saying that they don't care is a disgusting statement, whoever made it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police constable says violent scenes are ‘sickening'

Assistant Chief Constable Alex Goss said: “It is sickening to see this happening within a community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three young lives.

“In the last 24 hours, we have seen overwhelming support and sympathy from the community and wider Merseyside communities for the families who are currently trying to deal with their loss and care for victims injured during the major incident.

“Yesterday, our officers and other members of the emergency services were faced with one of the most difficult situations they will ever face. Tonight, they find themselves being attacked as they endeavor to prevent disorder.

“The actions in Southport tonight will involve many people who do not live in the Merseyside area or care about the people of Merseyside.

“There has been much speculation and hypothesis around the status of a 17-year-old male who is currently in police custody and some individuals are using this to bring violence and disorder to our streets.

“We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.

“Our officers should not have to face this, but we will be there tonight to ensure the safety of the local community who have suffered enough, and will arrest those involved in criminal behavior.”

Have a go at the British public, easy target

where is his statement about the 3000 undocumented military aged illegal migrants who have been welcomed into the UK since Labour took over?

The Police's job is to protect the British people not abuse and gaslight them??

Nothing about the killer, who he is, who his parents are, where did the knife come from, what was on his phone, why did he target young English girls, what was the motive, was he a Christian or Muslim or had no religion?

Do your job

[Vanessa]

There are riots going on right now. People have had enough and rightly so.

[Crimson Dynamo]

There are riots going on right now. People have had enough and rightly so.

i make you right there Ness

[MTVN]

Why are people still going on about illegal immigrants and names on twitter?

Do they not feel stupid enough from yesterday when both those things were proven to be false?

[thesheriff443]

Why are people still going on about illegal immigrants and names on twitter?

Do they not feel stupid enough from yesterday when both those things were proven to be false?

Because people are trying to make it fit their agenda

[Vanessa]

Why are people still going on about illegal immigrants and names on twitter?

Do they not feel stupid enough from yesterday when both those things were proven to be false?

They're from Rwanda. Not illegal. But not good people by the sound of it.

[thesheriff443]

Have a go at the British public, easy target

where is his statement about the 3000 undocumented military aged illegal migrants who have been welcomed into the UK since Labour took over?

The Police's job is to protect the British people not abuse and gaslight them??

Nothing about the killer, who he is, who his parents are, where did the knife come from, what was on his phone, why did he target young English girls, what was the motive, was he a Christian or Muslim or had no religion?

Do your job

I knew it wouldn’t be long before you got you’re true motivation for posting in this thread

Your a disgrace

[thesheriff443]

They're from Rwanda. Not illegal. But not good people by the sound of it.

Stop running around with gossip from the internet

[Alf]

Stop running around with gossip from the internetIs that an order?

[MTVN]

They're from Rwanda. Not illegal. But not good people by the sound of it.

Yes Rwanda, a member of the Commonwealth and a Christian country

So tell me the link to attacking a mosque as has happened tonight or illegal immigrants as keeps being talked about in here

[Vanessa]

Yes Rwanda, a member of the Commonwealth and a Christian country

So tell me the link to attacking a mosque as has happened tonight or illegal immigrants as keeps being talked about in here
To be fair we don't know what their religion is.
So that's a step too far.

[bots]

"At around 7.45pm, a large group of people – believed to be supporters of the English Defence League – began to throw items towards a local mosque on St Luke’s Road in Southport.

"Officers who are deployed are currently dealing with criminal behaviour and violence with bottles and wheelie bins being thrown at them."

"As a result, an officer has suffered a suspected broken nose and police vehicles have been damaged and set alight.

"Additional patrols are now in attendance, including the Dog Section."


----------------

It's far right nutters trying to make the girls murder about immigrants.

They won't be happy until the UK is entirely white

[thesheriff443]

Is that an order?

You can give it a rest

Who gets hurt from riots innocent people the police damage to innocent people’s property and the community as a whole

[bots]

You can give it a rest

Who gets hurt from riots innocent people the police damage to innocent people’s property and the community as a whole

people were up in arms about police getting broken noses in fights, now they think it's ok

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why are people still going on about illegal immigrants and names on twitter?

Do they not feel stupid enough from yesterday when both those things were proven to be false?

You openly cheerleadered the Tories in the last 5 years on here

if you now feel guilty

own it

dont try and pass your guilt on to others

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Evil 17 year old
picked easy targets to stab.

Young English girls

coward

[Vanessa]

People are angry there. I can understand that.
Something needs to be done to protect citizens.

[MTVN]

You openly cheerleadered the Tories in the last 5 years on here

if you now feel guilty

own it

dont try and pass your guilt on to others

Oh dear

Even by your standards this is a pretty messed up way to get your kicks

[bots]

Oh dear

Even by your standards this is a pretty messed up way to get your kicks

take a look at his posts over the last few weeks

[rusticgal]

I just want to know why this 17 year old has not been identified :shrug:

[Alf]

You can give it a rest

Who gets hurt from riots innocent people the police damage to innocent people’s property and the community as a wholeIt was a vigil. People turned up. I've seen no proof of riots from that. The only scenes of rioting I've witnessed so far is when the Police are there in riot gear.

If they were rioting before the police turned up, then you may have a point. Do you have any proof of that? If that didn't happen, then why have the Police shown up in riot gear for a vigil that we have no proof of any riots happening?

Maybe to light a match?

[Vanessa]

I just want to know why this 17 year old has not been identified :shrug:

The name is circulating on Twitter :eyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

People asking, "Why are the protestors in Southport targeting a Mosque"?

During the vigil for the three murdered girls, police arrested a man of Arab
appearance, reportedly with a knife, in Southport town centre, on his way to
attack the vigil

Was this an Islamic terrorist?

Was this an evil opportunist, looking to kill those distracted, in mourning?

Or was this second stabber coordinating with the murderer on Monday?

The British public deserve answers

In any case: these violent criminals did not need to be here

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTww8FCWYAAoH6H?format=png&name=360x360
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTww9BCWoAA9B7H?format=png&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTwxHqvWMAEVI_i?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1818383559108759555

[thesheriff443]

It was a vigil. People turned up. I've seen no proof of riots from that. The only scenes of rioting I've witnessed so far is the Police turning up to that vigil in riot gear.

If they were rioting before the police turned up, then you may have a point. Do you have any proof of that? If that didn't happen, then why have the Police shown up in riot gear for a vigil that we have no proof of any riots happening?

Maybe to light a match?

Go and look at the news

[Crimson Dynamo]

Go and look at the news

what the BBC

SLY News

Channel 4

f me

:joker::joker::joker:

[Parmy]

New name now circulating on X tonight

Could be a better bet

Not the most Welsh sounding if im honest..

He once lived in Wales, he was subsequently housed in social housing in southport....Amazing if it ends up being true he was known to secret service and liverpool mental health services..

Yeah, just let him back into society, his parents seem to have given up on him, let's house him alone at 17...cause you can join the army at that age, and younger.. so he must be an adult..yeah, but can we release his name of anything goes wrong....NO, definitely not. He would have to be an 18 yr old adult for that to happen.

[Alf]

Go and look at the newsAre they the ones that don't have an agenda. The establishment owned news. The ones that keeps the status quo in power?

It's everyone else that has agendas, isn't it, but definitely not them. What's in it for them besides keeping in power?

[Vanessa]

Apparently the crowd got angry when someone with a knife tried to do it all over again. Police arrested him.

[Parmy]

Police constable says violent scenes are ‘sickening'

Assistant Chief Constable Alex Goss said: “It is sickening to see this happening within a community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three young lives.

“In the last 24 hours, we have seen overwhelming support and sympathy from the community and wider Merseyside communities for the families who are currently trying to deal with their loss and care for victims injured during the major incident.

“Yesterday, our officers and other members of the emergency services were faced with one of the most difficult situations they will ever face. Tonight, they find themselves being attacked as they endeavor to prevent disorder.

“The actions in Southport tonight will involve many people who do not live in the Merseyside area or care about the people of Merseyside.

“There has been much speculation and hypothesis around the status of a 17-year-old male who is currently in police custody and some individuals are using this to bring violence and disorder to our streets.

“We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.

“Our officers should not have to face this, but we will be there tonight to ensure the safety of the local community who have suffered enough, and will arrest those involved in criminal behavior.”




2 tier policing again...considering they ran away in leeds for a larger crowd gathering for a mere social worker issue.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/21/87959349-13690233-image-a-44_1722369778338.jpg

[rusticgal]

He once lived in Wales, he was subsequently housed in social housing in southport....Amazing if it ends up being true he was known to secret service and liverpool mental health services..

Yeah, just let him back into society, his parents seem to have given up on him, let's house him alone at 17...cause you can join the army at that age, and younger.. so he must be an adult..yeah, but can we release his name of anything goes wrong....NO, definitely not. He would have to be an 18 yr old adult for that to happen.


Why don’t they tell us then?….i have not heard anyone of any authority say that he cannot be named because of his age :shrug:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/21/87961811-13690233-image-a-70_1722371840025.jpg

[Liam-]

Violent, racist thugs exploiting the murder of children to go out, get pissed and riot in the streets, they’re just scum bags honestly.

And they’ll be the exact same people who were last week saying that you deserve to get your head stamped on if you hit police, the worst kinds of dregs of our society

[Vanessa]

It happened in Southend tonight as well.
I suppose they'll blame this on mental health as well. Family was hard working nice people :facepalm:

[Vanessa]

Why don’t they tell us then?….i have not heard anyone of any authority say that he cannot be named because of his age :shrug:
He's 17, but nearly 18.

[Alf]

Violent, racist thugs exploiting the murder of children to go out, get pissed and riot in the streets, they’re just scum bags honestly.

And they’ll be the exact same people who were last week saying that you deserve to get your head stamped on if you hit police, the worst kinds of dregs of our societyYou're a fascist.

[Parmy]

people were up in arms about police getting broken noses in fights, now they think it's ok

The live feed I had the decency to post in another thread as not to derail this one disproves what you posted. With the time you claim it happened.

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/07/30/4883254746044845252/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_4883254746044845252.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

this was Southend on Sea tonight

https://x.com/GoldingBF/status/1818391298686013569

:douf:

You're welcome

[Alf]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/07/30/4883254746044845252/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_4883254746044845252.jpgI just see the Police in those photos. Is that who they mean by "Mob"

[Parmy]

Violent, racist thugs exploiting the murder of children to go out, get pissed and riot in the streets, they’re just scum bags honestly.

And they’ll be the exact same people who were last week saying that you deserve to get your head stamped on if you hit police, the worst kinds of dregs of our society

Looks like angry locals to me, probably many related to the victims.

[rusticgal]

He's 17, but nearly 18.



I know….but why don’t the authorities tell us this is why instead of leaving everyone to speculate.

[MTVN]

this was Southend on Sea tonight

https://x.com/GoldingBF/status/1818391298686013569

:douf:

You're welcome

Openly promoting Britain First now?

[rusticgal]

Looks like angry locals to me, probably many related to the victims.


I doubt it…

[Ninastar]

Holy **** this is genuinely one of my biggest fears. RIP to those who have died

[Ninastar]

Genuinely have not heard a thing about this anywhere. What the ****

[Vanessa]

Genuinely have not heard a thing about this anywhere. What the ****

It's on Twitter and Facebook.

[Ninastar]

It's on Twitter and Facebook.

Yeah I have both of those and have not seen it

[Glenn.]

Looks like angry locals to me, probably many related to the victims.

Chanting “allah allah, who the **** is allah”

Racist thugs more like than anything else

[Alf]

Openly promoting Britain First now?How is he promoting Britain first? He's sharing a video from twitter that has been posted by a fellow free country man of yours.

You're the only one who mentioned Britain first. So if there was any promotion, it came from you.

[Parmy]

Genuinely have not heard a thing about this anywhere. What the ****

I'm surprised. Taylor swift must have been tagged by all media outlets

[Parmy]

I doubt it…

There must be some...:shrug:

[Parmy]

Chanting “allah allah, who the **** is allah”

Racist thugs more like than anything else

Who is god...is that not what you say?

[MTVN]

How is he promoting Britain first? He's sharing a video from twitter that has been posted by a fellow free country man of yours.

You're the only one who mentioned Britain first. So if there was any promotion, it came from you.

So posting a tweet by the leader of Britain First who has BF in his twitter handle is nothing to do with Britain First? Gotcha

[Alf]

Who is god...is that not what you say?God is a race of people to Glenn.

[Alf]

So posting a tweet by the leader of Britain First who has BF in his twitter handle is nothing to do with Britain First? GotchaKeir Starmer probably has Labour in his twitter handle. So is sharing a video from him promoting Labour?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Keir Starmer probably has Labour in his twitter handle. So is sharing a video from him promoting Labour?

Usual shut down tactics from the MSM sipping kool aid crew

they are out their depth

still watching the bbc and repeating party line

:joker:

[Parmy]

Usual shut down tactics from the MSM sipping kool aid crew

they are out their depth

still watching the bbc and repeating party line

:joker:



No need for joker smileys in this thread tyvm.

[MTVN]

Keir Starmer probably has Labour in his twitter handle. So is sharing a video from him promoting Labour?

Depends on context but generally yes you'd be promoting the Labour party if you were bringing attention to a tweet by the leader of the Labour party

[thesheriff443]

Usual shut down tactics from the MSM sipping kool aid crew

they are out their depth

still watching the bbc and repeating party line

:joker:

You are a sick sad bastard and every one knows it including you
Turning the death of three girls into racial hatred

[bots]

hijacking this thread for anti immigrant racist agendas is disgusting.

[MTVN]

No need for joker smileys in this thread tyvm.

He posted three on the last page

This whole story is just another laugh to LT. I can accept it when we're just shitposting on the UK election or whatever but it has a very different flavour here

[Alf]

Depends on context but generally yes you'd be promoting the Labour party if you were bringing attention to a tweet by the leader of the Labour partySo what was your concern then?

[Crimson Dynamo]

QHfBgdMC6fk

[MTVN]

So what was your concern then?

Britain First is a racist political party

[Glenn.]

He posted three on the last page

This whole story is just another laugh to LT

The lows that he has sunk too in the last few weeks is disturbing.

How he is allowed to post the absolute vile stuff he does is so wrong. Where are the mods and why isn’t anything being done about him?

[Alf]

Britain First is a racist political partySo are Labour

Difference is. Britain First have zero power, whilst Labour do.

[Parmy]

He posted three on the last page

This whole story is just another laugh to LT

Nah. I doubt that very much. It's hard to know how to react when everyone pounces on you( which peole have these past few days). I dont think he sees it as funny at all. In my opinion, his search for the truth makes me believe he takes it more serious than many people grieving about how tragic the event is are.

[Parmy]

The only thing that's certain in my mind at this moment is that all these events are going to inspire many other impressionable minds, and the retaliation will be mass civil unrest, and that last part will be the only thing this government cracks down on.

[Zizu]

The only thing that's certain in my mind at this moment is that all these events are going to inspire many other impressionable minds, and the retaliation will be mass civil unrest, and that last part will be the only thing this government cracks down on.


Yes

I honestly fear the worst and I am so thankful we live are surrounded by countryside ..


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[bots]

Px4RmwgPGwI

[Cherie]

This is the last thing grieving families needed

[Zizu]

Let’s hope all these illegal immigrants really have just come to work … not fight .. or we are well and truly fcuked


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[Vanessa]

This is the guy who attacked a police officer during the vigil. This sparked the riot and the attack at the mosque.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240730/9683a7afb88b02e08849dfac4d349631.jpg

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[Zizu]

Southend

https://x.com/EuropeInvasionn/status/1818395916128186737


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[Ninastar]

Ugh just read through the whole thread. Some truly awful comments from both sides of the argument going on here.

As someone who has worked with kids for most of their career, this is genuinely my biggest fear. Whether it’s a school shooting, terrorist, gang or mental health related, it’s every teachers worst nightmare.

One thing I have noticed is that pretty much every teacher is willing to die for their kids. I’ve only ever had one “school shooting” action meeting and it was very harrowing indeed. We had a firefighter come out and basically tell us to either run if possible or fight to kill. He gave us some pretty useful ideas of every day items you can use to attempt to defend yourself. One was a hammer, we mentioned kitchen/adult scissors/pots or pans if said childcare has a kitchen. He told us that if we stand there and beg to live, we are dead. And he’s right.

People who pick these places to commit their attacks are total cowards who are targeting the ‘weaker’ ppl that cannot fight back.

Ugh my heart hurts reading all of this.

Jesus Christ

[Vanessa]

Southend

https://x.com/EuropeInvasionn/status/1818395916128186737


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I go there all the time. Frightening!

[Ninastar]

And now ppl are attacking a mosque… good ****ing god

[Vanessa]

We're definitely under attack. No point pretending otherwise. It can't be all coincidence?

[Zizu]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240730/2588e7ef7b8510ae22f8e0578f3c80e0.jpg


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[Zizu]

Well you were all sooo happy when Labour were elected to power ..


Things were going to be sooo much better ..starting from day 1 …


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[thesheriff443]

Well you were all sooo happy when Labour were elected to power ..


Things were going to be sooo much better ..starting from day 1 …


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What a stupid thing to say
As if another party being in power would of stopped this incident

[Parmy]

And now ppl are attacking a mosque… good ****ing god

This guy explains it all very well.

https://www.youtube.com/live/U74-Diqg7KE?si=KrfgQWkmphEAf3en

[bots]

Zizu, this is the 3rd time you have posted stuff that has not been verified regarding the 17 year old's name. Why can't you just wait for it to come from a verified source

[GoldHeart]

I'm so fed up of the mental health excuse. It's not good enough! We need to protect children. They're going to need security in schools and gyms soon.

I'm sick and tired of hearing the mental health excuse aswell.

This is evil and horrific .

[Zizu]

Zizu, this is the 3rd time you have posted stuff that has not been verified regarding the 17 year old's name. Why can't you just wait for it to come from a verified source


Really ?

Thought it was the first ..

Just looked genuine



As regards waiting for a verified source .. I don’t trust much these says soooooo

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[Zizu]

The police are surrounded by hundreds ..

Dangerous situation

They should have shot this protestor with a stun dart- he was throwing rocks down from the roof of a police van

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[Zizu]

What a stupid thing to say
As if another party being in power would of stopped this incident


Its not stupid- we haven’t had scenes like this for ages.. just look at that list of shocking events shown a few posts previous all since Starmer took the reins


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[Zizu]

https://x.com/EuropeInvasionn/status/1818421085945421920


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[Zizu]

Mmmm

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240731/bfea8b35acc0c53b0b2859a96b9e7c41.jpg


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[GoldHeart]

This guy explains it all very well.

https://www.youtube.com/live/U74-Diqg7KE?si=KrfgQWkmphEAf3en

i'm watching the video, he actually makes some very valid good points .

[Mystic Mock]

And now ppl are attacking a mosque… good ****ing god

People love any excuse to cause carnage.

[Mystic Mock]

Well you were all sooo happy when Labour were elected to power ..


Things were going to be sooo much better ..starting from day 1 …


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Labour can't be blamed for this.:joker:

They've barely just got in.

[Redway]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTqb4ZrWsAAw69e?format=png&name=small

It’s usually more the other way around and you know it.

[GoldHeart]

Labour can't be blamed for this.:joker:

They've barely just got in.

The funny thing is (well not funny as in ha ha) .... when the tories were in power, there was a contradictory theme . If Labour wasn't accusing them of 'blocking asylum seekers from entering the country' , then Reform was accusing them of 'letting too many immigrants into the country'... very bizarre times and peculiar narrative from all sides .

And things will only get worse now that Labour are in power, yes Starmer is still in his honeymoon stage ..... but i find it concerning that so much chaos and violence has kicked off in the space of days and weeks. Starmer isn't entirely to blame, the issues is far bigger than that. But you can tell the government hasn't got a clue how to handle it all. And it's far more complicated than it all being rooted in ' hate for foreigners' and 'rise in racist yobs', people are angry and scared and in genuine fear & worry.

The images shown are like drunken football hooliganism... with predominantly white people screaming , but i think both sides of the media are unfairly bias and will always push a certain agenda. apparently Starmer was heckled and it was edited out or something.

[Mystic Mock]

The funny thing is (well not funny as in ha ha) .... when the tories were in power, there was a contradictory theme . If Labour wasn't accusing them of 'blocking asylum seekers from entering the country' , then Reform was accusing them of 'letting too many immigrants into the country'... very bizarre times and peculiar narrative from all sides .

And things will only get worse now that Labour are in power, yes Starmer is still in his honeymoon stage ..... but i find it concerning that so much chaos and violence has kicked off in the space of days and weeks. Starmer isn't entirely to blame, the issues is far bigger than that. But you can tell the government hasn't got a clue how to handle it all. And it's far more complicated than it all being rooted in ' hate for foreigners' and 'rise in racist yobs', people are angry and scared and in genuine fear & worry.

The images shown are like drunken football hooliganism... with predominantly white people screaming , but i think both sides of the media are unfairly bias and will always push a certain agenda. apparently Starmer was heckled and it was edited out or something.

Oh we've clearly got societal issues in this country that has been bubbling for awhile.

I do also agree with you that Labour's response to the situation could be a little stronger.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/629c/live/299df8f0-4ec4-11ef-8f0f-0577398c3339.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/244a/live/e1adead0-4ec5-11ef-aebc-6de4d31bf5cd.jpg.webp

[Redway]

Usual shut down tactics from the MSM sipping kool aid crew

they are out their depth

still watching the bbc and repeating party line

:joker:

You’re a wretched piece of racist filth.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/3510/live/60dc8d60-4ec7-11ef-8f0f-0577398c3339.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2cb7/live/8c8c3f20-4ec5-11ef-8f0f-0577398c3339.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/360b/live/415279b0-4ec6-11ef-aebc-6de4d31bf5cd.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/0540/live/c0b55300-4ec4-11ef-8f0f-0577398c3339.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/caca/live/8e2dc4b0-4ec6-11ef-aebc-6de4d31bf5cd.jpg.webp

[Mystic Mock]

Keir Starmer probably has Labour in his twitter handle. So is sharing a video from him promoting Labour?

How can promoting Labour be compared to promoting Britain First?

One has dangerous ideology, the other one doesn't.

[arista]

[Thirty-nine police officers injured in Southport unrest]


[Thirty-nine police officers have been
injured during a protest in Southport hours
after a vigil took place to remember the
victims of a knife attack in which three
children were killed,
the North West Ambulance Service said.

Earlier, Merseyside Police said
eight officers sustained serious injuries
including fractures, lacerations,
a suspected broken nose and concussion.
Other injuries included one officer being knocked
unconscious,
as well as some suffering head and
serious facial injuries.
Three police dogs were also hurt,
with two having bricks thrown at them.

The protest, which police said was believed
to involve English Defence League supporters,
began only a few streets away from
Wednesday's vigil location,
near to a mosque on St Luke's Road in Southport.

Those involved threw bricks at the mosque,
set fire to cars and wheelie bins and caused damage
to a local convenience store, police said.
In total, 27 officers were taken to hospital,
and 12 were treated and discharged
at the scene, the ambulance service said.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gyv882nvo

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/31/02/87972465-0-image-a-82_1722388554747.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13691247/Southport-thugs-torched-police-mosque-violent.html

[Zizu]

Part one


https://x.com/plinketyplink2/status/1818383624179470779?s=46




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[Zizu]

Part 2

https://x.com/tomlatchem/status/1818387851903746176?s=46


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[Cherie]

[Thirty-nine police officers injured in Southport unrest]


[Thirty-nine police officers have been
injured during a protest in Southport hours
after a vigil took place to remember the
victims of a knife attack in which three
children were killed,
the North West Ambulance Service said.

Earlier, Merseyside Police said
eight officers sustained serious injuries
including fractures, lacerations,
a suspected broken nose and concussion.
Other injuries included one officer being knocked
unconscious,
as well as some suffering head and
serious facial injuries.
Three police dogs were also hurt,
with two having bricks thrown at them.

The protest, which police said was believed
to involve English Defence League supporters,
began only a few streets away from
Wednesday's vigil location,
near to a mosque on St Luke's Road in Southport.

Those involved threw bricks at the mosque,
set fire to cars and wheelie bins and caused damage
to a local convenience store, police said.
In total, 27 officers were taken to hospital,
and 12 were treated and discharged
at the scene, the ambulance service said.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gyv882nvo

These people are despicable

[AnnieK]

These people have no regard for the kids who have lost their lives or the families affected. The monster who did it is reportedly Christian. All this will achieve is more unrest and those children will be forgotten in the melee.

Just despicable.

[Ammi]

…what’s the expression…’not in my name…’…none of the violent scenes in Southport were in the name of Alice, Bebe or Elsie Dot…those actions were in the name of hate….I'm glad that the vigil was able to tribute and reflect before it al became something else entirely, though…

[arista]

These people are despicable


Police can Stop this today


Release the Killers Name


Get Permission from the Home Secretary

A Reporter on Newsnight BBC2HD
Last Night has his real name
but under rules could not give it.

He confirmed it is not the name
of what is going around on Social Media.

Give us the Evil killer's Name.

[Cherie]

Police can Stop this today


Release the Killers Name


Get Permission from the Home Secretary

A Reporter on Newsnight BBC2HD
Last Night has his real name
but under rules could not give it.

He confirmed it is not the name
of what is going around on Social Media.

Give us the Evil killer's Name.

Giving the name wont stop them Arista, dont be naive

[Cherie]

Part 2

https://x.com/tomlatchem/status/1818387851903746176?s=46


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I shouldn't laugh but that is funny

[arista]

These people have no regard for the kids who have lost their lives or the families affected. The monster who did it is reportedly Christian. All this will achieve is more unrest and those children will be forgotten in the melee.

Just despicable.


Yes
they were confirmed as not local.

[Ammi]

These people have no regard for the kids who have lost their lives or the families affected. The monster who did it is reportedly Christian. All this will achieve is more unrest and those children will be forgotten in the melee.

Just despicable.

…it really didn’t matter though, did it…?…I’m not sure why a name seemed so urgent when social media are making a name fit the hate in their hearts…whatever name is true, is no matter …

[arista]

Giving the name wont stop them Arista, dont be naive



It cancels the Wrong Name
being used all the time

[AnnieK]

How will knowing his name stop this?
It's been pretty much confirmed he is a British born child of Christian Rwandan parents. Knowing his actual name will prove nothing. The children will still have lost their lives, the kids in hospital will still be fighting for their lives and no motive will be known

[arista]

How will knowing his name stop this?
It's been pretty much confirmed he is a British born child of Christian Rwandan parents. Knowing his actual name will prove nothing. The children will still have lost their lives, the kids in hospital will still be fighting for their lives and no motive will be known


Yes, but it cancels,
the other name being used on Social Media.

[Ammi]

It cancels the Wrong Name
being used all the time

…it’s a bit like a form of terrorism, isn’t it…’give us the name or violence and chaos in the street is what you’ll see…’…that’s exactly what it is…

[Ammi]

Yes, but it cancels,
the other name being used on Social Media.

…the only people who will take an unconfirmed name from social media and use that name for violent acts are filled with hate….so that name really doesn’t matter, that’s what their determination is…to use theses deaths to express hate…

[AnnieK]

Yes, but it cancels,
the other name being used on Social Media.

It won't stop the violence though

[Zizu]

These people are despicable


I have no idea what these people are thinking .

Its the police who are gonna protect us if / when things really start to kick off .

The police aren’t the enemy and never have been


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[Zizu]

Police can Stop this today


Release the Killers Name


Get Permission from the Home Secretary

A Reporter on Newsnight BBC2HD
Last Night has his real name
but under rules could not give it.

He confirmed it is not the name
of what is going around on Social Media.

Give us the Evil killer's Name.


That won’t stop the troubles ..


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[Zizu]

I shouldn't laugh but that is funny


I was the same !!!

Even the text made me chuckle


It’s especially funny when you’ve seen what an idiot he is in the first clip


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[Parmy]

…it’s a bit like a form of terrorism, isn’t it…’give us the name or violence and chaos in the street is what you’ll see…’…that’s exactly what it is…

I will tell you what a form of terrorism is, it's the 100s and 1000s of little kids scared in thier houses today because of this knifeman. Let's see if you can call him a terrorist so readily.

[Vanessa]

Apparently the people responsible for Southport awful events are the same ones who committed the Rwanda genocide.
We have housed them here in the UK!
The deal was to send them back, but since the Rwanda immigration plan was scrapped they're still here.
If this is true the PM is responsible for this.

[Alf]

How can promoting Labour be compared to promoting Britain First?

One has dangerous ideology, the other one doesn't.Which one has the dangerous ideology?

[MTVN]

Apparently the people responsible for Southport awful events are the same ones who committed the Rwanda genocide.
We have housed them here in the UK!
The deal was to send them back, but since the Rwanda immigration plan was scrapped they're still here.
If this is true the PM is responsible for this.

That makes zero sense Vanessa

It just smacks of someone linking the only two things they know about Rwanda to this attack - the fact there was a genocide there and that there was a failed migration plan involving them

[Vanessa]

That makes zero sense Vanessa

It just smacks of someone linking the only two things they know about Rwanda to this attack - the fact there was a genocide there and that there was a failed migration plan involving them

Well his father is a diplomat and he's being protected :suspect:

[Parmy]

Ammi.

British community riot after triple murder.. white man terrorist.

Roma community riot after social service incident..roma man must be understood.


Yeah, your condemnation in this thread and lack off in the leeds thread says it all, to me, about you.

[arista]

The 9 year old girl killed
was from Portugal.


[The girl was identified as Alice Aguiar by
Portuguese Secretary of State for
Communities Jose Cesario.
He said her family, who were originally
from the Madeira region,
were in a state of shock.

Merseyside Police said the other fatalities
were girls aged 6 and 7.]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/third-child-dies-after-uk-stabbing-attack-at-taylor-swift-themed-dance-class

[arista]

Paul Brand ITN
said he thinks false info
came from USA.


He was chased away by the thugs last night.

They would not talk to him.

[Vanessa]

I don't agree with what happened last night, but I totally get why people are pissed off.
If this keeps happening I can see riots happening all over the UK.

[Oliver_W]

What are those rioters even trying to achieve?

Idiots.

[bots]

what we saw last night was extreme right wing nationalists hijacking the the murder of 3 little girls for their own racist agenda. We have a rule of law in this country and rioting in the streets is not acceptable

[AnnieK]

Well his father is a diplomat and he's being protected :suspect:

Who is being protected? And from what?

[arista]

8 Police are badly injured
Around 40 Police have minor injuries

[Cherie]

8 Police are badly injured
Around 40 Police have minor injuries

Who would want to join the police ..the day before they witnessed scenes they will have nightmares about for years the night after they are being attacked for doing their job

[bots]

So many people are becoming indoctrinated by online misinformation

[arista]

Well his father is a diplomat and he's being protected :suspect:


[Diplomatic immunity is a principle of
international law by which
certain foreign government
officials are recognized as having
legal immunity from the jurisdiction
of another country.
It allows diplomats safe passage and freedom
of travel in a host country and affords
almost total protection from local
lawsuits and prosecution]

[Cherie]

No one is being protected it's the law he can't be named

As for X nothing is verified on there anyone can post anything and a lot of accounts are Russian BOTS stoking up trouble

[Ammi]

Mother of girl, 7, stabbed to death in Southport issues plea to rioters to 'stop the violence'…

The mother of a seven year-old girl stabbed to death in the Southport knife attacks has issued a plea to rioters after a night of violence and terror for residents.

Three young girls died after a knifeman walked into a Taylor Swift-themed holiday club and attacked those inside on Monday morning. Eight other children suffered stab wounds during the attack - with a number of them said to remain in a critical condition in hospital. Two adults were also injured 'bravely' trying to save children. One is said to be fighting for her life.

Elsie Dot Stancombe was described by her school as a 'one of a kind pupil' and a 'a caring and charismatic young lady who loved to please'.

READ MORE: Southport stabbings LIVE: Nearly 40 police officers injured after violent unrest erupts following vigil

Her mum, Jenni Stancombe, took to social media after police came under attack from large groups of yobs who initially surrounded a mosque in Southport close to the scene of the stabbings.

Police vehicles were set alight, bottles and bricks thrown and burning wheelie bins rammed at police lines as widespread rioting followed a peaceful vigil for the victims.

In a message widely shared on social media, Ms Stancombe said: "This is the only thing that I will write, but please stop the violence in Southport tonight."

Speaking about the police, she added: "The police have been nothing but heroic these last 24 hours and they and we don't need this."


…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/mother-girl-7-stabbed-death-065514385.html

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTyg_4yWQAAxoPY?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

It always amazes me how quickly these yobs can mobilise identify them and stop their benefits or sack them if they are in work

[thesheriff443]

I don't agree with what happened last night, but I totally get why people are pissed off.
If this keeps happening I can see riots happening all over the UK.

All those that go on the streets to riot are scum bags

[Ammi]

…Taylor Swift fans in partnership with Alder Hey Children’s Charity have now raised over £275,000 for the families of the victims…:love:..

[bots]

The whole thing is so obviously stupid. 3 little girls get murdered so lets all go out on a racist riot with no proof other than misinformation on social media

People have been spouting racist misinformation since the beginning of this thread

[Parmy]

The whole thing is so obviously stupid. 3 little girls get murdered so lets all go out on a racist riot with no proof other than misinformation on social media

People have been spouting racist misinformation since the beginning of this thread




You have no concrete proof that it was a racist riot...looked more anti police than anything.

[Mystic Mock]

Giving the name wont stop them Arista, dont be naive

Exactly Cherie.

These rioters just want to cause carnage, and they've the perfect excuse to do it.

[Mystic Mock]

Which one has the dangerous ideology?

Britain First obviously.:laugh:

[Alf]

It always amazes me how quickly these yobs can mobilise identify them and stop their benefits or sack them if they are in workStarve them to death. Is that what you're saying here Cherie? Because without a job or benefits, that's what will happen, won't it?

[bots]

You have no concrete proof that it was a racist riot...looked more anti police than anything.

it started at a mosque, they have all been saying the killer is an illegal immigrant, of course there is proof.

Britain first are a racist organisation. So stop saying there is no proof

[Zizu]

The 9 year old girl killed
was from Portugal.


[The girl was identified as Alice Aguiar by
Portuguese Secretary of State for
Communities Jose Cesario.
He said her family, who were originally
from the Madeira region,
were in a state of shock.

Merseyside Police said the other fatalities
were girls aged 6 and 7.]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/third-child-dies-after-uk-stabbing-attack-at-taylor-swift-themed-dance-class


Why on Earth would you move from Portugal to live in bladdy Southport !


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[arista]

Why on Earth would you move from Portugal to live in bladdy Southport !




Could have been a slum in Portugal

[Alf]

Britain First obviously.:laugh:What about the ones that went to war on a lie, killing over a million people. Labour.

Give me an example of what Britain First has done that is more dangerous than killing over a million people?

[Zizu]

Could have been a slum in Portugal


Have you been to Southport ?


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[Vanessa]

Labour won't last. Less than a month and the country is a mess.

[Parmy]

it started at a mosque, they have all been saying the killer is an illegal immigrant, of course there is proof.

Britain first are a racist organisation. So stop saying there is no proof

It ended up at a mosque after a local muslim was arrested with a foot long knife on his way to the peaceful vigil.

Britain first is a political party, not a racist organisation.. wasnt it edl members getting blamed as well..the same edl the government said is not a thing anymore.


But yeah, I suppose it's ok to jump on that bandwagon without knowing the identities or towns the rioters are from...let's wait and see where the arrested live and who they are before judging...

[AnnieK]

Labour won't last. Less than a month and the country is a mess.

The country has been a mess for a long time...........all this unrest doesn't stem from just a month

[Vanessa]

The country has been a mess for a long time...........all this unrest doesn't stem from just a month

No, but they're losing control. They haven't got a clue.

[Cherie]

Starve them to death. Is that what you're saying here Cherie? Because without a job or benefits, that's what will happen, won't it?

50 injured officers would agree

[Alf]

50 injured officers would agreeYou make them officers sound genocidal. I'm sure they're not.

[Livia]

Watching Starmer arrive in Southport to lay flowers someone else had clearly provided,, looked like a cynical photo opportunity.

[Vanessa]

All these politicians don't care about the victims. If they did they would definitely something about what happened to make sure it's not repeated.

[thesheriff443]

Watching Starmer arrive in Southport to lay flowers someone else had clearly provided,, looked like a cynical photo opportunity.

If he doesn’t take flowers he is a heartless arshole
If he takes flowers he a schemming arshole

[thesheriff443]

All these politicians don't care about the victims. If they did they would definitely something about what happened to make sure it's not repeated.

What would stop it happening again?

[AnnieK]

All these politicians don't care about the victims. If they did they would definitely something about what happened to make sure it's not repeated.

What can be done to stop it being repeated though?

[smudgie]

Well you were all sooo happy when Labour were elected to power ..


Things were going to be sooo much better ..starting from day 1 …


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The government of the day can’t be blamed for everything.
Especially only a month in.

[smudgie]

We're definitely under attack. No point pretending otherwise. It can't be all coincidence?

Who from.
The rioters?

[Liam-]

Where were the riots about Lucy Letby?

[Vanessa]

Who from.
The rioters?

All those incidents of knife crime can't be all coincidence.
Unchecked immigration has lead to this.
Of course it's only my opinion.