Southport: 17year old Arrested Terrorist with Knife Killed 3 Children, Wounded many

[arista]

All Media.

Police so far have not
given much news on this.


We need to find out if this is a nutter
or worse.

["At around 11.50am, we were called to a property
on Hart Street to reports of a stabbing.

"There are a number of reported casualties
and more details will be confirmed when possible.

"Armed police have detained a male and
seized a knife. He has been taken to
a police station.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cevwgqz0x41t

[Cherie]

Heard unconfirmed reports he went into a daycare centre and stabbed children

[Parmy]

Up to 20 people with stab wounds

[Kate!]

Disgraceful

[Zizu]

Right either he is detained for absolute life or lethal injection

Nothing else

Not a ten year sentence- serving 4


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[Vanessa]

Let me guess : he has mental health problems. Always the same.
Lock him up and throw away the key.

[Ammi]

Police have declared a "major incident" in Southport after reports of a stabbing and a "number of reported casualties".

Police said a knife had been seized and that a man had been detained but urged the public to avoid the area near Hart Street.

North West Ambulance Service said at least eight people were stabbed and taken to hospital, some to a children's hospital.

Southport 'major incident' - follow live updates

In a statement, Merseyside Police said: "We can confirm that emergency services are in Southport following a major incident this morning, Monday 29 July.

"At around 11.50am, we were called to a property on Hart Street to reports of a stabbing.

"There are a number of reported casualties and more details will be confirmed when possible.

"Armed police have detained a male and seized a knife. He has been taken to a police station.

"Please avoid the area while we deal with this incident. There is no wider threat to the public."

North West Ambulance Service said it received reports of "multiple stabbings".

"We're attending a major incident on Hart Street, Southport following reports of multiple stabbings in which we have dispatched multiple resources," it said.

"We're assessing the situation and working with emergency partners."

Residents nearby have been talking to local media, with one woman who alerted neighbours and told them to lock their doors and windows.

She told the Liverpool Echo: "It was about 12.20pm, I think, and we heard loads of sirens and then there was a helicopter circling above.

"Then the messages started to go around the local WhatsApp groups, saying 'lock your windows, lock your doors', we were told a man was running around stabbing people.

"We are all absolutely terrified, panicking and sick with worry - everyone is trying to reach anyone they know in the area. I don't know how this can happen on a Monday lunchtime."

[Ammi]

…terrifying…just really not much news coming very quickly but medical care is always the priority, obviously…

[bots]

if they describe this as another case of mental illness, i am going to demand resignations

[Cherie]

Alder Hey Childrens Hospital has declared a critical incident with the number of casualties arriving

[Ammi]

…one of the eyewitnesses account…I’m not sure whether the victims/adults and children were all females…

Man who called police describes scene
published at 14:29
14:29
Warning: This post contains distressing details
A local business owner - who called the police after the stabbings - has described the scene as like something "in a horror movie".
Colin Parry, owner of Masters Vehicle Body Repairs on Hart Street, tells the PA news agency he believes a number of "young girls" had been stabbed.
Parry also describes mothers heading to the scene of the incident and "screaming".
Police have not yet confirmed the ages or identities of the victims.

[Cherie]

Unconfirmed reports it was a Taylor Swift party he attacked

[bots]

**** sake, people that try and kill children are another level of evil

[Cherie]

It was a summer dance class for kids

[Ammi]

Attack believed to have happened at children’s yoga and dance club
The incident is believed to have taken place in a premises called The Hart Space, a unit within the Norwood Business Centre behind Hart Street in Southport.

The unit was being used to host a Taylor Swift themed children’s yoga and dance holiday club.

The club, for children in Years 2 to 6, was due to take place between 10am and 12pm and was sold out.

[Ammi]

A man has been arrested after one person was left dead following a mass stabbing of at least eight people in a major incident in Southport.

Merseyside Police confirmed that armed police arrested a man and seized a knife following the incident, which happened on Monday.

North West Ambulance Service said eight people with stab injuries had been treated so far and taken to various hospitals including the Alder Hey Children's Hospital.

It was also reported that at least one person has died in the attack.

What we know

Merseyside Police said officers were called to a property on Hart Street in Southport at around 11.50am on Monday to reports of a stabbing.

It said armed police detained a man and seized a knife. He has been taken to a police station.


North West Ambulance Service (NWAS) said eight patients had been treated for “stab injuries” following the “major incident” and they had been taken to nearby hospitals.

They included Alder Hey Children’s Hospital which released a statement confirming it had declared a major incident.

“We ask parents to only bring their children to the emergency department if it is urgent," it said. “All other appointments and services are running as normal.”

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said: "Horrendous and deeply shocking news emerging from Southport. My thoughts are with all those affected."

He thanked emergency services for their response and said he was being kept updated on the incident.

Home Secretary Yvette Cooper said: "I am deeply concerned at the very serious incident in Southport. All my thoughts are with the families & loved ones of those affected.

"I have spoken to the Merseyside Police & Crime Commissioner to convey full support to the police & thanks to the emergency services responding.

I am deeply concerned at the very serious incident in Southport. All my thoughts are with the families & loved ones of those affected.

I have spoken to the Merseyside Police & Crime Commissioner to convey full support to the police & thanks to the emergency services responding.

— Yvette Cooper (@YvetteCooperMP) July 29, 2024



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/southport-stabbing-update-attack-police-what-we-know-131827331.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Children ran into the street bleeding from knife wounds, says eye-witness
A group of children ran into the street from the nursery bleeding and suffering stab wounds, an eyewitness said.

Bare Varathan, 35, who owns a corner shop on Hart Street, said he was called by a staff member who told him, “Boss, get to the shop!”

He said: “I saw seven to ten kids outside the nursery. They were injured, bleeding. They were in the road, running from the nursery.

“They had been stabbed, here, here, here, everywhere. (Mr Varathan indicated the neck, back and chest area).

“They were all aged about ten. One of them was really seriously injured.

“I hope they will be OK. Only two police jeeps and ambulances arrived, then armed police came and took him out of the nursery.

“Somebody told me he had arrived in a taxi and had a knife.”

[bots]

We need to start thinking about having people trained in protection attending childrens gatherings

[GiRTh]

Disturbing

[Cherie]

We need to start thinking about having people trained in protection attending childrens gatherings

Soon all schools, after school clubs and summer clubs will have security, Jewish schools already have this, its just another step that will be needed to protect children who are easy targets

[Zizu]

Whats his nationality ?


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[Ammi]

…it’s being reported by multiple medias that the one death is a child…

[Cherie]

…it’s being reported by multiple medias that the one death is a child…

omg that is just tragic if true

[AnnieK]

Absolutely horrific

[Ammi]

Southport stabbing: 'One child dead' and seven people injured after knifeman rampages through a Taylor Swift-themed kids' dance and yoga workshop at summer holiday club…

One child was reportedly killed and at least seven people were injured by a knifeman who rampaged through a Taylor Swift-themed children's workshop in Southport this morning.

Armed police officers swooped on Hart Street in Merseyside, at 11.50am after the stabbing spree at a children's dance and yoga workshop, which locals said is usually the 'most lovely, lovely relaxing place'.

Merseyside Police officers detained a man and seized a knife after the horrendous attack that was likened to a scene from a 'horror movie'.



The force urged people to avoid the area but said there was 'no wider threat' to the public. The spree left one child dead in the quiet seaside town, the Liverpool Echo reported.

Around 25 children were believed to have been taking part in the event for schoolkids aged between six and 11 when the horror unfolded at the workshop in a hypnobirthing centre.

People at the scene said they saw a man in a 'black hood' arrive in a taxi with a knife before people were left on the street 'screaming' and 'in tears'.

Locals said they saw children running from the building and assumed there had been a car accident because a vehicle was covered in blood.

But they quickly realised something more sinister had occurred when they saw 'seven to ten kids' who were 'injured and bleeding' outside the nursery.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13684031/Stabbing-spree-leaves-multiple-casualties-including-children-knifeman-targets-Southport-property.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have seen quite a few posts on X about the killer and its not looking good from what i have seen so the POlice and MSM will want it covered up for as long as possible - if true..

If true its going to cause a real stink...

[Ammi]

…I wonder if it was known by the attacker that the yoga/dance class was going to be a fully subscribed as well because it’s being reported that the event had attracted more children than other times…I wonder if he knew that and that’s why he chose that event…

[Ammi]

…also the killer/attacker arriving in a taxi…so surely had no thoughts of leaving the scene after he’d harmed/killed children…

[arista]

8 children Stabbed

One Black Man arrested

[Crimson Dynamo]

8 children Stabbed

One Black Man arrested

His name already on X and his profile if true is going to cause a real stink

[Oliver_W]

His name already on X and his profile if true is going to cause a real stink

Why? Is it someone in the public eye?

[Cherie]

Why? Is it someone in the public eye?

possibly an illegal immigrant?

[Oliver_W]

possibly an illegal immigrant?

Possibly. I don't know the situation in Southport but would an obviously "foreign" name really kick things off?

[Cherie]

Possibly. I don't know the situation in Southampton but would an obviously "foreign" name really kick things off?

lets just wait and see, but I doubt people will be over the moon if he is here illegally?

[Crimson Dynamo]

17 year old arrested

FFS

[Vanessa]

If it's an illegal immigrant they really need to start to send those boats back. You don't know who you're letting in.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police say not terror related

sorry what is their definition of "Terror" these days?

[Cherie]

"We can confirm that a 17-year-old male from Banks, who was arrested in connection to the stabbing in Southport this morning, Monday 29 July, remains in police custody and will be questioned about the incident.

"At this early stage, enquiries are ongoing to establish the motive for this tragic incident and we would urge people not to speculate while the investigation is ongoing.

"We can also confirm that the incident is not currently being treated as terror-related and we are not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident.

"Any updates will be provided to the public when available.

"Communities can also follow Merseyside Police on social media for updates and if they want to submit information, they can do so on the Merseyside Police website or Crimestoppers."

BBC


Not terror related, I guess we are going down the mental health route then

[Gusto Brunt]

I don't know the full story but it sounds horrific. :(

[Vanessa]

I'm so fed up of the mental health excuse. It's not good enough! We need to protect children. They're going to need security in schools and gyms soon.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm so fed up of the mental health excuse. It's not good enough! We need to protect children. They're going to need security in schools and gyms soon.


Every person who commits crimes like this are mentally unstable

[AnnieK]

Banks, where it is saying the 17 year old from, is a lovely village too.

[Vanessa]

Every person who commits crimes like this are mentally unstable

Definitely, but I see a bit of a pattern. There's definitely more to it and it's not just the mental health. I'd say this is the definition of terror related.

[Ammi]

8 children Stabbed

One Black Man arrested

…where does it report a skin colour, Arista…?…all of the medias that I’ve read either describe ‘a male’ or a ‘teenager’ …I’d be interested to read that expanding report/article….

[Ammi]

Banks, where it is saying the 17 year old from, is a lovely village too.

…yeah, that’s what I was reading…horrendous for those who live in the surrounding area as well and anyone who witnessed any horrific/frightening scenes today…

[jet]

Absolutely heartbreaking...their poor parents...:bawling:

[bots]

Under 18, he will probably get community service. There are certain events hit you harder than others, and i find it very difficult to absorb how a group of happy 10 year old girls can end up being attacked in this way. Attacks on vulnerable people whether that means they are young or old or alone and no threat to anyone are becoming more and more frequent and it has to stop.

[Ammi]

Under 18, he will probably get community service. There are certain events hit you harder than others, and i find it very difficult to absorb how a group of happy 10 year old girls can end up being attacked in this way. Attacks on vulnerable people whether that means they are young or old or alone and no threat to anyone are becoming more and more frequent and it has to stop.

…I think the yoga/dance event was open to primary school Year 2 - Year 6 …so some of the children may have been 6 years old and upwards to 11 yrs old…

[arista]

…where does it report a skin colour, Arista…?…all of the medias that I’ve read either describe ‘a male’ or a ‘teenager’ …I’d be interested to read that expanding report/article….


It was on LBC Live

[AnnieK]

I've read it was a man with a black hood

[arista]

I've read it was a man with a black hood


Yes that's what LBC Live said

[arista]

Police Update
6:30PM

[Ammi]

It was on LBC Live




I've read it was a man with a black hood

…ahh ok, I didn’t see that reported anywhere online is all…in any of the new medias…as Annie said, I did read also earlier this afternoon that a man with a black hoodie was seen getting out of the taxi by one of the shop owners/business owners in the area…

[Ammi]

Yes that's what LBC Live said

…so was it his hoodie being described again or skin colour, then..?…/…I’m confused…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Interesting that the suspect is 17 and therefore we dont get to know his identity -I wonder how sure the police are that the man/boy is actually 17?

[arista]

…so was it his hoodie being described again or skin colour, then..?…/…I’m confused…


LBC said it was a black man
in a black hoodie


Of course,
The Police are Live soon.

on SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Police are running late

GBnewsHD and SkyNewsHD both ready

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9bea/live/04ef70d0-4dcd-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.png.webp

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police are running late

GBnewsHD and SkyNewsHD both ready

If the man is an illegal migrant they will do everything they can to lie and cover this up. If he is a white national they will throw him to the wolves..

:idc:

[arista]

If the man is an illegal migrant they will do everything they can to lie and cover this up. If he is a white national they will throw him to the wolves..

:idc:


For Sure

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/29/18/87908149-0-image-m-14_1722272783577.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/29/15/87900239-13684031-The_attack_happened_at_a_Taylor_Swift_themed_yoga_ and_dance_work-m-1_1722262433345.jpg

[The attack reportedly happened at a
Taylor Swift themed yoga and dance workshop]

[bots]

a woman heard a mother scream when she found her daughter stabbed and unconscious. Thats a sound that will never leave you

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/29/18/87909243-13685045-image-m-6_1722274094508.jpg

[An aerial shot of police descending on the scene
of a horror knifing spree which saw children stabbed]


Police say it is not Terrorist

[arista]

I do hope the Police
give us the Skin colour
of the stabber.

I only heard he was black on LBC radio
so it could be wrong

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/29/18/87909243-13685045-image-m-6_1722274094508.jpg

[An aerial shot of police descending on the scene
of a horror knifing spree which saw children stabbed]


Police say it is not Terrorist

this it from google maps

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5951&stc=1&d=1722275692

[arista]

Police are Live

2 Children are Dead


The Killer is from Cardiff

[arista]

The Two adults were stabbed as they tried to protect
the children.

Reports
some children were stabbed in the back

[bots]

i'm sorry, but when children are murdered in a terror attack, it is terrorism and if this doesn't meet their narrow criteria, they need to change it

[arista]

i'm sorry, but when children are murdered in a terror attack, it is terrorism and if this doesn't meet their narrow criteria, they need to change it


Yes I agree with you

[Crimson Dynamo]

i'm sorry, but when children are murdered in a terror attack, it is terrorism and if this doesn't meet their narrow criteria, they need to change it

Its driving me crazy this - is it now only a Terrorist incident if it involves planes full of people going into buildings?

[arista]

Police Lady in charge
did not tell us the what Colour the Stabber
is?


She was very brief
All she said he was from Cardiff

[Zizu]

I don’t care if the lad was poorly - he offers nothing more than a threat to innocent people

In cases like this we don’t need go through a long lasting, emotional and ludicrously exhausting trial


He should get a lethal injection tonight and have done with it .. the families of the children would be thankful


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[arista]

The Evil 17 year old
picked easy targets to stab.

[Zizu]

possibly an illegal immigrant?


There will be riots in the north west if is an illegal immigrant ..


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[arista]

There will be riots in the north west if is an illegal immigrant ..





We have await the Police to tell us


All we have
he was from Cardiff.

[Parmy]

The terror police will be to busy arresting Tommy Robinson for showing movies to show this any interest.

[arista]

2 Children Dead

9 Injured:
2 Adults
7 Children


PM Starmer has said everyone is shocked,
he sends his thoughts to the families

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/29/18/87909793-0-image-m-1_1722275925501.jpg

[Merseyside Police Chief Constable Serena Kennedy ]

In charge of this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Chocolate teapot springs to mind

[bots]

he is under 18, there won't be any details made public about him

[arista]

he is under 18, there won't be any details made public about him

Bugger



I only heard he was black on LBC


No one else said it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he is under 18, there won't be any details made public about him

Id like to see the evidence he is under 18

seems rather convenient

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13685293/Two-children-confirmed-dead-Southport-knife-rampage-Six-fight-lives-hospital-horror-attack-Taylor-Swift-themed-dance-workshop-boy-17-arrested.html

https://news.sky.com/story/southport-stabbings-two-children-killed-in-attack-police-confirm-13186980

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cevwgqz0x41t

[Ammi]

…another child has died with their in injuries…?…just world shattering for these families today…:,/ …

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13685293/Two-children-confirmed-dead-Southport-knife-rampage-Six-fight-lives-hospital-horror-attack-Taylor-Swift-themed-dance-workshop-boy-17-arrested.html

https://news.sky.com/story/southport-stabbings-two-children-killed-in-attack-police-confirm-13186980

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cevwgqz0x41t

that is not evidence that is the MSM towing the Police narrative

[bots]

it's really not possible to cover something like this up. People know where he lives etc

[Crimson Dynamo]

Surely one witness has talked to the media and given a description of what the man looks like?

Or have the Police/MSM nobbled them?

[Vanessa]

Just read this on twitter. Not sure show accurate. But exactly as I thought. https://x.com/DVATW/status/1817986239683068128?t=b2W1EsZRNQO329pNahHS1g&s=19

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just read this on twitter. Not sure show accurate. But exactly as I thought. https://x.com/DVATW/status/1817986239683068128?t=b2W1EsZRNQO329pNahHS1g&s=19

I dont think any media source would have any access to a name at the mo so im calling false?

[Vanessa]

I dont think any media source would have any access to a name at the mo so im calling false?

When they say mental health issues it's usually asylum seekers. For some reason they're protected and allowed to do as they please. Disgusting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/29/18/87909793-0-image-m-1_1722275925501.jpg

[Merseyside Police Chief Constable Serena Kennedy ]

In charge of this.

This woman has said to the world "he is originally from Cardiff"



So lets just see and remember

[Cherie]

This guy knew what he was doing, he went by taxi to the venue, its not like he randomly pulled a knife in a public place, same with the guy who attacked the soldier, targetted attacks.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTq_CtjXMAAcbTt?format=jpg&name=small

[Vanessa]

This guy knew what he was doing, he went by taxi to the venue, its not like he randomly pulled a knife in a public place, same with the guy who attacked the soldier, targetted attacks.
100% terror related. But these people are protected and allowed to do as they please.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTrI2RPWAAALn-5?format=jpg&name=small


So he could be black

[Vanessa]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTrI2RPWAAALn-5?format=jpg&name=small


So he could be black
They're coming to the UK for terrorism and they're actually welcomed :facepalm:

[bots]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTrI2RPWAAALn-5?format=jpg&name=small


So he could be black

that looks a bit fake to me

[AnnieK]

They will not be allowed to release a name as he is under 18. I think a judge has to lift reporting restrictions when it involves a minor

[Zizu]

This guy knew what he was doing, he went by taxi to the venue, its not like he randomly pulled a knife in a public place, same with the guy who attacked the soldier, targetted attacks.


Hopefully they have arrested the taxi driver as well … for questioning


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[Zizu]

that looks a bit fake to me


Hopefully

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240729/cd623a16ecb08af65eb500f2695dc715.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240729/676644dca2400e0fd49735f74fc8b26c.jpg


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[Vanessa]

What is jaa ?

[bots]

the well known station channel3now

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTqb4ZrWsAAw69e?format=png&name=small

[AnnieK]

Hopefully they have arrested the taxi driver as well … for questioning


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Why arrest the taxi driver? Was he involved or just doing his job in taking a fare to the destination they have asked to go to?

[Alf]

They will not be allowed to release a name as he is under 18. I think a judge has to lift reporting restrictions when it involves a minorHow fortunate that he was just one year under the age.

My point is, I don't believe he was 17. I think that as per usual, we are being lied to.

It's not like we haven't been lied to before.

[Vanessa]

How fortunate that he was just one year under the age.

My point is, I don't believe he was 17. I think that as per usual, we are being lied to.

It's not like we haven't been lied to before.
I also don't think he's 17. They can say what they want, no one is checking on them. They can come to the UK and do what they want. And they know it.

[AnnieK]

A lot of assumptions being made in this thread. Not surprising given the magnitude and horrificness of what has happened but all assumptions until we find out exactly who he is. He will have to appear in court if charged but I imagine the hearing will be behind closed doors if he is, in fact, a minor.

If he is an adult they will release his name....they have with the guy who stabbed the soldier. If it can be released it will have to be.

[Vanessa]

A lot of assumptions being made in this thread. Not surprising given the magnitude and horrificness of what has happened but all assumptions until we find out exactly who he is. He will have to appear in court if charged but I imagine the hearing will be behind closed doors if he is, in fact, a minor.

If he is an adult they will release his name....they have with the guy who stabbed the soldier. If it can be released it will have to be.

So many similar incidents all passed off as not terror related. Mental health issues. Blah blah blah Are we being played?

[Alf]

A lot of assumptions being made in this thread. Not surprising given the magnitude and horrificness of what has happened but all assumptions until we find out exactly who he is. He will have to appear in court if charged but I imagine the hearing will be behind closed doors if he is, in fact, a minor.

If he is an adult they will release his name....they have with the guy who stabbed the soldier. If it can be released it will have to be.My assumption comes from that the only accurate detail they are giving the people is that he's definitely 17.

He may be, but I have reason, from past form, not to believe that.

[AnnieK]

So many similar incidents all passed off as not terror related. Mental health issues. Blah blah blah Are we being played?

I agree that the terminology needs looking at with regards to what constitutes a terror attack. Surely anything that generates terror is by definition a terror attack, particularly if there are multiple casualties as today.

The most important thing, for me though, is not his nationality or race or religion, it is the fact that 2 children have lost their lives and others are critically injured. That is where my tho7ghts are this evening, not with the scum who did it

[Vanessa]

I agree that the terminology needs looking at with regards to what constitutes a terror attack. Surely anything that generates terror is by definition a terror attack, particularly if there are multiple casualties as today.

The most important thing, for me though, is not his nationality or race or religion, it is the fact that 2 children have lost their lives and others are critically injured. That is where my tho7ghts are this evening, not with the scum who did it
We could be under attack and the government doesn't seem worried at all. Which is crazy!

[AnnieK]

My assumption comes from that the only accurate detail they are giving the people is that he's definitely 17.

He may be, but I have reason, from past form, not to believe that.

Who do you think is lying though? The Police? If they have lied it will become obvious when he attends court so what will they gain by lying? Only losing more public support for the Police

[bots]

we don't even know if he is an immigrant. Those photo news stories above look very dodgy to me. Designed to inflame racial tension. It's a bit too obvious to pass close scrutiny.

People will have seen him, 100's of people probably. People know the area he lived in, they will know exactly who he is, so if police were pulling a fast one, it would be pointed out very quickly and I surely don't need to point out that these are young children that have been murdered and injured. The police, fire and ambulance are loyal to the devastated families above anyone else

[AnnieK]

We could be under attack and the government doesn't seem worried at all. Which is crazy!

We are not under attack.....those children were today. This is becoming a little bit hysterical now.

[Vanessa]

We are not under attack.....those children were today. This is becoming a little bit hysterical now.
I've seen some twitter posts saying that this is justified because Europe colonising other countries. Mad.

[AnnieK]

I've seen some twitter posts saying all manner of mad things....people are crazy on twitter and a lot of what is said on there is just theor to inflame and cause worry and distrust

[Vanessa]

I've seen some twitter posts saying all manner of mad things....people are crazy on twitter and a lot of what is said on there is just theor to inflame and cause worry and distrust

Uncheck immigration. We don't know who they're letting in. Surely criminals should not be allowed to stay?

[Zizu]

Why arrest the taxi driver? Was he involved or just doing his job in taking a fare to the destination they have asked to go to?


Pretty sure I wouldn’t be dropping off a young man at a children’s group if he looked remotely suspicious


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[Crimson Dynamo]

How fortunate that he was just one year under the age.

My point is, I don't believe he was 17. I think that as per usual, we are being lied to.

It's not like we haven't been lied to before.

I get the feeling if he was a white national we would know by now

bit like that illegal who stabbed kids in Ireland and they kept that quiet for ages, i think it was 1 month?

[bots]

I've seen some twitter posts saying all manner of mad things....people are crazy on twitter and a lot of what is said on there is just theor to inflame and cause worry and distrust

thats exactly it. People are even doing it in this thread, surprise surprise

[Zizu]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240729/0667a55d2be3344443e0e1e6d435149b.jpg


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[bots]

that one again looks very dodgy

[jet]

I've seen some twitter posts saying all manner of mad things....people are crazy on twitter and a lot of what is said on there is just theor to inflame and cause worry and distrust

If the murdering thug is Caucasian, that detail should be released ASAP to nip racial tension and fevered speculation in the bud.

[Crimson Dynamo]

surely someone saw him and has taken to Social Media

seems very odd to me

[AnnieK]

If the murdering thug is Caucasian, that detail should be released ASAP to nip racial tension and fevered speculation in the bud.

This is what is annoying me though, why are people more interested in his race than actually saying how awful it is that he killed the kids?

Would people be happier if he was a white, English guy who killed them? Will we then think that all white English guys are capable of killing kids? Do you think the families will get comfort if it was someone who was here legally who killed the kids?

The children are dead.....families have been destroyed. Fixating on his race / religion will not change that.

[Vanessa]

The account was suspended. But this is what he wrote https://x.com/GoldingBF/status/1817984202580836371?t=JtxSEwjyMv_x-iKYn28gsg&s=19

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is what is annoying me though, why are people more interested in his race than actually saying how awful it is that he killed the kids?



they are not, you just made it up as it suits your politics

people can be both things

[Zizu]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240729/044d9255353c7c7cad14ede7255d11cd.jpg


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[AnnieK]

they are not, you just made it up as it suits your politics

people can be both things

Keep telling yourself that.

You have no idea what my politics are, I never disclose anything on here so please don't assume to know anything about me.

[jet]

This is what is annoying me though, why are people more interested in his race than actually saying how awful it is that he killed the kids?

Would people be happier if he was a white, English guy who killed them? Will we then think that all white English guys are capable of killing kids? Do you think the families will get comfort if it was someone who was here legally who killed the kids?

The children are dead.....families have been destroyed. Fixating on his race / religion will not change that.

Absolutely.
I was just responding to you posting "people are crazy on twitter and a lot of what is said on there is just theor to inflame and cause worry and distrust".

If that is the case, that detail would stop all that and it would be a sensible move.
I don't go on those sites so I don't know what people are saying, apart from on here.

[Livia]

I think people are worried about this person being an illegal migrant because we've let in so many in the last few years and know nothing about them. They number around three times the strength of our current standing army. No one's more worried about his nationality than they are about the children who died and were injured, but the continued violence from illegals is very concerning.

[Cherie]

I get the feeling if he was a white national we would know by now

bit like that illegal who stabbed kids in Ireland and they kept that quiet for ages, i think it was 1 month?

that is not right, he was an immigrant but had Irish Citizenship and had been in the country for years

[Crimson Dynamo]

that is not right, he was an immigrant but had Irish Citizenship and had been in the country for years

my bad he was an unemployed migrant on benefits and they kept his name out the media for a month

[bots]

an evil, depraved person did this atrocity today. Making comments like what colour was he, when we haven't been a white nation for several generations now, just doesn't make sense. If he was a recent immigrant, yes, that would be good to know, but again, what are people going to do if he is. Go on a rampage causing death and destruction? Stop anyone coming into the country? good luck with that. People have an agenda, and it's about time they admitted it. They want conflict with anyone not deemed white

[Alf]

I think people are worried about this person being an illegal migrant because we've let in so many in the last few years and know nothing about them. They number around three times the strength of our current standing army. No one's more worried about his nationality than they are about the children who died and were injured, but the continued violence from illegals is very concerning.Exactly. The only thing that the majority of people are in disgust with right now is that our children are being stabbed to death and the others traumatised.

That's where our anger is from. It's nothing to do with race of people.

It's actually the people facilitating this illegality where the most anger is pointed to. But that point just doesn't seem to be coming across. They're too busy on their high horse calling everyone a racist.

[Liam-]

This is what is annoying me though, why are people more interested in his race than actually saying how awful it is that he killed the kids?

Would people be happier if he was a white, English guy who killed them? Will we then think that all white English guys are capable of killing kids? Do you think the families will get comfort if it was someone who was here legally who killed the kids?

The children are dead.....families have been destroyed. Fixating on his race / religion will not change that.

Because there are people out there that don’t give a toss about victims of crimes, especially horrific, violent crimes like this one, they just hope that the outcome is something they can use to push their racist, white, Christian agenda, it’s sickening that it’s always the first question on peoples minds.

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1818010816219673054?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[Vanessa]

Exactly. The only thing that the majority of people are in disgust with right now is that our children are being stabbed to death and the others traumatised.

That's where our anger is from. It's nothing to do with race of people.

It's actually the people facilitating this illegality where the most anger is pointed to. But that point just doesn't seem to be coming across. They're too busy on their high horse calling everyone a racist.
And this is exactly the problem. If you raise concerns you're called a racist.
I can't wait to retire and get the hell out of the UK.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1818010816219673054?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

no they said from Cardiff

not born in Cardiff

unless they have updated this?

if so please provide evidence

[Alf]

And this is exactly the problem. If you raise concerns you're called a racist.
I can't wait to retire and get the hell out of the UK.Don't worry Ness, you're living in the best country in the history civilisation.

The British army is as good as it gets and the Americans are our great allies that have the braun.

Just pray for a Trump win and some sanity to return to humanity.

[Ammi]

Statement from Chief Constable Serena Kennedy following major incident in Southport…


It is with great sadness that today I am here to advise that two young children have died as a result of injuries sustained in a knife attack this morning.

"Nine other children have been injured, and six of them are in a critical condition, all those injured have suffered stab wounds sustained during the attack. Two adults are also in a critical condition after being injured during the incident.

"A 17-year-old male from Banks in Lancashire, who was born in Cardiff, has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder and has been taken to a police station where he will be interviewed by detectives

"My officers were called to reports of a stabbing at 11.47am at an address Southport. When they arrived they were shocked to find that multiple people, many of whom were children, had been subjected to a ferocious attack and had suffered serious injuries.

"It is understood that the children were attending a Taylor Swift event at a dance school when the offender, who was armed with a knife, walked into the premises and started to attack those inside. We believe that the adults who were injured were trying to protect the children at the time they were attacked.

"As a mum of two daughters, and the nanna of a five-year-old granddaughter, I cannot begin to imagine the pain and suffering the families of the victims are currently going through and I want to send them our heartfelt condolences and sympathies.

"Our specialist Family Liaison Officers are providing support to the families at this terrible time.

"I would appeal to anyone who witnessed anything, or who has information that could help our investigation or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

"Anyone who has been affected by this incident, can contact our Victim Care Merseyside service for help and support.
Our hub of local, trained staff is here to provide free, emotional and practical support tailored to your needs.

"You can contact Victim Care Merseyside for help whether you have reported a crime to the police or not by calling Freephone 0808 175 3080 on weekdays between 8am and 6pm or request support online at any time at www.victimcaremerseyside.org."


https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/statement-from-chief-constable-serena-kennedy-following-major-incident-in-southport/

[Vanessa]

But they raided social housing for immigrants. :suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

"The youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons and is originally from Cardiff, moved
to the Southport area with his Rwandan parents when he was aged six."

oh

[Crimson Dynamo]

in a press conference, Chief Constable Serena Kennedy, of Merseyside Police, said that
while the incident was not being treated as terror-related, colleagues from counter-terror
policing had offered to assist with the investigation.

oh (x2)

[AnnieK]

So not an illegal immigrant then? Born in Cardiff makes him a UK citizen then? OH

[Alf]

So not an illegal immigrant then? Born in Cardiff makes him a UK citizen then? OHNot Taffy Griffiths was it?

[Crimson Dynamo]

So not an illegal immigrant then? Born in Cardiff makes him a UK citizen then? OH

did i say he was illegal ?

the similarity to the Manchester arena bomber tho

wow

[Crimson Dynamo]

we have a massive problem in the UK and its time it was addressed and not excused to try and win some imaginary culture war

Jesus wept

[Vanessa]

So not an illegal immigrant then? Born in Cardiff makes him a UK citizen then? OH

A lot of people who committed terrorist attacks here in the UK were actually born here. We have a problem.

[Vanessa]

we have a massive problem in the UK and its time it was addressed and not excused to try and win some imaginary culture war

Jesus wept
We have , but it's not being addressed and that's very worrying.

[Vanessa]

did i say he was illegal ?

the similarity to the Manchester arena bomber tho

wow
Yes that's exactly what I was thinking of

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that the Southport stabber is not a new arrival, but a second-
generation immigrant, is worse

It means assimilation efforts completely failed

Born in Cardiff, brought up in Merseyside, and still derranged enough to stab
a nursery full of children on a whim

Despite over a decade of interactions with state institutions, he never
developed a love for those "British values" we keep hearing about


Just like the Parnell Square stabbings last year, where perpetrator Riad
Bouchaker was an Algerian who lived in Ireland for twenty years, and
stabbed three children and a school worker

Today's Southport attack demonstrates the uncomfortable truth: that
platitudes about diversity, or abundant opportunities to earn money in a gig
economy, do not make good neighbours out of new arrivals or their children


We have had too many examples now to pretend this is not the case. Too
many children have died to continue to fear causing offence

Every last foreign criminal must be sent home

Every foreign benefits claimant must have their cash flow stopped

No more must be let in, until we work out if we have admitted more
monsters like this into our midst

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTr60p7WsAA4h3n?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1818041187124789328

[Livia]

Because there are people out there that don’t give a toss about victims of crimes, especially horrific, violent crimes like this one, they just hope that the outcome is something they can use to push their racist, white, Christian agenda, it’s sickening that it’s always the first question on peoples minds.

No one cares about the kids who were horrifically murdered and injured. Only you, Liam, right.

[Vanessa]

The fact that the Southport stabber is not a new arrival, but a second-
generation immigrant, is worse

It means assimilation efforts completely failed

Born in Cardiff, brought up in Merseyside, and still derranged enough to stab
a nursery full of children on a whim

Despite over a decade of interactions with state institutions, he never
developed a love for those "British values" we keep hearing about


Just like the Parnell Square stabbings last year, where perpetrator Riad
Bouchaker was an Algerian who lived in Ireland for twenty years, and
stabbed three children and a school worker

Today's Southport attack demonstrates the uncomfortable truth: that
platitudes about diversity, or abundant opportunities to earn money in a gig
economy, do not make good neighbours out of new arrivals or their children


We have had too many examples now to pretend this is not the case. Too
many children have died to continue to fear causing offence

Every last foreign criminal must be sent home

Every foreign benefits claimant must have their cash flow stopped

No more must be let in, until we work out if we have admitted more
monsters like this into our midst

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTr60p7WsAA4h3n?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1818041187124789328

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

No one cares about the kids who were horrifically murdered and injured. Only you, Liam, right.

I treat him now as a parody account

come on folks it must be?

( and im not joking to get a rise out of him, i swear)

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a952c20a-c162-4dd0-ac58-4cd54a94d7d7.jpeg

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-5c496ce8-77de-419b-9e8d-e6c0a5ed6d51.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-844e1328-d1eb-4524-af3e-361e3cf50387.jpeg

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-0610cd95-6df2-42c9-86dd-e9b55119cd15.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-453f08f9-011e-486c-b216-25a40ef35465.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-7af27891-b006-4f7d-8229-d07df56c0ba0.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-2e3436f2-95fa-4184-958b-1975d4ee5d6e.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-0c4f3529-ea2c-4976-80b7-be652cd89a9d.jpeg

[Redway]

Heard unconfirmed reports he went into a daycare centre and stabbed children

My giddy aunt. That’s awful.

[Zizu]

A lot of people who committed terrorist attacks here in the UK were actually born here. We have a problem.


Kinda worrying that they feel that they have to immediately release a statement that specifically mentions his place of birth …
It suggests that we are living in a powder keg


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[Ammi]

Kinda worrying that they feel that they have to immediately release a statement that specifically mentions his place of birth …
It suggests that we are living in a powder keg


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…it feels as though it’s becoming a society of mob rule, tbh…social media was becoming crazy with false information and I imagine the police feel pressured to release information that they feel will calm the frenzy…

[Ammi]

…those poor, poor families and all who witnessed any of it…

…we went for a walk yesterday evening and one of the things we pass is a child play area…which in this warm weather is always quite buzzing with children/families in the evenings…yesterday evening there was no one and it felt so marked in parents holding their children close within their home…lots of parents will be feeling that atm and I imagine lots of play/social commitments being cancelled…

[arista]

Ammi it appears
LBC was right to say he is black.

Taken From the Daily Telegraph:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTsGswpWQAA9qHU?format=jpg&name=small

[Ammi]

Ammi it appears
LBC was right to say he is black.

Taken From the Daily Telegraph:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTsGswpWQAA9qHU?format=jpg&name=small

…the skin colour appears to be correct but I’m not sure what relevance it has in any reporting, though or to the horrific events that unfolded yesterday and what he did ….

[arista]

Nothing wrong with giving all the facts.

As that Police Chief lady
was brief.

[Ammi]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTrI2RPWAAALn-5?format=jpg&name=small


So he could be black

…well, you weren’t confident of those ‘facts’ yourself, Arista…and lots of false information being fabricated about those ‘facts’ so I would say that it’s hugely questionable that there is ‘nothing wrong with it’ until the information is given …what’s that saying…?..a little information is a dangerous thing…?…that’s certainly true in our world today…

[arista]

…well, you weren’t confident of those ‘facts’ yourself, Arista…and lots of false information being fabricated about those ‘facts’ so I would say that it’s hugely questionable that there is ‘nothing wrong with it’ until the information is given …what’s that saying…?..a little information is a dangerous thing…?…that’s certainly true in our world today…

Yes, yesterday,
as it was out there
it can be posted.


But now the Daily Telegraph has given a proper update
better than the brief Police.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTsGswpWQAA9qHU?format=jpg&name=small

[Ammi]

…I’m not getting into this with you, Arista or playing this game …the attacker was a UK citizen/born in Wales and from early childhood was a local resident in the Southport area…the heritage of his parents or grand parents or great grandparents etc…has no bearing on his actions or this heinous attack…

[arista]

Yes Evil 17-year-old
Killer

[Vanessa]

But a lot of people who have committed terrorist crimes in here were actually born in the UK and that's a frightening fact.

[thesheriff443]

…I’m not getting into this with you, Arista or playing this game …the attacker was a UK citizen/born in Wales and from early childhood was a local resident in the Southport area…the heritage of his parents or grand parents or great grandparents etc…has no bearing on his actions or this heinous attack…

To be fair we don’t know if his childhood had any impact on his actions
He could of been bullied for being different before we know

[Ammi]

Yes Evil 17-year-old
Killer

…yes, evil 17yr old killer…we agree, Arista…

[thesheriff443]

But a lot of people who have committed terrorist crimes in here were actually born in the UK and that's a frightening fact.

It’s no different really than the Mafia in Italy home grown killers instead of imported ones

[Vanessa]

It’s no different really than the Mafia in Italy home grown killers instead of imported ones

Yes we still have that problem to this day.

[Ammi]

…just a grand shout out to a hero…63yr old Jonathan Hayes was stabbed in the leg while putting himself between the attacker and a child in an attempt to protect the child and disarm the attacker…

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/00/87923035-13686371-image-m-18_1722297564840.jpg

[Ammi]

…he’s a local businessman and at the scene at the time…

[Vanessa]

…just a grand shout out to a hero…63yr old Jonathan Hayes was stabbed in the leg while putting himself between the attacker and a child in an attempt to protect the child and disarm the attacker…

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/00/87923035-13686371-image-m-18_1722297564840.jpg
Amazing. What a hero

[Mystic Mock]

…just a grand shout out to a hero…63yr old Jonathan Hayes was stabbed in the leg while putting himself between the attacker and a child in an attempt to protect the child and disarm the attacker…

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/00/87923035-13686371-image-m-18_1722297564840.jpg

Very impressive.

He is definitely more brave than I would be in a scenario like that.

Hopefully I don't get caught up in a scenario like that, but you get what I mean.:laugh:

[Livia]

I'm not sure any of us would be able to stand by and do nothing while a monster slaughtered little kids.

[arista]

Yes good on him.

If anyone has a Knife and is trying to attack,
take your jacket off if you can,
to wrap around it.

[AnnieK]

I'm not sure any of us would be able to stand by and do nothing while a monster slaughtered little kids.

Yeah I agree. I think something would kick in to make most adults try to protect kids when something bad is happening. You hear of parents being able to pick up cars off their kids, its some primal protection instinct I think. I would happily rip the limbs from anyone who wanted to hurt my kid.

[Livia]

Yeah I agree. I think something would kick in to make most adults try to protect kids when something bad is happening. You hear of parents being able to pick up cars off their kids, its some primal protection instinct I think. I would happily rip the limbs from anyone who wanted to hurt my kid.

Yes... It is something primal.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/08/87932493-13687297-image-a-1_1722326078120.jpg
[The local teacher saved 16 children as the
25-strong class aged between six and 11,
while nine children were taken to hospital and
six remain in a critical condition

Brave Leanne Lucas, 35, (pictured) who
organised the Taylor Swift-themed workshop,
suffered stab injuries after the man
entered the venue through the unlocked door,
which was left open amid the scorching heat]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687297/hero-teacher-saved-innocent-children-fighting-life-hospital-southport.html

[Livia]

arista I imagine all she will be able to think about are those she couldn't save. Brave girl...

[Vanessa]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/08/87932493-13687297-image-a-1_1722326078120.jpg
[The local teacher saved 16 children as the
25-strong class aged between six and 11,
while nine children were taken to hospital and


six remain in a critical condition

Brave Leanne Lucas, 35, (pictured) who
organised the Taylor Swift-themed workshop,
suffered stab injuries after the
entered the venue through the unlocked door,
which was left open amid the scorching heat]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687297/hero-teacher-saved-innocent-
children-fighting-life-hospital-southport.html
One amazing woman. Really brave. Praying she makes a full recovery.

[arista]

arista I imagine all she will be able to think about are those she couldn't save. Brave girl...


Yes real sad two children died

[bots]

6 children and 2 adults remain in a critical condition, so this really isn't over yet, until they all come off the critical list.

anyone who saw the attack or the aftermath will likely never recover from it either. It took me a long time to get the images of Lockerbie out of my head as i drove past the town the morning after it happened. Some things just stay with you

[Crimson Dynamo]

6 children and 2 adults remain in a critical condition, so this really isn't over yet, until they all come off the critical list.

anyone who saw the attack or the aftermath will likely never recover from it either. It took me a long time to get the images of Lockerbie out of my head as i drove past the town the morning after it happened. Some things just stay with you

I also drove past the very next morning and it was horrific

[Ammi]

…this was written/posted by Taylor Swift on her Instagram…

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/w5Am.k6fR6S0U1xDKNnDuQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTE3MDY-/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2024-07/aab6b050-4e59-11ef-96df-1bb85d7dc479

[arista]

Thats fair enough.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/12/87938227-0-image-m-4_1722337333696.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687801/Taylor-Swift-reaction-Southport-stabbing.html

[arista]

More Tragic News
a 3rd
child has sadly died.

[bots]

yeah, with that number still critical, it wasn't looking good

[AnnieK]

Heartbreaking news....this situation just keeps getting worse for the families affected

[Ammi]

…just devastating…and we also don’t know what long term/life impact to any of those injured…

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/12/87938767-0-image-m-6_1722338258692.jpg

[Livia]

Three little kids dead and they're still protecting the identity of the monster who killed them because he's 17.

[Zizu]

I'm not sure any of us would be able to stand by and do nothing while a monster slaughtered little kids.


I’m 100% certain that I would have attacked him with a chair or umbrella or something..

I wouldn’t just run barehanded at him though


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[Zizu]

Very impressive.

He is definitely more brave than I would be in a scenario like that.

Hopefully I don't get caught up in a scenario like that, but you get what I mean.:laugh:


He deserves an award .. CBE MBE or OBE or whatever ..


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[Ammi]

…the child who lost her life in the early hours was 9yrs old…the other two children who have died were 6yrs old and 7yrs old…

[thesheriff443]

Three little kids dead and they're still protecting the identity of the monster who killed them because he's 17.

It won’t bring those kids back knowing who is won’t change anything

[Zizu]

…the child who lost her life in the early hours was 9yrs old…the other two children who have died were 6yrs old and 7yrs old…


So 3 dead children thus far ..

They just said that a 17 year old youth was undergoing questioning !!

He would be being beaten black and blue in some countries as we speak


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[Cherie]

Police rule out terrorism as a motive, but still don't know what his motive was, says it all really

[Cherie]

…the child who lost her life in the early hours was 9yrs old…the other two children who have died were 6yrs old and 7yrs old…

I honestly don't know how their families will cope with this

[Livia]

It won’t bring those kids back knowing who is won’t change anything

I believe we have a right to know. They named the monsters who killed Jamie Bulger, how is this different?

[Livia]

I honestly don't know how their families will cope with this

My heart breaks for those families. It is quite unimaginable.

[Vanessa]

Police rule out terrorism as a motive, but still don't know what his motive was, says it all really

This is the definition of terrorism. And it will keep happening, because the government doesn't think we have a problem.

[thesheriff443]

I believe we have a right to know. They named the monsters who killed Jamie Bulger, how is this different?

It’s at a very early stage trying to gather evidence
We don’t need trial by social media
We don’t need dick heads talking bollox to promote there own agenda

[AnnieK]

I believe we have a right to know. They named the monsters who killed Jamie Bulger, how is this different?

I am sure they will name him after trial and rightly so.

James Bulgers killers were Child A and Child B until after the trial.

[Livia]

I am sure they will name him after trial and rightly so.

James Bulgers killers were Child A and Child B until after the trial.

After he's charged hopefully. I don't care who he is or where he comes from, he's a monster.

[Livia]

It’s at a very early stage trying to gather evidence
We don’t need trial by social media
We don’t need dick heads talking bollox to promote there own agenda

It is in the early stages, but it's not like there will be mitigating circumstances, they know he's guilty.

[thesheriff443]

After he's charged hopefully. I don't care who he is or where he comes from, he's a monster.

He is a monster that joins a list of monsters

[Crimson Dynamo]

He lived in a street of back to back houses so people in that street must know, his pals and their parents must know - all use social media so it will come out soon

There is one name on X that has been used time and time again but iv not so far seen decent enough evidence to think its true

[thesheriff443]

It is in the early stages, but it's not like there will be mitigating circumstances, they know he's guilty.

Well because he is 17 we don’t know if he will be tried as an adult yet
They could also come out with due to legal reasons we will not be naming him at this time.

[AnnieK]

After he's charged hopefully. I don't care who he is or where he comes from, he's a monster.

Can the Police name him though? I'm not sure how it works if he is a minor, I thought it had to be a judge that lifts the reporting restrictions. Can that happen at a preliminary hearing?

You're and dead right about that though, he is a monster.

If it were my kid he had killed like that, I'd only need 5 minutes in a room with him.

[Parmy]

It won’t bring those kids back knowing who is won’t change anything

It could be the 1st rung on how to stop future attacks though.

[thesheriff443]

It could be the 1st rung on how to stop future attacks though.

It actually wouldn’t be
someone who is willing to do that isn’t thinking about themselves

[bots]

Can the Police name him though? I'm not sure how it works if he is a minor, I thought it had to be a judge that lifts the reporting restrictions. Can that happen at a preliminary hearing?

You're and dead right about that though, he is a monster.

If it were my kid he had killed like that, I'd only need 5 minutes in a room with him.

typically, judges don't lift restrictions until after the trial. The recent example being the murder in reading by those 2 evil kids

[Parmy]

It actually wouldn’t be
someone who is willing to do that isn’t thinking about themselves

I bet they would have named him if he died in the army, him being of legal age to join and all that.:shrug:

[Livia]

Can the Police name him though? I'm not sure how it works if he is a minor, I thought it had to be a judge that lifts the reporting restrictions. Can that happen at a preliminary hearing?

You're and dead right about that though, he is a monster.

If it were my kid he had killed like that, I'd only need 5 minutes in a room with him.

No, I know their hands are tied. I just can't remember being so angry...

[Ammi]

First named child victim, nine, of Southport stabbing attack is Portuguese girl whose parents are 'desolate and broken' by her murder - as tributes pour in for the 'happy smiley girl with a bright life ahead'…


One of the three children killed in the horror Southport stabbing attack was today named as Alice Aguiar, as her devastated loved ones said their princess had been taken by a 'despicable human being.'

Friends and family paid tribute to the youngster today after it emerged the nine-year-old had died in hospital of her injuries.

The latest tragedy comes a day after a knife rampage that had already left two girls - aged just six and seven - dead.


Five further children aged between six and 11 remain in a critical condition, Merseyside Police confirmed, alongside two female adults who 'bravely tried to protect them'.

A 17-year-old boy remains in custody accused of murder and attempted murder and is being questioned following the incident in Southport, Merseyside, on Monday.

Police say they are not looking for anyone else and do not believe the incident is terrorism related.

Portuguese Foreign Ministry sources confirmed today a Portuguese girl had died.

One said: 'Portugal's Consul General in Manchester is assisting the family, having spoken to her parents, and is continuing to offer them all the support they need.'

Alice's mum Alexandra Aguiar is understood to hail originally from Caracas in Venezuela but lived in Madeira along with Alice's father David, before the pair moved to the UK.

Relative Carina Aguiar, a hotel worker who lives in Camara de Lobos in Madeira, posted a link on her social media to news Merseyside Police had confirmed a third child had died following the attack and wrote tear emoticons beside it.

Earlier she posted a photo of a black ribbon on her Facebook alongside Alice's name after writing in an emotional tribute: 'Princess Alice. In this moment of great pain my soul hurts, my body hurts, my mind hurts. I have a lump in my throat.

'You were just an innocent child, a happy smiley girl with a bright life ahead of you which a despicable human being took away from you, without pity, for no reason.

'Look after your mum and dad who are suffering, who are desolate and broken. Fly high our little star. I love you.'

Friend Claudia Trindade responded by saying: 'Have strength. Let my dear God console the hearts of her parents.'

Magda Fernandes said: 'I have no words. My condolences to the whole family. Lots of strength at this difficult hour.'

Liliana Soares wrote: 'What a huge tragedy. My pretty and innocent angel. Such tremendous pain. My sincerest condolences Carina to the whole family.'

Another family friend, Henrique Drummond, wrote on social media in a direct message to Alice's parents: 'David Aguiar, Alexandra Aguiar. Life is so cruel that an animal takes the life of children, especially our Alice. Lots of strength in these extremely difficult moments.'

A nine-year-old girl has become the third child to die after the Southport stabbing attack at a Taylor Swift-themed holiday dance class.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/13/87941481-13688369-image-a-47_1722343585077.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/13/87941113-13688369-image-a-35_1722342986626.jpg

[thesheriff443]

I bet they would have named him if he died in the army, him being of legal age to join and all that.:shrug:

I don’t write the law parmy im afraid.

We know Lucy letby’s name and that’s made no difference to the loss those parents have to live with.

[Ammi]

typically, judges don't lift restrictions until after the trial. The recent example being the murder in reading by those 2 evil kids

…yeah I was also just thinking of Brianna Ghey’s killers and when the judge lifted the privacy restrictions because it was said that social media had now meant that these things now become known through social media, anyway…?…that might also be the case with this but that would be after the trial and sentencing, if the court made that decision…

[Ammi]

First named child victim, nine, of Southport stabbing attack is Portuguese girl whose parents are 'desolate and broken' by her murder - as tributes pour in for the 'happy smiley girl with a bright life ahead'…


One of the three children killed in the horror Southport stabbing attack was today named as Alice Aguiar, as her devastated loved ones said their princess had been taken by a 'despicable human being.'

Friends and family paid tribute to the youngster today after it emerged the nine-year-old had died in hospital of her injuries.

The latest tragedy comes a day after a knife rampage that had already left two girls - aged just six and seven - dead.


Five further children aged between six and 11 remain in a critical condition, Merseyside Police confirmed, alongside two female adults who 'bravely tried to protect them'.

A 17-year-old boy remains in custody accused of murder and attempted murder and is being questioned following the incident in Southport, Merseyside, on Monday.

Police say they are not looking for anyone else and do not believe the incident is terrorism related.

Portuguese Foreign Ministry sources confirmed today a Portuguese girl had died.

One said: 'Portugal's Consul General in Manchester is assisting the family, having spoken to her parents, and is continuing to offer them all the support they need.'

Alice's mum Alexandra Aguiar is understood to hail originally from Caracas in Venezuela but lived in Madeira along with Alice's father David, before the pair moved to the UK.

Relative Carina Aguiar, a hotel worker who lives in Camara de Lobos in Madeira, posted a link on her social media to news Merseyside Police had confirmed a third child had died following the attack and wrote tear emoticons beside it.

Earlier she posted a photo of a black ribbon on her Facebook alongside Alice's name after writing in an emotional tribute: 'Princess Alice. In this moment of great pain my soul hurts, my body hurts, my mind hurts. I have a lump in my throat.

'You were just an innocent child, a happy smiley girl with a bright life ahead of you which a despicable human being took away from you, without pity, for no reason.

'Look after your mum and dad who are suffering, who are desolate and broken. Fly high our little star. I love you.'

Friend Claudia Trindade responded by saying: 'Have strength. Let my dear God console the hearts of her parents.'

Magda Fernandes said: 'I have no words. My condolences to the whole family. Lots of strength at this difficult hour.'

Liliana Soares wrote: 'What a huge tragedy. My pretty and innocent angel. Such tremendous pain. My sincerest condolences Carina to the whole family.'

Another family friend, Henrique Drummond, wrote on social media in a direct message to Alice's parents: 'David Aguiar, Alexandra Aguiar. Life is so cruel that an animal takes the life of children, especially our Alice. Lots of strength in these extremely difficult moments.'

A nine-year-old girl has become the third child to die after the Southport stabbing attack at a Taylor Swift-themed holiday dance class.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/13/87941481-13688369-image-a-47_1722343585077.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/13/87941113-13688369-image-a-35_1722342986626.jpg

…I’m going to bring this onto this page so that it doesn’t risk getting overlooked…

[bots]

murdering innocent little girls is the height of evil and depravity, i don't have any other words. The person who did this must never, ever, see the light of day again

[Nicky91]

who would do something like this?


regardless of ethnicity, you're a real sicko if you can murder such sweet innocent children in such a brutal way


:(

[Zizu]

murdering innocent little girls is the height of evil and depravity, i don't have any other words. The person who did this must never, ever, see the light of day again


.. and that’s being generous.

Sadly this worthless piece of sh1te will cost the taxpayers hundreds of thousands over the coming years


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[Crimson Dynamo]

We get the names of the murdered children

but not the pig that murdered them

[Parmy]

…I’m going to bring this onto this page so that it doesn’t risk getting overlooked…

What on earth do you think of people on here!

Do you see people as heartless monsters or something.


There wasnt nor isnt any need to repost that ammi..we see, we think, and we cry. Some just dont need to post about it.

[Nicky91]

We get the names of the murdered children

but not the pig that murdered them

of course the names of the murdered children can be revealed now, so condolence forums can be opened for people to write some nice things, those who knew the children as well, besides their family and closest friends



the name of the killer needs to remain anonymous until after the trial, as we don't want people to deliver justice themselves, if we reveal his name, his family might be in danger as well


the only justice the families should hope for is a long sentence in prison for the killer of their children, and leave that up to the law and authorities

[Ammi]

…it’s not about ‘need’…that post was about Alice Aguiar completely and only and I wanted Alice to be at the top of this page as opposed to the bottom of a previous page…that’s where I wanted her to be and that where I’ve placed her and the post…

[Nicky91]

people who take matters into their own hands, could also end up arrested and locked up

that is what we should prevent at all times


they let their emotions get the better of them, and when they get information on who the killer is, well there is no stopping those people then


but tbh i get people are angry, i too find this killer an absolute monster, a psychopath but we aren't the law unfortunately, so we have to wait for the trial

[thesheriff443]

We get the names of the murdered children

but not the pig that murdered them

Make a name up if your that bloody desperate

[Crimson Dynamo]

make a name up if your that bloody desperate

once again you are fighting battles on here that only exist in your mind alone

[thesheriff443]

once again you are fighting battles on here that only exist in your mind alone

What ever
Do some thing useful and see if a go fund me has been set up

[AnnieK]

There is a Just Giving page set up by Taylor Swift fans that has raised over £124,000 in 24 hours

https://www.justgiving.com/page/swifties-for-southport

[Alf]

It’s at a very early stage trying to gather evidence
We don’t need trial by social media
We don’t need dick heads talking bollox to promote there own agendaWhy don't we need that?

[Cherie]

First named child victim, nine, of Southport stabbing attack is Portuguese girl whose parents are 'desolate and broken' by her murder - as tributes pour in for the 'happy smiley girl with a bright life ahead'…


One of the three children killed in the horror Southport stabbing attack was today named as Alice Aguiar, as her devastated loved ones said their princess had been taken by a 'despicable human being.'

Friends and family paid tribute to the youngster today after it emerged the nine-year-old had died in hospital of her injuries.

The latest tragedy comes a day after a knife rampage that had already left two girls - aged just six and seven - dead.


Five further children aged between six and 11 remain in a critical condition, Merseyside Police confirmed, alongside two female adults who 'bravely tried to protect them'.

A 17-year-old boy remains in custody accused of murder and attempted murder and is being questioned following the incident in Southport, Merseyside, on Monday.

Police say they are not looking for anyone else and do not believe the incident is terrorism related.

Portuguese Foreign Ministry sources confirmed today a Portuguese girl had died.

One said: 'Portugal's Consul General in Manchester is assisting the family, having spoken to her parents, and is continuing to offer them all the support they need.'

Alice's mum Alexandra Aguiar is understood to hail originally from Caracas in Venezuela but lived in Madeira along with Alice's father David, before the pair moved to the UK.

Relative Carina Aguiar, a hotel worker who lives in Camara de Lobos in Madeira, posted a link on her social media to news Merseyside Police had confirmed a third child had died following the attack and wrote tear emoticons beside it.

Earlier she posted a photo of a black ribbon on her Facebook alongside Alice's name after writing in an emotional tribute: 'Princess Alice. In this moment of great pain my soul hurts, my body hurts, my mind hurts. I have a lump in my throat.

'You were just an innocent child, a happy smiley girl with a bright life ahead of you which a despicable human being took away from you, without pity, for no reason.

'Look after your mum and dad who are suffering, who are desolate and broken. Fly high our little star. I love you.'

Friend Claudia Trindade responded by saying: 'Have strength. Let my dear God console the hearts of her parents.'

Magda Fernandes said: 'I have no words. My condolences to the whole family. Lots of strength at this difficult hour.'

Liliana Soares wrote: 'What a huge tragedy. My pretty and innocent angel. Such tremendous pain. My sincerest condolences Carina to the whole family.'

Another family friend, Henrique Drummond, wrote on social media in a direct message to Alice's parents: 'David Aguiar, Alexandra Aguiar. Life is so cruel that an animal takes the life of children, especially our Alice. Lots of strength in these extremely difficult moments.'

A nine-year-old girl has become the third child to die after the Southport stabbing attack at a Taylor Swift-themed holiday dance class.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/13/87941481-13688369-image-a-47_1722343585077.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/30/13/87941113-13688369-image-a-35_1722342986626.jpg

what a beautiful young lady, her parents have made a lovely tribute to their Princess, no words really

I think its quite fitting that we dont know his name, only their names need to be remembered

[Zizu]

Learning more and more about the innocent innocents ..

Makes me more adamant that we need to reintroduce corporal punishment asap


I don’t know why he wasn’t simply shot dead at the scene tbh


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[AnnieK]

what a beautiful young lady, her parents have made a lovely tribute to their Princess, no words really

I think its quite fitting that we dont know his name, only their names need to be remembered

You are right Cherie......THEIR names should be on everyone's mind. He should not have any notoriety

[thesheriff443]

There is a Just Giving page set up by Taylor Swift fans that has raised over £124,000 in 24 hours

https://www.justgiving.com/page/swifties-for-southport

Thanks

[Glenn.]

LT is just desperate to know if he’s brown.


I’ve never understood the need to name monsters like this. The victims are the ones that need to be remembered.

[thesheriff443]

Why don't we need that?

Because you like others don’t give a fcuk about those involved
It’s just another thread you and others can post in for a few days to get you own agendas across

[Ammi]

…the Portuguese government were the ones to release Alice’s name first so I assume the other two names will be known quite soon, also…

[Alf]

Because you like others don’t give a fcuk about those involved
It’s just another thread you and others can post in for a few days to get you own agendas acrossSheriff does care, because Sheriff good.

Everyone else don't care, because they bad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Breaking: Merseyside Police have now released the names of the 3 murdered children in yesterdays Terror attack