Female Olympic Boxer Hit by "Man" Gets Nose Smashed

[Black Dagger]

I do everyday! You should see it, it’s ****ing sexy.

I’ll take your radio silence on the straights DEFENDING a woman beater as a one nil to me.

But it was like ages ago and this boxing match was like yesterday so we can’t be bothered about something that happened ages ago.

[Livia]

None of the other “gays” in this thread have posted anything to suggest they hate women either so I’d try and run a different angle for a change

Glenn and Liam pop up in every trans debate to exhibit their misogyny. That is my take, you don't have to agree.

[Livia]

I do everyday! You should see it, it’s ****ing sexy.

I’ll take your radio silence on the straights DEFENDING a woman beater as a one nil to me.

Hey, you're so desperate to score a meaningless point, you take it.

[Alf]

Another bloke boxing a woman tomorrow.


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[Liam-]

Paula Radcliffe has condemned the idea of trans women competing in women’s sports because it’s not fair or safe, but she’s openly supported that Dutch child rapist being welcomed back into the olympics because he’s done his time and is probably very sorry, the same with some of the weirdos on gbnews, these are the types of freaks that are so unhappy that a stronger than average woman is allowed to compete with her own sex, it’s ****ing nuts

[rusticgal]

You really are just tediously insulting and predictable


Unlike Liam and Glenn....:laugh:

[Beso]

None of the other “gays” in this thread have posted anything to suggest they hate women either so I’d try and run a different angle for a change

They, like you, think they should all feel the same way you do about female issues.

[Glenn.]

Hey, you're so desperate to score a meaningless point, you take it.

Well as I had no response from you after so arrogantly claiming I had made it all up I just wondered where your response to it was that’s all. LT doesn’t like it when he gets clocked either. He does what you do and just ignores it. Laughable really.

[Livia]

Italian cry baby shouldn’t do boxing if she doesn’t want to get hit in the face.

Yeah, your well thought out and reasoned argument clearly shows your support of women's sport.

[Livia]

Well as I had no response from you after so arrogantly claiming I had made it all up I just wondered where your response to it was that’s all. LT doesn’t like it when he gets clocked either. He does what you do and just ignores it. Laughable really.

Blah blah...

[Livia]

Paula Radcliffe has condemned the idea of trans women competing in women’s sports because it’s not fair or safe, but she’s openly supported that Dutch child rapist being welcomed back into the olympics because he’s done his time and is probably very sorry, the same with some of the weirdos on gbnews, these are the types of freaks that are so unhappy that a stronger than average woman is allowed to compete with her own sex, it’s ****ing nuts

What about what about what about

[rusticgal]

Another bloke boxing a woman tomorrow.


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They must feel so proud of their achievements....

[Beso]

I do everyday! You should see it, it’s ****ing sexy.

I’ll take your radio silence on the straights DEFENDING a woman beater as a one nil to me.

You need to delete my quote and apologise.

[Black Dagger]

Yeah, your well thought out and reasoned argument clearly shows your support of women's sport.

If she doesn’t want to get in the face then she shouldn’t box. Just like I’m not going to try and do the Tour de France because I can’t ride a bike.

[Black Dagger]

What about what about what about

Child rape is a what about what about now is it? Is that the hill you want to die on?

[Livia]

They must feel so proud of their achievements....

Yes, although not in the men's category where they would be destroyed. I like Ben's idea of giving them a separate category.

[Livia]

Child rape is a what about what about now is it? Is that the hill you want to die on?

This is about a biological man battering a biological woman in a boxing ring. You want to talk about the Dutch rapist, there's a separate thread.

[Liam-]

If she doesn’t want to get in the face then she shouldn’t box. Just like I’m not going to try and do the Tour de France because I can’t ride a bike.

‘I’ve never been hit so hard!!’ It’s olympics level boxing, of course you haven’t, it’s pathetic

[Beso]

Paula Radcliffe has condemned the idea of trans women competing in women’s sports because it’s not fair or safe, but she’s openly supported that Dutch child rapist being welcomed back into the olympics because he’s done his time and is probably very sorry, the same with some of the weirdos on gbnews, these are the types of freaks that are so unhappy that a stronger than average woman is allowed to compete with her own sex, it’s ****ing nuts

You should be happy shes backing lgbtqplus.

[Livia]

If she doesn’t want to get in the face then she shouldn’t box. Just like I’m not going to try and do the Tour de France because I can’t ride a bike.

She has taken it in the face from women boxers... You disrespect of this woman speaks volumes.

[Livia]

‘I’ve never been hit so hard!!’ It’s olympics level boxing, of course you haven’t, it’s pathetic

Disrespect.

[Black Dagger]

She has taken it in the face from women boxers... You disrespect of this woman speaks volumes.

And took one yesterday as well

[Livia]

Here you go :thumbs:

Oh THIS is your "evidence"? LOL... yes, this is exactly the same thing.

[Livia]

And took one yesterday as well

Yes, from a biological man. Does that make you feel good? Seems like it does.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again. Not a man


It's a very complicated one because of various laws and quirks here though. This is someone who was born with ambiguous genitalia and incorrectly assigned female at birth (we don't like that, right?) in a country where being trans is not legal. They then went on to go through male puberty, and it has transpired that they are hormonally and biologically male. But their country doesn't allow that so their legal documentation will always state that they were born female.

There's an element of "having your cake and eating it too" here I suspect. You're arguing that this individual who was born with ambiguous genitalia but later clearly started to present physically as male and this has been confirmed chromosomally, is still female because that's what they were assigned in the hospital at birth, and this can't legally be changed. At the same time, it's argued that gender has nothing to do with sex assigned at birth. You have to pick? Which is it?



I see in the race to the bottom this did not get replied to? :think:

[Glenn.]

Blah blah...

Never comment on my quality of posts again :joker:

Jesus Christ you’re an embarrassment. Says a lot about someone when they refuse to admit they’re wrong.

[Liam-]

‘We only want biological women to compete with women!!’
‘No, only certain biological women that we deem acceptable to our standards of what women are, get out of her woman!!’

[Beso]

Never comment on my quality of posts again :joker:

Jesus Christ you’re an embarrassment. Says a lot about someone when they refuse to admit they’re wrong.

Quality post..

Lol, you just copied one of your stock files you post from here onto discord..no effort went into it at all.:nono:

[Livia]

Never comment on my quality of posts again :joker:

Jesus Christ you’re an embarrassment. Says a lot about someone when they refuse to admit they’re wrong.

I am not wrong. You're trying to force me to compare two completely different things.

There is not, and there never had been, quality in your posts.

[Glenn.]

I see in the race to the bottom this did not get replied to? :think:

Well she was assigned female and raised as a female. Can’t anyone read on this site?

[Glenn.]

I am not wrong. You're trying to force me to compare two completely different things.

There is not, and there never had been, quality in your posts.

Imagine embarrassing yourself like this for all to see.

[rusticgal]

Yes, from a biological man. Does that make you feel good? Seems like it does.


...that went through male puberty. When they pick up that medal they will be overwhelmed with the achievement of beating the system but little else.

[Glenn.]

Quality post..

Lol, you just copied one of your stock files you post from here onto discord..no effort went into it at all.:nono:

You’re obsessed with discord :joker:

[Livia]

Well she was assigned female and raised as a female. Can’t anyone read on this site?

And she has the Y chromosome. Google it. See what it means.

[Glenn.]

...that went through male puberty. When they pick up that medal they will be overwhelmed with the achievement of beating the system but little else.

She is female

[Livia]

...that went through male puberty. When they pick up that medal they will be overwhelmed with the achievement of beating the system but little else.

Exactly.

[Livia]

She is female

She identifies and was raised female. Biologically, she is male.

[Glenn.]

And she has the Y chromosome. Google it. See what it means.

Women can have the Y chromosome. If you wasn’t so busy being arrogant and condescending towards everyone you would have read that yesterday.

[Livia]

Imagine embarrassing yourself like this for all to see.

I am not embarrassed. Do you want me to feel embarrassed? Does that work for you, a woman being embarrassed?

[Livia]

Women can have the Y chromosome. If you wasn’t so busy being arrogant and condescending towards everyone you would have read that yesterday.

Nope. She failed a gender test. FAILED.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The official at the centre of the Olympic boxing gender row was one of Sir Keir Starmer’s best men at his wedding.

[Glenn.]

I am not embarrassed. Do you want me to feel embarrassed? Does that work for you, a woman being embarrassed?

God you’re unbelievably dramatic :joker:

[Quantum Boy]

Well she was assigned female and raised as a female. Can’t anyone read on this site?

You don't think the legal and cultural components of the country she's from are in any way relevant or important here? She was assigned female and thus raised female because once assigned female, there was no option but to do so. Like I said the waters have been badly muddied for actual intersex individuals - which is an extremely rare condition - by the insistence that it's in some way related to transgenderism (which it isn't).

In short this is a rare case where someone has indeed been born female and raised female but is in fact biologically male and thus has the sporting advantages that come with male puberty. Biologically female people can gain those advantages, with combinations of drugs and hormones - but this would not be allowed in almost all sports.

So the question has nothing to do with the usual trans debate and is a totally separate one surrounding what might or might not be considered an unfair competitive advantage for people who are genuinely intersex, a totally valid and probably important discussion, but totally lost in base gender politics.

[Glenn.]

Nope. She failed a gender test. FAILED.

Failed a testosterone test. Again a lot of this embarrassment would have been saved if you had actually looked into it instead of going in all guns blazing with the GAYS HATE THE WOMEN ****

She failed a testosterone test as she has higher levels of testosterone than the average woman.

No evidence that she failed a gender test. No proof. Nada

[Beso]

Failed a testosterone test. Again a lot of this embarrassment would have been saved if you had actually looked into it instead of going in all guns blazing with the GAYS HATE THE WOMEN ****

She failed a testosterone test as she has higher levels of testosterone than the average woman.

No evidence that she failed a gender test. No proof. Nada


His inverted penis is proof enough( we shall call it, his Glenn) from now on.

[Glenn.]

His inverted penis is proof enough( we shall call it, his Glenn) from now on.

Why would it be called Glenn?

[Glenn.]

How do you even know she has an inverted penis?

[Ammi]

You don't think the legal and cultural components of the country she's from are in any way relevant or important here? She was assigned female and thus raised female because once assigned female, there was no option but to do so. Like I said the waters have been badly muddied for actual intersex individuals - which is an extremely rare condition - by the insistence that it's in some way related to transgenderism (which it isn't).

In short this is a rare case where someone has indeed been born female and raised female but is in fact biologically male and thus has the sporting advantages that come with male puberty. Biologically female people can gain those advantages, with combinations of drugs and hormones - but this would not be allowed in almost all sports.

So the question has nothing to do with the usual trans debate and is a totally separate one surrounding what might or might not be considered an unfair competitive advantage for people who are genuinely intersex, a totally valid and probably important discussion, but totally lost in base gender politics.


…yeah, bib is what I feel as well, that the relevant factor and focus is…is she an ‘advantaged athlete’…and atm, I’m not really sure of that because of her fight completion losses as well as yesterday’s ’controversial win’…

..some intersex people do have ovaries, a uterus, and a vagina, and can get pregnant…it’s very individual to the person, so I wouldn’t say or assume her to be biologically male…

[Glenn.]

All anyone knows about her is that she has higher testosterone levels than most women. The rest is the bigots running away with sick minds and tongues.

[Beso]

Why would it be called Glenn?

Because the word Glenn remindes me off an inverted micro penis..similar to the word chode. People use that word to describe a chubby little penis.

Anything else I can help you with before you apologise for fefaming my character by false misrepresenting my posts?

[Beso]

How do you even know she has an inverted penis?

Because I do....dont you know that?

[Glenn.]

Because the word Glenn remindes me off an inverted micro penis..similar to the word chode. People use that word to describe a chubby little penis.

Anything else I can help you with before you apologise for fefaming my character by false misrepresenting my posts?

Aww you named your dick after me? That’s flattering. Thank you

[Beso]

Aww you named your dick after me? That’s flattering. Thank you

I did, but I hope you dont mind me using the shortened version, chode instead of the full name.

[Glenn.]

Because I do....dont you know that?

You don’t then? Just being an ignorant pig as per

[Glenn.]

I did, but I hope you dont mind me using the shortened version, chode instead of the full name.

No man you crack on. I’m just sad no one really gets to see it.

[Ninastar]

I’m gonna name one of my dildos Parmesan

[Glenn.]

I’m gonna name one of my dildos Parmesan

Is it a little dinky pocket one?

[Beso]

I’m gonna name one of my dildos Parmesan

It will be your go to one.

[Quantum Boy]

Well this thread took an unusual turn.

The Parmy-san. It's a Japanese import. All sorts of functions.

[Beso]

I’m gonna name one of my dildos Parmesan

You calling yourself neem or ninestar when its sliding in and out

[Nicky91]

Imane Khelif is a biologically born woman


she is BORN a WOMAN



same as Maartje Paumen, our former hockey player whom also has more muscle, masculinity than other women, same as Martina Navratilova, same as Megan Rapinoe in the US women's soccer team, same as Sherida Spitse in our dutch women's soccer team



but yeah go off ignore me and my common sense, continue cyberbullying this poor woman :rolleyes:

[Ninastar]

Is it a little dinky pocket one?

Maybe that’s what I’ll name it when I have one

[Beso]

Get 2, I'm sure theres room.

[Ninastar]

You calling yourself neem or ninestar when its sliding in and out

Colin

[Crimson Dynamo]

I’m gonna name one of my dildos Parmesan

As i recall your other one is called The purple-headed womb ferret?

[Quantum Boy]

Imane Khelif is a biologically born woman


she is BORN a WOMAN


Assigned female at birth :nono: don't be so transphobic Nicky.

[Ninastar]

I have so many regerts

[Quantum Boy]

As i recall your other one is called The purple-headed womb ferret?

I looked up the Leather Trumpet thinking it would likely be a natural lambskin sort of thing, but it's a massive patent-leather buttplug?? "Caution: Only suitable for massive arseholes" it says in the description.

Wow.

[Nicky91]

Assigned female at birth :nono: don't be so transphobic Nicky.

i am not transphobic (at all) :shrug: i am very pro-LGBTQ+ as a matter of fact, very pro-inclusivity


and i don't need to be one in this case, as SHE ISN'T TRANS. how many times do i still need to repeat this, giving me some headaches now :(

[Ninastar]

Please leave my arsehole alone

[Beso]

I looked up the Leather Trumpet thinking it would likely be a natural lambskin sort of thing, but it's a massive patent-leather buttplug?? "Caution: Only suitable for massive arseholes" it says in the description.

Wow.

:joker:

It's also a nickname for fisting someone with a black leather glove until they start tooting like a trumpet.

[Quantum Boy]

i am not transphobic (at all) :shrug: i am very pro-LGBTQ+ as a matter of fact, very pro-inclusivity


and i don't need to be one in this case, as SHE ISN'T TRANS. how many times do i still need to repeat this, giving me some headaches now :(

If you were pro-trans you wouldn't say that anyone was born anything, you'd say that they were assigned a gender at birth that may or may not fit their internal sense of self, which they can choose later once they've fully grasped the complexities of gender identity. Obviously.

To say she was born female is very transphobic :nono:.

[Quantum Boy]

Please leave my arsehole alone

Aw he's been the whole forum's arsehole for nearly 15 years, you can't lay claim like that.

[Quantum Boy]

:joker:

It's also a nickname for fisting someone with a black leather glove until they start tooting like a trumpet.

:joker: christ

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicky can you just let trans people exist!



:nono:

[Ninastar]

Nicki I am not mad, just disappointed

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imane Khelif, the boxer who failed a gender test and made a female Italian boxer quit
after punching her in the face is set to face Hungarian female boxer Hamori Luca.


Luca says she is not running from the fight and "If God helps me, I'll beat him!"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-hgcsXgAATo5h?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-f186WoAA1a2j?format=jpg&name=small

[Glenn.]

Let’s hope she’s up to it. The other clearly wasn’t.

[hijaxers]

Imane Khelif, the boxer who failed a gender test and made a female Italian boxer quit
after punching her in the face is set to face Hungarian female boxer Hamori Luca.


Luca says she is not running from the fight and "If God helps me, I'll beat him!"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-hgcsXgAATo5h?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-f186WoAA1a2j?format=jpg&name=small

' I'll beat Him'

[Nicky91]

' I'll beat Him'

yes, said by one hungarian brainwashed by their racist, sexist, homophobic nutcase of a president viktor orban, more than likely

:idc:

[Benjamin]

i am not transphobic (at all) :shrug: i am very pro-LGBTQ+ as a matter of fact, very pro-inclusivity


and i don't need to be one in this case, as SHE ISN'T TRANS. how many times do i still need to repeat this, giving me some headaches now :(

Ignore them. You’re not being transphobic.

[Quantum Boy]

Ignore them. You’re not being transphobic.

Today. You have to be careful with Nicky, he'll legit do a mid-air 180 and jumpscare you tomorrow :umm2:.

[Beso]

Hes plenty other things a lot worse than being transphobic.

[Nicky91]

AnnieK

this thread needs some serious moderating work done, pretty please

[Quantum Boy]

AnnieK

this thread needs some serious moderating work done, pretty please

Poor Annie, she's in for an adventure with this one :joker:

[rusticgal]

You don't think the legal and cultural components of the country she's from are in any way relevant or important here?


Thats a tricky one for Glenn...

[Zizu]

' I'll beat Him'


I can see one huge flaw in her reckoning


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Zachary Elliott
@zaelefty

Piers, I appreciate you covering this issue, but you got some important
specifics wrong.

46:XY Swyer Syndrome involves NO DIFFERENTIATED GONADS. There are no
testes, no ovaries. This means very, very low androgen levels. No male
puberty occurs. No performance advantage conferred.

The fetus develops down the Mullerian path in the absence of the gonad, so
they develop a uterus, cervix, vagina, etc.

Two separate eligibility tests were failed: he has XY + male level T + T
reception. This means he almost certainly has TESTES. The boxer clearly
does not have Swyer Syndrome.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-wT1nXQAAkdbX?format=jpg&name=900x900


https://x.com/zaelefty/status/1819366756634509427

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is Taiwanese ‘women’s’ boxer Lin Yu-Ting who just beat Uzbekistans female
boxer Sitora Turdibekova.

In 2023, Yu-Ting was barred from competing in the women’s boxing World
Championships after failing a gender eligibility test and being found to have
male XY chromosomes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT_L4MTXMAAp1s0?format=jpg&name=small

[Nicky91]

Zachary Elliott
@zaelefty

Piers, I appreciate you covering this issue, but you got some important
specifics wrong.

46:XY Swyer Syndrome involves NO DIFFERENTIATED GONADS. There are no
testes, no ovaries. This means very, very low androgen levels. No male
puberty occurs. No performance advantage conferred.

The fetus develops down the Mullerian path in the absence of the gonad, so
they develop a uterus, cervix, vagina, etc.

Two separate eligibility tests were failed: he has XY + male level T + T
reception. This means he almost certainly has TESTES. The boxer clearly
does not have Swyer Syndrome.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-wT1nXQAAkdbX?format=jpg&name=900x900


https://x.com/zaelefty/status/1819366756634509427

she, not he


for the last time, Imane Khelif is BORN A WOMAN

[Crimson Dynamo]

Left is Swyer Syndrome.

Right is 5-ARD, which is likely that the boxer has this or something similar.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-ww_4W0AA4BZA?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-ww_0W0AASImj?format=jpg&name=small

[Glenn.]

I’d say it was the left one as she was born a female.

[Livia]

She was designated a female.

[Glenn.]

Thats a tricky one for Glenn...

What?

[Ammi]

..Lord, can you imagine…this poor woman has to have her genitalia discussed in detail on the internet…/…a public vote as to whether she’s a woman or not…jeez…

[AnnieK]

Poor Annie, she's in for an adventure with this one :joker:

I actually have no idea where to bloody start with this.

I might close it for cleaning and ban you all :laugh:

There are a lot of insults, baiting and just plain nastiness.....

Can't you all play nice on a Friday?

I've just finished work and going for dinner so will look at this later....PLEASE KEEP ON TOPIC AND NO PERSONAL INSULTS OR COMMENTS

[Glenn.]

..Lord, can you imagine…this poor woman has to have her genitalia discussed in detail on the internet…/…a public vote as to whether she’s a woman or not…jeez…

People are ****ing hideous

[Nicky91]

Left is Swyer Syndrome.

Right is 5-ARD, which is likely that the boxer has this or something similar.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-ww_4W0AA4BZA?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT-ww_0W0AASImj?format=jpg&name=small

she has the left one definitely



can you just shut up already :mad:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I’d say it was the left one as she was born a female.

Unfortunately, Zachary Elliott says you are incorrect and he has a tiny bit more education and reputation than you in this field.

But thanks for playing!

[Glenn.]

Unfortunately, Zachary Elliott says you are incorrect and he has a tiny bit more education and reputation than you in this field.

But thanks for playing!

Did he conduct the tests himself then. Was he there? There’s no test results after all.

[Nicky91]

Unfortunately, Zachary Elliott says you are incorrect and he has a tiny bit more education and reputation than you in this field.

But thanks for playing!

Zachary Idiot is someone who i don't know who that even is LOL


his education as tiny as his own penis maybe :fan:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Zachary Idiot is someone who i don't know who that even is LOL


his education as tiny as his own penis maybe :fan:

thankfully your Mum is about to pull the plug on your internet

And for good reason

[Nicky91]

ah

new page

new reminder


Imane Khelif is a biologically born woman



i am thankful i ain't a sheepie in cyberbullying that sweet lady :flutter:

[GiRTh]

If this was a professional tournament I'd have no issues but for amateurs to have such an opponent they have to fight is not fair.

Firstly, anyone who gets into the ring knows exactly the danger's. They know they're gonna get hurt thus why I have fewer issues if this was in the pros. In the amateurs you cannot pick and choose your fights. You have to fight pretty much anyone put in front and that IMO is why this is not fair. Someone is going to get quite seriously hurt and I'd like to know if there is any legal avenues in the amateur's for the fghters

I also dont think much to the fighter. She knows she has an advantage does she not have a conscience about her clear physical advantage. IF not then turn pro and we'll see how far she gets. The fact she's lost over half a dozen times tells me she doesnt have much skill. All she has is the fact she is bigger, stronger and more powerful than every opponent. This is a sickening spectacle.

[Livia]

I fear this will continue until someone dies. And maybe even then...

[Vanessa]

I have no idea if she's female or not.
But surely it wasn't a fair fight?
The Italian boxer looked really upset.

[Glenn.]

She quit then blamed the other boxer for her quitting because she was stronger than her.

[GiRTh]

She quit then blamed the other boxer for her quitting because she was stronger than her.Wise decision. She might have got seriously hurt.

[Vanessa]

Wise decision. She might have got seriously hurt.

Exactly. They didn't seem matched weight wise?

[Crimson Dynamo]

If this was a professional tournament I'd have no issues but for amateurs to have such an opponent they have to fight is not fair.

Firstly, anyone who gets into the ring knows exactly the danger's. They know they're gonna get hurt thus why I have fewer issues if this was in the pros. In the amateurs you cannot pick and choose your fights. You have to fight pretty much anyone put in front and that IMO is why this is not fair. Someone is going to get quite seriously hurt and I'd like to know if there is any legal avenues in the amateur's for the fghters

I also dont think much to the fighter. She knows she has an advantage does she not have a conscience about her clear physical advantage. IF not then turn pro and we'll see how far she gets. The fact she's lost over half a dozen times tells me she doesnt have much skill. All she has is the fact she is bigger, stronger and more powerful than every opponent. This is a sickening spectacle.

Good points

[GiRTh]

The brutality of the sport is one of its great draws, for me as a fan of all fighting disciplines. I dont want to see this though. I dont want to see, in the amateurs, a woman fight someone who, for all intents and purposes, is basically a man without a penis. That is not what amateur sport is about IMO.

If she wants to turn pro, where the opponents receive more funding, are better trained and get paid to fight etc then Id have fewer issues but this is not what amateur fighting is about IMO.

I wish Miss Khalif well but hope she find a more suitable level to fight

[Liam-]

Wise decision. She might have got seriously hurt.

The risk you take when stepping in the boxing ring with someone stronger than you

[GiRTh]

The risk you take when stepping in the boxing ring with someone stronger than youExactly. So we agree.

[GiRTh]

Do we think is OK at all levels of the sport. What is if was under 15 fighting an adult. Would we be OK with that?

[Liam-]

Yes, nobody should get in the ring if they’re scared of being punched too hard

[Crimson Dynamo]

Has a single pro-boxer of note come out in support of this bonkers decision

or is it just glen and liam?

[GiRTh]

Yes, nobody should get in the ring if they’re scared of being punched too hardEven if they are not getting paid?

Trust me, they know the risk but Heavyweights dont spar with lightweights. Unless the lightweight is an outstanding fighter, of course, and the heavyweight aint so good.

Let me put it this way, if I saw a mismatch in a gym then it'd be the last time I went to that gym and I'd probably report it to everyone I know

[Jordan.]

Has a single pro-boxer of note come out in support of this bonkers decision

or is it just glen and liam?

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(In before you act like a world champion who actually fought her isn't of note)

[Glenn.]

LTs just clocking himself now :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So one woman boxer who beat this person :rolleyes:(who as Girth has stated) isn't very good just a big bloke in the wrong sex division)

I was kind of hoping for a bit better

:laugh:

[GiRTh]

She's 25 and still an amateur. ITs like an adult taking on children. She needs to turn pro but then she might find it a bit too difficult. Likes I say, a sickening spectacle.

[GiRTh]

So one woman boxer who beat this person :rolleyes:(who as Girth has stated) isn't very good just a big bloke in the wrong sex division)

I was kind of hoping for a bit better

:laugh:Agreeing with LT.

With her advantage she cant be taken seriously if she's losing to weaker women. With her advantage she should be smashing all her opponents.

If it was a 25 year old tennis players, theyd be smashing all the weaker women cuz they're just stronger, fitter etc

[Glenn.]

So one woman boxer who beat this person :rolleyes:(who as Girth has stated) isn't very good just a big bloke in the wrong sex division)

I was kind of hoping for a bit better

:laugh:

:joker: :joker:

[Liam-]

‘With her advantage she should be smashing all her opponents’

And she isn’t doing that as her record shows, so the issue is that she was just better than this women she beat yesterday

[Glenn.]

‘With her advantage she should be smashing all her opponents’

And she isn’t doing that as her record shows, so the issue is that she was just better than this women she beat yesterday

/thread

[GiRTh]

‘With her advantage she should be smashing all her opponents’

And she isn’t doing that as her record shows, so the issue is that she was just better than this women she beat yesterdayExactly, she's not very good and at 25 she should have turned pro by now. She doesn't come across well to be beating up people who are smaller and weaker and, she knows they're smaller and weaker.

[Beso]

He has an inverted micro penis, of course his confidence is always going to be low enough to let a talented female boxer beat his scrawny ass.

He should have tried sumo wrestler to get a step ahead of the suck your balls up inside you lessons.

[Glenn.]

He has an inverted micro penis, of course his confidence is always going to be low enough to let a talented female boxer beat his scrawny ass.

He should have tried sumo wrestler to get a step ahead of the suck your balls up inside you lessons.

Again, you have no idea what she’s got in her knickers. Stop being hateful.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again, you have no idea what she’s got in her knickers. Stop being hateful.

and you do?

that is weird

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[GiRTh]

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What if someone like Anthony Joshua - Whos a bit of physical specimen anyway - was born a woman. It frightening what he could have done at amateur level. Sickening if your really start to think about it. I cant see how so many are OK with a fighter who is stronger and quicker than all opponents.

[Livia]

Interesting posts, Girth, good to read stuff from someone who obviously knows a bit about boxing.

[GiRTh]

I dunno any more than anyone else about anything. I've seen a few friends get hurt in amateur sports though, and its not what anyone wants to see happen

[Glenn.]

and you do?

that is weird

Where did I say I did?

[Glenn.]

Ooop got him again, he’s gone quiet

[Zizu]

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[Glenn.]

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Well we'll see won’t we.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Where did I say I did?

She is female


And i hope its not some rural "GP" from Algeria you will be quoting for evidence.?

:joker:

[Glenn.]

I haven’t mentioned her genitals in this thread, it’s only the weirdos that have. Good try though :thumbs:

[Glenn.]

Also like how I’m the weirdo for talking about her genitals but parm going into such crude weird detail is skipped over.

Actual weirdos the lot of you

[Crimson Dynamo]

The whole boxing community in one corner

Liam and glen in another


ding ding

:laugh2:

[Glenn.]

Oop diversion tactic. So predictable

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oop diversion tactic.

dont use it then

[Beso]

Again, you have no idea what she’s got in her knickers. Stop being hateful.

I'm posting my thoughts for people to read on a forum, from my phone. I just press post when I'm done. How is that hateful?

[GoldHeart]

Either way it seems she had a slightly unfair advantage, maybe with her strength they should have had a separate category for trans athletes, I know she isn't trans ...but maybe that would have been the best option. Obviously she doesn't want to compete with men...as she's a woman.

[Beso]

Also like how I’m the weirdo for talking about her genitals but parm going into such crude weird detail is skipped over.

Actual weirdos the lot of you

The bar was set regarding acceptability by neem a few weeks ago.

I'm just trying to fit in. I'm really shy in real life

[Beso]

Anyway..the stories not really about the person. It's about the rule makers.

If she wins she wins, but I will always think it was a man smashing up a women in 2024 Olympics

[Glenn.]

Anyway..the stories not really about the person. It's about the rule makers.

If she wins she wins, but I will always think it was a man smashing up a women in 2024 Olympics

It wasn’t a man though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It wasn’t a man though.

still has not got a clue what this is about

:joker:

[Glenn.]

dont use it then

I didn’t? :joker:

Posting nonsense

[GoldHeart]

It wasn’t a man though.

Maybe not ,but she still had an unfair advantage no ? .:shrug:

[Glenn.]

still has not got a clue what this is about

:joker:

I’m one of a few that actually do get it. Stay hating on women that don’t fit your toxic conformity.

The woman was beaten because she wasn’t up to the standard her opponent was, then cried and blamed her opponent. Awful sportsmanship.

[Glenn.]

Maybe not ,but she still had an unfair advantage no ? .:shrug:

Given that we’ve learnt that she’s had many fights against other women and lost, no.

[Barry.]

This thread is a sh*tshow

[GoldHeart]

Given that we’ve learnt that she’s had many fights against other women and lost, no.

I wonder what the weight class was for all the other female boxers she lost to .

[Beso]

I wonder what the weight class was for all the other female boxers she lost to .



Big hev size and oi, wats accuring"s mentality.

[Glenn.]

Italian boxer Angela Carini, who abandoned her Olympic bout against Algeria's Imane Khelif inside 46 seconds, says she "wants to apologise" to her opponent for how she handled the moments after the fight.
Khelif is one of two athletes who have been cleared to compete in the women's boxing in Paris, despite having been disqualified from last year's Women's World Championships for failing to meet eligibility criteria.
The 25-year-old's participation in the Games has proved controversial, leading the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to defend her right to compete.
"All this controversy makes me sad," Carini told Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport.
"I'm sorry for my opponent, too. If the IOC said she can fight, I respect that decision."
Carini, also 25, said abandoning the fight had been a mature step to take, but she expressed regret at not shaking hands with Khelif afterwards.
"It wasn't something I intended to do," Carini said. "Actually, I want to apologise to her and everyone else. I was angry because my Olympics had gone up in smoke."
She added that if she met Khelif again, she would "embrace her".

After taking a punch to the face inside 30 seconds during Thursday's fight, Carini went to the corner for her coach to fix her headgear. After briefly resuming, she returned to her corner once more and stopped the fight.
Carini later told BBC Sport: "It could have been the match of a lifetime, but I had to preserve my life as well in that moment."
The Russia-led International Boxing Association (IBA), which carried out the tests last year, said Khelif "failed to meet the eligibility criteria for participating in the women's competition, as set and laid out in the IBA regulations".
Khelif has always competed in the women's division and is recognised by the IOC as a female athlete.
"The Algerian boxer was born female, was registered female, lived her life as a female, boxed as a female, has a female passport," IOC spokesperson Mark Adams said on Friday.
Later on Friday, the IBA president Umar Kremlev said his organisation would offer Carini $100,000 (£78,000) - which is the prize money it is offering gold medallists at the Games. That money would be split with half going to the boxer, a quarter to her trainer and a quarter to her federation.

[Beso]

Why have you highlighted her and she? She ain't exactly going to say he and him when shes apologising for her reaction to the fight.

[Glenn.]

Just so the idiots in here can see that the woman they’re feigning outrage for also says she’s a woman who’s lacklustre apology comes too late.

[Maru]

Women have to be more secure in themselves than not to survive in this world now. The people making these decisions are not the average person and won't face the same negative consequences, so they will keep pushing the line as long as it can go until they are directly impacted. It's a powertrip. There are just too many now who will still get off on the fact we watch in shock and awe. It's become part of the entertainment factor of "transforming" these sports.

I feel saddest for the younger women who worked their asses off to make it this far, only to find the world is now working against their favor because people like to score political points.

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[Mystic Mock]

Let’s make a separate category for basketball for all the players taller than everyone else because they have a natural, built in ‘advantage’

Basketball isn't a combat Sport.

Someone with higher testosterone levels will have an advantage in a combat Sport, that's just the truth.

I don't agree with the abuse that she's getting on the Internet as it isn't her fault, but she does have an advantage over her fellow competitors in the Welterweight division.

And I do acknowledge that she has lost fights tbf, it still doesn't change the fact that she has an unfair advantage over her opponents, it just means that the opponents that have beaten her are exceptionally good. Ammi

I will agree with what someone said on Twitter, I can't believe that this topic is getting more discussion than a convicted Paedophile playing at the Olympics.

Because whilst I agree that she shouldn't really be facing off against other women personally, at least she isn't scum of the earth that didn't really face justice.

[Mystic Mock]

Ah, here's soldier boy to show us where we've all gone wrong and tell us what we should really be thinking.

Tbf I think that he has a fair point here.

[Mystic Mock]

Paula Radcliffe has condemned the idea of trans women competing in women’s sports because it’s not fair or safe, but she’s openly supported that Dutch child rapist being welcomed back into the olympics because he’s done his time and is probably very sorry, the same with some of the weirdos on gbnews, these are the types of freaks that are so unhappy that a stronger than average woman is allowed to compete with her own sex, it’s ****ing nuts

I wonder if some of these people would be happy about the Beach Volleyball player playing at the Olympics if he had've molested a 12 year old boy? Because we do know that certain groups do love to insinuate the LGBT community with Paedophilia.

[Mystic Mock]

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How dare you!:fist:

[Nicky91]

Basketball isn't a combat Sport.

Someone with higher testosterone levels will have an advantage in a combat Sport, that's just the truth.

I don't agree with the abuse that she's getting on the Internet as it isn't her fault, but she does have an advantage over her fellow competitors in the Welterweight division.

And I do acknowledge that she has lost fights tbf, it still doesn't change the fact that she has an unfair advantage over her opponents, it just means that the opponents that have beaten her are exceptionally good. Ammi

I will agree with what someone said on Twitter, I can't believe that this topic is getting more discussion than a convicted Paedophile playing at the Olympics.

Because whilst I agree that she shouldn't really be facing off against other women personally, at least she isn't scum of the earth that didn't really face justice.

you can get pretty nastily injured in basketball though, if you get hit in the head by that ball

and yes, are all women basketball players trans then? because they are taller than other women

[Ammi]

…there can be injuries in any sport, Nicky…but in terms of safety/risk assessments etc…combat sport has to be assessed with no ‘advantaged athlete’ taking part against another because it does involve that combat as the sport itself…

[Nicky91]

Imane Khelif is a woman since birth


more than enough evidence is that transitioning is illegal in a country like Algeria


Imane is a woman, it is women's boxing, she is perfectly eligible, and if you face her in a match, then well better come prepared, train harder for that match i'd say



this thread is literally so embarrassing me, i am tempted to leave this forum sadly :(



also i don't care if ur against Imane, but i just have know what is cyberbullying, what is going way too far


SHE ISN'T TRANS, but just has more muscle than other women, and if she truly had advantages, she would've won everything in her career so far, but she hasn't

[Mystic Mock]

…there can be injuries in any sport, Nicky…but in terms of safety/risk assessments etc…combat sport has to be assessed with no ‘advantaged athlete’ taking part against another because it does involve that combat as the sport itself…

Exactly.

[Ammi]

…I’m not against Imane, I completely feel for her that this is happening and there is more than one concern and ‘danger’ here…but this is about an Olympic athlete as a primary/immediate thing while the events are in progress… and about the safety of the fighters in terms of there being no ‘advantaged’ competitor…(…I don’t know if she is advantaged…)…but none of this culture war stuff is helpful to her either….

[Nicky91]

…I’m not against Imane, I completely feel for her that this is happening and there is more than one concern and ‘danger’ here…but this is about an Olympic athlete as a primary thing and about the safety of the fighters in terms of there being no ‘advantaged’ competitor…(…I don’t know if she is advantaged…)…but none of this culture war stuff is helpful to her either….

yes i know, Angela Carini is very much unworthy of this sport :joker:


no place for crybabies in boxing



Luca Hamoni seems slightly better competition, as she also has quite good amount of muscle as far as i can see

[Ammi]

yes i know, Angela Carini is very much unworthy of this sport :joker:


no place for crybabies in boxing



Luca Hamoni seems slightly better competition, as she also has quite good amount of muscle as far as i can see

…but you’re just transferring all of the criticism to another woman and another athlete…she’s very much worthy, she wouldn’t be there if she wasn’t worthy as Imane wouldn’t have been…they were both deemed ‘worthy’ by Olympic officials…Angela Carini had four years of training and a few seconds in the ring…how devastating that was for her and she reacted in those moments…(…which she’s apologised for …)…but it was a moment…she’s not ‘the issue’ …if there is any advantaged athlete then this is something that the officials and sport world have to address …but sadly these things are hijacked by ‘agendas’…and the people who get lost in those agendas…?…they’re always the same people with no exceptions…it’s the women who get lost in it all, including in this situation…Imane and Angela and all other women fighters at the Olympics…

[Nicky91]

…but you’re just transferring all of the criticism to another woman and another athlete…she’s very much worthy, she wouldn’t be there if she wasn’t worthy as Imane wouldn’t have been…they were both deemed ‘worthy’ by Olympic officials…Angela Carini had four years of training and a few seconds in the ring…how devastating that was for her and she reacted in those moments…(…which she’s apologised for …)…but it was a moment…she’s not ‘the issue’ …if there is any advantaged athlete then this is something that the officials and sport world have to address …but sadly these things are hijacked by ‘agendas’…and the people who get lost in those agendas…?…they’re always the same people with no exceptions…it’s the women who get lost in it all, including in this situation…Imane and Angela and all other women fighters at the Olympics…

blah blah blah


and that Giorgia Meloni needs to really shut her gob, she's starting to begin to be the next Viktor Orban, Recep Erdogan absolute embarrassment far right extremist political leader :mad:

[Nicky91]

i don't care if we go to page 100 soon of this thread, i still will keep saying Imane is a biologically born female


may i so hope she wins gold, and i will deffo rise up for the algerian anthem too


may that be a big fat middle finger to her haters

[Mystic Mock]

…I’m not against Imane, I completely feel for her that this is happening and there is more than one concern and ‘danger’ here…but this is about an Olympic athlete as a primary thing and about the safety of the fighters in terms of there being no ‘advantaged’ competitor…(…I don’t know if she is advantaged…)…but none of this culture war stuff is helpful to her either….

The harassment that Imane is getting is wrong, I do agree with you on that.

I feel like we need to be seeing a more calm discussion around trying to solve this particular issue, but it's descended into a tit for tat between the pro and anti-Trans camps against each other.

[Glenn.]

The harassment that Imane is getting is wrong, I do agree with you on that.

I feel like we need to be seeing a more calm discussion around trying to solve this particular issue, but it's descended into a tit for tat between the pro and anti-Trans camps against each other.

And she isn’t even trans

[Mystic Mock]

And she isn’t even trans

Oh I know that.

I'm just saying it's becoming that kind of discussion though, instead of talking about what to do with Intersex athletes.

[Ammi]

And she isn’t even trans

…no she isn’t, Glenn…and that’s one of the huge problems with misinformation because it all then begins to be hijacked by agenda in a culture war situation and Imane has been a victim of that and also of ‘what a woman should look like’…but for me, the is very layered because there are lots of women in the Olympics and in combat sport…so, as a female…?…my concern obviously is also that there are no ‘advantaged athletes’…and I honestly don’t know whether that applies to Imane or not…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imane Khelif

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[Glenn.]

…no she isn’t, Glenn…and that’s one of the huge problems with misinformation because it all then begins to be hijacked by agenda in a culture war situation and Imane has been a victim of that and also of ‘what a woman should look like’…but for me, the is very layered because there are lots of women in the Olympics and in combat sport…so, as a female…?…my concern obviously is also that there are no ‘advantaged athletes’…and I honestly don’t know whether that applies to Imane or not…

You only have to read this thread to see that the whole thing has been hijacked. Members of this forum openly posting transphobic comments and the fact they’re comfortable doing so says an awful lot about the hostile society we live in. How much further will it slip? Only time will tell.

In this case I agree that there maybe should have been more thought given, weight wise? I don’t watch boxing so don’t know the ins and outs.

Angela Carini has apologised and wants to personally apologise to Imane and I think that is the right thing to do. She has caused an unnecessary uproar in an already volatile subject matter. Lots of ignorant, hateful people in the world and on here.

[Glenn.]

Imane Khelif

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See Ammi? Ignorant and hateful. Blasé as **** and he knows he can post it because it goes unpunished.

[Ammi]

You only have to read this thread to see that the whole thing has been hijacked. Members of this forum openly posting transphobic comments and the fact they’re comfortable doing so says an awful lot about the hostile society we live in. How much further will it slip? Only time will tell.

In this case I agree that there maybe should have been more thought given, weight wise? I don’t watch boxing so don’t know the ins and outs.

Angela Carini has apologised and wants to personally apologise to Imane and I think that is the right thing to do. She has caused an unnecessary uproar in an already volatile subject matter. Lots of ignorant, hateful people in the world and on here.

…yeah, Imane is obviously eligible to compete in a female category because she is female…but I think also…(…for me anyway…)…elevated testerone levels would factor as well because it’s obviously about Imane’s safety but the wider safety that it’s about, is female competitors in sports events…?…this is an interesting and layered case and potentially it could have opened up discussions because there are many people who are eager to have those…but sadly, it’s another agenda hijacking …I did read an article this morning that celebrities who spoke out in criticism of Imane are apologising so that’s good to hear…and yeah, there’s no criticism to be had of Angela Carini…she reacted in a moment because of extreme disappointment …but then the internet took over, sadly…leaving Angela and Imane and all women as the victims of their war games…

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/irishwomens/status/1819372791050686556?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

A good thread that details all the facts and the route all of this disinformation has taken to spread the hatred and harassment targeted at this poor woman

[Ninastar]

you can get pretty nastily injured in basketball though, if you get hit in the head by that ball

and yes, are all women basketball players trans then? because they are taller than other women

Oh my god

[Nicky91]

Imane Khelif

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making a mockery of this lady's name now too i see

so vile :idc:

[GiRTh]

F4HXeZi2t3Q

There are some forum members who dont quite get the advantages that Miss Khalif has over her opponents so I've posted what I think is a good example. The fight starts at about 12 minutes in

We now know that Holyfield was juicing before this fight and you can see the clear advantage the steroids have given him. Pretty much from the first round every time the two fighters come together Holyfield is pushing forward and Tyson is going backward. Many times Holyfeild simply pushes Tyson away with force. Thats the advantage of being stronger and more powerful gives you. You are able to push your opponent to where ever you want them to go. And this is Mike Tyson he's fighting not a mug

People say that she's lost so it must be even. No that means she's rubbish and looking at her fight her footwork is poor and she looks a bit of a one trick pony. I have nothing against her I just dont think she's a very good fighter.

I see her next opponent is not happy about fighting her and I can see why. She should not be competing but I think she cant move up a level from what I've seen

IF they were pros then I'd have no issue with any of this but at amateur level - where its about the love of the sport - this is not what I want to see..

[Quantum Boy]

Tbf I think that he has a fair point here.

Don't worry about Livia Mock, she's just... well, she's just a bit of a dick let's face it :joker:.

[Quantum Boy]

You only have to read this thread to see that the whole thing has been hijacked. Members of this forum openly posting transphobic comments and the fact they’re comfortable doing so says an awful lot about the hostile society we live in. How much further will it slip? Only time will tell.

I largely agree and would boil it down to that I believe there's a conversation to be had - but there's currently no world in which to have these conversations. Not in public view, anyway.

In this case I agree that there maybe should have been more thought given, weight wise? I don’t watch boxing so don’t know the ins and outs.


If it comes down to this ACTUAL case I'm far more hard line when it comes to the basics: I don't think combat sports should be a thing. Full stop. I ppreciate that there's risk in any sport but any sport where the primary intent is to cause physical damage to each other should have been left in the Colosseum. So ultimately I don't think the gender, weight category, or anything else SHOULD be the focus... they just shouldn't be doing it. However while the world is still insisting that there's merit in it and wants to continue... the focus needs to be on it being done as safely as possible, not as inclusively as possible. In a nutshell.

[GiRTh]

F4HXeZi2t3QI'm enjoying watching this fight again.:laugh:

You can see after three or four rounds that Holyfield is, more or less, putting Tyson wherever he wants in the ring. Pushing him around and manhandling him.

[GiRTh]

If it comes down to this ACTUAL case I'm far more hard line when it comes to the basics: I don't think combat sports should be a thing. Full stop. I ppreciate that there's risk in any sport but any sport where the primary intent is to cause physical damage to each other should have been left in the Colosseum. So ultimately I don't think the gender, weight category, or anything else SHOULD be the focus... they just shouldn't be doing it. However while the world is still insisting that there's merit in it and wants to continue... the focus needs to be on it being done as safely as possible, not as inclusively as possible. In a nutshell.I respect this point of view. I also think that the likes of KSI, Jake Paul do nothing for the credibility of the sport. Having jokers like those fight and get good ratings, makes people think the fight game is easy.

[Quantum Boy]

I respect this point of view. I also think that the likes of KSI, Jake Paul do nothing for the credibility of the sport. Having jokers like those fight and get good ratings, makes people think the fight game is easy.

See now I actually manage to quite enjoy those daft influencer fights, because for one it's just dumb people with too much money doing dumb stuff (always fun) and for two I'm 99% sure it's basically WWE not a real fight.

[GiRTh]

See now I actually manage to quite enjoy those daft influencer fights, because for one it's just dumb people with too much money doing dumb stuff (always fun) and for two I'm 99% sure it's basically WWE not a real fight.We'll have to disagree :laugh:

My problem with those joke fights, is the actual fight is an afterthought. Its about scoring points at the weigh in, the press conference etc. SO when we get to the fight the sheep that follow it ignore the result and declare a winner due to what happened at all the events leading up to the fight. The Tommy Fury v KSI is a great example. Awful fight, joke of a fight, dog of a fight but some people actually think KSI won cuz of what happened before they even stepped into the ring. Its bizarre

[Nicky91]

her match begins

03.08.2024 17:22 CET (16:22 UK Time)


source: flashscore



hoping for a solid match, i hope Hamoni can also try to enjoy this fight, rather than stressing herself out playing against someone she doesn't like, unlike Carini whom worked really hard to get to Paris, only for her to get punched in the face after less than a minute, you also practice evading your opponent's moves tbh


hopefully Hamoni has come better prepared with a better strategy


i'm not fully for Khelif, but i more want the best to win so we have a as strong as possible final

[Nicky91]

Paris 2024 Olympics boxer Imane Khelif's father defended his daughter after she faced an international gender row amid a frenzy of misinformation.

Italian boxer Angela Carini abandoned the last-16 contest against her Algerian opponent after just 46 seconds, saying she was unable to continue after suffering what she described as the hardest punch of her life.

The Italian's reaction led to a social media pile-on, with some accusing her opponent of being a trans woman, because she has previously failed a gender test due to a medical condition.

Khelif is biologically female and was born and raised as a woman.

"My child is a girl. She was raised as a girl... The Italian opponent she faced was unable to defeat my daughter," Omar Khelif said.


https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/sport/olympics-imane-khelif-boxing-gender-father-b2590586.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lisa Nandy, Starmer’s own Culture Secretary, described Khelif’s victory as an “incredibly uncomfortable watch”.

[Beso]

Whens the next fight..I've been to the co op for popcorn.

[Cherie]

Whens the next fight..I've been to the co op for popcorn.

Today around 4.30

[Beso]

Today around 4.30

Oh lovely..

I better keep some back for that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Vice President of World Boxing confirms what he knows about Imane Khelif


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“The problem was not with the level of Khelif’s testosterone, because that can
be adjusted nowadays, but with the result of the gender test, which clearly
revealed that the Algerian boxer is biologically male.”


István Kovács, the European Vice President of the World Boxing Organization
and former Secretary General of the International Boxing Association has also
revealed he warned the IOC about males participating in women’s boxing in
2022, but was ignored.


https://reduxx.info/international-olympic-committee-was-warned-about-male-boxers-world-boxing-organization-vice-president-says/

[Glenn.]

Nope wrong again

[Glenn.]

https://twitter.com/irishwomens/status/1819372791050686556?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

A good thread that details all the facts and the route all of this disinformation has taken to spread the hatred and harassment targeted at this poor woman

Have a read of this mate

[Ninastar]

We'll have to disagree :laugh:

My problem with those joke fights, is the actual fight is an afterthought. Its about scoring points at the weigh in, the press conference etc. SO when we get to the fight the sheep that follow it ignore the result and declare a winner due to what happened at all the events leading up to the fight. The Tommy Fury v KSI is a great example. Awful fight, joke of a fight, dog of a fight but some people actually think KSI won cuz of what happened before they even stepped into the ring. Its bizarre

I genuinely hope that a stage light or something will fall on Jake Paul

[Nicky91]

has Hamoni already chickened out or something :fan:

or is she delaying the match on purpose bc she is scared lol

[Livia]

has Hamoni already chickened out or something :fan:

or is she delaying the match on purpose bc she is scared lol

Your scoring female athletes is disgusting, but from you, unsurprising.

[GiRTh]

has Hamoni already chickened out or something :fan:

or is she delaying the match on purpose bc she is scared lolThis is rather flippant. She has every right to be scared.

[Nicky91]

This is rather flippant. She has every right to be scared.

more like Imane has every right to be scared

Anna Luca is now nicely fed with all the hatred on social media, she is gonna demolish the algerian i think

[Nicky91]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO

Imane easily won


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO

:yuk:

[Nicky91]

hope Anna Luca doesn't have a too bad injury from her defeat against that man

:sad: :hug:

[Nicky91]

i wonder if Carini was bribed to suddenly change her opinion


i mean wouldn't surprise me from countries like Algeria and also the Middle East who are notorious for bribery

:suspect:

[Ammi]

…hmmmmmm, I’m not knowledgable on boxing but that didn’t look like there was any ‘advantaged athlete’ in the ring…/…but I honestly don’t know what I would be looking for to indicate differently…

[Nicky91]

…hmmmmmm, I’m not knowledgable on boxing but that didn’t look like there was any ‘advantaged athlete’ in the ring…/…but I honestly don’t know what I would be looking for to indicate differently…

Imane looks very much more like a man than a woman ;)



if it looks like a man, fights like a man, it must've been a man

[Nicky91]

that woke wikipedia are protecting him now too :yuk:

[GoldHeart]

…hmmmmmm, I’m not knowledgable on boxing but that didn’t look like there was any ‘advantaged athlete’ in the ring…/…but I honestly don’t know what I would be looking for to indicate differently…

Yeah in not boxing expert either ,but maybe they could do some type of compromise for someone with Imane's condition.

[GiRTh]

…hmmmmmm, I’m not knowledgable on boxing but that didn’t look like there was any ‘advantaged athlete’ in the ring…/…but I honestly don’t know what I would be looking for to indicate differently…Two jabs broke the Italian fighters nose. The first jab clearly rattled her and she had to check her head guard, the 2nd broke the nose. When a job is doing that level of damage then its time to get out. If it had gone say three rounds the Italian fighter may have got badly hurt if a jab can break her nose.

[Liam-]

Is there any evidence of her nose being broken? Or are we just going on her vibes?

[Nicky91]

Yeah in not boxing expert either ,but maybe they could do some type of compromise for someone with Imane's condition.

yes finally wake up from planet deludanoid and make her ineligible to compete


her condition, she just went from male to female, so as that also is a rule break in algeria, she should be locked up for life

[GiRTh]

Is there any evidence of her nose being broken? Or are we just going on her vibes? The fighter said it broke her nose and there's no need to question it.

[Liam-]

Oh I don’t know, everything else in the situation is being questioned, so when she’s pictured after the fight with a nose that looks perfectly unharmed, and she said it ‘felt’ like her nose was broken, I think it’s fair to question the validity of the nose break if it’s going to be used as evidence as why this woman shouldn’t be allowed to continue competing

[Ammi]

Two jabs broke the Italian fighters nose. The first jab clearly rattled her and she had to check her head guard, the 2nd broke the nose. When a job is doing that level of damage then its time to get out. If it had gone say three rounds the Italian fighter may have got badly hurt if a jab can break her nose.

…yeah, I would be so unfair to all competitors to have an ‘advantaged athlete’ in a combat sport at the very least thing…at the worst, it’s highly dangerous …I’m going to bow out of this for a bit and see how it all unfolds with all sporting bodies and officials etc…it’s definitely something, I feel…that’s going to rumble on for a while…

[GiRTh]

Oh I don’t know, everything else in the situation is being questioned, so when she’s pictured after the fight with a nose that looks perfectly unharmed, and she said it ‘felt’ like her nose was broken, I think it’s fair to question the validity of the nose break if it’s going to be used as evidence as why this woman shouldn’t be allowed to continue competingThe nose didnt look unharmed. SHe clearly had some discomfort with it. She said it was broke but I dont think anyone has checked further

[GiRTh]

Khelif is on BBC right now. Its confirmed, she isnt very good.

[GiRTh]

…yeah, I would be so unfair to all competitors to have an ‘advantaged athlete’ in a combat sport at the very least thing…at the worst, it’s highly dangerous …I’m going to bow out of this for a bit and see how it all unfolds with all sporting bodies and officials etc…it’s definitely something, I feel…that’s going to rumble on for a while…If Khelif wins the gold there will probably be protests against it.

[Liam-]

Is she not very good or is she too good to face the average woman boxer? Minds really need to be made up at this point

[GiRTh]

Her opponent is doing the best she can but the speed differential is easy to see.

[Liam-]

Thankfully she won, hopefully she isn’t letting the abuse and harassment get to her too badly

[GiRTh]

Is she not very good or is she too good to face the average woman boxer? Minds really need to be made up at this pointIf she was good she'd be smashing all of her opponents. Her opponent today is doing OK but it wont be enough.

Alot of time they get into a clinch they end up on the canvas. Nuff said.:laugh:

Khelif is only the 5th seed. There you go even the governing body dont think she's that good.

[Livia]

It's a travesty for women's sport. You want to continue in your sport you have to fight a biological male.

[GiRTh]

Thankfully she won, hopefully she isn’t letting the abuse and harassment get to her too badlyIf she wins the gold and stays an amateur there will be huge backlash. She need to find another level of fighting.

I hope she doesn't win to prove she's not very good and to force her to find something else. Being a man with a vagina who beats up women for a living is not something to be proud of IMO

[Liam-]

So she very obviously doesn’t have an overt advantage over her opponents then does she if her record isn’t perfect and her opponents who aren’t babies can put up a fight against her so I ask, what exactly is the issue with her competing as the woman she is

[Glenn.]

“Man with a vagina”

[GiRTh]

“Man with a vagina”Basically quite accurate. You may not like the phrase but tell me how its not accurate.

[GiRTh]

So she very obviously doesn’t have an overt advantage over her opponents then does she if her record isn’t perfect and her opponents who aren’t babies can put up a fight against her so I ask, what exactly is the issue with her competing as the woman she isAre you saying that because she's not very good then she should be able to carry on. No she needs to find something else.

[Glenn.]

Basically quite accurate. You may not like the phrase but tell me how its not accurate.

Literally most of the replies in here would tell you that a man cannot have a vagina…

[GiRTh]

The nearest I can think of in the mens pro game is George Foreman. He was bigger and stronger than everyone and he smashed every one. Then came the Rumble in the Jungle Foreman lost and had mental health issues for almost a decade. Then he came back at the age of almost 40 and smashed everyone again. Being bigger and stronger is a huge advantage and the fact that Khelif is losing to weaker women and cannot fully use her advantage means the fight game is probably not for her. I encourage her to find something else or retire. She's making this great sport into a circus

[GiRTh]

Literally most of the replies in here would tell you that a man cannot have a vagina…OK Man without a penis. I stand corrected :shrug:

[Liam-]

Are you saying that because she's not very good then she should be able to carry on. No she needs to find something else.

No, you and other people are saying she shouldn’t be allowed to compete because she has an unfair biological advantage that makes her a better boxer than her opponents, when her record and her performances prove the opposite to be true, which has lead you to now saying that she’s not even all that good of a boxer.

Both things can’t be true, she can’t be this unfair, unstoppable biological boxing machine and also be a bad boxer that her opponents can go toe to toe with and even beat, the goalposts on why her existence in the sport is abhorrent keep moving and make less and less sense

[GiRTh]

No, you and other people are saying she shouldn’t be allowed to compete because she has an unfair biological advantage that makes her a better boxer than her opponents, when her record and her performances prove the opposite to be true, which has lead you to now saying that she’s not even all that good of a boxer.

Both things can’t be true, she can’t be this unfair, unstoppable biological boxing machine and also be a bad boxer that her opponents can go toe to toe with and even beat, the goalposts on why her existence in the sport is abhorrent keep moving and make less and less senseWhat I'm saying is that her biological advantage is such that she doesnt need to be very good to be competitive. She's competitive but she's not dominant and that cuz she's not very good at the technical side of the sport. If she was a better at the technical side, she'd be dominant and quite scary.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I posted an image of the boxer winning and mods deleted it?

is a picture of the boxer now off limits?


wow

[Zizu]

What I'm saying is that her biological advantage is such that she doesnt need to be very good to be competitive. She's competitive but she's not dominant and that cuz she's not very good at the technical side of the sport. If she was a better at the technical side, she'd be dominant and quite scary.


Perfect assessment


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[Quantum Boy]

What I'm saying is that her biological advantage is such that she doesnt need to be very good to be competitive. She's competitive but she's not dominant and that cuz she's not very good at the technical side of the sport. If she was a better at the technical side, she'd be dominant and quite scary.

To be fair though this apparently applies to a large proportion of the NBA in the US. Lots of players with far more technical skill than the tall lads who would utterly dominate if they were tall enough... But you basically have a much smaller chance of being a pro basketball player if you're not unusually tall (like over 6'8).

Im not using that as justification per se just an interesting thought... The best players aren't always necessarily the most skilled players, some element of biology can come into it.

The inverse is true of power-lifting, the squat little chaps can often lift more than guys who are taller - simple physics/leverage.

[GiRTh]

To be fair though this apparently applies to a large proportion of the NBA in the US. Lots of players with far more technical skill than the tall lads who would utterly dominate if they were tall enough... But you basically have a much smaller chance of being a pro basketball player if you're not unusually tall (like over 6'8).

Im not using that as justification per se just an interesting thought... The best players aren't always necessarily the most skilled players, some element of biology can come into it.

The inverse is true of power-lifting, the squat little chaps can often lift more than guys who are taller - simple physics/leverage.I think its true in all sport that a specific body type dominates at a younger age. Tom Brady is exhibit A. A great QB at college level but a poor athlete in comparison to his age group and so is drafted way down the order.

At a young age coaches are looking for an athlete and not really for a technician.

[Livia]

I posted an image of the boxer winning and mods deleted it?

is a picture of the boxer now off limits?


wow

But Nicky's nonsense is just fine...

[Cherie]

Enjoying someone who actually knows something about boxing commenting on this, thank you Girth

[Crimson Dynamo]

But Nicky's nonsense is just fine...

Its a pic of the boxer on every single news outlet today but the home of free speech Tibb deleted it

Agenda?

[GiRTh]

Enjoying someone who actually knows something about boxing commenting on this, thank you GirthThanks.

[Zizu]

What’s the betting this young ‘lady’ is fighting Jake Paul before the year is out
LOL
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[Crimson Dynamo]

+1

[GoldHeart]

What’s the betting this young ‘lady’ is fighting Jake Paul before the year is out
LOL
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Jake Paul is a pr1ck anyway.

[Zizu]

Jake Paul is a pr1ck anyway.


It was tongue in cheek of course

He can recognise a way to cash in on something..guarantee he will be promoting ‘her’ first fight as a professional


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