Female Olympic Boxer Hit by "Man" Gets Nose Smashed

[UserSince2005]

Italian Female Boxer got hit by her Algerian opponent and decided withdraw from the round, complaining it wasn't fair because her opponent was a man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/articles/cw0yvln9z00o

[UserSince2005]

46 seconds to get a broken nose.

[Livia]

I feel so sorry for the women who've worked and trained, then get pushed aside for a delusional male who wouldn't last one round in the men's competition. Algeria must be so proud.

[Alf]

Never mind eh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shameful abuse

[smudgie]

Shame on the people that allow this to happen.

[Alf]

Shame on the people that allow this to happen.They're called women.

They're the only ones that can stop it by not taking part.

[smudgie]

They're called women.

I was thinking more the sporting Comitees.

[Livia]

They're called women.

They're called the International Olympic Committee.

[Alf]

I was thinking more the sporting Comitees.No, they won't stop it, they're all for it. If they refuse they wont get their government money.

[Ninastar]

wtf the Olympics actually allowed this?

[Zizu]

Imagine if she collapses later on and falls poorly due to impact of a guy’s forceful punching

I think the authorities are leaving the women open to injuries and themselves open to prosecution/investigation
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[Alf]

Only the women can stop it by refusing to compete.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT5ZzuIXUAA_yNw?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Alf]

If every women in every sporting discipline boycotted the games right now. That will show some fight to stop this lunecy.

[Beso]

This is disgusting. You just have to look at then both to see the clear physical difference.

I would like ti read all fm views on this because I think certain users refuse to participate I this discussion because they're true feelings on the matter may upset their friends.

[Livia]

Only the women can stop it by refusing to compete.

Training and working for four years so they can refuse to compete because they may be hit by a man? Bloods terfs...

[Zizu]

Only the women can stop it by refusing to compete.


Just a pity she didn’t go public and explain how much harder the guy’s punch plus how their punch resistance is so much higher

Instead she took all the blame onto herself for failing and that is complete nonsense

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[Alf]

Training and working for four years so they can refuse to compete because they may be hit by a man? Bloods terfs...I agree, it's disgusting. But that's the only way it's gonna stop.

[GoldHeart]

And the clown foolery continues

[Nicky91]

and more negative moaning continues :bored:


they don't watch but they do complain, weird

[Nicky91]

The IOC noted that Khelif was a woman according to her passport and that this was not a transgender issue


she is a woman now, so treat her as a woman



also reminder

Racism/homophobia/xenophobia/discrimination of any sort won't be tolerated.

.

[Cherie]

wtf the Olympics actually allowed this?

There are two boxers both who were banned by the World Championship Committee due to high testosterone levels but were cleared by the IOC


We were told this would never happen, women were at no disadvantage at all in sports with transwomen, it occurred to me the other day while watching the female gymnasts that you will never see a transwoman in that sport, you will only find them in sports where they can outpower their opponent, boxing, swimming, atheltics etc, funny that isn't it

[Liam-]

Not trans, just a woman with naturally higher testosterone levels

[Zizu]

The IOC noted that Khelif was a woman according to her passport and that this was not a transgender issue


she is a woman now, so treat her as a woman



also reminder

.


‘She’s was born a bloke and will hit far harder than any women boxers the other competitors have been training with .. plus his punch resistance will be far greater

Come on guys .. we’ve all let our girlfriends/ wife / sister hit us on our arms to show they cant hurt us .


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[Nicky91]

There are two boxers both who were banned by the World Championship Committee due to high testosterone levels but were cleared by the IOC


We were told this would never happen, women were at no disadvantage at all in sports with transwomen, it occurred to me the other day while watching the female gymnasts that you will never see a transwoman in that sport, you will only find them in sports where they can outpower their opponent, boxing, swimming, atheltics etc, funny that isn't it

of course not, since gymnastics is only for the tiny girls, not much muscles

why you also have many of the girls retiring between the ages of 26 and 29



most transwomen were not really very masculine to begin with, hence why they choose to transition from male to female, born in the wrong gender etc


not just transwomen who got muscle on them in boxing, swimming, athletics women's events though, also you had Navratilova in the tennis back in the day and she is 100% female, just some masculine traits more muscle than others

[Nicky91]

‘She’s was born a bloke and will hit far harder than any women boxers the other competitors have been training with .. plus his punch resistance will be far greater

Come on guys .. we’ve all let our girlfriends/ wife / sister hit us on our arms to show they cant hurt us .


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sexist and transphobic much?

[Zizu]

sexist and transphobic much?


Nicky .. you are sooooo close to going back on ignore ..

Read the room ffs


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[Livia]

and more negative moaning continues :bored:


they don't watch but they do complain, weird

You think this is right? For a biological man to fight a woman? And you think I'm weird? Weird...

[Livia]

sexist and transphobic much?

Grow up Nicky before you find everyone has you on ignore.

[Nicky91]

You think this is right? For a biological man to fight a woman? And you think I'm weird? Weird...

that is in her past now, she is now a woman

okay i do have to admit she has some advantages over the other women but honestly all these athletes want extra challenges in their respective sport events

Grow up Nicky before you find everyone has you on ignore.

ignore me all you want, and call me woke all you want, but at least know of myself i am a good person

[GoldHeart]

sexist and transphobic much?

Nicky if this is a biological man then they shouldn't be competing in women's sports, can't you see the clear disadvantage .

[MTVN]

Not trans, just a woman with naturally higher testosterone levels

Yeah I'm confused by a lot of the comments talking about her being trans or born a man

It looks more like another Caster Semenya situation. Fair enough that she maybe shouldn't be allowed to compete on that basis but it's not a trans issue unless I'm mistaken

[GoldHeart]

that is in her past now, she is now a woman

okay i do have to admit she has some advantages over the other women but honestly all these athletes want extra challenges in their respective sport events



ignore me all you want, and call me woke all you want, but at least know of myself i am a good person

:facepalm:
You know this is unfair on the biological female athletes right?? .

[Liam-]

Yeah I'm confused by a lot of the comments talking about her being trans or born a man

It looks more like another Caster Semenya situation. Fair enough that she maybe shouldn't be allowed to compete on that basis but it's not a trans issue unless I'm mistaken

Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts

Another big win for the ‘we can always tell’ crew

[Livia]

that is in her past now, she is now a woman

okay i do have to admit she has some advantages over the other women but honestly all these athletes want extra challenges in their respective sport events



ignore me all you want, and call me woke all you want, but at least know of myself i am a good person

Trans women are not women. They are biological men.

You're woke today... Tomorrow, who knows. You make yourself look ridiculous.

[Livia]

that is in her past now, she is now a woman

okay i do have to admit she has some advantages over the other women but honestly all these athletes want extra challenges in their respective sport events



ignore me all you want, and call me woke all you want, but at least know of myself i am a good person

Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts

On calm down, Liam...

[Ammi]

Not trans, just a woman with naturally higher testosterone levels

Yeah I'm confused by a lot of the comments talking about her being trans or born a man

It looks more like another Caster Semenya situation. Fair enough that she maybe shouldn't be allowed to compete on that basis but it's not a trans issue unless I'm mistaken

…yeah, this…I wiki’d her and her early/childhood life is that she was born in a rural village to parents that didn’t approve of boxing for girls and prevented her from practising the sport at that time…so she’s female born is what it appears to be…

[GoldHeart]

Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts

Another big win for the ‘we can always tell’ crew

The title is saying she was born a man , or is that a mistake?...if so I'll hold my hands up.

I know there's some masculine biological women , there's some who take steroids...but that's a whole other debate.

In boxing each person is separated by weight class, aswell as gender .

[Livia]

Why was she not allowed to compete in the world championships last year? Must have been a reason... Yet they allow her to compete in the Olympics.

There's a distinct lack of support for the Italian boxer...

[Nicky91]

…yeah, this…I wiki’d her and and her early/childhood life is that she was born in a rural village to parents that didn’t approve of boxing for girls and prevented her from practising the sport at that time…so she’s female born is what it appears to be…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif

yup correct


so this is kinda awkward for those who thought she was a ''man'' before

[Livia]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif

yup correct


so this is kinda awkward for those who thought she was a ''man'' before

She should be sex tested or more women will fall victim, and the wokes will support that.

[Ammi]

…I’m not sure that she’s ’advantaged’ in any other way either just because she was defeated in the 2020 Olympics by Ireland’s Kellie Harrington…quite convincingly as well…5-0, so it wasn’t a close match result…

[Liam-]

…yeah, this…I wiki’d her and and her early/childhood life is that she was born in a rural village to parents that didn’t approve of boxing for girls and prevented her from practising the sport at that time…so she’s female born is what it appears to be…

This is what happens when bigots decide what a woman should look and act like, every woman that doesn’t conform to that is labelled as trans or at least ‘suspicious’ and they’re treated the same way trans women get treated, transphobia doesn’t just affect trans people unfortunately

[Nicky91]

Why was she not allowed to compete in the world championships last year? Must have been a reason... Yet they allow her to compete in the Olympics.

There's a distinct lack of support for the Italian boxer...

two different competitions?


world championships only the best of the best and best ranked boxers of the world compete in that


while in olympics, you have a chance to qualify for that in special OQT's (Olympic Qualification Tournaments) that goes for each nation having their national OQT


seems like she is not a top ranked boxer (yet) so that must've been the reason her not having taken part in those world championships

[Livia]

two different competitions?


world championships only the best of the best and best ranked boxers of the world compete in that


while in olympics, you have a chance to qualify for that in special OQT's (Olympic Qualification Tournaments) that goes for each nation having their national OQT


seems like she is not a top ranked boxer (yet) so that must've been the reason her not having taken part in those world championships

She was barred from the world championships because she failed gender eligibility tests.

[Nicky91]

She was barred from the world championships because she failed gender eligibility tests.

do you believe that?

a russian who claimed that, and those are the last i tend to believe lol



In 2024, the IBA said that Khelif and others "did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognised test, whereby the specifics remain confidential"

[GoldHeart]

This is what happens when bigots decide what a woman should look and act like, every woman that doesn’t conform to that is labelled as trans or at least ‘suspicious’ and they’re treated the same way trans women get treated, transphobia doesn’t just affect trans people unfortunately

Quit calling everyone ' bigots', the title said 'man' ...so what do you expect.

[Nicky91]

wouldn't be surprised if this idiot boxing president Umar Kremlev is the one who ''leaks'' this information to the media's

also him still being president there, is a clownery on its own, since russians everywhere got sanctioned in the sports and entertainment industry except in this event

[Crimson Dynamo]

Born in a small rural village with a very small inverted penis and wrongly sexed as a female at birth (happens in other cases) - he is a man and that is why he constantly gets banned for having normal male levels of testosterone. Had he been born in better medical circumstances that would not have happened.

[Beso]

Not wiki, suddenly being allowed as a reliable source from tibbs users...amazing...



What if she was trans Ammi, what then? What would be your view on that.

[Livia]

Born in a small rural village with a very small inverted penis and wrongly sexed as a female at birth (happens in other cases) - he is a man and that is why he constantly gets banned for having normal male levels of testosterone. Had he been born in better medical circumstances that would not have happened.

So, a man then.

[Zizu]

that is in her past now, she is now a woman

okay i do have to admit she has some advantages over the other women but honestly all these athletes want extra challenges in their respective sport events



ignore me all you want, and call me woke all you want, but at least know of myself i am a good person


You will soon be posting into a vacuum is what we are saying …


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[Zizu]

4 of these ‘people’ competed in yesterday’s women’s judo finals ‘

This is where we are at now !!



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[Cherie]

Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts

Another big win for the ‘we can always tell’ crew

They both have XY chromosomes as evidenced by science at the World Champs, of course you know best about everything apparently

[Cherie]

…yeah, this…I wiki’d her and her early/childhood life is that she was born in a rural village to parents that didn’t approve of boxing for girls and prevented her from practising the sport at that time…so she’s female born is what it appears to be…

with XY chromosomes which apparently we can just ignore, because after all as long as a gold medal is incoming it doesn't really matter if women get battered?

[Ammi]

with XY chromosomes which apparently we can just ignore, because after all as long as a gold medal is incoming it doesn't really matter if women get battered?

…no we can’t ignore it as to the eligibility being assessed for any athlete…I know that you know that’s not what I in any way stated or inferred/…nor that ‘it doesn’t really matter if women get battered…’…

…I’m confused as well because she was convincingly beaten in 2020 Olympics so doesn’t seem to be an ‘advantaged athlete’ from the information I can find atm…

[Cherie]

…no we can’t ignore it as to the eligibility being assessed for any athlete…I know that you know that’s not what I in any way stated or inferred/…nor that ‘it doesn’t really matter if women get battered…’…

…I’m confused as well because she was convincingly beaten in 2020 Olympics so doesn’t seem to be an ‘advantaged athlete’ from the information I can find atm…

Think I just heard some of the female boxers wont fight her, and what is more concerning is the IOC will take what is on a persons passport as a given as to their gender which seems a very soft approach

[bots]

i haven't watched the olympics since the Steve Ovett vs Seb Coe days

[Zizu]

…no we can’t ignore it as to the eligibility being assessed for any athlete…I know that you know that’s not what I in any way stated or inferred/…nor that ‘it doesn’t really matter if women get battered…’…

…I’m confused as well because she was convincingly beaten in 2020 Olympics so doesn’t seem to be an ‘advantaged athlete’ from the information I can find atm…


Wasn’t “she” banned from competing last year for failing some tests or am I mistaken


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[Zizu]

i haven't watched the olympics since the Steve Ovett vs Seb Coe days


I actually lost all faith in them after the Ben Johnson debacle!!


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[Cherie]

Giorgia Meloni, the Italian prime minister, says the Olympic boxing bout between Algeria’s Imane Khelif and Italy’s Angela Carini was “not an even contest”.

The bout was hugely controversial because Khelif has previously been thrown out of women’s boxing competitions owing to her male XY chromosomes. She was permitted to fight at the Olympics, however, because the International Olympic Committee, which governs Olympic sports, does not follow the same rules as the International Boxing Association.

When Khelif met Carini in their first-round welterweight contest on Thursday morning the fight lasted just 46 seconds before Carini withdrew with a suspected broken nose. The fight has heightened the controversy about athletes with abnormally high testosterone levels or other male characteristics being allowed to compete in women’s sporting categories.
Speaking after the bout, Meloni said: “I have been trying to explain for years that, when taken to the extreme, some theses risk impacting women’s rights.

“I think that athletes who have male genetic characteristics should not be admitted to women’s competitions. Not because we want to discriminate against anyone, but in order to protect the right of female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”

The Italian PM added: “I regret it [Carini’s withdrawal] even more. I was emotional yesterday when she wrote ‘I will fight’ because the dedication, the head, the character, surely also play a role in these things.

Carini said that she abandoned the bout because she could tell after one punch that she was outpowered.

“I got into the ring to fight,” said the 25-year-old from Naples. “I didn’t give up, but one punch hurt too much and so I said, ‘Enough, I’m going out with my head held high.’”

Her coach, Emanuele Renzini, stressed that quitting the bout was not planned in advance. “It would have been easier not to show up, because all of Italy had been asking her not to fight for days,” Renzini said.

“But Angela was motivated and wanted to do it. Of course when she met her opponent at the draw, she said ‘it’s not fair’. But there was no premeditation here today.

“She quit after taking one punch, she told me she didn’t feel she could fight. I tried to tell her to at least get to the end of the first round so we would fight, but she wouldn’t.”

Khelif is due to compete again in the quarter-finals on Saturday afternoon. Another boxer who has previously failed gender eligibility test, Chinese Taipei’s Lin Yu-ting, will make her Paris Olympics debut on Friday in the featherweight category.

Ministers hit out at Games criteria

The participation of Khelif and Lin was controversial even before Thursday’s knockout. The captain of the Australian boxing team said it was “incredibly dangerous” while one of Khelif’s previous opponents said she was simply grateful she had escaped from the ring safely.

Eugenia Roccella, Italy’s family and equal opportunities minister, said: “It is surprising that there are no certain, strict, uniform criteria at the international level, and that there can be a suspicion, and far more than a suspicion, of an unfair and potentially dangerous contest for one of the contenders at the Olympics, an event that symbolises sporting fairness”.

[Nicky91]

You will soon be posting into a vacuum is what we are saying …


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oh yeah i forgot, this is russia, you aren't allowed to have your own opinion

:notimpressed:

[Nicky91]

a woman with masculine traits, nothing out of the ordinary tbh, some women are less girly than others

[Crimson Dynamo]

a woman with masculine traits, nothing out of the ordinary tbh, some women are less girly than others

When was the last time you spoke to a woman face to face who wasnt your mum?

[Glenn.]

So she’s actually a woman? Not a man?

[arista]

Never mind eh


No Alf
That other Boxer is still a man

[arista]

[“I think that athletes who have male genetic
characteristics should not be admitted to
women’s competitions.
Not because we want to discriminate against
anyone, but in order to protect the right of
female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”]


Yes Ammi

She is a Man

[Cherie]

The UN’s special rapporteur on violence against women and girls (VAWG) has condemned the decision to allow Imane Khelif to compete in women’s boxing at the Olympics, with MPs and JK Rowling among other critics.

It comes after Italian boxer Angela Carini’s women’s 66kg clash with the Algerian boxer was abandoned after just 46 seconds.

The build-up to the fight was marred by controversy following the inclusion of Khelif, who was one of two athletes cleared to compete in the women’s boxing after being disqualified from last year’s women’s world boxing championships in New Delhi for failing to meet the necessary gender eligibility criteria.

Reem Alsalem, the UN’s special rapporteur on VAWG, said Carini “rightly followed her instincts and prioritised her physical safety, but she and other female athletes should not have been exposed to this physical and psychological violence based on their sex”

[arista]

Wasn’t “she” banned from competing last year for failing some tests or am I mistaken





Yes She /He was banned before


Ch5HDnews Live

[Liam-]

So she’s actually a woman? Not a man?

Born a physical woman, she has naturally higher testosterone levels, doesn’t matter to transphobes though

[Glenn.]

Born a physical woman, she has naturally higher testosterone levels, doesn’t matter to transphobes though

On Thursday, the IOC’s spokesman Mark Adams was asked about the controversy. “I repeat that all the competitors comply with the eligibility rules,” he said. “But what I would say is that this involves real people. And, by the way, this is not a transgender issue. I should make this absolutely clear.”


Wow the bigots look silly now huh

[Zizu]

Yes She /He was banned before


Ch5HDnews Live


For good reason clearly

The authorities will have to pray the poor girl ONLY has a broken nose and no other effects


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[arista]

[The build-up to the fight was marred by controversy
following the inclusion of Khelif,
who was one of two athletes cleared to compete
in the women’s boxing after being
disqualified from last year’s women’s
world boxing championships in New Delhi
for failing to meet the necessary gender
eligibility criteria.]


Yes Reports she was a Male
originally

[Crimson Dynamo]

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling


Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk of
male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment
enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose
life’s ambition he’s just shattered.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT5pawuWIAAUGw1?format=jpg&name=small

[Zizu]

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling


Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk of
male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment
enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose
life’s ambition he’s just shattered.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT5pawuWIAAUGw1?format=jpg&name=small


She has zero female facial characteristics

Just like these female Judo competitors

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[Ammi]

[“I think that athletes who have male genetic
characteristics should not be admitted to
women’s competitions.
Not because we want to discriminate against
anyone, but in order to protect the right of
female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”]


Yes Ammi

She is a Man

…this is the first I’m aware of her but she’s assigned female at birth…which she’s said was a disadvantage because female weren’t able to train in her country in the same way that males were…and in her country also, transgender isn’t allowed…/…it’s illegal…so why would her parent…/…any medical authority etc assign her as female if she was indeed sexed as male…



…I don’t understand how if she’s in any way ‘advantaged’ how she’s lost in some fights as well and at least one, a very convincing loss…(…I haven’t looked beyond her bio, to know what other losses were in terms of points etc…)…anyway, this is attracting attention and this is a good article from Time…I will just post the link because it’s quite a long article to copy/paste and I’m just going out atm…edited to say that from everything I’m reading in her country…transgendering is illegal so it doesn’t seem likely for her to have their full support in this…(…which they’ve given…)…if she was assigned male at birth…

https://time.com/7006338/imane-khelif-lin-yu-ting-gender-controversy-olympics-women-boxing/

[Livia]

Born a physical woman, she has naturally higher testosterone levels, doesn’t matter to transphobes though


XY chromosomes mean she's biologically male.

[arista]

…this is the first I’m aware of her but she’s assigned female at birth…which she’s said was a disadvantage because female weren’t able to train in her country in the same way that males were…and in her country also, transgender isn’t allowed…/…it’s illegal…so why would her parent…/…any medical authority etc assign her as female if she was indeed sexed as male…



…I don’t understand how if she’s in any way ‘advantaged’ how she’s lost in some fights as well and at least one, a very convincing loss…(…I haven’t looked beyond her bio, to know what other losses were in terms of points etc…)…anyway, this is attracting attention and this is a good article from Time…I will just post the link because it’s quite a long article to copy/paste and I’m just going out atm…

https://time.com/7006338/imane-khelif-lin-yu-ting-gender-controversy-olympics-women-boxing/


The Problem it is Private info.
what she was born as is a total secret/


Hence other nations banning Her/Him

[Ammi]

The Problem it is Private info.
what she was born as is a total secret/


Hence other nations banning Her/Him

…it wouldn’t be respected as private if it was illegal in her country, which it is…but they’re very much in support of her with this ….

[arista]

…it wouldn’t be respected as private if it was illegal in her country, which it is…but they’re very much in support of her with this ….


It was a live Debate On CNN HD USA


Private Information of what She/him
was born as
stays Private

[Livia]

Quite upsetting how many people support a biological male being allowed to beat a woman. All the female boxers at the Olympics should withdraw in protest. Alfie... I agree with you now, having seen some of the stuff written in here.

[Glenn.]

Quite upsetting how many people support a biological male being allowed to beat a woman. All the female boxers at the Olympics should withdraw in protest. Alfie... I agree with you now, having seen some of the stuff written in here.

This hasn’t happened as they were both female.


Pick a side guys Jesus. You are what you’re assigned at birth or not?

[Livia]

This hasn’t happened as they were both female.


Pick a side guys Jesus. You are what you’re assigned at birth or not?

So you're suggesting someone with XY chromosomes could be biologically female. LOL... Okay...

[Glenn.]

Nevertheless, they have male-like blood testosterone levels, the ability to utilize the testosterone in their bodies, and XY chromosomes that are usually found in a person who's a cisgender male (i.e., assigned male at birth).


Male LIKE

but still a woman

[Gusto Brunt]

Appalling. I was filled with disgust. In fact I switched off after a few minutes.

So unfair. An utter disgrace really.

[arista]

Nevertheless, they have male-like blood testosterone levels, the ability to utilize the testosterone in their bodies, and XY chromosomes that are usually found in a person who's a cisgender male (i.e., assigned male at birth).


Male LIKE

but still a woman


Look if that is True
Admin will edit the title
Ask them?

[Livia]

Nevertheless, they have male-like blood testosterone levels, the ability to utilize the testosterone in their bodies, and XY chromosomes that are usually found in a person who's a cisgender male (i.e., assigned male at birth).


Male LIKE

but still a woman

You cannot be biologically female unless you have XX chromosomes. Come on Glenn, this is science not make believe. Whatever someone is in their head is fine with me, be happy, enjoy their life... But someone with XY chromosomes is not physically equal to someone with XX chromosomes, they are physically superior.

[arista]

Appalling. I was filled with disgust. In fact I switched off after a few minutes.

So unfair. An utter disgrace really.


Under Official Rules
They are not permitted
to declare what her original Sex was?

[Glenn.]

You cannot be biologically female unless you have XX chromosomes. Come on Glenn, this is science not make believe. Whatever someone is in their head is fine with me, be happy, enjoy their life... But someone with XY chromosomes is not physically equal to someone with XX chromosomes, they are physically superior.

Do you have proof she has XY Chromosomes?


Imane Khelif is not a transgender woman; she was born female and has not undergone any treatments or procedures to change her gender. In March 2023, Khelif was disqualified for failing to meet eligibility criteria shortly before her gold medal bout at the 2023 IBA Women's World Boxing Championships. The Algerian Olympic Committee said Khelif was disqualified for medical reasons. It later emerged that the disqualification was due to naturally high levels of testosterone. International Boxing Association president Umar Kremlev claimed that the DNA test results of Khelif and other athletes "proved they had XY chromosomes", however, these supposed results were never published because they weren't done, the test was about testosterone only.
Also in Algeria, transitioning is not legally allowed and is strongly prohibited by Islamic law, as a conservative Islamic country.

[arista]

"Imane Khelif is not a"


No Glenn She has gone past all that stage
so She/He can win.

[Glenn.]

"Imane Khelif is not a"


No Glenn She has gone past all that stage
so She/He can win.

Nope

[arista]

Every Nation will use whatever
they can, to Win Gold Medals

[GoldHeart]

Trueee, twisting themselves in knots to justify their bigotry

Then what's the business about failing a 'gender test ' ? .

Calling people "bigots" because they don't agree with you ,is so tiresome honestly * sigh* :idc: .

I even said ...if she's actually female then I'll hold my hands up for being wrong,as biological strong women get wrongly
misgendered aswell.

[Glenn.]

Then what's the business about failing a 'gender test ' ? .

Calling people "bigots" because they don't agree with you ,is so tiresome honestly * sigh* :idc: .

I even said ...if she's actually female then I'll hold my hands up for being wrong,as biological strong women get wrongly
misgendered aswell.

She had higher levels of testosterone than the average woman. The XY chromosome story seems to be a load of crap as there’s been no actual evidence to prove this.

She failed a testosterone test which is the test they give her. No chromosome tests

[Livia]

Do you have proof she has XY Chromosomes?


Imane Khelif is not a transgender woman; she was born female and has not undergone any treatments or procedures to change her gender. In March 2023, Khelif was disqualified for failing to meet eligibility criteria shortly before her gold medal bout at the 2023 IBA Women's World Boxing Championships. The Algerian Olympic Committee said Khelif was disqualified for medical reasons. It later emerged that the disqualification was due to naturally high levels of testosterone. International Boxing Association president Umar Kremlev claimed that the DNA test results of Khelif and other athletes "proved they had XY chromosomes", however, these supposed results were never published because they weren't done, the test was about testosterone only.
Also in Algeria, transitioning is not legally allowed and is strongly prohibited by Islamic law, as a conservative Islamic country.

Let's see how this pans out. It'll save me saying things you'll just refuse to believe.

[Glenn.]

Let's see how this pans out. It'll save me saying things you'll just refuse to believe.

I asked for proof of what you were saying? Like actual evidence…

[Cherie]

XY chromosomes mean she's biologically male.

Liam knows this he just likes throwing the word bigot around and telling everyone else they are gullible

[Crimson Dynamo]

I asked for proof of what you were saying? Like actual evidence…

did you provide proof he was a woman?


asking for a friend

[Glenn.]

did you provide proof he was a woman?


asking for a friend

Don’t need to. I’m not disputing her sex

[Glenn.]

These diversion tactics though. You gotta laugh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Don’t need to. I’m not disputing her sex

Well the rest of the world's adults are disputing his sex and agree he is a DSD and should not be beating up women for personal glory

[arista]

These diversion tactics though. You gotta laugh

Thread title still says "hit by a Man"

If you want
you can PM admin
they will alter the title

[Glenn.]

Without providing any evidence :joker:

[GoldHeart]

These diversion tactics though. You gotta laugh

If this person was born MALE then it's very unfair to think it's ok for them to compete with biological women,they will always have the advantage... And you know this .

If she's just on steroids ,or is just naturally muscular then that's a different kettle of fish of course...as she's still a woman .

[Glenn.]

If this person was born MALE then it's very unfair to think it's ok for them to compete with biological women,they will always have the advantage... And you know this .

If she's just on steroids ,or is just naturally muscular then that's a different kettle of fish of course...as she's still a woman .

No no she was born a female. FEMALE.

SHE WAS BORN FEMALE

[Glenn.]

Well the rest of the world's adults are disputing his sex and agree he is a DSD and should not be beating up women for personal glory

Unless you’re a reform candidate of course! Seem to remember you actively defending someone that was convicted of beating a woman.

[GoldHeart]

No no she was born a female. FEMALE.

SHE WAS BORN FEMALE

Like I said if she was born female then the issue isn't to do with gender then. As she has every right to compete with other women. IF that is true .

But if she's been taking steroids or performance enhancement drugs,then that's also another issue.

[Liam-]

The continued shifting of the goalposts is ridiculous but completely predictable

[GoldHeart]

Plus in boxing they're split up into weight classes

A heavyweight female boxer is going to have an advantage over a lightweight female boxer for e.g .

[GoldHeart]

The continued shifting of the goalposts is ridiculous but completely predictable

Says the gatekeeper :whistle: .

[rusticgal]

Don’t need to. I’m not disputing her sex


Errr…that’s exactly what you are doing :smug:

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/08/01/2550746443091428438/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_2550746443091428438.jpg


[Italian boxer Angela Carini says
'I quit to save my life' after
stopping Olympics bout with
'biologically male' opponent Imane Khelif
just 46 seconds into first round]


Liam
Can you please contact the Daily Mail Newspaper
as they have the Truth....................
Which you do not agree with



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13698519/angela-carini-quit-save-life-stopping-olympics-imane-khelif.html

[Glenn.]

Errr…that’s exactly what you are doing :smug:

Errr. Read back carefully and slowly. I think you’ll find I’m doing the opposite of disputing…… :smug:

I think you’ve got yourself confused with the word debating :smug:

[Glenn.]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/08/01/2550746443091428438/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_2550746443091428438.jpg


[Italian boxer Angela Carini says
'I quit to save my life' after
stopping Olympics bout with
'biologically male' opponent Imane Khelif
just 46 seconds into first round]


Liam
Can you please contact the Daily Mail Newspaper
as they have the Truth....................
Which you do not agree with



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13698519/angela-carini-quit-save-life-stopping-olympics-imane-khelif.html

:joker: the daily mail don’t print the truth.

Just buzzwords for the ignorant gammons to get the clicks.

It’s been established that she was born female.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/01/12/88037889-13697397-image-a-59_1722511733055.jpg

Lady Fella
you are cheating

[arista]

:joker: the daily mail don’t print the truth.

Just buzzwords for the ignorant gammons to get the clicks.

It’s been established that she was born female.


But you can contact them
be polite
they will reply

[Alf]

No need to change the title. It's a man.

[Glenn.]

No need to change the title. It's a man.

Nope. As per from you. Wrong again

[Crimson Dynamo]

he was not born a female he was born a male and still is a male

"but i wont win the culture war :worry:"

give up, you lost that a long, long time ago....

[Glenn.]

he was not born a female he was born a male and still is a male

"but i wont win the culture war :worry:"

give up, you lost that a long, long time ago....

Nope. Wrong again

[Alf]

Welcome to a new Olympic Sport called, Violent Misogyny.

[Alf]

Nope. As per from you. Wrong againCock and balls the lot.

[Glenn.]

Cock and balls the lot.

Nope

[Liam-]

She quit because she couldn’t handle being hit by a stronger woman than her

[GoldHeart]

It sounds like she's just a strong muscular biological woman with something called - DSD ,a rare condition to do with her genes and how they're developed.

This explains it on NHS website


https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/differences-in-sex-development/#:~:text=Differences%20in%20sex%20development%20(D SD,different%20to%20most%20other%20people's.

[Liam-]

Cis women being bullied and harassed relentlessly because morons think they’re right about everything, really highlights how bad life is for actual trans people, it’s shameful that people are so in deep with their hatred that they’re blind to facts and reason

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cis women being bullied and harassed relentlessly because morons think they’re right about everything, really highlights how bad life is for actual trans people, it’s shameful that people are so in deep with their hatred that they’re blind to facts and reason

Oh did you get bored constantly defending the Paedophile Huw Edwards?

[arista]

Cis women being bullied and harassed relentlessly because morons think they’re right about everything, really highlights how bad life is for actual trans people, it’s shameful that people are so in deep with their hatred that they’re blind to facts and reason


No this is not them
this is someone,
who is well past all that.

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/esqueer_/status/1819019548005388380?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

True

[Alf]

NopeYou're just jealous because you're not half the man he is.

[Glenn.]

You're just jealous because you're not half the man he is.

Lmao do you actually think people take you seriously with response like this? Are you 12?

[Glenn.]

Oh did you get bored constantly defending the Paedophile Huw Edwards?

Diversion tactics though

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/esqueer_/status/1819019548005388380?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

True

have a look at this guys tweets on X

total bin fire of misogyny

:umm2:

[Alf]

Lmao do you actually think people take you seriously with response like this? Are you 12?I am whatever age I identify my age as.

Don't be such a bigot, assuming my age.

[Zizu]

Every Nation will use whatever
they can, to Win Gold Medals


Yeah look at Belgium


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[Glenn.]

No this is not them
this is someone,
who is well past all that.

Arista she isn’t trans.

[Glenn.]

I am whatever age I identify my age as.

Don't be such a bigot, assuming my age.

Definitely 12

[Alf]

Definitely 12Bigot.

[Zizu]

She had higher levels of testosterone than the average woman. The XY chromosome story seems to be a load of crap as there’s been no actual evidence to prove this.

She failed a testosterone test which is the test they give her. No chromosome tests


High testosterone gives an advantage in power / endurance/ aggression etc

Its bad enough in other events but absolutely horrendous in combat sports


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[Glenn.]

Bigot.

What time does the parental lock kick in mate?

[Alf]

What time does the parental lock kick in mate?Bigot

[GoldHeart]

That Alejandro doesn't speak for all of us , the reason this is happening is because we keep hearing about trans athletes competing in women's sports , so that hasn't exactly helped matters . So it was bound to happen ...where a biological woman would get mis gendered and they'd be misinformation about them.

She's from Algeria,so maybe it wasn't the best idea for the media to say she " failed a gender test". As people are going to misunderstand that.

I remember some years ago when a intersex athlete got stuck ,but she was still a woman...so wasn't exactly her fault.

By the way biological women get called "men" all the time with
baseless accusations. Especially when they're strong & athletic ... especially the female bodybuilders.

[Alf]

Your selected Tweet was DeletedFake news, that's why.

[Glenn.]

Bigot

Nawwww

[Glenn.]

High testosterone gives an advantage in power / endurance/ aggression etc

Its bad enough in other events but absolutely horrendous in combat sports


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Doesn’t make her a man.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sharron Davies MBE
@sharrond62


I’ve just done a bbc interview & several facts were presented wrong to me.
These boxers did not have testosterone tests they had gender/sex tests.
They were banned because they came back with an Y chromosome result.
Testosterone levels are an utter red herring in all of this. Castor Semenya as
per the written CASS report also states the ruling only applies to individuals
with 46XY 5ARD - a DSD which only affects biological males. CS does not
have unusual levels of testosterone for a female they have normal levels for a
male. The facts the MSM must start to report correctly so the general public
are properly informed about the biology of the individuals when biology in
sport is what matters so very much. Non of this is the fault of the DSD
athletes of course, but once they know they are biologically male they also
know they have an unfair & potentially dangerous advantage. Bring back
simple once in a lifetime cheek swab sex screening as female athletes want &
stop the vile circus which benefits no one caused 100 % by the IOC.


well glen?

[Alf]

Doesn’t make her a man.But being a man makes him a man

[Alf]

Sharron Davies MBE
@sharrond62


I’ve just done a bbc interview & several facts were presented wrong to me.
These boxers did not have testosterone tests they had gender/sex tests.
They were banned because they came back with an Y chromosome result.
Testosterone levels are an utter red herring in all of this. Castor Semenya as
per the written CASS report also states the ruling only applies to individuals
with 46XY 5ARD - a DSD which only affects biological males. CS does not
have unusual levels of testosterone for a female they have normal levels for a
male. The facts the MSM must start to report correctly so the general public
are properly informed about the biology of the individuals when biology in
sport is what matters so very much. Non of this is the fault of the DSD
athletes of course, but once they know they are biologically male they also
know they have an unfair & potentially dangerous advantage. Bring back
simple once in a lifetime cheek swab sex screening as female athletes want &
stop the vile circus which benefits no one caused 100 % by the IOC.


well glen?Love Shaz. Follow her on twitter. A proper feminist. Not one of the fake ones.

[Glenn.]

She was born female. I mean you all seem to be just ignoring this

[Glenn.]

In Swyer syndrome, individuals have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell, which is the pattern typically found in boys and men; however, they have female reproductive structures . People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures.

Talk talking like this isn’t a thing just because you don’t want to be wrong

[MTVN]

Okay so highly unusual for a woman to have xy chromosomes but not impossible. This boxer is also clearly not a typical man. There are it seems some slightly unfortunate souls who are born almost between genders and make this complex

[rusticgal]

This boxer is also clearly not a typical man.


Did you see her brief interview?….

[Crimson Dynamo]

Love Shaz. Follow her on twitter. A proper feminist. Not one of the fake ones.

a strong woman defending women against weak, angry men....

[Zizu]

Doesn’t make her a man.


It does make ‘her’ unfairly strong , aggressive and with a greater punch resistance OR in other words dangerous potentially lethal !


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[GoldHeart]

Did you see her brief interview?….

What did she say ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What did she say ?

he

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT6198EXIAAhq4c?format=jpg&name=small

[Glenn.]

he

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT6198EXIAAhq4c?format=jpg&name=small

Can’t even call this transphobic like you think you’re being because she isn’t trans

[Cherie]

Sharron Davies MBE
@sharrond62


I’ve just done a bbc interview & several facts were presented wrong to me.
These boxers did not have testosterone tests they had gender/sex tests.
They were banned because they came back with an Y chromosome result.
Testosterone levels are an utter red herring in all of this. Castor Semenya as
per the written CASS report also states the ruling only applies to individuals
with 46XY 5ARD - a DSD which only affects biological males. CS does not
have unusual levels of testosterone for a female they have normal levels for a
male. The facts the MSM must start to report correctly so the general public
are properly informed about the biology of the individuals when biology in
sport is what matters so very much. Non of this is the fault of the DSD
athletes of course, but once they know they are biologically male they also
know they have an unfair & potentially dangerous advantage. Bring back
simple once in a lifetime cheek swab sex screening as female athletes want &
stop the vile circus which benefits no one caused 100 % by the IOC.


well glen?

Judy Murray has called for the swab test to be reintroduced as well.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Judy Murray has called for the swab test to be reintroduced as well.

Another strong women not afraid of hateful weak men

[Cherie]

In Swyer syndrome, individuals have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell, which is the pattern typically found in boys and men; however, they have female reproductive structures . People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures.

Talk talking like this isn’t a thing just because you don’t want to be wrong

funny not two pages back you were denying there was any evidence this individual had XY chromosomes, and badgering Livia for proof, now you are an expert in Swyer syndrone :skull:

[Glenn.]

I guess not lmao

It’s hard to argue against blatant hypocrisy like that I suppose.

[Glenn.]

funny not two pages back you were denying there was any evidence this individual had XY chromosomes, and badgering Livia for proof, now you are an expert in Swyer syndrone :skull:

It’s called research. Maybe people should do some :thumbs:

Livias argument was that because the XY chromosome was there it meant she was only a man. So I looked into it. More than she did clearly.

As the old saying goes, you learn something new everyday

[GoldHeart]

funny not two pages back you were denying there was any evidence this individual had XY chromosomes, and badgering Livia for proof, now you are an expert in Swyer syndrone :skull:

I think she might be similar to intersex Cherie , well it's something called 'DSD' = to do with how her genes are formed differently.

[Ninastar]

Okay so highly unusual for a woman to have xy chromosomes but not impossible. This boxer is also clearly not a typical man. There are it seems some slightly unfortunate souls who are born almost between genders and make this complex

I always thought the term used in cases like this was ‘ intersex’

I could be wrong though

Intersex ppl would still have an advantage over cis women in most cases.

[Glenn.]

But fundamentally, she was born a female.

So it doesn’t really matter what anyone that disagrees thinks. Like I said earlier, people trying to be transphobic about it are idiots because she isn’t trans so their derogatory remarks are falling flat. Just showing everyone what idiots they are and how far this place has slipped to even allow them to make posts like it in the first place.

[Ninastar]

You’re never gonna change their minds and they are never gonna change yours and at the end of the day it’s all down to different opinions :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So we get to the stage where its a very rare sex mutation and the person is a man in every metric

and still we have "men" here saying its ok they should assault women

you could not make it up

sickening

[GoldHeart]

But fundamentally, she was born a female.

So it doesn’t really matter what anyone that disagrees thinks. Like I said earlier, people trying to be transphobic about it are idiots because she isn’t trans so their derogatory remarks are falling flat. Just showing everyone what idiots they are and how far this place has slipped to even allow them to make posts like it in the first place.

It sounds more like she was born between genders....if she has characteristics of both male & female genes :shrug:,which again isn't her fault if that's the case.

[Glenn.]

So we get to the stage where its a very rare sex mutation and the person is a man in every metric

and still we have "men" here saying its ok they should assault women

you could not make it up

sickening

Well as she was born female I don’t think you’ve been reading very well…

[Glenn.]

Anything on the woman beating reform ‘man’ yet?

You could not make it up

Sickening

[Glenn.]

Seems to be ok for men to beat up their girlfriend if they’re on ‘your side’

[Glenn.]

Radio silence

[Beso]

I would pay to watch the sumo wrestling version of all this nonsense.

[arista]

This paper also posted on
GP strike Thread.

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-febde870-afa0-4c11-b701-ba0b5c438e1b.png

[arista]

1818986936310075743

[Jordan.]

This paper also posted on
GP strike Thread.

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-febde870-afa0-4c11-b701-ba0b5c438e1b.png

Meanwhile they're putting this woman in more danger than she's put any opponent in the ring.

[Beso]

Meanwhile they're putting this woman in more danger than she's put any opponent in the ring.

I'm looking at the one with boobs, is it her you mean?

[Alf]

Meanwhile they're putting this woman in more danger than she's put any opponent in the ring.Don't worry, nobody is out to hurt your man. They don't think the same way you do. They just want womens sport to be for women.

When the Donald wins in November, sanity will return.

[GoldHeart]

Don't worry, nobody is out to hurt your man. They don't think the same way you do. They just want womens sport to be for women.

When the Donald wins in November, sanity will return.

Well it seems it's more complicated than that ,if this woman is intersex . It's also a rare condition anyway. Last time I heard about a person who was intersex in sports was quite a few years ago.

[Jordan.]

Don't worry, nobody is out to hurt your man. They don't think the same way you do. They just want womens sport to be for women.

When the Donald wins in November, sanity will return.

Well this is a woman, but you view social media gossip as gospel news so I doubt you'll ever admit to being wrong.

[Alf]

Megyn Kelly going in hard.

1819147869460246600

[Mystic Mock]

Italian Female Boxer got hit by her Algerian opponent and decided withdraw from the round, complaining it wasn't fair because her opponent was a man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/articles/cw0yvln9z00o

She's 100% correct.

We can't ignore Biology in Sports.

[Mystic Mock]

Not trans, just a woman with naturally higher testosterone levels

Shouldn't there be a separate division for female athletes that are in that category?

For example like how you wouldn't see a Heavyweight take on a Welterweight, without the Welterweight bulking up first, because of how dangerous it would be for the Welterweight otherwise.

These Sports shouldn't be ignoring Science.

[Mystic Mock]

‘She’s was born a bloke and will hit far harder than any women boxers the other competitors have been training with .. plus his punch resistance will be far greater

Come on guys .. we’ve all let our girlfriends/ wife / sister hit us on our arms to show they cant hurt us .


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What are those?:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Unless you’re a reform candidate of course! Seem to remember you actively defending someone that was convicted of beating a woman.

That was definitely a low for Reform.

[Nicky91]

she is born as a woman


how many more times do we need to repeat that



and i don't care about fake tabloids like daily fail




this is a similar case to for example Martina Navratilova, whom also looks very masculine and not very feminine



she is a woman, and if you want evidence, in algeria it is indeed strictly prohibited to transition from male to female or vice versa


and if we should believe that russian boxing president, given russians have a reputation of provocative behaviour

[Nicky91]

I'm looking at the one with boobs, is it her you mean?

not all women have huge boobs you know

:idc:

[Zizu]

not all women have huge boobs you know

:idc:


This isn’t the time to bring Caitlyn Jenner into the conversation


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[Ammi]

…she’s a born female so it isn’t a transgender thing but I would say that because of the complexities and layers etc of this, it still has to be looked at in terms of testosterone levels …I mean, I presume hers were at an acceptable level to be allowed to compete but that obviously has to be clarified too because it would/could otherwise surely weigh toward ‘advantaged’…as I’ve said a few times previously, I am quite confused about any advantage though, when she has also convincingly lost competitions in the past…so she’s not what could be called a ‘remarkable athlete’ that advantage because of raised testosterone levels could be a reason….

[Zizu]

…she’s a born female so it isn’t a transgender thing but I would say that because of the complexities and layers etc of this, it still has to be looked at in terms of testosterone levels …I mean, I presume hers were at an acceptable level to be allowed to compete but that obviously has to be clarified too because it would/could otherwise surely weigh toward ‘advantaged’…as I’ve said a few times previously, I am quite confused about any advantage though, when she has also convincingly lost competitions in the past…so she’s not what could be called a ‘remarkable athlete’ that advantage because of raised testosterone levels could be a reason….


Exactly

Testosterone levels are checked in all sports.. men and women from what I recall as its a game changer


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[Nicky91]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/articles/crgmyv9my0do

Algeria have condemned the baseless attacks at Imane Khelif


The Algerian Olympic Committee (COA) defended Khelif, denouncing what they called "unethical targeting" and "baseless propaganda" against her. The COA emphasized that they have taken all necessary measures to protect Khelif and reaffirmed her right to compete



https://olympics.com/ioc/news/joint-paris-2024-boxing-unit-ioc-statement

IOC statement

the Paris Boxing Unit published a joint statement affirming her eligibility to compete, and described many reports as misleading

.


https://www.teenvogue.com/story/gender-debates-around-the-2024-olympics-people-still-fear-powerful-women

Khelif has been the subject of false claims that she is a male-to-female transgender woman. Algeria is an Islamic country in which gender transition is illegal.

.

[Nicky91]

Imane Khelif is a biologically born female, so stop with the clickbait and spreading of fake news


poor girl, i really hope she wins gold or any medal now just for the karma to her haters



sickening what world we seem to live in :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imane Khelif is a biologically born female, so stop with the clickbait and spreading of fake news


poor girl, i really hope she wins gold or any medal now just for the karma to her haters

sickening what world we seem to live in :(



PIERS MORGAN Imane Khelif is NOT a biological woman – watching her beat her female opponent in the boxing ring was a sickening sight

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/piers_morgan_strap-1.webp?w=620

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/29633487/imane-khelif-olympics-boxing-piers-morgan/

[Nicky91]

PIERS MORGAN Imane Khelif is NOT a biological woman – watching her beat her female opponent in the boxing ring was a sickening sight

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/piers_morgan_strap-1.webp?w=620

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/29633487/imane-khelif-olympics-boxing-piers-morgan/

Piers is a commonly known provocative prick, didn't expect anything else from the ******

:idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Piers is a commonly known provocative prick, didn't expect anything else from the ******

:idc:

Olympics not going too well are they?

[Nicky91]

Olympics not going too well are they?

we kicked your arses in the rowing ;)

or do you think our women's rowers are also biologically male?

[Glenn.]

Anything on the woman beating reform ‘man’ yet?

You could not make it up

Sickening

Just bumping this. Pretty sure LT “hasn't” seen it

[Cherie]

It is a very complex situation, that said if she has a Y chromosome then she does have an advantage, maybe not in every situation but in the main she does, and sad as it may be we cannot put women in danger in the boxing ring , we dont want to be after the fact saying she should never have boxed in the female category due to a fatality.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just bumping this. Pretty sure LT “hasn't” seen it

He got sent to jail so I guess you wish this boxer to be jailed too? I disagree I would just ban this xy boxer from fighting women

[Black Dagger]

Italian cry baby shouldn’t do boxing if she doesn’t want to get hit in the face

Imane is a woman and the faux outrage from the likes of JK and pals because they’re fuming there wasn’t a trans athlete competing to bully so they’ve settled for this mess is laughable.

Crayons for brains.

[Nicky91]

He got sent to jail so I guess you wish this boxer to be jailed too? I disagree I would just ban this xy boxer from fighting women

yup discriminate against a woman for looking different than other women, and for having a gender disorder, unlike other women


:idc:


she is perfectly eligible to compete in women's boxing, as she is a biologically born woman, but if you fight against her you shouldn't act like a complete crybaby like Ms Carini (and btw her nose looked fine, i've seen worse looking noses honestly)

[Oliver_W]

So is this person actually trans or what?

[Black Dagger]

So is this person actually trans or what?

No. But don’t let that stop people in here desperate for her to be so they can be outraged and appalled!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1806005936152006657/VgIIEgjI_400x400.jpg


Jake Paul
jakepaul


To Angela Carini although your dreams couldn’t come true today because of the
crazy agendas that are at play in our world at the moment, I would love to
offer you to fight on an MVP undercard, to show the world your talents on a fair
platform and not against a man.

Internet help this find her.

https://x.com/jakepaul/status/1819059846521733149

[Glenn.]

Again. Not a man

[Cherie]

I find it interesting that people who have never boxed are calling this lady a cry baby, she has fought for years and reached Olympic standard and I think we shouldn't dismiss her concerns for her safety but some people are, I would put it on a par with putting a fly weight against a heavy weight in boxing terms, there was a reason Imane Khelif was banned from the World Championships, she didn't dispute it either so we cannot just brush that aside, the IOCs policy of just accepting what is on your passport is flawed

[Quantum Boy]

Again. Not a man

It's a very complicated one because of various laws and quirks here though. This is someone who was born with ambiguous genitalia and incorrectly assigned female at birth (we don't like that, right?) in a country where being trans is not legal. They then went on to go through male puberty, and it has transpired that they are hormonally and biologically male. But their country doesn't allow that so their legal documentation will always state that they were born female.

There's an element of "having your cake and eating it too" here I suspect. You're arguing that this individual who was born with ambiguous genitalia but later clearly started to present physically as male and this has been confirmed chromosomally, is still female because that's what they were assigned in the hospital at birth, and this can't legally be changed. At the same time, it's argued that gender has nothing to do with sex assigned at birth. You have to pick? Which is it?

[Oliver_W]

I'm not going to say I'm "glad" someone has an intersex condition, but I am glad that it's not a cis woman who's being called a man and trans by basically the entire internet.

[Beso]

It takes a lot of balls to box in womens boxing these days. That italian was very brave.

[Ammi]

I'm not going to say I'm "glad" someone has an intersex condition, but I am glad that it's not a cis woman who's being called a man and trans by basically the entire internet.

…but isn’t that so much how it is…she’s a cis women with high levels of testosterone and none of this is her fault…she’s won convincingly yesterday but she’s also lost convincingly in previous Olympics to fellow cis women…so it’s not really clear atm if she has testosterone levels that would give her an advantage over any other cis woman…

[Livia]

It's worrying that most of the gay blokes in this thread clearly hate biological women and go out of their way to make it clear.. Your hate is noted. Your mothers and sisters must be so proud.

[Glenn.]

It's worrying that most of the gay blokes in this thread clearly hate biological women and go out of their way to make it clear.. Your hate is noted. Your mothers and sisters must be so proud.

You’re so unnecessarily dramatic. There’s also straight guys in here that have defended a man actually beating his girlfriend.

Calm yourself down

[Livia]

You’re so unnecessarily dramatic. There’s also straight guys in here that have defended a man actually beating his girlfriend.

Calm yourself down

I'm worried about non biological women being allowed to injure biological women while a chorus of gays cheer them on. Regarding a straight man beating his girlfriend... You're making that up, or show me where that happened and went unchallenged.

"Calm yourself down" is clearly meant to bait and so I'm ignoring it. You may have XY chromosomes, like the Algerian boxer, but you didn't get to tell me what to do.

[Benjamin]

It's worrying that most of the gay blokes in this thread clearly hate biological women and go out of their way to make it clear.. Your hate is noted. Your mothers and sisters must be so proud.

Most but not all.

I agree biological women should only be contending in female sports. I personally believe there should be a third category for those wishing to compete.

[Glenn.]

I'm worried about non biological women being allowed to injure biological women while a chorus of gays cheer them on. Regarding a straight man beating his girlfriend... You're making that up, or show me where that happened and went unchallenged.

"Calm yourself down" is clearly meant to bait and so I'm ignoring it. You may have XY chromosomes, like the Algerian boxer, but you didn't get to tell me what to do.

Here you go :thumbs:

This guy won by 98 votes

A newly elected Reform MP said he was “deeply sorry” after it emerged he had spent a week in a young offenders institution nearly 20 years ago for assaulting a former girlfriend.

James McMurdock, who won the South Basildon and East Thurrock seat at the general election by just 98 votes from Labour, admitted the incident and said it had happened on a drunken night out.

The Daily Mail, which first revealed the details, said it had spoken to the victim’s mother, who said Mr McMurdock had “left marks” on her daughter’s body.

In a statement, Mr McMurdock said: “This is the biggest regret of my life and I wish I could go back and fix things.”

'Law breakers can't be law makers'
Reform returned five MPs at the general election. The most high-profile was Nigel Farage, who won in Clacton, but little was known about Mr McMurdock, who was described by his leader as a “paper candidate” who had joined the party only in May.

Rival parties said Mr McMurdock, 38, should have explained his past to the electorate before polling day.

Gavin Callaghan, the Labour leader of Basildon Borough Council, posted on X: “Law breakers can’t be law makers. This is a deeply disturbing story about our new MP in South Basildon and East Thurrock.

“If Reform UK knew about his criminal record before the election, why were they not honest about this with the public?”

According to the Daily Mail, Mr McMurdock pleaded guilty to one count of assault at Chelmsford Crown Court. He was working as a barman at the time.

In the report, the woman’s mother said there was “no way he should be an MP”.

Reform told the newspaper it was aware of the conviction but “believe strongly that people can change their lives”.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn083wy3e7po

He is an inspiration to all lags that you can turn your life around for the better

:clap1:

He served his time and has moved on and up with his life. Get a grip and stop wading in muddy culture war puddles 24/7

He pushed someone like 20 years ago

stop ranting and leave my family out of it

Never judge the man, judge his actions.

Hes done his time and done the crime. No excuses, and he will have to live with it. I'm assuming after all these years the girlfriend has moved on and is bow with a better man, and over the memory.

No one beat a wife

If you are here to troll around looking to cause discord at least have some basic facts

Jesus wept

he pushed over a girl when they were having a drunk row outside when he was a young lad, he served his time repented and went on to make something of his life which is to be greatly applauded

I know you and glen are desperate for it to be more for some perverse reason but that is what happened

and frankly using an assault like this to try and score points in your imaginary culture war is just incredibly petty - have you both not better things to do with your day?


:umm2:

He did not beat up a girl and your constant lying about what happened is beneath you


pathetic SB, away to your bed as you are coming across as a right dick

[Livia]

Most but not all.

I agree biological women should only be contending in female sports. I personally believe there should be a third category for those wishing to compete.

I didn't say all, and yes, make a third category, great idea.

Good to see you.

[Benjamin]

I didn't say all, and yes, make a third category, great idea.

Good to see you.

Good to see you too. :love:

[Liam-]

Let’s make a separate category for basketball for all the players taller than everyone else because they have a natural, built in ‘advantage’

[Benjamin]

Let’s make a separate category for basketball for all the players taller than everyone else because they have a natural, built in ‘advantage’

On that basis, with your counter, in all sports men and women should compete together, regardless of men’s natural, in-built advantage.

[Livia]

Let’s make a separate category for basketball for all the players taller than everyone else because they have a natural, built in ‘advantage’

No, because that makes no sense. Let's sort it out by chromosomes, the scientific way.

[Glenn.]

I love clocking people on here

[Cherie]

It's a very complicated one because of various laws and quirks here though. This is someone who was born with ambiguous genitalia and incorrectly assigned female at birth (we don't like that, right?) in a country where being trans is not legal. They then went on to go through male puberty, and it has transpired that they are hormonally and biologically male. But their country doesn't allow that so their legal documentation will always state that they were born female.

There's an element of "having your cake and eating it too" here I suspect. You're arguing that this individual who was born with ambiguous genitalia but later clearly started to present physically as male and this has been confirmed chromosomally, is still female because that's what they were assigned in the hospital at birth, and this can't legally be changed. At the same time, it's argued that gender has nothing to do with sex assigned at birth. You have to pick? Which is it?

A fast moving thread, maybe I missed the response to this?

[Liam-]

Sports are already split up into men and women, now people want certain cis women disqualified and segregated for biological conditions they can’t help, let’s split everything up even further, seeing as it can’t be fair for people to race against people faster than them, because they’re at a disadvantage, people shouldn’t have to play basketball against people taller than them, because they’re at a disadvantage

The goalposts being moved so that less talented athletes can whine and complain when they’re up against someone better than them and just claim someone is a secret man in a dress, it’s ridiculous

[arista]

Piers is a commonly known provocative prick, didn't expect anything else from the ******

:idc:


No Nicky his show is also shown
on Fox News Online in the USA.


So he is a Top Presenter

[Cherie]

Sports are already split up into men and women, now people want certain cis women disqualified and segregated for biological conditions they can’t help, let’s split everything up even further, seeing as it can’t be fair for people to race against people faster than them, because they’re at a disadvantage, people shouldn’t have to play basketball against people taller than them, because they’re at a disadvantage

The goalposts being moved so that less talented athletes can whine and complain when they’re up against someone better than them and just claim someone is a secret man in a dress, it’s ridiculous

This is not a case of a woman being better, it is a case of a woman having a Y chromosome.....what are you not getting about that? Taller and smaller people have equal advantage in different ways....muscle mass in males and females are different.

[Beso]

I love clocking people on here

Originally Posted by parmnion View Post
Never judge the man, judge his actions.

Hes done his time and done the crime. No excuses, and he will have to live with it. I'm assuming after all these years the girlfriend has moved on and is bow with a better man, and over the memory.



That's not defending his actions btw

[Livia]

Sports are already split up into men and women, now people want certain cis women disqualified and segregated for biological conditions they can’t help, let’s split everything up even further, seeing as it can’t be fair for people to race against people faster than them, because they’re at a disadvantage, people shouldn’t have to play basketball against people taller than them, because they’re at a disadvantage

The goalposts being moved so that less talented athletes can whine and complain when they’re up against someone better than them and just claim someone is a secret man in a dress, it’s ridiculous

First, most biological women do not recognise the term 'cis' and I'm one of them.

Women are weaker than men, this doesn't make them less talented when pitched against a biological male.

Why is there no outrage from trans men trying to get into men's sports? It's a mystery.

You like to call people bigots if they don't agree with your narrow view when in fact, you're the bigot. You are a bigot and a misogynist.

[Ammi]

…I would like to see that she’s an ‘advantaged athlete’…if Imane Khelif‘s career showed her to convincingly win her fights, but that doesn’t appear to be so…in this fight with Amy Broadhurst, it was Amy over Imane that was said to have ‘dominated’ the fight…


Wc6HqPbJtJA

[Glenn.]

Sports are already split up into men and women, now people want certain cis women disqualified and segregated for biological conditions they can’t help, let’s split everything up even further, seeing as it can’t be fair for people to race against people faster than them, because they’re at a disadvantage, people shouldn’t have to play basketball against people taller than them, because they’re at a disadvantage

The goalposts being moved so that less talented athletes can whine and complain when they’re up against someone better than them and just claim someone is a secret man in a dress, it’s ridiculous

It’s the faux outrage from men that make it hilarious

[Liam-]

…I would like to see that she’s an ‘advantaged athlete’…if Imane Khelif‘s career showed her to convincingly win her fights, but that doesn’t appear to be so…in this fight with Amy Broadhurst, it was Amy over Imane that was said to have ‘dominated’ the fight…


Wc6HqPbJtJA

Ammi shhh, people want to believe that this woman is an unstoppable, biological machine that decimates other women whenever she steps in the ring because she has a naturally higher level of testosterone that the average woman, please don’t confuse them with facts, logic or reason, or you’ll be called a misogynistic woman hater next

[Liam-]

It’s the faux outrage from men that make it hilarious

Someone that openly defends men who commit actual violence against women trying to give lectures about the ‘dangers’ of a strong woman boxing a woman is utterly laughable

[Livia]

It’s the faux outrage from men that make it hilarious

It's the faux-support from some women-hating gays that make it hilarious.

[Livia]

Someone that openly defends men who commit actual violence against women trying to give lectures about the ‘dangers’ of a strong woman boxing a woman is utterly laughable

Seems like you're scrabbling around for a decent response so you've reverted to your usual whataboutery.

Why do you hate biological women do much? It's so odd...

[Livia]

Ammi shhh, people want to believe that this woman is an unstoppable, biological machine that decimates other women whenever she steps in the ring because she has a naturally higher level of testosterone that the average woman, please don’t confuse them with facts, logic or reason, or you’ll be called a misogynistic woman hater next

I will always say it if it applies.

[Black Dagger]

It's worrying that most of the gay blokes in this thread clearly hate biological women and go out of their way to make it clear.. Your hate is noted. Your mothers and sisters must be so proud.

You really are just tediously insulting and predictable

[Glenn.]

It's the faux-support from some women-hating gays that make it hilarious.

Wondered when you were gonna reply. You seem to have skirted over the receipt's I posted after you called me a liar.

And as for your ridiculous gays hating women crap, I can’t see anyone on here that hates women?

[Liam-]

Transphobia and homophobia go hand in hand the vast majority of the time

[Livia]

You really are just tediously insulting and predictable

You clearly haven't read some of the insulting stuff I've responded to. Have you anything to say on the actual topic? Probably not...

[Black Dagger]

I mean clearly I just hope every woman gets struck by lightning today. Clearly!

[Liam-]

I love women, which is why I’m finding all of these hateful, obsessive attacks, which are rooted in pure bigotry, against this poor woman really distasteful and it’s really showing peoples asses

[Livia]

Wondered when you were gonna reply. You seem to have skirted over the receipt's I posted after you called me a liar.

And as for your ridiculous gays hating women crap, I can’t see anyone on here that hates women?

Look in the mirror.

[Black Dagger]

You clearly haven't read some of the insulting stuff I've responded to. Have you anything to say on the actual topic? Probably not...

Clearly you haven’t read my posts before this or you just continue to be blinkered.

If you want to call several of us woman haters with no evidence to back it up.

I’ve just screamed at my telly at two women winning a rowing event. Must have been cheering for them to fall in and drown instead clearly as a woman hating beast

[Livia]

I mean clearly I just hope every woman gets struck by lightning today. Clearly!

I said some gays. Benjamin responded like an adult. And here you are...

[Quantum Boy]

The infuriating irony here is that a very valid and important debate around actual (extremely rare) intersex conditions and the implications in sport that should be had reasonably and sensibly, is once again completely lost in the "trans debate", when the consideration (medical, social, whichever) of intersex conditions and "gender ideology" are completely separate discussions.

Hijacking of real issues on all sides by banal ideology-based "I finks".

[Livia]

Clearly you haven’t read my posts before this or you just continue to be blinkered.

If you want to call several of us woman haters with no evidence to back it up.

I’ve just screamed at my telly at two women winning a rowing event. Must have been cheering for them to fall in and drown instead clearly as a woman hating beast

I never referred specifically to you. Do get over yourself.

[Black Dagger]

I never referred specifically to you. Do get over yourself.

None of the other “gays” in this thread have posted anything to suggest they hate women either so I’d try and run a different angle for a change

[Livia]

The infuriating irony here is that a very valid and important debate around actual (extremely rare) intersex conditions and the implications in sport that should be had reasonably and sensibly, is once again completely lost in the "trans debate", when the consideration (medical, social, whichever) of intersex conditions and "gender ideology" are completely separate discussions.

Hijacking of real issues on all sides by banal ideology-based "I finks".

Ah, here's soldier boy to show us where we've all gone wrong and tell us what we should really be thinking.

[Glenn.]

Look in the mirror.

I do everyday! You should see it, it’s ****ing sexy.

I’ll take your radio silence on the straights DEFENDING a woman beater as a one nil to me.

[Liam-]

The infuriating irony here is that a very valid and important debate around actual (extremely rare) intersex conditions and the implications in sport that should be had reasonably and sensibly, is once again completely lost in the "trans debate", when the consideration (medical, social, whichever) of intersex conditions and "gender ideology" are completely separate discussions.

Hijacking of real issues on all sides by banal ideology-based "I finks".
It shouldn’t be a trans issue because she’s not trans, but If it shouldn’t be a ‘trans’ thing, then the ‘gender criticals’ shouldn’t have gone bananas and started calling this woman a man in disguise, that’s what’s started all of this, weirdos who think woman who aren’t like the ‘average’ or ‘normal’ woman are just freakish men