Strictly Come Dancing Discussion Thread (first live show tonight at 18.55)BBC1HD

[AnnieK]

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Thread ready for the start of the new season.

Post who your pre-start favourites are and who you think will win

[AnnieK]

Opening show is Saturday 20th September

[Crimson Dynamo]

Le BOSH

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[Vanessa]

Le BOSH

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I'm so rooting for him and hoping he has a good pro. Dianne would be fab

[Nicky91]

good work Annie, also having the cast photos in the OP



think i'll root the most for Jimmy, Stefan, Dani this year, it is quite a unpredictable series also with the Online Voting only, and no longer the phone voting

[Nicky91]

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[Nicky91]

WOOF WOOF Alex is serving HOTNESS :D



Jimmy looking confident in that pose :flutter:




Ross King serving up Bob Pinciotti from That 70's Show vibes and somehow kinda in a good way :laugh:

[Nicky91]

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tonight at 6:40


length of tonights show, 1 hour and 50 minutes

[Nicky91]

gonna be fun


i wonder who the music guest performer is for tonights launch :think:



also looking forward seeing Chris & Dianne again with one of their favourite performances :love:




also i cannot see past Ross King as Bob from that 70's show, so i'm calling him Bob from now on :joker:

[AnnieK]

Launch night tonight....although I never watch the launch as I find it a bit cringe. Id rather they just crack on and start the competition.

[Vanessa]

So exciting. It begins! :dance::cheer2:

[arista]

On BBC1HD now

[Vanessa]

Lewis! Hello. Hottie alert :amazed:

[Vanessa]

He's got Katya! This is exciting already

[Vanessa]

I'm getting Kelvin Fletcher vibes off Lewis

[Barry.]

I'm getting Kelvin Fletcher vibes off Lewis

Thought that too. He looks like he'll be good

[Vanessa]

George is giving me Jay Mcguinness vibe.

[Mystic Mock]

I think that Lewis or Vicky will win.

I am personally most familiar with Karen and Jimmy though, so they have a headstart over the others for me.

[Mystic Mock]

Oh and on a shallow front, I will say that Vicky is the prettiest out of the women in this series in my view.

There's no one in the same league as Sam last year though.:bawling:

[Nicky91]

yup my faves definitely are

Stefan & Dianne

Jimmy & Lauren

and i also love the look of Ross & Jowita together, they could be a fun partnership too


i hope Nikita is strong enough to cope with camera hogger Danny Dyer :fan: but then again he survived Gordon Ramsay so, that makes Danny seem lesser bad




Stefan's reason especially for taking part, doing it for his wife, who has been a professional dancer :lovedup: wanting to take her ballroom dancing


Alex Kingston is sooooooooooooo WHOLESOME, i think i will love Alex & JoJo more than i did MoJo last year, also Alex's dog in that tuxedo is just super cute :love:

[Vanessa]

Mum's are going to love George. He's just so adorable. I'm not a mum but I love him :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Jimmy's daughters in the audience :flutter: his oldest btw plays Tina Turner in theatre :cool:

they've been watching Strictly for many years :clap1:



i thought he looked alright in the group dance, not doing too many wacky moves, just a bit of side by side content with Lauren, i really hope Jimmy can be another Krishnan :fc: and i hope it for Jimmy too he can do better than last years Paul Merson :laugh:

[Livia]

I didn't hate anyone. Although I'm not sure what Ellie Goldstein's going to bring to the party.

[Livia]

Oh and on a shallow front, I will say that Vicky is the prettiest out of the women in this series in my view.

There's no one in the same league as Sam last year though.:bawling:
Well, I guess she's spent tho most on her face.

[Barry.]

I didn't hate anyone. Although I'm not sure what Ellie Goldstein's going to bring to the party.

I really hope she doesn’t get the sympathy vote if she’s not good. If she’s good then that’s a different story

[Livia]

I really hope she doesn’t get the sympathy vote if she’s not good. If she’s good then that’s a different story

With no disrespect to the girl, she's not good. She's box tick. I have nothing against her, I wish her continued success and a happy life... But there is only one reason the BBC selected her.

[Nicky91]

not all people disabilities ended up winning though, only Rose and Chris were exceptions


i think this Ellie will have same fate as her paralympic swimmer namesake: Ellie Simmonds, could also see a Susan Calman 2.0 in her honestly, maybe if she has the entertainment factor



she'll be lucky to last to a 8th or 9th place :think: somewhere like that, when the real competition begins, when most deadwood are gone

[Strictly Jake]

Launch night tonight....although I never watch the launch as I find it a bit cringe. Id rather they just crack on and start the competition.

Same! I still haven't seen last night's. Im never gonna be able to watch it on a Saturday now cos of work. But will catch up shortly. But yeah it seems a pointless show. Especially when partnerships are leaked anyway before hand. Surely they can just show the celebrity being introduced to their partner in the pre vts before they do their first dance.

[Nicky91]

launch show isn't entirely pointless, we get to see who immediately gets on well with each other in terms of the pairings, and the group dance of course


and i'm saying it, i don't see Ross as a ''first out'' and i think his cha cha next saturday to california gurls will be good fun :D

[Strictly Jake]

Watched this tonight. Actually the cast aren't quite as bad as I thought they were on paper. Vicky is my current favourite.

[Mystic Mock]

Well, I guess she's spent tho most on her face.

:joker:

Tbf she was naturally pretty before the Botox imo, if anything it makes it a lot closer between Vicky and Dani due to her having the Plastic Surgery in my view.

[Mystic Mock]

I really hope she doesn’t get the sympathy vote if she’s not good. If she’s good then that’s a different story

Tbh, it didn't stop any of the other disabled contestants from other years doing well off of a sympathy vote.

I mean hasn't the worst performing disabled contestant on Strictly been 10th place? Which still means that they were at the very least more popular than five other people.

[Livia]

Tbh, it didn't stop any of the other disabled contestants from other years doing well off of a sympathy vote.

I mean hasn't the worst performing disabled contestant on Strictly been 10th place? Which still means that they were at the very least more popular than five other people.

Both Rose Ayling Ellis and Chris McCauseland were really good dancers and deserved to win. Other disabled contestants, Johnnie Peacock, Jody Cundy etc. Did well but just weren't good enough to win. Ellie Goldstein has no coordination or control, that was clear from the few minutes of dancing I saw on Saturday night. She's there to make others feel better. She can barely control herself in interviews and I can hardly understand her. God love her, she's going to try, but I just can't watch it. It's like when organisations like Chicken Shed turn up on Britain's Got Talent and we have to watch kids with Downs Syndrome leap about and then get a standing ovation. Just...no. If she improves week on week I will willingly apologise for what I said. But I don't think I'll have to.

[Vanessa]

I'm sure they will all improve. Really excited for Saturday

[Ammi]

I'm sure they will all improve. Really excited for Saturday

…I’m sure they will improve week on week and I always understood that to be something that the judges scored on as well as other aspects…

….Ellie is my sweepstake so I’m rooting for her, obviously…but also that she’s given an equal opportunity to take part and perform, even though her Down Syndrome might mean that learning the dance routines and performing them may have an added difficulty level for her…for all of the celebrities, it’s about their own self improvement within their abilities as well, I would think…

[Livia]

I'm sure they will all improve. Really excited for Saturday

Yeah, me too. I'm always a bit frustrated by the launch show, it's really long and drawn out too. Just start the dancing, already!

[Mystic Mock]

Both Rose Ayling Ellis and Chris McCauseland were really good dancers and deserved to win. Other disabled contestants, Johnnie Peacock, Jody Cundy etc. Did well but just weren't good enough to win. Ellie Goldstein has no coordination or control, that was clear from the few minutes of dancing I saw on Saturday night. She's there to make others feel better. She can barely control herself in interviews and I can hardly understand her. God love her, she's going to try, but I just can't watch it. It's like when organisations like Chicken Shed turn up on Britain's Got Talent and we have to watch kids with Downs Syndrome leap about and then get a standing ovation. Just...no. If she improves week on week I will willingly apologise for what I said. But I don't think I'll have to.

I strongly disagree with Chris, I feel like there were a fair few that were better than him last year. And Rose just did the same dance every week (which tbf to Chris, he was far less guilty of doing that) I would personally argue that John, AJ, and arguably Rhys were a lot better than Rose was in her year.

And tbf to Ellie, whilst I do agree with what you're saying about her, I honestly feel that performance wise she'll probably be as bad as most of the disabled contestants end up being on Strictly imo. Exception being Tasha last year, and even she tended to be overscored sometimes.

I said it last year, the disabled contestants should be given a spin-off version, it would be much fairer to both the disabled and the non-disabled. The non-disabled contestants would benefit because they're not potentially losing out on votes because they're not disabled, and the disabled contestants would all be on an equal footing with each other.

And from a fan perspective we get a new badass Strictly Show, instead of the judges treating Ellie with kiddy gloves, because I agree with you that I think she'll make the judges and public feel better if they 'cheer her on' regardless of anything else going on in the Show.

Apologies for the tangent.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah, me too. I'm always a bit frustrated by the launch show, it's really long and drawn out too. Just start the dancing, already!

This.

[Nicky91]

I strongly disagree with Chris, I feel like there were a fair few that were better than him last year. And Rose just did the same dance every week (which tbf to Chris, he was far less guilty of doing that) I would personally argue that John, AJ, and arguably Rhys were a lot better than Rose was in her year.

And tbf to Ellie, whilst I do agree with what you're saying about her, I honestly feel that performance wise she'll probably be as bad as most of the disabled contestants end up being on Strictly imo. Exception being Tasha last year, and even she tended to be overscored sometimes.

I said it last year, the disabled contestants should be given a spin-off version, it would be much fairer to both the disabled and the non-disabled. The non-disabled contestants would benefit because they're not potentially losing out on votes because they're not disabled, and the disabled contestants would all be on an equal footing with each other.

And from a fan perspective we get a new badass Strictly Show, instead of the judges treating Ellie with kiddy gloves, because I agree with you that I think she'll make the judges and public feel better if they 'cheer her on' regardless of anything else going on in the Show.

Apologies for the tangent.:laugh:

i mean Ellie Simmonds was also treated like that by the judges, but did she win, NOPE, not even close to the final, or the semi finals for that matter


and Susan Calman also got treated like that by producers, i mean her ''wonder woman'' cha cha



i love Ellie Goldstein's enthusiasm, and even if she is just doing something on the dancefloor, she still is doing more than the Widdebeast :fan: whom got to the semi's by just sitting down and getting dragged around week by week :joker:



and in terms of Thomas, he should take inspiration from the likes of John Sergeant, Ed Balls both of whom were good triers, despite limited technical abilities, even a Nick Knowles last year gave it a good go, despite hampered with an injury and one who also didn't quit




and in terms of La Voix, well i don't like every single drag queen out there, but La Voix kinda has that same-ish oldschool vibe like Dame Edna had (rest her soul)

[Ammi]

I strongly disagree with Chris, I feel like there were a fair few that were better than him last year. And Rose just did the same dance every week (which tbf to Chris, he was far less guilty of doing that) I would personally argue that John, AJ, and arguably Rhys were a lot better than Rose was in her year.

And tbf to Ellie, whilst I do agree with what you're saying about her, I honestly feel that performance wise she'll probably be as bad as most of the disabled contestants end up being on Strictly imo. Exception being Tasha last year, and even she tended to be overscored sometimes.

I said it last year, the disabled contestants should be given a spin-off version, it would be much fairer to both the disabled and the non-disabled. The non-disabled contestants would benefit because they're not potentially losing out on votes because they're not disabled, and the disabled contestants would all be on an equal footing with each other.

And from a fan perspective we get a new badass Strictly Show, instead of the judges treating Ellie with kiddy gloves, because I agree with you that I think she'll make the judges and public feel better if they 'cheer her on' regardless of anything else going on in the Show.

Apologies for the tangent.:laugh:

…so disabilities are segregated and delegated to a separate show and what is essentially an entertainment show….?…and also on an entertainment show that some with disabilities have progressed well in, in the past…I don’t agree at all, I think there are lots of ‘tick boxes’ with chosen celebrities…maybe some are chosen and asked to take part with consideration to their diagnosis but that’s to show that Down Syndrome does not always mean ‘preventative’ and exclusion, surely…that would just be very defeatist and hopeless for someone to aspire to be part of such a show…I also read an article yesterday, which referred to what it felt was the person who showed the least dance skill in the small segment of opening show…/..I won’t say who it was and it was just a media article but who it wasn’t was Ellie…but maybe that person was ‘box ticked’ as well…there are many boxes ticked for many reasons of drawing attention and viewers to the show…to this show and all other reality shows…boxes are ticked every day and in every way, as they say…it’s unfair to single out a condition/disability in my opinion…but if Ellie’s dancing progression and ability has her going home, then that’s fair…that’s the voting choice…

[Ammi]

…when it’s said that someone is ‘box ticked’ it takes away their whole individuality and identity and ability and potential etc and just places a label on them…I can’t imagine any of us would want that for ourselves…

[Vanessa]

Dani has had to pull out. She broke her ankle

[Mystic Mock]

i mean Ellie Simmonds was also treated like that by the judges, but did she win, NOPE, not even close to the final, or the semi finals for that matter


and Susan Calman also got treated like that by producers, i mean her ''wonder woman'' cha cha



i love Ellie Goldstein's enthusiasm, and even if she is just doing something on the dancefloor, she still is doing more than the Widdebeast :fan: whom got to the semi's by just sitting down and getting dragged around week by week :joker:



and in terms of Thomas, he should take inspiration from the likes of John Sergeant, Ed Balls both of whom were good triers, despite limited technical abilities, even a Nick Knowles last year gave it a good go, despite hampered with an injury and one who also didn't quit




and in terms of La Voix, well i don't like every single drag queen out there, but La Voix kinda has that same-ish oldschool vibe like Dame Edna had (rest her soul)

She finished 10th, which still means that she beat five other people in the competition.

And with the way Strictly works, we will never know where she placed in the public vote on the night she left, due to the leaderboard.

Basically if that's the least popular disabled contestant that's ever been on Strictly, then it's much better than what other demographics have received on Strictly over the years.

[Mystic Mock]

…so disabilities are segregated and delegated to a separate show and what is essentially an entertainment show….?…and also on an entertainment show that some with disabilities have progressed well in, in the past…I don’t agree at all, I think there are lots of ‘tick boxes’ with chosen celebrities…maybe some are chosen and asked to take part with consideration to their diagnosis but that’s to show that Down Syndrome does not always mean ‘preventative’ and exclusion, surely…that would just be very defeatist and hopeless for someone to aspire to be part of such a show…I also read an article yesterday, which referred to what it felt was the person who showed the least dance skill in the small segment of opening show…/..I won’t say who it was and it was just a media article but who it wasn’t was Ellie…but maybe that person was ‘box ticked’ as well…there are many boxes ticked for many reasons of drawing attention and viewers to the show…to this show and all other reality shows…boxes are ticked every day and in every way, as they say…it’s unfair to single out a condition/disability in my opinion…but if Ellie’s dancing progression and ability has her going home, then that’s fair…that’s the voting choice…

In an ideal world I would agree with you.

But unfortunately the judges, production, and the public have shown a very clear bias towards the contestants with disabilities over recent years, which isn't fair to the other contestants imo.

And I understand your point that everyone on the Show is a box tick in one way or another, but I would also argue that those other demographics aren't given unofficial immunity until the top 10 (if we go by Ellie Simmunds a few years ago) which as someone that loves the competition aspect of the Show, it does ruin my enjoyment a little bit to see a contestant getting votes regardless of their performances or their personality.

[Mystic Mock]

But basically a disabled version of the Show I think would be fun to watch.

I would be up for watching it anyway.

[Ammi]

But basically a disabled version of the Show I think would be fun to watch.

I would be up for watching it anyway.

…we’ll agree to disagree or we’ll just disagree, Mock…but then my world and experiences are probably very different in knowing and having worked with some Down Syndrome children who have been part of mainstream schooling and not special schooling ….and knowing how much they can flourish in that environment …and this isn’t comparable to something like a competitive sport/competition…it is primarily an entertainment show and as I say, there have been ‘boxes ticked’ with everyone chosen, I would say…interestingly I saw one article, which I only read the first few sentences of …but it was analysing the small opening show/celebrity dancers and the one that it felt was the ‘least skilled dancer’ from that small section, wasn’t Ellie…the person it was definitely could be said to be a box ticker as well, just different categories of boxes ticked…

….anyway, as I say…Ellie is my sweepstake and I’ll champion her until she’s voted off …:love:…

[Mystic Mock]

…we’ll agree to disagree or we’ll just disagree, Mock…but then my world and experiences are probably very different in knowing and having worked with some Down Syndrome children who have been part of mainstream schooling and not special schooling ….and knowing how much they can flourish in that environment …and this isn’t comparable to something like a competitive sport/competition…it is primarily an entertainment show and as I say, there have been ‘boxes ticked’ with everyone chosen, I would say…interestingly I saw one article, which I only read the first few sentences of …but it was analysing the small opening show/celebrity dancers and the one that it felt was the ‘least skilled dancer’ from that small section, wasn’t Ellie…the person it was definitely could be said to be a box ticker as well, just different categories of boxes ticked…

….anyway, as I say…Ellie is my sweepstake and I’ll champion her until she’s voted off …:love:…

That's completely fair Ammi.

And for all that I'm saying, I did personally dislike two people (at least) more than I did Ellie on Launch Night.

So whilst I am personally just very fatigued with the bias towards disabled contestants on Strictly, I am still trying to judge her as an individual.

I do feel though that she's going to struggle on the Show to follow the dances.

[Ammi]

That's completely fair Ammi.

And for all that I'm saying, I did personally dislike two people (at least) more than I did Ellie on Launch Night.

So whilst I am personally just very fatigued with the bias towards disabled contestants on Strictly, I am still trying to judge her as an individual.

I do feel though that she's going to struggle on the Show to follow the dances.

…I guess that I’m just very fatigued as well but with different aspects…/…we’re just two old fatigues … box ticking is such a label that takes away all identity and individuality from someone…and if it did/does apply…?…then I absolutely believe that it applies to every celebrity from every season, it’s just all different boxes that are ticked is all and all different levels of dance ability, also…and all to create a blended entertainment show…and as well as dance skills/progression…?…different aspects of each personality and celebrity will vary in their appeal to individual viewers/public members…that’s the way of the world ….

[Mystic Mock]

…I guess that I’m just very fatigued as well but with different aspects…/…we’re just two old fatigues … box ticking is such a label that takes away all identity and individuality from someone…and if it did/does apply…?…then I absolutely believe that it applies to every celebrity from every season, it’s just all different boxes that are ticked is all and all different levels of dance ability, also…and all to create a blended entertainment show…and as well as dance skills/progression…?…different aspects of each personality and celebrity will vary in their appeal to individual viewers/public members…that’s the way of the world ….

I understand what you're saying, but I honestly do believe that the disabled contestants have been pushed by the production of Strictly more than any other demographic in recent times imo.

Regardless of what ends up happening with Ellie.

[Ammi]

I understand what you're saying, but I honestly do believe that the disabled contestants have been pushed by the production of Strictly more than any other demographic in recent times imo.

Regardless of what ends up happening with Ellie.

…I did follow a lot of the season that Rose Ayling-Ellis won…obviously in dance/music, she had a huge disability…she was though, the most skilled dancer imo…that’s all I know, really…I don’t feel that disabilities should be excluded from an entertainment show and can show great talent also, as much as anyone…

[Mystic Mock]

…I did follow a lot of the season that Rose Ayling-Ellis won…obviously in dance/music, she had a huge disability…she was though, the most skilled dancer imo…that’s all I know, really…I don’t feel that disabilities should be excluded from an entertainment show and can show great talent also, as much as anyone…

I would argue that AJ & John were much more versatile than Rose in that year in my view.

[Nicky91]

the week 1 songs and dances

Karen and Carlos - Jive to One Way or Another by Blondie
Vicky and Kai - Cha Cha Cha to Best Of My Love by Ella Eyre
Alex and Johannes - Viennese Waltz to Cry Me a River by Michael Buble
Chris and Nadiya - Samba go Unbelievable by EMF
Ellie and Vito - Cha Cha Cha to yes, and? by Ariana Grande
Jimmy and Lauren - Quickstep to Chelsea Dagger by The Fratellis
La Voix and Aljaz - American Smooth to Pink Pony Club by Chappell Roan
Ross and Jowita - Cha Cha Cha to California Gurls by Katy Perry
Stefan and Dianne - Foxtrot to Neighbours Theme by Barry Crocker
Lewis and Katya - Jive to Get Ready by The Temptations
George and Alexis - American Smooth to Stargazing by Myles Smith
Thomas and Amy - Paso Doble to Better Without Honor or Humanity by Hotei
Harry and Karen - Cha Cha Cha to Push It by Salt n Pepa
Balvinder and Julian - Samba to (Shake Shake Shake) Shake Your Booty by KC & The Sunshine Band



so we got 9 men, 5 women split

[Nicky91]

the top 3 in week 1 i predict

Ellie & Vito

Alex & Johannes

Lewis & Katya



the bottom 3 in week 1 i predict

Thomas & Amy (LOL him getting simon rimmer'd :fan:)

Jimmy & Lauren

Chris & Nadiya (one foot out of the competition with that questionable trash music choice :joker:)

[Nicky91]

but shame on those producers for putting poor Stefan in the comedy duffer category with that neighbours theme

:idc: :rolleyes:




Jimmy stitched up with a song which has ''chelsea'' in it, similar trash music choice :rolleyes:

[Nicky91]

could still see there being a replacement, but only the reveal done live in tomorrow's show, something sensational for the media tabloids as well


but i was always expecting the replacement not to show up in the songs and dances list, which would've been too random, and a replacement deserves a bit more attention than just randomly being placed in there


also adds up to Nikita's low profile on social media, not commenting even about Dani's withdrawal, either he is too much in shock about her injury, or being told by production to keep a low profile, for the big surprise to the public



Tillie Amartey's response to the media at a gala, ''i would never say no to strictly'' felt rehearsed that sort of comment :laugh: not exactly a denial, but no confirmation either, just a neutral scripted comment

[Strictly Jake]

Amber Davies is replacing Dani! She already has a lot of dance skill which with her performing like tomorrow will help her to learn fast!

[Nicky91]

Amber Davies is replacing Dani! She already has a lot of dance skill which with her performing like tomorrow will help her to learn fast!

yes Amber with Nikita, they will be doing a waltz tomorrow, but not known yet which music choice

[Strictly Jake]

yes Amber with Nikita, they will be doing a waltz tomorrow, but not known yet which music choice

That's some very fast learning to have to do though. Mind you shes more than capable

[Nicky91]

That's some very fast learning to have to do though. Mind you shes more than capable

for all we know, they have been rehearsing behind closed doors this entire week?


considering Dani got the injury on friday, while her announcement was just on tuesday

[Livia]

Replacing Dani with yet another trained dancer who the judges will push through to the end when the public will vote them off. What's the point?

[Nicky91]

Replacing Dani with yet another trained dancer who the judges will push through to the end when the public will vote them off. What's the point?

as long as Amber will be the one to take vile ringer Lewis in a shock halloween dance off, i'm okay with it


:D

[Barry.]

as long as Amber will be the one to take vile ringer Lewis in a shock halloween dance off, i'm okay with it


:D

I read that wrong but you’ll be a Lewis fan by tomorrow

[Mystic Mock]

as long as Amber will be the one to take vile ringer Lewis in a shock halloween dance off, i'm okay with it


:D

What's Lewis done wrong?:laugh:

[Vanessa]

Replacing Dani with yet another trained dancer who the judges will push through to the end when the public will vote them off. What's the point?

Yes. They could have them start on week 2.
But Amber is already a dancer.

[Vanessa]

Amber is a trained dancer. Probably more of a ringer that Lewis is. Will take the hear off him. Thank you :joker:

[Nicky91]

Amber is a trained dancer. Probably more of a ringer that Lewis is. Will take the hear off him. Thank you :joker:

Lewis done Billy Elliot musical though, which is literally about a boy who becomes a ballet dancer


i reckon that ballet training will help Lewis for this weeks Jive, same way it helped Karim for his Jive :laugh:

[Nicky91]

i already can't wait for what Amber and Nikita will bring to the shows


she seems lovely too, and honestly musical theatre experience isn't latin and ballroom experience, it only helps you in terms of performing/selling a routine



and comparing musical theatre's, i wouldn't say Lewis won't get any heat, like Billy Elliot is a musical about dancing


anyway Amber is well respected by many west end colleagues as well, because besides her own west end career, she also does interview some of her colleagues on her youtube channel



i'm hoping for a mid table position tonight for her, after 2 days of training for the waltz




pretty sure Lewis, Ellie, Alex will be in the top 3, i am confident about Ellie's cha cha because Vito is a phenomenal latin dancer and teacher, and JoJo is a new king of ballroom out of the current pro's he'll glide Alex through that as long as she trusts him fully

[Nicky91]

but jeez louise, who cares about trained dancers, be glad not all 15 contestants are duffers, that would be so boring anyway


and i'm never against theatre ringers, and no, sorry i won't be too harsh on Lewis, okay, he has done nothing wrong to me, but please from the bottom of my heart, don't be too nasty on Amber either then? they are more or less quite evenly matched



btw Lewis, was judged by Aston on Got to Dance in 2013, where Lewis finished as runner up


so if there are people who want to be critical of Amber, they need to do the same for Lewis, and otherwise just ignore the experience

[Livia]

A couple of years ago Layton Williams, who was also was a dancer in Billy Elliot, was pushed through every week while non-dancers who were improving week on week were sent home by the judges. Tasha Ghouri, who studied dance at uni, was pushed through to the end. Ashley Roberts, a dancer since she was a child and whose mother owns a dancing school, made the final. But none of them ever win because the final say is ours, not the judges', and the public won't allow cheats to win. Not sure why the BBC doesn't get that and continue to slip in these already-trained dancers every year.

[Nicky91]

oh Livia :idc: just like who you like most, i reckon Ross might be your cup of tea tbh


California Gurls by Katy Perry also is kinda perfect for a cha cha cha, and we can trust Jowita to sell it well, if she even had a crowdpleaser cha cha to i'm too sexy at Blackpool with Pete last year



Ross also in my opinion has that ''chill dad'' vibe going for him



Jimmy and Lauren, i trust Lauren to make something out of him, like the wonders she worked on Krishnan, and a quickstep is a decent week 1 dance for a novice, like we saw how well Dan Walker of all people did



yes the final is for the public, but including these ringers creates a more competitive final, more competitive performances so to speak





anyway Alex & Johannes their team name is JoKing :D

[Livia]

oh Livia :idc: just like who you like most, i reckon Ross might be your cup of tea tbh


California Gurls by Katy Perry also is kinda perfect for a cha cha cha, and we can trust Jowita to sell it well, if she even had a crowdpleaser cha cha to i'm too sexy at Blackpool with Pete last year



Ross also in my opinion has that ''chill dad'' vibe going for him



Jimmy and Lauren, i trust Lauren to make something out of him, like the wonders she worked on Krishnan, and a quickstep is a decent week 1 dance for a novice, like we saw how well Dan Walker of all people did



yes the final is for the public, but including these ringers creates a more competitive final, more competitive performances so to speak





anyway Alex & Johannes their team name is JoKing :D


It's a dance competition. I feel how I feel about it and so, the evidence shows us, does the British public. Otherwise one of the cheating trained dancers from past shows would have won.

[Nicky91]

It's a dance competition. I feel how I feel about it and so, the evidence shows us, does the British public. Otherwise one of the cheating trained dancers from past shows would have won.

''cheating''

it ain't cheating hun :idc: as if West End and Strictly are the same, but okay Amber is trained in Tap, Ballet, Modern Dance and Contemporary, same dance training Dani Dyer also has btw but no one complained regarding that about Dani :rolleyes: oh wait, because Dani is a mum and a footballer's wife, that makes her more relatable obviously UGH


the west end musical theatre experience, is more helpful in terms of selling a performance, performing in front of the audience (Stefan Dennis also has quite some experience at musical theatre, one of which Aladdin)

[Livia]

''cheating''

it ain't cheating hun :idc: as if West End and Strictly are the same, but okay Amber is trained in Tap, Ballet, Modern Dance and Contemporary, same dance training Dani Dyer also has btw but no one complained regarding that about Dani :rolleyes: oh wait, because Dani is a mum and a footballer's wife, that makes her more relatable obviously UGH


the west end musical theatre experience, is more helpful in terms of selling a performance, performing in front of the audience (Stefan Dennis also has quite some experience at musical theatre, one of which Aladdin)

You really do overuse the coffee emoji.... And please stop calling me hun.

This is all your opinion. I understand that. Try to do the same for me. Thanks.

[Nicky91]

Amber & Nikita: Waltz to When We Were Young by Adele

[Nicky91]

the show tonight starts at 6:55


opening dance includes the judges :)

[Barry.]

A couple of years ago Layton Williams, who was also was a dancer in Billy Elliot, was pushed through every week while non-dancers who were improving week on week were sent home by the judges. Tasha Ghouri, who studied dance at uni, was pushed through to the end. Ashley Roberts, a dancer since she was a child and whose mother owns a dancing school, made the final. But none of them ever win because the final say is ours, not the judges', and the public won't allow cheats to win. Not sure why the BBC doesn't get that and continue to slip in these already-trained dancers every year.

Don’t forget Debbie McGee.

[Nicky91]

Don’t forget Debbie McGee.

she's a national treasure though

[Livia]

Don’t forget Debbie McGee.

Yes, I had forgotten her. And years before she took part, there was a DVD out called Ballroom Dancing with Angela Rippon.

[Nicky91]

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this version from Get Ready especially :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Barry.]

Yes, I had forgotten her. And years before she took part, there was a DVD out called Ballroom Dancing with Angela Rippon.

Yes I forgot about Angela Rippon. As you said, none of the experience dancers end up winning the show. The public do make good choices

[arista]

Good it is Live BBC1HD 6:55PM

[arista]

Good it is Live BBC1HD 6:55PM

Live Now

[Barry.]

The story of Anton I guess

[Vanessa]

And we're back. I've really missed it :dance:

[Barry.]

Oh I love this song

[Vanessa]

:dance:

[Barry.]

Did he say zac efron? No babes no

[Barry.]

Umm that was something I guess..

[Barry.]

What’s Shirley talking about?

[Vanessa]

Dear God. As stiff as a board

[Barry.]

Dear God. As stiff as a board

I give him a 3

[Barry.]

Why did they give up the phoning? How will the over 70s vote?

[Vanessa]

Where's the Viennese waltz? Not enough dance content.

[arista]

Alex did not do enough

[Barry.]

I thought she was ok, the drama was there though

[Vanessa]

That's more like it. Harry has a lot of potential

[Barry.]

I liked Harry’s

[arista]

Motsi is the worst Judge
by the things she says


Keepin' This Real.

[Barry.]

Is she getting mollycuddled by the judges?

[Vanessa]

Wow Lewis was absolutely brilliant

[arista]

Wow Lewis was absolutely brilliant


Yes a Winner

[arista]

Ross King - Did not do enough

Another failed dance

[Vanessa]

Lovely from George. He could be the dark horse

[arista]

Vicky a bag of Nerves

[Shaun]

brb just rewinding George's dance to inspect the quality of his trousers :ninja2:

[arista]

brb just rewinding George's dance to inspect the quality of his trousers :ninja2:


Another dancer who is not doing enough


Keepin' It Real

[Vanessa]

Great quickstep. Loved it

[Shaun]

I missed a bit because a gas engineer came round to sort out the boiler, but from what I've seen my favourites are Jimmy, Alex, George, La Voix and Stefan at the moment. Ross and Chris look like surefire first two boots.

[arista]

I missed a bit because a gas engineer came round to sort out the boiler, but from what I've seen my favourites are Jimmy, Alex, George, La Voix and Stefan at the moment. Ross and Chris look like surefire first two boots.


Good Call, Shaun.

[Barry.]

That was funny

[arista]

Harry Aikines-Aryeetey,
Alex Kingston,
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink,
Balvinder Sopal,
George Clarke,
La Voix,
Chris Robshaw,
Ellie Goldstein,
Thomas Skinner,
Vicky Pattison,
Stefan Dennis,
Ross King,
Karen Carney,
Lewis Cope,
and
Amber Davies.


There names
Amber replaced Dani

[Shaun]

I understand it must be daunting to cover Adele but this singer is barely trying :unsure:

Idk this dancer but she seems frightfully dull. I liked Harry, didn't mind Tom.

[arista]

Best Dancer this week

30-Year-old Lewis Cope

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[Shaun]

I missed him but isn't he a trained dancer already :suspect: hopefully he's interesting as well because it's hard to root for someone like that

[Ammi]

…Karen Carney was fabulous…:love:..

[Shaun]

I missed a bit but she seemed great, surprised as I thought she'd be clunky and awkward like most of the ex-footballers :laugh: must be a male curse :tongue:

[Ammi]

I missed a bit but she seemed great, surprised as I thought she'd be clunky and awkward like most of the ex-footballers :laugh: must be a male curse :tongue:

…yeah, clunky wasn’t one of her moves…:laugh:…they’re a great partnership as well…I don’t generally regularly watch Strictly so I wasn’t familiar with Carlos but wow, he’s mesmerising to watch…

[arista]

I missed him but isn't he a trained dancer already :suspect: hopefully he's interesting as well because it's hard to root for someone like that


From Emmerdale


He got on the judge's desk
and danced


He made more effort than any others

[Vanessa]

I missed him but isn't he a trained dancer already :suspect: hopefully he's interesting as well because it's hard to root for someone like that

So is Amber

[joeysteele]

Amber and Lewis were the best for me tonight.

[Zizu]

…Karen Carney was fabulous…:love:..


I am hoping she stays on the program to the very end … that way we won’t have to tolerate her complete ineptitude as a pundit on our football games


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[Vanessa]

Karen is also dance trained.

[Mystic Mock]

A couple of years ago Layton Williams, who was also was a dancer in Billy Elliot, was pushed through every week while non-dancers who were improving week on week were sent home by the judges. Tasha Ghouri, who studied dance at uni, was pushed through to the end. Ashley Roberts, a dancer since she was a child and whose mother owns a dancing school, made the final. But none of them ever win because the final say is ours, not the judges', and the public won't allow cheats to win. Not sure why the BBC doesn't get that and continue to slip in these already-trained dancers every year.

Tbf, the ringers are only there to help guarantee some good dancing on the Show, because the novices are going to take time to reach a similar standard.

[Mystic Mock]

It's a dance competition. I feel how I feel about it and so, the evidence shows us, does the British public. Otherwise one of the cheating trained dancers from past shows would have won.

Kelvin won his series despite having dance experience.

[Mystic Mock]

brb just rewinding George's dance to inspect the quality of his trousers :ninja2:

:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I am hoping she stays on the program to the very end … that way we won’t have to tolerate her complete ineptitude as a pundit on our football games


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She was really good.

You might just get your wish.:laugh:

[Zizu]

She was really good.

You might just get your wish.:laugh:


It will probably cost me a small fortune in phone votes but if it keeps her away from soccer punditry then it will be worth every penny


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[Mystic Mock]

It will probably cost me a small fortune in phone votes but if it keeps her away from soccer punditry then it will be worth every penny


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There's no phone voting this year.

You have to sign-up to the BBC website to cast your vote.

Or simply login if you already have an account on the BBC website.

Poor Sam, Pete, and Jamie last year.:bawling:

[Ammi]

She was really good.

You might just get your wish.:laugh:

…yeah, she was excellent, Mock…I didn’t get to see all of the dances but of the ones I did see…?…she definitely stood apart as being the best…I did though like Alex and Stefan also for the expression and personality they put into their dances…

[Nicky91]

the final 4 will be

Lewis & Katya
Amber & Nikita
George & Alexis
Jimmy & Lauren



Jimmy even should've been top of the leaderboard tbh, zero gapping in that quickstep hold, phenomenal for a novice :worship:

[Zizu]

They stuck the diminutive little troll right at the back … perfectly understandable …

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[Nicky91]

i doubt Karen will be any good in the ballrooms


she just is good at Jive because she is so tiny and skinny, more tiny skinny women who done well at jive, nothing groundbreaking from Karen last night :joker:


and Carlos's teaching skills can be quite mediocre, we saw with Angela Scanlon :fan: next year he'll be back on the bench anyway once Gorka is back

[Nicky91]

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the start of the winner's journey i reckon


pure DWTS alike quality this routine :flutter:

[Ammi]

They stuck the diminutive little troll right at the back … perfectly understandable …

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…your intense dislike, which often displays as hatred of any women who achieve anything that you disapprove of and that doesn’t fit with your own devised limitations of ‘women’s roles and places’ is becoming very disturbing…as a woman, I’m finding it more and more uncomfortable in its obsession…

[Nicky91]

what has Karen Carney achieved then, when she was gone from the england team, only then the england team became successful ;)

[Zizu]

…your intense dislike, which often displays as hatred of any women who achieve anything that you disapprove of and that doesn’t fit with your own devised limitations of ‘women’s roles and places’ is becoming very disturbing…as a woman, I’m finding it more and more uncomfortable in its obsession…


Well my ‘intense dislike’ only stretches to about 5 women out of a possible 4.01 billion so let’s not get our knickerz in a twist ..


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[Ammi]

Well my ‘intense dislike’ only stretches to about 5 women out of a possible 4.01 billion so let’s not get our knickerz in a twist ..


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…as I say, I find your displayed intense dislike/hatred of women who don’t fit with your own mindset/ideal of them and where they should place themselves within limitations you would prefer, more and more disturbing…as a woman, that’s my prerogative to feel that…so let’s not get our misogyny in a twist…

[Vanessa]

Karen was brilliant, but I just don't like Carlos.
I do like George, but my heart belongs to Lewis.
I like the way he moves a lot. He's like a young Nigel Harman with the showmanship.
And yes Lewis, Amber and Karen are all dance trained. But none of them have done ballroom or Latin before.

[Vanessa]

It will probably cost me a small fortune in phone votes but if it keeps her away from soccer punditry then it will be worth every penny


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She's too of the leader board. Going nowhere.
My Lewis is second. So proud :love:

[Livia]

My favourites were, in no particular order: Karen Carney, Jimmy FH and La Voix, who is just hilarious as well as being a decent dancer.

[Ammi]

…I meant to say that I also liked Vicky Pattison of the dances that I saw../..I didn’t see them all dance…

[Vanessa]

Karen also has danced before, but no mention of that. She's being pushed as a beginner. Which she's not.
It always annoys me when someone who can dance is being shown as a complete beginner.

[Livia]

Karen also has danced before, but no mention of that. She's being pushed as a beginner. Which she's not.
It always annoys me when someone who can dance is being shown as a complete beginner.

What training has she had previously, Ness? Can't find anything on it.

[Vanessa]

It will probably cost me a small fortune in phone votes but if it keeps her away from soccer punditry then it will be worth every penny


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What training has she had previously, Ness? Can't find anything on it.
When she was younger.

[Livia]

When she was younger.

I went to a dancing school when I was a kid, I imagine a lot of girls my age did when they were children.. wouldn't call myself a dancer. It's not like she's danced in the West End.

[Vanessa]

I went to a dancing school when I was a kid, I imagine a lot of girls my age did when they were children.. wouldn't call myself a dancer. It's not like she's danced in the West End.

I think she quit the dancing for football.
So not recent, but she has the basics.
But yes Lewis and Amber have more dancing experience.

[Shaun]

I wouldn't really put her in the same bracket as Lewis since he ostensibly is more trained than her, and is still loosely in that field of work (I assume he does stage shows in addition to the soap stuff).

[Vanessa]

I wouldn't really put her in the same bracket as Lewis since he ostensibly is more trained than her, and is still loosely in that field of work (I assume he does stage shows in addition to the soap stuff).

Agreed

[Ammi]

…I don’t think that Karen has danced professionally in adulthood…I think she did some training in childhood is all, before she diverted to football…I trained in Irish Dancing in childhood but that wouldn’t advantage me in any way as a dancer…but obviously she understands music and movement …as many of them do, I would say…

…she was seriously excellent, tbh ….

[Mystic Mock]

…yeah, she was excellent, Mock…I didn’t get to see all of the dances but of the ones I did see…?…she definitely stood apart as being the best…I did though like Alex and Stefan also for the expression and personality they put into their dances…

Karen put a bit of that extra Bluenose magic into the Jive that we rarely ever see on Strictly.:dance:

And I do agree with you that Alex did a decent effort at the Vienesse Waltz.

[Mystic Mock]

what has Karen Carney achieved then, when she was gone from the england team, only then the england team became successful ;)

She was apart of a successful Birmingham City Women's team.

If I'm not mistaken (as I only casually follow women's Football) but we were a Champions League side when she played for us.

[Zizu]

She was apart of a successful Birmingham City Women's team.

If I'm not mistaken (as I only casually follow women's Football) but we were a Champions League side when she played for us.


Still a pitifully poor level though 10 to 15 years ago .. look how poor the football is nowadays imagine it back when she was playing and they were mainly amateur players

[Mystic Mock]

Still a pitifully poor level though 10 to 15 years ago .. look how poor the football is nowadays imagine it back when she was playing and they were mainly amateur players

Tbf to her, she can only play what was in front of her at the time.

[Zizu]

Tbf to her, she can only play what was in front of her at the time.


Tbf she and her cronies are simply not qualified to critique or criticise premier league or international level players ..

Same applies to me and you .. we love food but that doesn’t make is qualified to critique chefs like Gordon Ramsey or
Marco Pierre White… there are levels for a reason and these women are just box tickers

Keep them working on women’s football and we have no problem


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