[jet]

She can't bear any of her court to have a conversation that she isn't in on. Jale and Kim talking in the pod without her - Steven and Kim sharing a moment without her. Steven looked scared as he pulled away from Kim and explained to Helen what they were doing..
She has to be at the centre of everything. ffs

[MeMyselfAndI]

She has issues. Shes quite funny to watch though

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by jet

She can't bear any of her court to have a conversation that she isn't in on. Jale and Kim talking in the pod without her - Steven and Kim sharing a moment without her. Steven looked scared as he pulled away from Kim and explained to Helen what they were doing..
She has to be at the centre of everything. ffs

If you have a Jury in a court case, you can't have 3 or 4 of them going off into their own little groups and then sabotaging the overall vote. Helen is right to be pissed off. It is meant to be a collective decision.

[ruiphillips]

I wonder how she would cope with an orgie, I'm sure Queen Luisa would give her some tips.

[Northern Monkey]

I'd hate to be her bf,She's got an extremely jealous streak

[Kazanne]

Helen had every right to be there,even she said herself they should all work together.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Verbal

If you have a Jury in a court case, you can't have 3 or 4 of them going off into their own little groups and then sabotaging the overall vote. Helen is right to be pissed off. It is meant to be a collective decision.

It's not a jury, though, is it?
How did Helen know what they were talking about - they could have been chatting about anything.
Her 'court' are only her court because they are all scared of her. They can't even have a convo now that she isn't making a big deal of it.
Steven nearly **** himself when she gave him a dirty look and was falling over himself to placate her. Pathetic.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by jet

It's not a jury, though, is it?
How did Helen know what they were talking about - they could have been chatting about anything.
Her 'court' are only her court because they are all scared of her. They can't even have a convo now that she isn't making a big deal of it.
Steven nearly **** himself when she gave him a dirty look and was falling over himself to placate her. Pathetic.

It is a group of people who have to come together to make a decision, so for all intents and purposes, a Jury is exactly what they are supposed to be. Helen is the only one who is willing to work together and they are pushing her out. Yet she's the bitch. Right.

[smeagol]

helen is scum lets all agree and move on.

hopefuly she will be chucked out soon . i just hope its not before danielle goes psycho and decks her

[jet]

Originally Posted by Verbal

It is a group of people who have to come together to make a decision, so for all intents and purposes, a Jury is exactly what they are supposed to be. Helen is the only one who is willing to work together and they are pushing her out. Yet she's the bitch. Right.

Of course she's the bitch. Haven't you noticed?
Kim and Jale wouldn't have discussed it between themselves if they weren't afraid of her and her big gob.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Verbal

If you have a Jury in a court case, you can't have 3 or 4 of them going off into their own little groups and then sabotaging the overall vote. Helen is right to be pissed off. It is meant to be a collective decision.

But Helen doesn't WANT a collective decision, she just wants Jale and Kim to back her up. I'd agree with you if she really did want to make a fair decision including all five girls' input, but she's just pissed off that Kim and Jale aren't constantly up her arse

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Verbal

If you have a Jury in a court case, you can't have 3 or 4 of them going off into their own little groups and then sabotaging the overall vote. Helen is right to be pissed off. It is meant to be a collective decision.

But the girls were doing other things like sharing a bath and having a bit of a natter it wasn't about the decisions. Kim said so herself. Helen is a selfish cow and because two of her so called followers wanted a bit of time on their own she couldn't hack it. What she said when Steven was saying he was teaching Kim to hug was uncalled for. Catty bitch.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

But Helen doesn't WANT a collective decision, she just wants Jale and Kim to back her up. I'd agree with you if she really did want to make a fair decision including all five girls' input, but she's just pissed off that Kim and Jale aren't constantly up her arse

NONE of them want a collective decision, so why are you making Helen out to be the worst one? They've just showed on BBBOTS the 4 of them basically deciding and saying well it's tough, she'll have to agree now cos its 4 against 1. Helen is the one being bullied by those hell hounds.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Verbal

NONE of them want a collective decision, so why are you making Helen out to be the worst one? They've just showed on BBBOTS the 4 of them basically deciding and saying well it's tough, she'll have to agree now cos its 4 against 1. Helen is the one being bullied by those hell hounds.

I know none of them do, it's just because this thread is about how Helen was going mad because she wasn't "in the loop". You said Helen has a right to be pissed off because it's meant to be a collective decision, but she doesn't want a collective decision anyway. I'd have said the same thing if any of the other four girls acted like Helen did

[Samwell]

Her soul is broken because of the prostituting. Kimberly was really classy about this.

[Jords]

Helen is the very definition of attention-seeking. If she isnt the centre of it, shes unhappy and demands it and atm she gets it every time in that house.

Why Kim didnt just tell her to DO ONE tonight beats me

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

It is a group of people who have to come together to make a decision, so for all intents and purposes, a Jury is exactly what they are supposed to be. Helen is the only one who is willing to work together and they are pushing her out. Yet she's the bitch. Right.

They don't need to be together 24/7 discussing it though, they are allowed to be a part, have a bath if they want a bath etc

[Josy]

I don't think she was even bothered about the girl power thing, she's scared she's going to be isolated by the girls IMO I know it's an assumption but I'm going by what Helen said herself on the HL's, she knows if Ashleigh and Danielle had a chance they would have Jale and Kim with them in the pod and have her sitting alone and I think it's true.

Also Steven and Kim looked so worried because Helen made a snidey remark about Kim, they are hardly scared of being close when she's not there, they go off into a quiet area alone at night and spend their time whispering and cuddling according to the twitter feed, not that we are ever shown though.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They don't need to be together 24/7 discussing it though, they are allowed to be a part, have a bath if they want a bath etc

I didn't say they had to be together 24/7. They had to be together to make a decision as a group. Which didn't happen. Helen was 'ostrich sized' thank you Mark.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't think she was even bothered about the girl power thing, she's scared she's going to be isolated by the girls IMO I know it's an assumption but I'm going by what Helen said herself on the HL's, she knows if Ashleigh and Danielle had a chance they would have Jale and Kim with them in the pod and have her sitting alone and I think it's true.

Also Steven and Kim looked so worried because Helen made a snidey remark about Kim, they are hardly scared of being close when she's not there, they go off into a quiet area alone at night and spend their time whispering and cuddling according to the twitter feed, not that we are ever shown though.

I just can't have any sympathy for her though after the way she was towards some of the girls when she had Tamara, Pauline and Toya (before she switched sides) in her crew. She's only bothered now because all the girls she invested in are gone and the ones she liked to pick on and ostracize are the only ones left. It was all her own doing and I can't feel sorry for her now because she wouldn't give a damn about Jale if she hadn't been warned and her group of girls were still there.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I didn't say they had to be together 24/7. They had to be together to make a decision as a group. Which didn't happen. Helen was 'ostrich sized' thank you Mark.

But she was complaining because Jale and Kim had a bath together and because they were having a laugh in the pod.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I just can't have any sympathy for her though after the way she was towards some of the girls when she had Tamara, Pauline and Toya (before she switched sides) in her crew. She's only bothered now because all the girls she invested in are gone and the ones she liked to pick on and ostracize are the only ones left. It was all her own doing and I can't feel sorry for her now because she wouldn't give a damn about Jale if she hadn't been warned and her group of girls were still there.

Well said!

She deliberately ostracized Jale.
Jale and Kim were just having some time together. They aren't whispering and laughing about her while she sits alone within earshot, or calling her a slug and picking on her and mocking her. It's laughable that anyone could feel sorry for Helen because the girls had a bath and a chat without her.

She wasn't even on her own - she always sits with the boys and doesn't bother that much with the girls normally anyway.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Well said!

She deliberately ostracized Jale.
Jale and Kim were just having some time together. They aren't whispering and laughing about her while she sits alone within earshot, or calling her a slug and picking on her and mocking her. It's laughable that anyone could feel sorry for Helen because the girls had a bath and a chat without her.

She wasn't even on her own - she always sits with the boys and doesn't bother that much with the girls normally anyway.

[Kizzy]

If it's helen calling all the shots why is her fave ash the only one not safe? kim got steve, dashleigh got chris and jale got marlon.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If it's helen calling all the shots why is her fave ash the only one not safe? kim got steve, dashleigh got chris and jale got marlon.

She was calling the shots until Queen Ashleigh took the reigns from her