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Old 15-11-2023, 09:22 AM #1
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I don't!
She's been quite nasty when her crew was there. Stealing the booze first chance they get.
Now her friends are gone she's playing nice
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I actually do
If you look at Tom and jenkin’s dramatic change towards Jordan while in the secret room you can see how it’s possible
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If you look at Tom and jenkin’s dramatic change towards Jordan while in the secret room you can see how it’s possible
Yeah exactly, it's perfectly natural for people's perceptions and opinions to change across the course of six weeks especially as you're forced to spend more time with other housemates and when you've had a chance to reflect on what's happened

Even when Olivia was at her worst she came close to self awareness. I remember her wondering the night after Paul's eviction 'are they delusional or are we delusional' while everyone else in her group were like 'nah we're definitely not delusional'
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Yeah exactly, it's perfectly natural for people's perceptions and opinions to change across the course of six weeks especially as you're forced to spend more time with other housemates and when you've had a chance to reflect on what's happened

Even when Olivia was at her worst she came close to self awareness. I remember her wondering the night after Paul's eviction 'are they delusional or are we delusional' while everyone else in her group were like 'nah we're definitely not delusional'
Agreed. I've said it time and time again, people SHOULD evolve and change during the span of spending every waking day for 6 weeks with the same group of people. Olivia is someone who we have openly seen reflect upon and apologize for her wrong doings - in ways that no one else has. It's worth giving credit for.
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I actually do
If you look at Tom and jenkin’s dramatic change towards Jordan while in the secret room you can see how it’s possible

That was mainly due to seeing Olivia morph into a supposedly nice , caring, happy person the moment they’d been removed.
They weren’t impressed at all with her happy singing and dancing then being able to observe her turncoat behaviour for 2 days !

Tom pointedly said “ I don’t understand .. there’s always been tears and sadness when someone has left but just look at her ! “

As soon as her two crutches had been removed and she knew she had to quickly integrate in with the others to have a chance of getting the cash


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As you lose housemates you have to adapt to stay in. This is what Olivia is doing, and what Noky and others have also done.
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Yeah I buy it. I'm a glass half full kinda hombre. She also legitimately physically looks happier and softer. Basic physiological signs of somebody being more at ease and enjoying themselves.

It's really easy to fall into the atmosphere and narrative of what's essentially a synthetic environment as a viewer, let alone as someone living in there.

We endlessly analyse and take sides - it's part of the fun - but every year without fail you know what these guys do after the final? Get smashed at the wrap party together, laugh it off, and get along.
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More like get together, get drunk and talk about Toxic Trish who won't be there.
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I buy it, there has always been glimpses of this side of her. She is not a bad person and I agreed with what she said yesterday, she does seem to be able to admit when she has it wrong.
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Olivia has always talked to the whole house.
When she was with the garden gang she joined in their antics, I found her loud and too sweary.
But she has a good heart and a great capacity to enjoy herself.
She would make a decent winner.
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I actually do
If you look at Tom and jenkin’s dramatic change towards Jordan while in the secret room you can see how it’s possible
Olivia saw what was coming a little sooner than the two morons, Psycho Tom and Jerkin' Jenkin, who sought to atone for theis sins and ingratiate themselves with the public, by elevating Jordan to "best pal status" in the spare room.
Olivia is simply a little more astute than the two run-of-the mill idiots who
shared digs with Jordan. It doesn't make her Mother Theresa. A career in Glaswegian slapperdom still beckons.
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Olivia has always talked to the whole house.

When she was with the garden gang she joined in their antics, I found her loud and too sweary.

But she has a good heart and a great capacity to enjoy herself.

She would make a decent winner.





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Yeah I buy it. I'm a glass half full kinda hombre. She also legitimately physically looks happier and softer. Basic physiological signs of somebody being more at ease and enjoying themselves.

It's really easy to fall into the atmosphere and narrative of what's essentially a synthetic environment as a viewer, let alone as someone living in there.

We endlessly analyse and take sides - it's part of the fun - but every year without fail you know what these guys do after the final? Get smashed at the wrap party together, laugh it off, and get along.
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I buy it, there has always been glimpses of this side of her. She is not a bad person and I agreed with what she said yesterday, she does seem to be able to admit when she has it wrong.

She doesn’t talk/ listen to who’s she’s speaking to though .. she just preaches in that annoyingly patronising tone


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She was doing my head in on live feed. Droning on and on about the same thing.
Just let it go!
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I don't really think she's changed that much? I think there's just different sides of her and she's very opinionated/loud/feisty but she's also a caring/genuine/nice girl which hasn't really been shown as much probably based on the divide in the house and the things that have happened haven't really allowed her to show that side so often
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I don't really think she's changed that much? I think there's just different sides of her and she's very opinionated/loud/feisty but she's also a caring/genuine/nice girl which hasn't really been shown as much probably based on the divide in the house and the things that have happened haven't really allowed her to show that side so often

“ Matty , Matty have you got a drink .. do you want one , are you sure , hen ? “

That was Olivia fawning over Matty last night

This is the same individual who’s been grabbing and stashing the majority of the booze and oh so important goodies from these very same people for the last 5 weeks


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“ Matty , Matty have you got a drink .. do you want one , are you sure , hen ? “

That was Olivia fawning over Matty last night

This is the same individual who’s been grabbing and stashing the majority of the booze and oh so important goodies from these very same people for the last 5 weeks


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I just think the house dynamic changed so much since Chanelle and Trish left.They seem to be a lot more laid back and relaxed. I don't like Olivia, but she has changed since those two left.
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I just think the house dynamic changed so much since Chanelle and Trish left.They seem to be a lot more laid back and relaxed. I don't like Olivia, but she has changed since those two left.
I definitely did.
But listening to her on live feed she's very keen to distance herself from Paul and co
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…I don’t think that it is a personality change as such because this is Olivia as we first knew her in the house…just a very relatable person and a song for everything…?…the Olivia we see now is more that person, so beginning to find herself again/as opposed to changing …and it’s less sudden and more as the house gets smaller and the chaos become less and she’s looking back on in reflection…?…
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…I don’t think that it is a personality change as such because this is Olivia as we first knew her in the house…just a very relatable person and a song for everything…?…the Olivia we see now is more that person, so beginning to find herself again/as opposed to changing …and it’s less sudden and more as the house gets smaller and the chaos become less and she’s looking back on in reflection…?…
She seems very worried on live feed.
Not keen on her, but at least she's not boring.
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Not keen on her, but at least she's not boring.

She looks constantly on edge simply because she’s playing a part ..


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I definitely did.
But listening to her on live feed she's very keen to distance herself from Paul and co

Pure gameplayer

I’m willing to bet that she drops EVERYONE as soon as she’s out of the house including Paul


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…I don’t think that it is a personality change as such because this is Olivia as we first knew her in the house…just a very relatable person and a song for everything…?…the Olivia we see now is more that person, so beginning to find herself again/as opposed to changing …and it’s less sudden and more as the house gets smaller and the chaos become less and she’s looking back on in reflection…?…

It’s called damage limitation


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