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Beastie · 25-03-2011, 10:32 AM

Should we still be a bit of the EU? (European Union)

Do you think David Cameron should have the balls to say "No". We are not going to be a part of it anymore and waste 50 million a day or whatever it is into it!

I personally think we should stop being a part of the EU. However if this happens I think David Cameron will have a lot of crap and angry people on his hands than what is already happening now!

Still.. there needs to be a change and we need to opt out now.

Iceman · 25-03-2011, 10:34 AM

In for a penny in for a pound.

Princess · 25-03-2011, 10:36 AM

If the UK wasn't part of the EU doesn't that mean other EU residents couldn't live there freely? Yeah that messes with my life plans

Beastie · 25-03-2011, 11:16 AM

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If the UK wasn't part of the EU doesn't that mean other EU residents couldn't live there freely? Yeah that messes with my life plans

I personally think The Republic of Ireland should be part of the UK anyway. They need to change that law first and then scrap being part of the EU.

Niamh. · 25-03-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastie

I personally think The Republic of Ireland should be part of the UK anyway. They need to change that law first and then scrap being part of the EU.

Excuse me? How would you like if I said that ye should part of Germany?

Beastie · 25-03-2011, 11:22 AM

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Excuse me? How would you like if I said that ye should part of Germany?

Germany is not too close to the UK though. France is even closer. I just think the Republic of Ireland is close to the UK. I don't get why it's an island on it's own.

I think England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland AND The Republic of Ireland should reunite as one. And accept each others cultures and differences.

Iceman · 25-03-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastie

Germany is not too close to the UK though. France is even closer. I just think the Republic of Ireland is close to the UK. I don't get why it's an island on it's own.

I think England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland AND The Republic of Ireland should reunite as one. And accept each others cultures and differences.

I dont know if you're being ignorant or just ripping the piss, but get this your ountry isn't the be all and end all.

Niamh. · 25-03-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastie

Germany is not too close to the UK though. France is even closer. I just think the Republic of Ireland is close to the UK. I don't get why it's an island on it's own.

I think England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland AND The Republic of Ireland should reunite as one. And accept each others cultures and differences.

Well, by your logic England is closer to France than it is to Ireland so why don't you all become French?

Iceman · 25-03-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastie

I personally think The Republic of Ireland should be part of the UK anyway. They need to change that law first and then scrap being part of the EU.

What an absolutely idiotic thing to say, WE dont want to be part of your country.

Beastie · 25-03-2011, 11:23 AM

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What an absolutely idiotic thing to say, WE dont want to be part of your country.

Okay :S Maybe I need to read up on some history. I don't get what the bad blood is about.

Iceman · 25-03-2011, 11:24 AM

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Okay :S Maybe I need to read up on some history. I don't get what the bad blood is about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_Laws_%28Ireland%29 Start here and then do Irish History for about 6 years then we'll have a talk about it

Niamh. · 25-03-2011, 11:27 AM

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Okay :S Maybe I need to read up on some history. I don't get what the bad blood is about.

here's a good film for you to watch too :

Spoiler:

Zippy · 25-03-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastie

Okay :S Maybe I need to read up on some history. I don't get what the bad blood is about.

pmsl

they hate us for colonising their country and we hate them for Jedward, Westlife and Louis Walsh. Just to spare you the read.

arista · 25-03-2011, 11:27 AM

No the €uro Rot
should be taken out of us.

We trade Global
including Europe.

karezza · 25-03-2011, 11:36 AM

Germany will withdraw from the evil EU and the whole thing will fall apart.

Beastie · 25-03-2011, 11:39 AM

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Germany will withdraw from the evil EU and the whole thing will fall apart.

Oh. Why will they withdraw first do you think?

karezza · 25-03-2011, 11:41 AM

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Oh. Why will they withdraw first do you think?

They are contributing the most and they face being swamped by Turks.

Beastie · 25-03-2011, 11:44 AM

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They are contributing the most and they face being swamped by Turks.

Oh right. So it's like too many Turkish people are immigrating there. While too many people from all over Europe are immigrating to the UK. Especially England.. which is small.

Grimnir · 25-03-2011, 02:48 PM

If we ever had a referendum like we should have I vote 100% NO.

I would want England to become totally separate from Scotland and Wales, becoming Kingdom of England.
Scotland and Wales become independent countries.
Ireland should be one country too.

England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales all hold on to the donkeys tails

Enid · 25-03-2011, 11:46 AM

Beast, leave the political spiel to people who know politics.

Beastie · 25-03-2011, 11:49 AM

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Beast, leave the political spiel to people who know politics.

Okay. I will. Mankind on the planet is just going to kill each other within the next 100 years anyway.

Enid · 25-03-2011, 11:50 AM

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Okay. I will. Mankind on the planet is just going to kill each other within the next 100 years anyway.

Exactly. Sit back and watch it all unfold.

Beastie · 25-03-2011, 11:51 AM

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Exactly. Sit back and watch it all unfold.

Ooo thanks I must know a bit about politics then

Amen!

MTVN · 25-03-2011, 02:16 PM

Ireland rejoining the UK? Get real, noone in the UK wants that and noone in Ireland wants that, would never happen.

Anyway to answer the question, I support free trade among European countries, and freedom of movement, but I dont support a political and social Union like we have now. The "President" of Europe is some Belgian who noone knows and nobody elected, hardly democratic

Shaun · 25-03-2011, 02:53 PM

The legislative nature of the EU is greatly exaggerated - I saw Nigel Farage on the 10 O Clock Live show claiming they account for about 75% of all of our legislation now - when in fact the real figure is about 30% maximum. The majority of these laws are also quite trivial - agricultural, some small economic laws... not that I wish demean their importance, but I think euro-skeptics try to spread the impression that the EU is about to make us all learn German, French, Italian, Spanish and Polish, whilst surrendering our sovereign independence.

I also think it would be foolish to distance ourselves from it because of the economic benefits. Saying 'fack off' to your biggest next-door trade neighbours would be foolish.

I think generally there's a lot of, dare I say it, xenophobia amongst the English. The Scottish and Welsh generally seem to be in favour of closer European ties, but the English have this "we hate the ______" attitude to pretty much everyone

and it doesn't really help that every other day The Sun is publishing a whole new "OMG EU WANTS US TO TAKE IN 200,000 BULGARIANS" scare story.

Wasn't there a referendum a couple of years ago to see if we'd adopt the Euro? I really don't get what's so "British" about the Pound, it's just a coin with an unelected sponger on it

I guess I'm a bit of a Europhile

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