[bbfan1991]

http://www.thelocal.se/41012/20120524

Good move. I hope the UK follows suit!

[InOne]

Even if the UK followed suit it would still go on. All kept hush hush within the 'community'.

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by InOne

Even if the UK followed suit it would still go on. All kept hush hush within the 'community'.

I agree and I know plenty of people who have had forced marriages, although something clearly needs to be done about things like this...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

I agree and I know plenty of people who have had forced marriages, although something clearly needs to be done about things like this...

Really? That must be awful for them

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

Even if the UK followed suit it would still go on. All kept hush hush within the 'community'.

Yes that stinks

[Niamh.]

The Scandinavians are way ahead of the rest of world

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The Scandinavians are way ahead of the rest of world

Rubbish
they are a Far smaller amount
of people.


And they have Nazi's
ready to Murder Socialists
(Also in Norway)

[Niamh.]

Denmark especially, Danish people are amazing and always happy

http://www.tiptoptens.com/2012/02/07...-to-live-2012/

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Denmark especially, Danish people are amazing and always happy

http://www.tiptoptens.com/2012/02/07...-to-live-2012/

Bit suspect all the countries being European.

[MTVN]

Yeah the Scandinavian countries are great

[Kizzy]

I would of hoped it already was criminal to force a marriage?...

[Shaun]

Scandinavia uber alles.

[lostalex]

oh plz. they are just as ****ed up as the rest of us. ask julian Assange, he used to think they were better too...

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

oh plz. they are just as ****ed up as the rest of us. ask julian Assange, he used to think they were better too...

At least they have the decency to make forced marriages a criminal offense. Everyone else could learn from that.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

At least they have the decency to make forced marriages a criminal offense. Everyone else could learn from that.

I'm pretty sure FORCING anyone to do anything is illegal in the UK. Last time i checked it's a free country.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I'm pretty sure FORCING anyone to do anything is illegal in the UK. Last time i checked it's a free country.

You're a don, Alex. Well done for completely contradicting your own argument. I think you'll find that forced marriage hasn't yet been made illegal in the UK, as has been mentioned in this thread. Go away, learn the lingo, do your research then think about coming back to have an argument.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

You're a don, Alex. Well done for completely contradicting your own argument. I think you'll find that forced marriage hasn't yet been made illegal in the UK, as has been mentioned in this thread. Go away, learn the lingo, do your research then think about coming back to have an argument.

yur lucky I don't report to the mods everytime time someone says something insulting to me, unlike you and some other people around here who have a trigger happy "report" finger and love to get me infractions every 5 seconds for things i say that arn't even half as insulting.

Keep on enjoying your double standards though.

[Samuel.]

lul

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...matrimony-laws

In October last year, David Cameron called for the contentious issue of forced marriage to be the subject of a public consultation, which will conclude at the end of this month. The consultation will decide whether forced marriage should become a criminal offence, punishable by imprisonment. Describing it as "little more than forced slavery" Cameron said we should not shy away from addressing the issue because of "cultural concerns".

Currently, potential victims of forced marriage are protected by civil law. They – or their representatives, such as teachers or social workers – can take out a forced marriage protection order (FMPO). The order lays down conditions that try to change the behaviour of anyone trying to force a person into marriage. But FMPOs are hard to monitor, and there is no automatic sanction for breaking them. Last November, Scotland became the first country in the UK to make breaching the orders a criminal offence and Cameron has pledged to do the same for England, Wales and Northern Ireland. But he has gone further, asking the home secretary to consider making the very act of forced marriage a criminal offence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_...tion)_Act_2007

The Forced Marriage (Civil Protection) Act 2007 (c 20) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. It seeks to assist victims of forced marriage, or those threatened with forced marriage, by providing civil remedies. It extends to England and Wales and Northern Ireland -- it does not extend to Scotland, as this is a devolved competence.

The centrepiece of the Act is the forced marriage order. A person threatened with forced marriage can apply to court for a forced marriage order can contain whatever provisions which the court finds would be appropriate to prevent the forced marriage from taking place, or to protect a victim of forced marriage from its effects, and may include such measures as confiscation of passport or restrictions on contact with the victim. The subject of a forced marriage order can be not just the person to whom the forced marriage will occur, but also any other person who aids, abets or encourages the forced marriage. A marriage can be considered forced not merely on the grounds of threats of physical violence to the victim, but also through threats of physical violence to third parties (e.g. the victim's family), or even self-violence (e.g. marriage procured through threat of suicide.) A person who violates a force marriage order is subject to contempt of court proceedings and may be arrested.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...age-illegal-uk

In 2011, here in Britain, the forcing of women or girls into marriage is a sad reality for thousands of people.

While the prevalence of such practices has come to light in recent years, many myths about forced marriage remain. For example, it is assumed that it is confined to certain religions; but there are Sikh, Muslim, Hindu and Christian victims. Some think forced marriage is a rare practice; but the government estimates up to 8,000 cases a year in the UK. Some assume forced marriage affects only adults; but figures show that more than half are under 16 and some are as young as eight. Some think the victims are solely women; but 14% of complainants are actually men. Some believe it's limited to certain countries; but Brits are being sent to Afghanistan, Egypt, Bangladesh, Iran and Turkey.

For me, there is one overriding myth about forced marriage: that it is illegal. In fact, to coerce, threaten or blackmail someone into matrimony is not in itself a criminal offence.

[lostalex]

Well i think it would be criminal to force someone to marry, i'm assuming some violence or intimidation must be involved to FORCE someone to sign a document against their will. You cannot be married without both parties signature correct?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well i think it would be criminal to force someone to marry, i'm assuming some violence or intimidation must be involved to FORCE someone to sign a document against their will. You cannot be married without both parties signature correct?

The thing is, it isn't criminal over here. Immoral, yes (quite presumably) but most definitely not illegal. What's your opinion has been absolutely crushed to crumbs by statistics, as has been explained to you numerous times on this thread. Here - where we have valid substantiation present to prove and disprove arguments - we have to argue objectively (i.e. as a definite answer), not subjectively (i.e. not as an opinion, e.g. I think voluntary euthanasia is wrong but you're welcome to disagree) and if you cannot comprehend that then I'm not wasting my time arguing with you on this matter.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Redway

The thing is, it isn't criminal over here. Immoral, yes (quite presumably) but most definitely not illegal. What's your opinion has been absolutely crushed to crumbs by statistics, as has been explained to you numerous times on this thread. Here - where we have valid substantiation present to prove and disprove arguments - we have to argue objectively (i.e. as a definite answer), not subjectively (i.e. not as an opinion, e.g. I think voluntary euthanasia is wrong but you're welcome to disagree) and if you cannot comprehend that then I'm not wasting my time arguing with you on this matter.

Yes thanks to New Labour

[Redway]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes thanks to New Labour

It doesn't matter who put the law in action. It's still legal.

[lostalex]

So you are telling me, a man can walk into a british office and violently force a woman to sign a marriage application? and there would be no criminal charges laid against that man?

i don't believe it.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

So you are telling me, a man can walk into a british office and violently force a woman to sign a marriage application? and there would be no criminal charges laid against that man?

i don't believe it.

Well, look, whether or not you believe it, it's true. You can argue about this and take it round the houses all day but it's been proven in black and white. You have to accept that, whether or not you agree with it.