[bbfan1991]

http://www.thelocal.se/41012/20120524

Good move. I hope the UK follows suit!

[InOne]

Even if the UK followed suit it would still go on. All kept hush hush within the 'community'.

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by InOne

Even if the UK followed suit it would still go on. All kept hush hush within the 'community'.

I agree and I know plenty of people who have had forced marriages, although something clearly needs to be done about things like this...

[Niamh.]

The Scandinavians are way ahead of the rest of world

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

I agree and I know plenty of people who have had forced marriages, although something clearly needs to be done about things like this...

Really? That must be awful for them

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

Even if the UK followed suit it would still go on. All kept hush hush within the 'community'.

Yes that stinks

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The Scandinavians are way ahead of the rest of world

Rubbish
they are a Far smaller amount
of people.


And they have Nazi's
ready to Murder Socialists
(Also in Norway)

[Niamh.]

Denmark especially, Danish people are amazing and always happy

http://www.tiptoptens.com/2012/02/07...-to-live-2012/

[MTVN]

Yeah the Scandinavian countries are great

[Kizzy]

I would of hoped it already was criminal to force a marriage?...

[Shaun]

Scandinavia uber alles.

[lostalex]

oh plz. they are just as ****ed up as the rest of us. ask julian Assange, he used to think they were better too...

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

oh plz. they are just as ****ed up as the rest of us. ask julian Assange, he used to think they were better too...

At least they have the decency to make forced marriages a criminal offense. Everyone else could learn from that.

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Denmark especially, Danish people are amazing and always happy

http://www.tiptoptens.com/2012/02/07...-to-live-2012/

Bit suspect all the countries being European.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

At least they have the decency to make forced marriages a criminal offense. Everyone else could learn from that.

I'm pretty sure FORCING anyone to do anything is illegal in the UK. Last time i checked it's a free country.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I'm pretty sure FORCING anyone to do anything is illegal in the UK. Last time i checked it's a free country.

You're a don, Alex. Well done for completely contradicting your own argument. I think you'll find that forced marriage hasn't yet been made illegal in the UK, as has been mentioned in this thread. Go away, learn the lingo, do your research then think about coming back to have an argument.

[Samuel.]

lul

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

You're a don, Alex. Well done for completely contradicting your own argument. I think you'll find that forced marriage hasn't yet been made illegal in the UK, as has been mentioned in this thread. Go away, learn the lingo, do your research then think about coming back to have an argument.

yur lucky I don't report to the mods everytime time someone says something insulting to me, unlike you and some other people around here who have a trigger happy "report" finger and love to get me infractions every 5 seconds for things i say that arn't even half as insulting.

Keep on enjoying your double standards though.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

yur lucky I don't report to the mods everytime time someone says something insulting to me, unlike you and some other people around here who have a trigger happy "report" finger and love to get me infractions every 5 seconds for things i say that arn't even half as insulting.

Keep on enjoying your double standards though.

How do you know I report you? I don't see your name in green anywhere, mate. You made a completely wrong statement and I''m pointing out the truth to you. What is the point of being on an open forum posting away if when someone disagrees with you or knows for an absolute fact you're wrong you do this? I wasn't being insulting - I don't insult people when I argue cases, certainly not over the internet. I just pointed out the truth. And I suppose it's funny that you didn't even attempt a constructive reply to my actual post you quoted because you know I'm right.

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...matrimony-laws

In October last year, David Cameron called for the contentious issue of forced marriage to be the subject of a public consultation, which will conclude at the end of this month. The consultation will decide whether forced marriage should become a criminal offence, punishable by imprisonment. Describing it as "little more than forced slavery" Cameron said we should not shy away from addressing the issue because of "cultural concerns".

Currently, potential victims of forced marriage are protected by civil law. They – or their representatives, such as teachers or social workers – can take out a forced marriage protection order (FMPO). The order lays down conditions that try to change the behaviour of anyone trying to force a person into marriage. But FMPOs are hard to monitor, and there is no automatic sanction for breaking them. Last November, Scotland became the first country in the UK to make breaching the orders a criminal offence and Cameron has pledged to do the same for England, Wales and Northern Ireland. But he has gone further, asking the home secretary to consider making the very act of forced marriage a criminal offence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_...tion)_Act_2007

The Forced Marriage (Civil Protection) Act 2007 (c 20) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. It seeks to assist victims of forced marriage, or those threatened with forced marriage, by providing civil remedies. It extends to England and Wales and Northern Ireland -- it does not extend to Scotland, as this is a devolved competence.

The centrepiece of the Act is the forced marriage order. A person threatened with forced marriage can apply to court for a forced marriage order can contain whatever provisions which the court finds would be appropriate to prevent the forced marriage from taking place, or to protect a victim of forced marriage from its effects, and may include such measures as confiscation of passport or restrictions on contact with the victim. The subject of a forced marriage order can be not just the person to whom the forced marriage will occur, but also any other person who aids, abets or encourages the forced marriage. A marriage can be considered forced not merely on the grounds of threats of physical violence to the victim, but also through threats of physical violence to third parties (e.g. the victim's family), or even self-violence (e.g. marriage procured through threat of suicide.) A person who violates a force marriage order is subject to contempt of court proceedings and may be arrested.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...age-illegal-uk

In 2011, here in Britain, the forcing of women or girls into marriage is a sad reality for thousands of people.

While the prevalence of such practices has come to light in recent years, many myths about forced marriage remain. For example, it is assumed that it is confined to certain religions; but there are Sikh, Muslim, Hindu and Christian victims. Some think forced marriage is a rare practice; but the government estimates up to 8,000 cases a year in the UK. Some assume forced marriage affects only adults; but figures show that more than half are under 16 and some are as young as eight. Some think the victims are solely women; but 14% of complainants are actually men. Some believe it's limited to certain countries; but Brits are being sent to Afghanistan, Egypt, Bangladesh, Iran and Turkey.

For me, there is one overriding myth about forced marriage: that it is illegal. In fact, to coerce, threaten or blackmail someone into matrimony is not in itself a criminal offence.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

How do you know I report you? I don't see your name in green anywhere, mate. You made a completely wrong statement and I''m pointing out the truth to you. What is the point of being on an open forum posting away if when someone disagrees with you or knows for an absolute fact you're wrong you do this? I wasn't being insulting - I don't insult people when I argue cases, certainly not over the internet. I just pointed out the truth. And I suppose it's funny that you didn't even attempt a constructive reply to my actual post you quoted because you know I'm right.

i already replied to you in a "constructive" manner. I said: it is already ILLEGAL for anyone to FORCE someone into marriage in the UK. THAT IS A FACT. are you too much of a "don" to comprehend that?

You were the one that decided to be a total ***** in response, so obviously it's YOU who cannot respond in a mature or "constructive" way.

Forced MARRIAGES ARE ILLEGAL IN EVERY WESTERN COUNTRY. the US, Canada, Australia, UK, all of the EU.... so i don't understand why you are acting like it's impressive that it's illegal in scandanavia. You cannot FORCE anyone to marry someone in ANY western country. that's a FACT. you can't FORCE anyone to do ANYTHING in any free country. That's what makes free countries free.

IF you don't understand that, then poo on you, but don't act like i'm the one who's ignorant.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I said: it is already ILLEGAL for anyone to FORCE someone into marriage in the UK.

Forced MARRIAGES ARE ILLEGAL IN EVERY WESTERN COUNTRY. the US, Canada, Australia, UK, all of the EU.... so i don't understand why you are acting like it's impressive that it's illegal in scandanavia.

From what I've read, forced marriages in the UK (not Scotland) are subject to civil law but not criminal law, so, technically, forced marriage is NOT illegal.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i already replied to you in a "constructive" manner. I said: it is already ILLEGAL for anyone to FORCE someone into marriage in the UK. THAT IS A FACT. are you too much of a "don" to comprehend that?

You were the one that decided to be a total ***** in response, so obviously it's YOU who cannot respond in a mature or "constructive" way.

Forced MARRIAGES ARE ILLEGAL IN EVERY WESTERN COUNTRY. the US, Canada, Australia, UK, all of the EU.... so i don't understand why you are acting like it's impressive that it's illegal in scandanavia. You cannot FORCE anyone to marry someone in ANY western country. that's a FACT. you can't FORCE anyone to do ANYTHING in any free country. That's what makes free countries free.

IF you don't understand that, then poo on you, but don't act like i'm the one who's ignorant.

Alex, you entered an argument without even knowing the facts. You clearly stated that forced marriage is illegal in the UK because we're a free country (and by the way the UK isn't a country - it's made up of countries). I told you that isn't true (and you should have picked that up from the thread as it's been mentioned numerous times). No, it isn't illegal, as I think you'll find. As Omah rightly says, if you are found forcing someone to marry and actually going through with it, you are subject to civil law but not criminal law. Criminal law is the bridge between legal and illegal. As in the UK you're not subject to criminal law as a consequence of forced marriage it therefore isn't illegal over here. Are you too little of a don to understand that?

[Redway]

In fact, for the sake of it, yeah, that's right - I believe it's very impressive that Scandinavia has made forced marriage illegal (because it is - that's a fact, dear). So does everyone else on this thread. Why are you having a go at only me but not them?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

Alex, you entered an argument without even knowing the facts. You clearly stated that forced marriage is illegal in the UK because we're a free country (and by the way the UK isn't a country - it's made up of countries). I told you that isn't true (and you should have picked that up from the thread as it's been mentioned numerous times). No, it isn't illegal, as I think you'll find. As Omah rightly says, if you are found forcing someone to marry and actually going through with it, you are subject to civil law but not criminal law. Criminal law is the bridge between legal and illegal. As in the UK you're not subject to civil law as a consequence of forced marriage it therefore isn't illegal over here. Are you too little of a don to understand that?

No the UK is a single country. What you call countries are called states or provinces in other countries. The UK has 1 single seat at the UN and 1 single team at the olympics, why? because the UK is one single country. If you think england, wales, and scotland are separate countries, well then take it up with the UN, not me.