[Pete.]

Jim Davidson and Linda Nolan have been at loggerheads since they first stepped into the Celebrity Big Brother house and now the reason behind their deep-seated animosity has emerged - Jim allegedly threatened to beat up Linda’s late husband in 1995 after he was caught on camera stealing from Frank Carson’s dressing room. Carson being Davidson’s late best friend.

An insider revealed: ‘Jim blew his top when Linda’s husband was caught. He was playing up the road and he came down and went ballistic. He got right up to him and wanted to beat him up. He was yelling, “No one steals from my mates”.

‘Linda and others got the two apart then Linda had him thrown out. Jim was not happy as he was used to going where he pleased in Blackpool. I don’t think he’s ever got over it.’

Jim got the nation guessing when he alluded to an incident in Frank Carson’s dressing room on Thursday night’s show, much to Linda’s upset and disgust.

It then materialised that Linda’s late husband Brian Hudson, who died of liver failure in 2008, pleaded guilty to stealing £20 from Carson’s wallet in his dressing room at a Blackpool nightclub back in the day.

However, even now Linda is insistent that Brian was no thief and only confessed to the crime because of the damage the ongoing furore was having on their family.

Speaking to Lee Ryan on last night’s show, she said: ‘Money went missing and my Brian was accused. He went to court for it and he pleaded guilty.’

Another source added to The Sun: ‘Money was going missing every night from Frank’s wallet in his dressing room.

‘Secret cameras were installed and they caught Linda’s husband red-handed. It was highly embarrassing for Linda. He never explained why he had done it.’

CBB continues tonight at 9.45pm on Channel 5. Lionel became the third housemate to get the boot on last night’s show.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/18/jim-da...ained-4267721/

The Metro spilling the truth tea

[Cherie]

What would you have done?, given Brian a pat on the back and an extra 20 for stealing from a charity fund and sent him on his way

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What would you have done?, given Brian a pat on the back and an extra 20 for stealing from a charity fund and sent him on his way

I'de have done the same tbh,If Jim had stolen from charity boxes can you imagine the grief he'de have got on here.

[Black Dagger]

yawn

[flamingGalah!]

Good on Jim, I would have given the tealeaf a slap too...

[MrWong]

I'm surprised. I thought he only liked hitting women.

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I'm surprised. I thought he only liked hitting women.

Yes that is what most people are saying about Jim but no he will hit men too.

[Sophiee]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I'm surprised. I thought he only liked hitting women.

[MTVN]

Dont really see how an objective newspaper report can be described as 'spilling the tea'

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Petemitch123

... However, even now Linda is insistent that Brian was no thief and only confessed to the crime because of the damage the ongoing furore was having on their family....

Oh yeah, that'll be why he confessed....................

A lot of people in Jim's position would have reacted in the same way.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh yeah, that'll be why he confessed....................

A lot of people in Jim's position would have reacted in the same way.

He couldn't really deny it when he was caught red handed ON CAMERA, the dirty tealeaf

And Linda is making things worse by LYING about it & claiming he was innocent. I never get this 'don't speak ill of the dead' notion, doesn't seem to apply to Jimmy Savile does it

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh yeah, that'll be why he confessed....................

A lot of people in Jim's position would have reacted in the same way.

Clearly the Nolans and co are not people who like to be caught out as to anything.
He,her husband, confessed because he was shown video evidence taking the money from Frank Carson's wallet, he claimed he was only borrowing it.

Do people borrow from others by just taking money out of their wallets without their permission.I think not.
He confessed because he had no other choice thanks to the camera evidence which had reportedly been set up because other amounts had gone missing from Frank's wallet previous to that incident.

Linda Nolan can squirm all she likes but it is becoming clearer why she hates Jim in the house as to what he knows.

[Kizzy]

That's because he's an aggressive bully...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's because he's an aggressive bully...

Yes but he never beat him up.


Empty Threat

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's because he's an aggressive bully...

Yeah because it couldn't possibly be anything to do with the fact that he was pissed off because someone had been robbing his best friend and charity.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's because he's an aggressive bully...

He obviously is a violent man whose only way to deal with anger is to use his fists.
The other night in the garden he told Lee "Get it out!" "Punch somebody, punch me"!
Men like that never change, because the reason they react with violent words or actions is because they haven't the intelligence or capacity to deal with a situation in a mature way. They can only let their fists speak for them.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by jet

He obviously is a violent man whose only way to deal with anger is to use his fists.
The other night in the garden he told Lee "Get it out!" "Punch somebody, punch me"!
Men like that never change, because the reason they react with violent words or actions is because they haven't the intelligence or capacity to deal with a situation in a mature way. They can only let their fists speak for them.

It's not obvious to me. He's kept a lid on his anger on BB, and is well able to handle aggro from other people in a variety of ways: ignoring it; walking away; firing a snappy retort, etc. The papers aren't full of his victims coming forward and telling tales, now he's on BB. There's a news story from a marriage which ended 25 years ago and nothing since: no assault charges; no wife beating allegations; no court cases; no candid camera shots of him caught red-handed with his fist raised.

As far as I can see, there are two possibilities:

1. He's grown up/changed/got a handle on his drinking and emotions.
2. I've missed something in the papers.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

It's not obvious to me. He's kept a lid on his anger on BB, and is well able to handle aggro from other people in a variety of ways: ignoring it; walking away; firing a snappy retort, etc. The papers aren't full of his victims coming forward and telling tales, now he's on BB. There's a news story from a marriage which ended 25 years ago and nothing since: no assault charges; no wife beating allegations; no court cases; no candid camera shots of him caught red-handed with his fist raised.

As far as I can see, there are two possibilities:

1. He's grown up/changed/got a handle on his drinking and emotions.
2. I've missed something in the papers.

Walking away and ignoring anger is not the best way to deal with it as the anger becomes bottled up. Sooner or later the person will explode, do something inappropriate or once again turn to drink or drugs to cope with destructive emotions.

A violent man who has beaten his wife, threatened to beat up someone inappropriately (as in the case of Linda's husband - what happened to the law dealing with theft?) and still uses violent words as a way to deal with situations can curb his instincts to use his fists and if so that is a good thing - but can that instinct really ever 'go away'? No - because Jim now uses passive - aggressiveness to deal with situations and that is a classic switch -over coping mechanism.

He could have taken Linda aside and asked for a quiet word. He could have asked her what the problem was in a non - angry, quiet way and listened to her answer without interrupting. She would have got it off her chest and he would feel good for doing the right thing.Then they could perhaps have been able to move on.

Walking away, ignoring her, sniping back at her and interrupting her (all classic passive - aggressive behaviour) only made the frustration in Linda worse and the vicious circle continued. There is only one way then it could have come to a head - Jim losing his cool and slipping up and that is indeed what happened.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by jet

Walking away and ignoring anger is not the best way to deal with it as the anger becomes bottled up. Sooner or later the person will explode, do something inappropriate or once again turn to drink or drugs to cope with destructive emotions.

A violent man who has beaten his wife, threatened to beat up someone inappropriately (as in the case of Linda's husband - what happened to the law dealing with theft?) and still uses violent words as a way to deal with situations can curb his instincts to use his fists and if so that is a good thing - but can that instinct really ever 'go away'? No - because Jim now uses passive - aggressiveness to deal with situations and that is a classic switch -over coping mechanism.

He could have taken Linda aside and asked for a quiet word. He could have asked her what the problem was in a non - angry, quiet way and listened to her answer without interrupting. She would have got it off her chest and he would feel good for doing the right thing.Then they could perhaps have been able to move on.

Walking away, ignoring her, sniping back at her and interrupting her (all classic passive - aggressive behaviour) only made the frustration in Linda worse and the vicious circle continued. There is only one way then it could have come to a head - Jim losing his cool and slipping up and that is indeed what happened.

God I love reading your posts, they are better than Jims jokes. You must let me know what book of logic you read from, lol

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jet

Walking away and ignoring anger is not the best way to deal with it as the anger becomes bottled up. Sooner or later the person will explode, do something inappropriate or once again turn to drink or drugs to cope with destructive emotions.

A violent man who has beaten his wife, threatened to beat up someone inappropriately (as in the case of Linda's husband - what happened to the law dealing with theft?) and still uses violent words as a way to deal with situations can curb his instincts to use his fists and if so that is a good thing - but can that instinct really ever 'go away'? No - because Jim now uses passive - aggressiveness to deal with situations and that is a classic switch -over coping mechanism.

He could have taken Linda aside and asked for a quiet word. He could have asked her what the problem was in a non - angry, quiet way and listened to her answer without interrupting. She would have got it off her chest and he would feel good for doing the right thing.Then they could perhaps have been able to move on.

Walking away, ignoring her, sniping back at her and interrupting her (all classic passive - aggressive behaviour) only made the frustration in Linda worse and the vicious circle continued. There is only one way then it could have come to a head - Jim losing his cool and slipping up and that is indeed what happened.

it is right to walk away in this case, because these people are plain jealous of him and have bulllied him from day 1....they dont care what he has to say, they are out to get him. especially as hes the most talented and most famous person left. they want to detsroy him simple as that. so thats the point in engaging with such people? none at all....even when he cooks meals and cleans the kitchen they attack him. theyre man haters, worse than that theyre also bitter and jelaous too

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by jet

Walking away and ignoring anger is not the best way to deal with it as the anger becomes bottled up. Sooner or later the person will explode, do something inappropriate or once again turn to drink or drugs to cope with destructive emotions.

Who says? I recently read an anger management book written by a prominent psychologist which advocated these very techniques for dealing with anger. It said that research has shown that bottling up rage does not lead to an explosion and that in fact the best way to handle it is to allow it to dissipate naturally.

A violent man who has beaten his wife, threatened to beat up someone inappropriately (as in the case of Linda's husband - what happened to the law dealing with theft?) and still uses violent words as a way to deal with situations can curb his instincts to use his fists and if so that is a good thing - but can that instinct really ever 'go away'? No - because Jim now uses passive - aggressiveness to deal with situations and that is a classic switch -over coping mechanism.

He is not a violent man just because you think he is. He was violent according to one of his ex-wives 25 years ago. Since then, there has been no incidence of violence come to light. As far as the incident described in this thread...

‘Jim blew his top when Linda’s husband was caught. He was playing up the road and he came down and went ballistic. He got right up to him and wanted to beat him up. He was yelling, “No one steals from my mates”. Linda and others got the two apart"

If Jim had gone right up to someone then he had the opportunity to sock him one. This description doesn't say he socked him. It doesn't even say that Jim made any physical threats. We don't know why the person who reported the incident said that Jim wanted to beat him up. That might have been an exaggeration, or a mistaken idea formed by an onlooker. It might have been the truth, but you don't know and neither do I because we weren't there. Again, this incident happened about 20 years ago.

He could have taken Linda aside and asked for a quiet word. He could have asked her what the problem was in a non - angry, quiet way and listened to her answer without interrupting. She would have got it off her chest and he would feel good for doing the right thing.Then they could perhaps have been able to move on.

He has tried this sort of thing. We have seen it on the program. Linda does not want to engage with him, or let it go, or discuss it for obvious reasons (i.e. exposing her husband's misdeed). Jim obviously suspected that this incident was at the root of the problem, but out of deference to both her feelings and respect for the dead he chose not to push it or discuss it with any other housemate or in the diary room.

Walking away, ignoring her, sniping back at her and interrupting her (all classic passive - aggressive behaviour) only made the frustration in Linda worse and the vicious circle continued. There is only one way then it could have come to a head - Jim losing his cool and slipping up and that is indeed what happened.

No it is not what happened. Jim didn't lose his cool. He said to Luisa, in response to her asking what the issue was, that she needed to ask Linda.. to ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room. That's just a fact, and he obviously would not have anticipated that Linda would make such an issue of it. Any reasonable person would have simply explained to Luisa what had happened, or said she didn't want to discuss it. Instead she deliberately made it into an enormous drama by faking an over-emotional melt-down in order to get everyone on her side yet again. As far as Jim being passive aggressive in response to her overt hatred, manipulative behaviour and nastiness: give me Jim every time. I cannot wait to see the back of that Linda Nolan.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by jet

Walking away and ignoring anger is not the best way to deal with it as the anger becomes bottled up. Sooner or later the person will explode, do something inappropriate or once again turn to drink or drugs to cope with destructive emotions.

A violent man who has beaten his wife, threatened to beat up someone inappropriately (as in the case of Linda's husband - what happened to the law dealing with theft?) and still uses violent words as a way to deal with situations can curb his instincts to use his fists and if so that is a good thing - but can that instinct really ever 'go away'? No - because Jim now uses passive - aggressiveness to deal with situations and that is a classic switch -over coping mechanism.

He could have taken Linda aside and asked for a quiet word. He could have asked her what the problem was in a non - angry, quiet way and listened to her answer without interrupting. She would have got it off her chest and he would feel good for doing the right thing.Then they could perhaps have been able to move on.

Walking away, ignoring her, sniping back at her and interrupting her (all classic passive - aggressive behaviour) only made the frustration in Linda worse and the vicious circle continued. There is only one way then it could have come to a head - Jim losing his cool and slipping up and that is indeed what happened.

Excellent post

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

Walking away and ignoring anger is not the best way to deal with it as the anger becomes bottled up. Sooner or later the person will explode, do something inappropriate or once again turn to drink or drugs to cope with destructive emotions.

A violent man who has beaten his wife, threatened to beat up someone inappropriately (as in the case of Linda's husband - what happened to the law dealing with theft?) and still uses violent words as a way to deal with situations can curb his instincts to use his fists and if so that is a good thing - but can that instinct really ever 'go away'? No - because Jim now uses passive - aggressiveness to deal with situations and that is a classic switch -over coping mechanism.

He could have taken Linda aside and asked for a quiet word. He could have asked her what the problem was in a non - angry, quiet way and listened to her answer without interrupting. She would have got it off her chest and he would feel good for doing the right thing.Then they could perhaps have been able to move on.

Walking away, ignoring her, sniping back at her and interrupting her (all classic passive - aggressive behaviour) only made the frustration in Linda worse and the vicious circle continued. There is only one way then it could have come to a head - Jim losing his cool and slipping up and that is indeed what happened.

Hi my friend jet, I don't say a great deal to you as to Jim as I know we are on totally opposite sides as to him in this CBB series.
My great respect for you yourself however remains 100% intact.

What I want to say here however is, I actually applaud Jim's walking away from full confrontation, it is something Lee does too I have noticed.
Speaking for myself, many times I have found myself in a situation where harsh words and a major argument could have likely blown up.

I choose in the main,to walk away and far from finding it bottling up, I find if I go out for a walk or take my Dog for a walk, after a short time things can seem very different.
On loads of occasions where I could have fallen out badly with someone,I have walked away, thought hard then came back,smiled and all is well.

After that,I find anyway, the original problem,or a great deal of it, starts to pale into insignificance.
So I do really applaud Jim for taking that action really,that's all I want to say.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by jet

Walking away and ignoring anger is not the best way to deal with it as the anger becomes bottled up. Sooner or later the person will explode, do something inappropriate or once again turn to drink or drugs to cope with destructive emotions.

Twaddle. Waling away is a crucial step in anger management and the thing people with anger management difficulties struggle with the most. Having an alternative outlet for your emotion is also crucial, and Jim seems able to offfload his frustration amongst his peers, which is healthy. Humour is also a mature defence mechanism and he uses this a great deal. If he stood around screaming you'd have said he should have walked away, when he walks away you state walking away is wrong. Gott in Himmel!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

It's not obvious to me. He's kept a lid on his anger on BB, and is well able to handle aggro from other people in a variety of ways: ignoring it; walking away; firing a snappy retort, etc. The papers aren't full of his victims coming forward and telling tales, now he's on BB. There's a news story from a marriage which ended 25 years ago and nothing since: no assault charges; no wife beating allegations; no court cases; no candid camera shots of him caught red-handed with his fist raised.

As far as I can see, there are two possibilities:

1. He's grown up/changed/got a handle on his drinking and emotions.
2. I've missed something in the papers.

yes agreed plus most the the flak thrown at him was utter lies and was thrown out of court