[unoino]

Lastnights BB saw Cammi parading in nothing but thong and very small bra...it also showed her stating "hurting for a squirting"...and then cavorting all over Callum Best...she appeared to be desperate for Cxxx....now then putting things into prespective..Chloe got a guy thrown out..receiving a warning from police...branded a rapist..having to sign a sex offenders register and tarninshing his career...because he touched Chloes dressing gown...if Callum was to of reacted in the same way as Chloe did...would they have charged Cammi with sexual assault and evicted her!

[Niamh.]

Well they didn't charge Jeremy with sexual assault and there's a clear difference. Firstly Cami and callum have been flirting with eachother since the show started, there's clearly a mutual thing going on between them and yet still neither of them have opened the others clothing revealing a breast etc The Jeremy/Chloe thing happened while Chloe was trying to help a sick Jeremy, there was no encouragement or "green light" given from Chloe to allow him to open her clothing

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well they didn't charge Jeremy with sexual assault and there's a clear difference. Firstly Cami and callum have been flirting with eachother since the show started, there's clearly a mutual thing going on between them and yet still neither of them have opened the others clothing revealing a breast etc The Jeremy/Chloe thing happened while Chloe was trying to help a sick Jeremy, there was no encouragement or "green light" given from Chloe to allow him to open her clothing

I couldn't agree more Niamh but some posters on here absolutely LOATHE those two girls. So let them at it

[the truth]

its being going on for years. denise welch hit Michael madsen in the face and stalked and abused him for weeks she also pulled down a womans trousers....that girla Bianca last year ran around naked umpteen times and demanded Winston fck her on the garden floor and suck his ckc within minutes of metting him....Katie Hopkins has stalked abused threatened perez umpteen times smashed up property and threatened to poison his drinks etc and not even a warning? its a biased man hating sexist show

[unoino]

Sorry he was thrown out and received a police caution cos Chloe didnt want to press charges..but for god sake...what virginal innocent perfect world are you in...Theres noway if you were dying that Chloe would go near you...in other words shed never make a doctor/lawyer/nurse..you have to be in rooms with men on your own in these proffessions!She cried Wolfe and the punishment was very unproportionate

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by unoino

Sorry he was thrown out and received a police caution cos Chloe didnt want to press charges..but for god sake...what virginal innocent perfect world are you in...Theres noway if you were dying that Chloe would go near you...in other words shed never make a doctor/lawyer/nurse..you have to be in rooms with men on your own in these proffessions!She cried Wolfe and the pubishment was very unproportionate

Is that for me? lol hhmm

I'll just ignore that bit and move on to her "crying wolf" She told Big Brother what had happened and Jeremy told the exact same story, how was she "crying wolf"?

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by unoino

Sorry he was thrown out and received a police caution cos Chloe didnt want to press charges..but for god sake...what virginal innocent perfect world are you in...Theres noway if you were dying that Chloe would go near you...in other words shed never make a doctor/lawyer/nurse..you have to be in rooms with men on your own in these proffessions!She cried Wolfe and the punishment was very unproportionate

For ****s sake Jeremy overstepped the line. most people in here agree thank Godness. WHY is the WOMAN almost always blamed. In every interview she has done since she said she is not going to press charges accepts Jeremys apology and just wants to move on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bez87]

I honestly didn't see anything to outrageous that jeremy should of been kicked out, end of the day, he was very very drunk, he had a some what attractive lady hanging over him, he pulled her dressing gown, and it was done with, there in the big brother has, loads of people about camera's on 24/7, i just saw that to be honest as a very drunken mistake, not sexual harassment, yes he should of never done it, but i mean come on how many of us in our younger days didn't do something a little wrong when we was drunk, not denying it wasn't wrong but still i think it was blown out of proportion

[the truth]

she invaded his private space she had no right to be there he was steaming drunk and sick she also had no clothes on under her robe, if a man had done what she did gone into the bathroom when a drunk women is being sick naked under his robe and his robe fell open, hed be arrested not her. the law and culture is biased its a sick joke

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by the truth

she invaded his private space she had no right to be there he was steaming drunk and sick she also had no clothes on under her robe, if a man had done what she did gone into the bathroom when a drunk women is being sick naked under his robe and his robe fell open, hed be arrested not her. the law and culture is biased its a sick joke

Well you do realize women are physically weaker than men and frequently raped? its a taboo subject and one you seem to be missing, Im sorry to bring it up but come on reality check. There is such a thing as being a gentleman and being a lady. I believe her intentions were just to be kind to him and he took it the wrong way. It was really unfortunate, he didnt deserve to be thrown out but also Chole didn't deserve to leave. It was a shame for all involved but he has learned a good lesson - STOP DRINKING. It is deeply embedded into the psychology of females to be intimidated by men doing things like this to them - they feel vulnerable and cant protect themselves whereas men can. Im sorry but its as simple as that.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Well you do realize women are physically weaker than men and frequently raped? its a taboo subject and one you seem to be missing, Im sorry to bring it up but come on reality check. There is such a thing as being a gentleman and being a lady. I believe her intentions were just to be kind to him and he took it the wrong way. It was really unfortunate, he didnt deserve to be thrown out but also Chole didn't deserve to leave. It was a shame for all involved but he has learned a good lesson - STOP DRINKING. It is deeply embedded into the psychology of females to be intimidated by men doing things like this to them - they feel vulnerable and cant protect themselves whereas men can. Im sorry but its as simple as that.

lets hope shes learned her lesson....don't invade someones private space, especially when theyre drunk and sick...she shouldn't have gone in there and certainly not naked under her loose fitting robe. that was idiotic. men are not invulnerable and are far too deminized whereas women are too over protected, the double standards have reached disgustiug proportions. besides being a gentleman is usually criticized as patronizing these days or sexist so men can never ever get it riright. if they said women and children first when the titanic sinks the women would soon grab their lifeboats then complain about being patronized later. whilst the brave gentlemen lay drowned at the bottom of the ocean, just about sums it up in this male hating sexist society

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Well you do realize women are physically weaker than men and frequently raped? its a taboo subject and one you seem to be missing, Im sorry to bring it up but come on reality check. There is such a thing as being a gentleman and being a lady. I believe her intentions were just to be kind to him and he took it the wrong way. It was really unfortunate, he didnt deserve to be thrown out but also Chole didn't deserve to leave. It was a shame for all involved but he has learned a good lesson - STOP DRINKING. It is deeply embedded into the psychology of females to be intimidated by men doing things like this to them - they feel vulnerable and cant protect themselves whereas men can. Im sorry but its as simple as that.

Very well put Sungrass

[MTVN]

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[unoino]

Ok you...the term crying wolfe...yes Jeremy touched her gown like everybodyelse has said ..ok shouldnt of done it but she cried got the guy sacked, involved the police..hang on he didnt rape her he touched her gown ..where she was alone..tits in his face..makes a living by gettin her tits out..he was pissed...so she went to town...omg youd **** urself if Chloe offered you to go to stay at her house.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by unoino

Ok you...the term crying wolfe...yes Jeremy touched her gown like everybodyelse has said ..ok shouldnt of done it but she cried got the guy sacked, involved the police..hang on he didnt rape her he touched her gown ..where she was alone..tits in his face..makes a living by gettin her tits out..he was pissed...so she went to town...omg youd **** urself if Chloe offered you to go to stay at her house.

Well crying wolf implies that she was making up a story which didn't happen, also she wasn't the one who got the Police involved, that was BB covering themselves no doubt. It's pretty unfair to blame her the way you're doing. Yes jeremy was drunk and he probably didn't know she wasn't wearing anything under the gown but she wasn't, Chloe got a fright, it seemed like a genuine reaction to me. The next day she said that she didn't think it was done maliciously, what more do you want from the girl? tbf if you want to blame a HMs reaction for Jeremy being kicked out, it'd be fairer to say Perez reacted "worse" than Chloe did

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well crying wolf implies that she was making up a story which didn't happen, also she wasn't the one who got the Police involved, that was BB covering themselves no doubt. It's pretty unfair to blame her the way you're doing. Yes jeremy was drunk and he probably didn't know she wasn't wearing anything under the gown but she wasn't, Chloe got a fright, it seemed like a genuine reaction to me. The next day she said that she didn't think it was done maliciously, what more do you want from the girl? tbf if you want to blame a HMs reaction for Jeremy being kicked out, it'd be fairer to say Perez reacted "worse" than Chloe did

s did cry wolf she made out as if hed attacked her which he hadn't, she deliberately milked the situation in a thoroughly disingenuous and ruthless way to get some cheap camera attention. he didn't lay a hand on her, she invaded his space. she went in there naked too

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

s did cry wolf she made out as if hed attacked her which he hadn't, she deliberately milked the situation in a thoroughly disingenuous and ruthless way to get some cheap camera attention. he didn't lay a hand on her, she invaded his space. she went in there naked too

Her account of events was the exact same as Jeremys though so no she didn't "cry wolf" Also, she didn't go in there naked, she was wearing a full length bathrobe which is more coverage than the little bikinis they've been wearing in the hot tub

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Her account of events was the exact same as Jeremys though so no she didn't "cry wolf" Also, she didn't go in there naked, she was wearing a full length bathrobe which is more coverage than the little bikinis they've been wearing in the hot tub

she had no legal right to enter the bathroom when he was in there, she was naked under her robe. for all we know she deliberately left the robe loose so as to trap a famous man to milk some publicity and air time....stranger things have happened.....if the roles were reversed the man would still be getting all the time. her actions are a disgrace her milking of a harmless accident was a disgrace. I hope he goes to court to clear his name, maybe he can get her name on the sex pest register instead.

[rionablue]

[QUOTE=the truth;7510123]s did cry wolf she made out as if hed attacked her which he hadn't, she deliberately milked the situation in a thoroughly disingenuous and ruthless way to get some cheap camera attention. he didn't lay a hand on her, she invaded his space. she went in there naked too[/QUOTE

WHAT programme are you watching. She CERTAINLY didn't make out he attacked her she told BB and the others what happened and as NIAMH said He told the same story. What about the other girls who went in there that night to help Jeremy or check was he alright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[unoino]

..we know what the law is I studied it for 7 yrs...but your really not listening..I think this case would be thrown out because of her involvement..BB were judge and jury..she did involve police by overeacting...youd have to admit when crossexamined the case would be thrown out due to
mitigating circumstances...Jeremy should take her to court for the allegation and get his name cleared.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by unoino

..we know what the law is I dtudied it for 7 yrs...but your really not listening..I think this case would be thrown out because of her involvement..BB were judge and jury..she did involve police by overeacting...youd have to admit when crossexamined the case would be thrown out due to
mitigating circumstances...Jeremy should take her to court for the allegation and get his name cleared.

jeremy should take her to court for what allegation? She "alleged" that he'd pulled her robe open and revealed her breast........Jeremy confirmed that this is what happened, how is he going to sue her for telling the exact same version of events that she did? You can't take a person to court for crying too much last time I checked.......

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

jeremy should take her to court for what allegation? She "alleged" that he'd pulled her robe open and revealed her breast........Jeremy confirmed that this is what happened, how is he going to sue her for telling the exact same version of events that she did? You can't take a person to court for crying too much last time I checked.......

wrong. he ddindt pull anything open. he touched a string which fell loose. the fact she was naked underneath was her choice. try going into a womans bathroom when shes drunk wearing nothing under your bathrobe and see what reaction you get? what reaction do u think youd get? eh?

[bots]

It seems to be being implied by some that if someone works in the glamour/sex industry, then they automatically become fair game to being touched/abused/groped - no they don't

I believe that the incident happened because all the housemates are concerned about is air time. The girls, including Chloe knew that by "helping" Jeremy they would be seen on the show. In doing this, they didn't care what position they put themselves in. In normal circumstances, I'm certain none of those self obsessed so and so's would have gone anywhere near him. Anyway, Jeremy did something that wasn't quite predictable, and the rest is history.

[unoino]

Quite easy You go to police station and say I want to press charges for false allegations...Then he gets a lawyer and prosecution have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that he did it....the fact he said he touched her gown doesnt constitute an assault...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by unoino

Quite easy You go to police station and say I want to press charges for false allegations...Then he gets a lawyer and prosecution have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that he did it....the fact he said he touched her gown doesnt constitute an assault...

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