[Crimson Dynamo]

BBC clears Clarkson over new racism row: Corporation rules 'pikey' is NOT offensive after travellers' group complains about joke

• Word became part of 'running gag' between Clarkson and James May
• It was about their colleague Richard Hammond's perceived cheap style
• Complaint lodged by Traveller Movement after word appeared in epsiode
• But BBC Trust says there was 'no intended racist reference' on Top Gear

The ruling stated: ‘The committee believed the word “pikey” had evolved into common parlance among a number of people to mean “chavvy” or “cheap” and … viewers would not necessarily associate it with the Gipsy and Traveller communities.’


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[Kizzy]

‘The committee believed the word “pikey” had evolved into common parlance among a number of people to mean “chavvy” or “cheap” and … viewers would not necessarily associate it with the Gipsy and Traveller communities.’

Due to the stereotypical use of the word...

[Crimson Dynamo]

well if pikeys weren't so chavvy surely this would not have happened?

[Kizzy]

define 'chavvy'

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chavvy

[Livia]

Everyone's so very offended. Makes me wonder how some people get through the day, the delicate little flowers.

[Kizzy]

Chavvy
Refers to a mate of the 'pikey' or 'Traveller' family ,i.e 'Oight chavvy!, pass da reefer bouy!'

So, equally as offensive then, and associated with travellers?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Chavvy
Refers to a mate of the 'pikey' or 'Traveller' family ,i.e 'Oight chavvy!, pass da reefer bouy!'

So, equally as offensive then, and associated with travellers?

not according to the bbc

[Kizzy]

pffff! BBC shmee bee cee

[Vicky.]

Some people seem to look for reasons to be offended tbh, its getting slightly pathetic.

[Kizzy]

Then what's the point banning any derogatory word that is used to cause offence to any minority group, sexual preference or faith?
If when they are used it's 'PC gone mad' to object to it...

If the offensive term was directed towards a group I was connected with then I would feel very strongly about it, when you're not directly affected it's easy to be blasé I suppose.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Then what's the point banning any derogatory word that is used to cause offence to any minority group, sexual preference or faith?
If when they are used it's 'PC gone mad' to object to it...

If the offensive term was directed towards a group I was connected with then I would feel very strongly about it, when you're not directly affected it's easy to be blasé I suppose.

Well tbh I dont really agree with banning words at all. I think it gives the person using them too much relevance. Ignoring stuff like this and writing the user off as an idiot is much more my thing, not getting in a flap about it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well tbh I dont really agree with banning words at all. I think it gives the person using them too much relevance. Ignoring stuff like this and writing the user off as an idiot is much more my thing, not getting in a flap about it

I think on your "national" channel, words like "pikey" which is a derogatory word used to describe a certain group of people, should probably not be used, it is offensive to that group

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think on your "national" channel, words like "pikey" which is a derogatory word used to describe a certain group of people, should probably not be used, it is offensive to that group

I think people get frustrated with it Niamh. Those people sometimes referred to as 'Pikeys' cause a lot of damage here, they destroy complete areas with their stealing and their dumping of rubbish, the police's hands are totally tied when dealing with them, so much more so than the Garda, according to some coppers I liaised with when I was working with an MP. They move onto a piece of private ground, a supermarket car park, a village green nothing's out of bounds to them, and they turn it into a rubbish dump. They pay no tax, they adhere to no laws, they close ranks if there is any kind of investigation into their wrong doings... but even so, it is demanded we show them respect when they give none. I'm not usually one for calling people names but the work 'Pikey' isn't used for all travellers as far as I can see. It's used for the scum of the travelling community who give the rest of them a bad name.

Morning, by the way...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think people get frustrated with it Niamh. Those people sometimes referred to as 'Pikeys' cause a lot of damage here, they destroy complete areas with their stealing and their dumping of rubbish, the police's hands are totally tied when dealing with them, so much more so than the Garda, according to some coppers I liaised with when I was working with an MP. They move onto a piece of private ground, a supermarket car park, a village green nothing's out of bounds to them, and they turn it into a rubbish dump. They pay no tax, they adhere to no laws, they close ranks if there is any kind of investigation into their wrong doings... but even so, it is demanded we show them respect when they give none. I'm not usually one for calling people names but the work 'Pikey' isn't used for all travellers as far as I can see. It's used for the scum of the travelling community who give the rest of them a bad name.

Morning, by the way...

Well, I think those coppers you liased with are wrong, the same does happen here I can assure you so I do know what you're talking about.

My point though is that even though you say that Pikey isn't used for all travellers, I think alot of people do use it for Travellers in general and it is a derogatory word used for a particular group and probably should not be used on the BBC.

Morning

[Nedusa]

How is "pikey" a racist word it does not refer to any particular race, but accurately describes a nasty,dirty,smelly,uncouth,unlawful,unwashed,unedu cated,thieving class of people.

The sort of people who have no moral compass, no scruples, take no responsibility for their lives or their childrens lives, who live of the state and take whatever else they want.

How is that racist................??

[Kizzy]

It's still offensive.

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's still offensive.

Get over yourself.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

Get over yourself.

Just my opinion Helen.

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Just my opinion Helen.

And you're fully entitled to have it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the real crime was that one call from some herbert meant they had to have an enquiry instead of the person who called being told to naff off and watch call the midwife instead

[Nedusa]

Absolutely (see my post above) , would not want to be called one of those.

But it is still not racist and therefore not coved in our race hate legislation.

[Kizzy]

3.2.1

http://www.report-it.org.uk/files/ha...l_guidance.pdf

[Crimson Dynamo]

jesus no wonder being a copper is a thankless task

[Kizzy]

Thanks.