[Amy Jade]

It really, really annoys me because neither of the girls he's said it to are fat and it's people like him who give girls low self esteem about their weight - I used to be quite a bit bigger than I am now and if he called me fat, even though I am slightly underweight for my height it would make me hold back from eating

I feel sorry for Sam and Chloe living with somebody like him it must be awful.

[JTM45]

He's an imbecille!!!
He can't stop hating on Chloe and Harry in particular and it's not like it's just a bit of fun. He's obsessed with the hate.
I think he must be a severely insecure person inside and that's why he's spent so much time plucking, inflating and plasticizing himself.

He's a very sad little oik !!!!

[reece(:]

Does he think it's funny or something?

[sampvt]

he has an opinion as everyone has

[Withano]

Originally Posted by sampvt

he has an opinion as everyone has

That doesn't mean he should share it ffs.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

he has an opinion as everyone has

Someone being fat isn't an opinion. It's a fact, they either are or they're not.

Sam and Chloe are not fat, so him calling them it is not only incorrect but uncalled for.

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Someone being fat isn't an opinion. It's a fact, they either are or they're not.

Well you're actually wrong there. Fat isn't an objective term. It's very much subjective, based on the body types you're surrounded with. Overweight has a strict definition, Obese has a definition but fat does not. I don't think I'd call either of the two fat myself, at most a bit chubby, but fat doesn't come with guidelines. It is an opinion.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

Well you're actually wrong there. Fat isn't an objective term. It's very much subjective, based on the body types you're surrounded with. Overweight has a strict definition, Obese has a definition but fat does not. I don't think I'd call either of the two fat myself, at most a bit chubby, but fat doesn't come with guidelines. It is an opinion.

A sad day when you're actively justifying bullying.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A sad day when you're actively justifying bullying.

When did they say that?

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A sad day when you're actively justifying bullying.

Hey, it's my mouth, don't put your words in there. At what point did I say it was ok to go around calling people fat? Shockingly you'll discover that I didn't.

All I said was that fat is not an objective term which it isn't. I was disputing your claim not hopping on the hate bandwagon. There is no strict threshold for "fat". Of course if you're so dead set on being right when you're not feel free to retreat into calling me a bully. Anyone with a modicum of sense will be able to understand what I said and the irrationality of your response.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by sampvt

he has an opinion as everyone has

I don't really think that's a good excuse for him saying they're fat when they're not. That's actually pretty cruel trying to pesuade girls who look perfectly healthy that they are fat.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I don't really think that's a good excuse for him saying they're fat when they're not. That's actually pretty cruel trying to pesuade girls who look perfectly healthy that they are fat.

definition of fat is overweight and they both are.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

definition of fat is overweight and they both are.

You know how much they exactly weigh then?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Jake.

You know how much they exactly weigh then?

more than they should do. maybe your tv needs to go to letterbox or 16.9

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by sampvt

definition of fat is overweight and they both are.

They look perfectly normal to me and Sam in perticular seems to have a pretty toned body especially her arms and legs but either way what does he gain from calling them fat? He also called Harry fat a few weeks ago.

Is he just that awful that he gets joy in tormenting them?

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by sampvt

definition of fat is overweight and they both are.

If they are Marc must be too.Proving any weight /height /age ratio on a chart can be wrong.

[Ellen]

We can all say things that may upset people from time to time but if someone tells you that it bothers them then you shut up.

I dont know if Chloe or Sam have called themselves fat or not and Marc thinks its ok because they do he can but like i say, if they have have got upset by it he should have the sense not to keep repeating it.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by sampvt

definition of fat is overweight and they both are.

Well that's not exactly true though is it. Fat isn't something you are, it's something you have. Something everyone has. You kinda need it to live.

When people say someone is fat, what they obviously mean is that in their opinion they are overweight. It's fine to have your own opinion but I too am tired of seeing people use their opinion just to belittle and mock people like chloe and sam for not being as thin as some members would like them to be, and then claim that their insults are based on fact when they aren't.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

he has an opinion as everyone has

He insults peoples physical appearance and you excuse that as his "opinion" really? So there's no such thing as bullying in the playground anymore eh? Just a bunch of kids with opinions?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He insults peoples physical appearance and you excuse that as his "opinion" really? So there's no such thing as bullying in the playground anymore eh? Just a bunch of kids with opinions?

Marc calls Chloe fat, Brian calls Helen pond scum. One is funny one is terribly insulting.......can you tell me which is which please. I cant make my mind up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Marc calls Chloe fat, Brian calls Helen pond scum. One is funny one is terribly insulting.......can you tell me which is which please. I cant make my mind up.

Both are pretty insulting

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Both are pretty insulting

I agree, both are awful, but they are both opinions, yet I am wrong in saying so. I don't get that analogy.

[LukeB]

Horrible horrible man

[the truth]

its pathetic and its not remotely funny. I also feel the same about mocking jacks weight

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by the truth

its pathetic and its not remotely funny. I also feel the same about mocking jacks weight

but he's fat