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Exclamation Disney warns about RACISM in old films


Disney has added warnings about racist stereotypes in classic films, including
Dumbo, The Jungle Book, Peter Pan and Lady and the Tramp.


The films, mostly from the Forties and Fifties, now come with a warning about
offensive tropes on the US company's new streaming service Disney Plus,
which launched on Tuesday.


Among the more notorious scenes from the children's cartoons are the
Siamese cats in the 1955 film Lady and the Tramp, depicting an East Asian
stereotype.


Peter Pan, released in 1953, includes a tribe of Native American characters
who sing a song called “What Makes the Red Man Red?”


The 1941 film Dumbo maintains a crow character called Jim Crow, a reference
to racist laws suppressing and segregating African Americans in the American
South.


Descriptions of the programmes say: “This programme is presented as
originally created. It may contain outdated cultural depictions."

More here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ms-lady-tramp/
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Disney has added warnings about racist stereotypes in classic films, including
Dumbo, The Jungle Book, Peter Pan and Lady and the Tramp.


The films, mostly from the Forties and Fifties, now come with a warning about
offensive tropes on the US company's new streaming service Disney Plus,
which launched on Tuesday.


Among the more notorious scenes from the children's cartoons are the
Siamese cats in the 1955 film Lady and the Tramp, depicting an East Asian
stereotype.


Peter Pan, released in 1953, includes a tribe of Native American characters
who sing a song called “What Makes the Red Man Red?”


The 1941 film Dumbo maintains a crow character called Jim Crow, a reference
to racist laws suppressing and segregating African Americans in the American
South.


Descriptions of the programmes say: “This programme is presented as
originally created. It may contain outdated cultural depictions."

More here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ms-lady-tramp/
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When children will be watching it's important to have that context. Better to present the films as they are with some context attached than to cut the content out, surely?
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WTF, why is the world changing so much towards that ''politically correct''

there weren't complaints when these movies premiered in theatres
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WTF, why is the world changing so much towards that ''politically correct''

there weren't complaints when these movies premiered in theatres
Agree. Far too much of this political correctness crap about. Fgs.
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Agree. Far too much of this political correctness crap about. Fgs.
Don’t know what the big deal is, it’s just a warning about what’s said in the older movies they just launched a streaming service with all these movies on so warning is a better move. There’s not really a big fuss about it either.
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I may be wrong but i would imagine this would be legally led to avoid lawsuits from nefarious sources?
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It's just a warning before the films air? What's wrong with that?
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It's just a warning before the films air? What's wrong with that?
To reasonable people, nothing. To armchair warriors that want a reason to sputter about 'PC gone mad', it's everything.
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It's just a warning before the films air? What's wrong with that?
Does there really need to be a warning about an old Film having outdated views though? It's not the end of the world for me, but I think everyone expects a Film from the 40's to have racism as sadly it was the norm back then.
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Does there really need to be a warning about an old Film having outdated views though? It's not the end of the world for me, but I think everyone expects a Film from the 40's to have racism as sadly it was the norm back then.
I just dont understand why people are so annoyed about it is all
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I just dont understand why people are so annoyed about it is all
Oh I'm with you 100% on why would people be annoyed about it.
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Does there really need to be a warning about an old Film having outdated views though? It's not the end of the world for me, but I think everyone expects a Film from the 40's to have racism as sadly it was the norm back then.
Unless children have been educated as such, there wouldn’t be a reason for them to have knowledge on it, really. I think this kind of thing helps that.
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Unless children have been educated as such, there wouldn’t be a reason for them to have knowledge on it, really. I think this kind of thing helps that.
I am starting to be won over with the idea.

As long as it's only a 2 seconds disclaimer and not editing content from these Films.
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I am starting to be won over with the idea.

As long as it's only a 2 seconds disclaimer and not editing content from these Films.
If they were editing the footage out, there would be no need for a warning.
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It's the right thing to do, it's better to take an ugly part of history and turn it into a teachable moment rather than scrub it from existence. Better to acknowledge the faults than to brush them under the rug.
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Imagine being annoyed at a family friendly company taking measures to try and refute racism
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You people really are out here pretending to care an ounce about the cultural preservation of the racist crows in Dumbo for the sake of your stale "PC gone mad!!!!" stances, huh
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You people really are out here pretending to care an ounce about the cultural preservation of the racist crows in Dumbo for the sake of your stale "PC gone mad!!!!" stances, huh
and "you people" really think this about racism and not fear of a lawsuit


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and "you people" really think this about racism and not fear of a lawsuit


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Does it matter?
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Does it matter?
It matters that real motive is discussed and understood
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It matters that real motive is discussed and understood
Do you discuss the "real motive" for all the small print on dog food? Or the age classification on a DVD? No.
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So? Would people rather the content be cut altogether?
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