[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

quite but is important for the young people to realise that back then is not the same as now - ie these movies were not made in a society that reflects 2019 and that had they been born back there they would not have noticed, if that makes sense

hopefully that is what parents are for

Thats the point of the warning.

EDIT: SHaun beat me to it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Shaun

True, but isn't that basically what this warning does? Differentiate between then and now?

will kids understand?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's just a warning before the films air? What's wrong with that?

Does there really need to be a warning about an old Film having outdated views though? It's not the end of the world for me, but I think everyone expects a Film from the 40's to have racism as sadly it was the norm back then.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

will kids understand?

I think older kids will understand.

Admittedly the warning might actually be good for younger kids who have never experienced or heard about prejudice much before. So I am starting to warm to the idea better.

[bitontheslide]

Kids won't take any notice of a warning at the start, so it's not aimed at them. It's aimed at the adults watching it. I don't see it as a warning, i see it as LT says, as a way of mitigating against any negativity at what is being shown.

At the end of the day, they were the company that created/commissioned that content, adding a warning is not taking responsibility for that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Does there really need to be a warning about an old Film having outdated views though? It's not the end of the world for me, but I think everyone expects a Film from the 40's to have racism as sadly it was the norm back then.

I just dont understand why people are so annoyed about it is all

[Amy Jade]

It's actually a good idea I don't really understand the backlash

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I just dont understand why people are so annoyed about it is all

Oh I'm with you 100% on why would people be annoyed about it.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Does there really need to be a warning about an old Film having outdated views though? It's not the end of the world for me, but I think everyone expects a Film from the 40's to have racism as sadly it was the norm back then.

Unless children have been educated as such, there wouldn’t be a reason for them to have knowledge on it, really. I think this kind of thing helps that.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and "you people" really think this about racism and not fear of a lawsuit


huh?

Does it matter?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Does it matter?

It matters that real motive is discussed and understood

[Scarlett.]

It's just a warning placed at the start of the content, its not like they've butchered it to fit modern standards.

[Marsh.]

Don't see the problem with an indication, just like any family movie warns of sex references etc.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

At the end of the day, they were the company that created/commissioned that content, adding a warning is not taking responsibility for that.

But ran by different people... living in entirely different times so not as though it's a racist person shouting "It's ok my cousin's black!"

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It matters that real motive is discussed and understood

Do you discuss the "real motive" for all the small print on dog food? Or the age classification on a DVD? No.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Unless children have been educated as such, there wouldn’t be a reason for them to have knowledge on it, really. I think this kind of thing helps that.

I am starting to be won over with the idea.

As long as it's only a 2 seconds disclaimer and not editing content from these Films.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I am starting to be won over with the idea.

As long as it's only a 2 seconds disclaimer and not editing content from these Films.

If they were editing the footage out, there would be no need for a warning.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

If they were editing the footage out, there would be no need for a warning.

I should've clarified that I meant in the future that Disney doesn't extend the disclaimer into editing out footage.

[Ammi]

...I think it’s perfect for the warnings to be adopted by Disney as well because children understand so much of the world around them with regards to stereotypes..and this creates an opening to conversations which are necessary....

[Jake.]

The same thing happened with Tom & Jerry dvd collections iirc. Whoppi Goldberg provided a disclaimer at the beginning warning of the racially insensitive content and whilst they are wholly unexceptable in todays society, to remove them would be attempting to wash over that such stereotypes existed.

[Livia]

I watch a lot of old films on Talking Pictures TV and nine times out of ten there is a warning about outdated language or something. It has never detracted from my enjoyment. I would rather have that than include inappropriate characters. For instance... I've seen a black guardsman during Queen Victoria's reign, I've seen black people in positions of power 100 years ago. To me that's just like pretending things were always fine for black people... and that isn't the case, and taking political correctness to that kind of length, to me, is trying to change history and the struggle black people had back then.

That said... Can Hollywood stop portraying the English and the Germans as crooks. If there's a megalomaniac set on world domination, they're either English or German.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jake.

The same thing happened with Tom & Jerry dvd collections iirc. Whoppi Goldberg provided a disclaimer at the beginning warning of the racially insensitive content and whilst they are wholly unexceptable in todays society, to remove them would be attempting to wash over that such stereotypes existed.

I agree.

[Kizzy]

Pc gone mad to its totally acceptable in less than a day..That's real progress

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Kids won't take any notice of a warning at the start, so it's not aimed at them. It's aimed at the adults watching it. I don't see it as a warning, i see it as LT says, as a way of mitigating against any negativity at what is being shown.

At the end of the day, they were the company that created/commissioned that content, adding a warning is not taking responsibility for that.

Yes heaven forbid they just don't try and make millions from racist content.....

[Kizzy]

I'm going to court controversy here but if you take away the voices from the blackbirds and make the Siamese cats sound less Siamese then are you just whitewashing the whole thing?

In society there are different cultures and ethnicities why not in cartoon?