[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true

Video Clip on above link.





[Shocking moment racist pensioner is beaten up
on a London bus by two black passengers
after calling them 'monkeys'
The pensioner calls black passengers 'monkeys'
in the clip from a London bus
Two passengers exchange angry words
with the pensioner during confrontation
They tell him to 'get off the bus' and
the pensioner eventually swings at them
In response, two young men punch the
pensioner several times in the head]


Was on a tweet
so I had to post it.

[Liam-]

Violent racist gets smacked up, as it should be

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't be jumping around celebrating that an old guy got punched however it's hard to have sympathy either when he's got such a vile mouth on him

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wouldn't be jumping around celebrating that an old guy got punched however it's hard to have sympathy either when he's got such a vile mouth on him

Same here tbh.

[UserSince2005]

Calling someone an animal and then them acting like an animals. Silly old man. He should have known better.

[arista]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Calling someone an animal and then them acting like an animals. Silly old man. He should have known better.

He is stuck in the past.

[Toy Soldier]

The reaction should never be violence, filming and reporting him was enough.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The reaction should never be violence, filming and reporting him was enough.

I agree with this , they would have had more credibility had they just filmed it and ignored him, all very much in the wrong. He is of an age that he was probably brought up this way and probably not fully composmentis, no excuses here just a thought and they were wrong to punch him in the head.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I agree with this , they would have had more credibility had they just filmed it and ignored him, all very much in the wrong. He is of an age that he was probably brought up this way and probably not fully composmentis, no excuses here just a thought and they were wrong to punch him in the head.

If there's no excuses why are you making excuses?...
My dad was born in 1926, he would never have dreamed of speaking that way about anyone.

That said I don't think they were right to hit him at all either. Yes they would have been very angry and frustrated but as said having filmed the whole thing it was certain there was going to be some justice. This might not be as severe now due to their retaliation.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If there's no excuses why are you making excuses?...
My dad was born in 1926, he would never have dreamed of speaking that way about anyone.

That said I don't think they were right to hit him at all either. Yes they would have been very angry and frustrated but as said having filmed the whole thing it was certain there was going to be some justice. This might not be as severe now due to their retaliation.

...yeah that’s the thing, Kizzy...age is not a reason, it’s an excuse...Race prejudice was as unacceptable back in the day as it is now...and for those who did and still do have that mindset.../...it shows a lack of growth in a lifetime given...

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The reaction should never be violence, filming and reporting him was enough.

Exactly, people never learn

[Liam-]

We can’t all be perfect and not react when a racist abuses someone and takes a swing first

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We can’t all be perfect and not react when a racist abuses someone and takes a swing first

Keep that as your defence.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We can’t all be perfect and not react when a racist abuses someone and takes a swing first

Weird tibb was telling us murder was acceptable as long as it was self defense only a couple of weeks ago but punching a definite no no

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Weird tibb was telling us murder was acceptable as long as it was self defense only a couple of weeks ago but punching a definite no no

White people can murder people in ‘self defense’ but heaven forbid black people defend themselves against violent racists

‘Angry lefties!! ’

[Vanessa]

Violence is never acceptable in any circumstances.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Liam-

White people can murder people in ‘self defense’ but heaven forbid black people defend themselves against violent racists

‘Angry lefties!! ’

Neither is defensible, neither was self-defense. Self defense is action you have to take to stop an immediate and active attack. Going in swinging on someone who has backed down is retaliation. If someone is hitting you and you hit back to make them stop then you're defending yourself. If someone punches you in the face and then a few minutes later you walk over and punch them in the face, you're both guilty of assault.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Neither is defensible, neither was self-defense. Self defense is action you have to take to stop an immediate and active attack. Going in swinging on someone who has backed down is retaliation. If someone is hitting you and you hit back to make them stop then you're defending yourself. If someone punches you in the face and then a few minutes later you walk over and punch them in the face, you're both guilty of assault.

‘Other passengers stand between the arguing parties and try to defuse the situation, while encouraging the two black commuters to leave the bus.

They do, but more angry words are exchanged before the pensioner jumps to his feet and appears to swing at the black passengers.

He is then punched several times, leaving him with a black eye and a bump on his head.‘

They were leaving, he got up to them and swung at them, they didn’t ‘go back’ to him.

[Ammi]

...not wishing to open a whole can of worms/..type thing...I know that some older people can have quite prejudiced views on race as well as other things and it can never be excused as a generation thing because it was prejudice back in the day and remains prejudice...but since the referendum/result...it feels that those prejudices are much more vocal, rather than staying within the head and thoughts...which if they have to be felt and could never be changed, is the best place for them...

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We can’t all be perfect and not react when a racist abuses someone and takes a swing first

You need to be locked up if you cant control your emotions without attacking someone.

[Liam-]

If you don’t want to get smacked, don’t take a swing at someone, it’s as simple as that, old person or not, people shouldn’t be expected to keep their cool and behave when a bigot racially abuses them and takes a swing at them

[UserSince2005]

imagine trying to justify an old man being attacked. embarrassing.

[Liam-]

Ah, they got back on the bus, but the old guy got up and swung first so, sorry, he asked for it

[Liam-]

If a violent old bigot started calling me a ******, puff, queer, pillow biter or whatnot and then took a swing at me then sorry, but I was raised to defend myself, I’m not gonna potentially take a beating from a bigot because they’re old, not happening I’m afraid

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If a violent old bigot started calling me a ******, puff, queer, pillow biter or whatnot and then took a swing at me then sorry, but I was raised to defend myself, I’m not gonna potentially take a beating from a bigot because they’re old, not happening I’m afraid

..yeah...(...from the vid that we can see atm...)... the older guy did actively appear to pursue the physical, as well as his verbal abuse...so obviously never condoning violence....it would surely be a ‘self defence’ and a ‘was it reasonable force’, type thing...and it went out of shot a bit so hopefully the police could determine that...