[Crimson Dynamo]

its far more about snowflakes and faux outrage/media than about racism

id say, in mo, 99.9% of people did not really get it or give 2 fcks about it

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They won't sack him, if they do thats the Apprentice down the drain, as he puts up the money??? unless they offer BBC jobs to the winner...

He has more money and success than he needs. I'm sure he wouldn't care less if the beeb decided to end his show, and as LT says, it's faux outrage that is the order of the day

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

He has more money and success than he needs. I'm sure he wouldn't care less if the beeb decided to end his show, and as LT says, it's faux outrage that is the order of the day

Of course it is, if you flip it around its a bit insulting to the beach sellers because their occupation is being dissed

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It was ill judged but I have seen worse jokes about potatos on here..

Spudulike me to tell another?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Spudulike me to tell another?

waits for the outrage...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Spudulike me to tell another?

Trust you to CHIP in Alf,

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

waits for the outrage...

Yeah, mash will be along in a bit...pointing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

waits for the outrage...

As an Irish person the outrage is meant to come from you... :/

I don't think you have the hang of this outrage thing at all

Luckily there are those who can and do stand up for you when directly mocked. Being diminished as exhibiting 'faux' outrage shouldn't stop anyone from challenging a stereotype.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As an Irish person the outrage is meant to come from you... :/



Luckily there are those who can and do stand up for you when directly mocked.

who?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As an Irish person the outrage is meant to come from you... :/

I don't think you have the hang of this outrage thing at all

Luckily there are those who can and do stand up for you when directly mocked. Being diminished as exhibiting 'faux' outrage shouldn't stop anyone from challenging a stereotype.

Irish people generally don't get offended about the Potato stuff, although if you really think about it, it is an awful thing to joke about, over a million people actually died during the famine and another million emigrated. I think alot of people don't really know much about it though or how bad it really was

*I do really like Potatoes though

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As an Irish person the outrage is meant to come from you... :/

I don't think you have the hang of this outrage thing at all

Luckily there are those who can and do stand up for you when directly mocked. Being diminished as exhibiting 'faux' outrage shouldn't stop anyone from challenging a stereotype.

Are they all Senaglese complaining?


why aren't you outraged on my behalf and your own, aren't you part Irish?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Irish people generally don't get offended about the Potato stuff, although if you really think about it, it is an awful thing to joke about, over a million people actually died during the famine and another million emigrated. I think alot of people don't really know much about it though or how bad it really was

*I do really like Potatoes though

its not about the famine tho, the joke is about your love of tatties

like scots get mean and alcoholics and english get pompous royal cow-tailing milk-sops and the welsh get sheep-shagging inbreds etc

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its far more about snowflakes and faux outrage/media than about racism

id say, in mo, 99.9% of people did not really get it or give 2 fcks about it

It's not really about how many people give a sh*t though is it?

Something is either racist or it isn't, regardless of how many people care or notice.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's not really about how many people give a sh*t though is it?

Something is either racist or it isn't, regardless of how many people care or notice.

and who decides that?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and who decides that?

Decides what? What's racist? Nobody. It's factual.

Like something being blue or green. It either is or it isn't.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its not about the famine tho, the joke is about your love of tatties

Of course it is. If it weren't for the famine you think the Irish would still be associated with potatoes?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are they all Senaglese complaining?

Doubt it.

Just as I doubt Alan Sugar was suggesting all beach sellers are Senagalese.

He was referring to their skin colour/how they look. Which makes the tasteless joke racist rather than xenophobic.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its not about the famine tho, the joke is about your love of tatties

like scots get mean and alcoholics and english get pompous royal cow-tailing milk-sops and the welsh get sheep-shagging inbreds etc

Yeah I know but the whole love for Potatoes comes from the fact that back before the famine (and why the failing potato crops actually caused a famine for Irish people) Irish people were only eating potatoes because they mostly only had tiny plots of land to try and grow food to survive on and Potatoes were the only way they could produce enough to live on. Basically, why irish people are linked with Potatoes in the first place was to avoid starvation while working for British landthievesLords

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Doubt it.

Just as I doubt Alan Sugar was suggesting all beach sellers are Senagalese.

He was referring to their skin colour/how they look. Which makes the tasteless joke racist rather than xenophobic.

Yes it was ill judged, does it deserve all the attention it is getting, no it doesn't

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes it was ill judged, does it deserve all the attention it is getting, no it doesn't

I never said it did.
Like I said before I don't think he intended anything other than a harmless joke. It is racist, however. And he was naive to think it wouldn't get a bad reception in the first place.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are they all Senaglese complaining?


why aren't you outraged on my behalf and your own, aren't you part Irish?

Some , does it matter?

This 'celebrity' didn't mention potatoes, had he shown the Irish team with a few dead bodies and some rotten potatoes strewn around them then yes, I would be having a say on that.
However your glib reference doesn't inspire much outrage sorry.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are they all Senaglese complaining?


why aren't you outraged on my behalf and your own, aren't you part Irish?

According to Ancestry UK, I am 5% Irish. Who Knew! No one in our family...

Anyhoo, I'm outraged Cherie. Similarly, when I wrote a song about Niamh last Christmas for Eurovision and threw just about every negative Irish stereotype at her, she was outraged too.

Oh no hang on... she laughed.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As an Irish person the outrage is meant to come from you... :/

I don't think you have the hang of this outrage thing at all

Luckily there are those who can and do stand up for you when directly mocked. Being diminished as exhibiting 'faux' outrage shouldn't stop anyone from challenging a stereotype.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Some , does it matter?

This 'celebrity' didn't mention potatoes, had he shown the Irish team with a few dead bodies and some rotten potatoes strewn around them then yes, I would be having a say on that.
However your glib reference doesn't inspire much outrage sorry.

Not 5 minutes ago you were suggesting I should be outraged, I can't keep up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Of course it is. If it weren't for the famine you think the Irish would still be associated with potatoes?

Of course hence why the blight on the potato was do devastating, we did not have a whisky famine in scotland to get a rep for drink

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

According to Ancestry UK, I am 5% Irish. Who Knew! No one in our family...

Anyhoo, I'm outraged Cherie. Similarly, when I wrote a song about Niamh last Christmas for Eurovision and threw just about every negative Irish stereotype at her, she was outraged too.

Oh no hang on... she laughed.

Of course she laughed, she didn't want a smack in the face.

You have a reputation round here.

Whilst we're here, let poor Kizzy out of that headlock!