[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

So what do you think should happen now?

Should the Police get involved?
Should the BBC fire him?
Should he be branded a racist for the rest of his days?
Should he give money to a charity?
Or now that he's apologised, shall we just move on?
Or something else?

I don't know nor do I care. Like I said, I don't think any offence was intended by him and like him.

I was responding to you claiming it's not a racist joke, when it is.

But you continue deflecting and moving the goalposts of the discussion. Carry on.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You don't see where race comes into it?

So, he'd have used this joke alongside an image of ANY football team then, right?

idk, if any nationalities sell wares in Marbella then yes
he could have cracked a joke about Polish players doing his bathroom too
I get there's an issue otherwise they'd be no backlash, but I just don't see it, can't help it

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't know nor do I care. Like I said, I don't think any offence was intended by him and like him.

I was responding to you claiming it's not a racist joke, when it is.

But you continue deflecting and moving the goalposts of the discussion. Carry on.

Did I claim it wasn't a racist joke? I thought I just said that we can't keep shouting racist every time a non White is the punchline.

[Matthew.]

his twitter is such a mess

selling a box of pick and mix! only Ł15

and now this

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

his twitter is such a mess

selling a box of pick and mix! only Ł15

and now this

I think those sweets are the business of the lady that won the apprentice.

15 notes for a few little sweets is highway robbery. You'd have to be made of money to purchase them.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Did I claim it wasn't a racist joke? I thought I just said that we can't keep shouting racist every time a non White is the punchline.

Implying the joke doesn't deserve the racist tag?

If you thought it was racist you wouldn't have a problem with it being called such.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Alf

I think those sweets are the business of the lady that won the apprentice.

15 notes for a few little sweets is highway robbery. You'd have to be made of money to purchase them.

yeah they are

and Ł15 for the Sweets in the City or Ł1 for a wee tub of them down at the Co-Op - I’ll go Co-Op, ta

his excuse for the high prices is that they come in a nice little box with a personalised message

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

idk, if any nationalities sell wares in Marbella then yes
he could have cracked a joke about Polish players doing his bathroom too
I get there's an issue otherwise they'd be no backlash, but I just don't see it, can't help it

As long as you don't think that because you don't see the issue that there isn't an issue.

But you don't seem to be be so that's fair enough.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

idk, if any nationalities sell wares in Marbella then yes
he could have cracked a joke about Polish players doing his bathroom too
I get there's an issue otherwise they'd be no backlash, but I just don't see it, can't help it

He didn't say it because beach sellers are always from Senegal though, he said it because beach sellers are pretty much always black. He probably would have said it about any African team

It's clearly disrespectful to take a pic of a team of professional footballers representing their country at the World Cup and basically say 'lol black guys, look like they should be selling sunglasses'

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He didn't say it because beach sellers are always from Senegal though, he said it because beach sellers are pretty much always black. He probably would have said it about any African team

It's clearly disrespectful to take a pic of a team of professional footballers representing their country at the World Cup and basically say 'lol black guys, look like they should be selling sunglasses'

Exactly.

[Twosugars]

ok, understand it better now
didn't know beach sellers are usually black, never go to crowded beaches/resorts
still, I'd call it condescending rather than racist, as to me it's more about economic status, but not gonna argue
like I said to Marsh, there's clearly an issue so not gonna pretend it's not racist only because I can't see it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He didn't say it because beach sellers are always from Senegal though, he said it because beach sellers are pretty much always black. He probably would have said it about any African team

It's clearly disrespectful to take a pic of a team of professional footballers representing their country at the World Cup and basically say 'lol black guys, look like they should be selling sunglasses'

Is it not they wear colourful clothes and or footy tops?

And are always black?

[Marsh.]

Well no, since many people wear colourful clothes and footie tops.

Just like... every other team at the World Cup and if you think any other team are interchangeable and he would've made the same comment/joke about ANY football team is being wilfully blind.

[Nicky91]

many of the world cup teams have lovely outfits i guess

I Love Senegal's bc i Always like colourful outfits

[Kizzy]

What is laughable is when you have people actually saying they are offended at his 'joke' and yet white people still can't see what's wrong... there must be something wrong with them...no sense of humour or something clearly, if this rich white man can't make a funny on twitter :/

'Osasu Obayiuwana, the British-Nigerian associate editor of New African magazine and contributor to the BBC’s World Football show, wrote: “Dear ⁦@Lord_Sugar⁩, I’m afraid no Senegalese or African will see this as funny. What you wrote was hurtful and plays to a racist stereotype. If you really don’t see what’s wrong with what you’ve written, you have a lot to learn still. You should know better!”'

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...cup-team-tweet

[arista]

[Beso]

http://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.st...001.html%3famp



You couldnt make this **** up.

[arista]

[Ms Butler, Labour MP for Brent Central, has said the BBC, which airs Lord Sugar's reality programme The Apprentice, should take "swift action" against him.]
From above link

Its getting worse.
Maybe he should Go live on every TV News
and clear this UP.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

[Ms Butler, Labour MP for Brent Central, has said the BBC, which airs Lord Sugar's reality programme The Apprentice, should take "swift action" against him.]
From above link

Its getting worse.
Maybe he should Go live on every TV News
and clear this UP.

The BBC allows Diane Abbott on, so it would be a bit hypocritical of them.

[Jake.]

I wonder if he would have taken so kindly to a joke stereotyping Jewish people

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I wonder if he would have taken so kindly to a joke stereotyping Jewish people

as jews make more jokes sending themselves up than any race or religion i would say yes

[Kazanne]

Blimey,how over the top,really not worth losing his job for,he has apologized,much worse has been said about Jews,did they lose their jobs ? NO, they are still employed.

[Northern Monkey]

No jokes allowed anymore.He can only hope the BBC use some sense(though i doubt they will).

[Cherie]

They won't sack him, if they do thats the Apprentice down the drain, as he puts up the money??? unless they offer BBC jobs to the winner...

[Cherie]

It was ill judged but I have seen worse jokes about potatos on here..