[Vanessa]

Power to the people! Very well done to the people of Epping. All they want is do is protect their kids.
If the government won't do it then they will.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Power to the people! Very well done to the people of Epping. All they want is do is protect their kids.
If the government won't do it then they will.

I get that but you only have to look at the pedo hunter videos to see there are a lot of white British men wanting to meet kids

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I get that but you only have to look at the pedo hunter videos to see there are a lot of white British men wanting to meet kids

Thats the point isn't it there are more than enough here already, we dont need to be importing more especially from countries where women do not have the same rights and men do not view women as equal

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I get that but you only have to look at the pedo hunter videos to see there are a lot of white British men wanting to meet kids

Exactly so lets not welcome in more undocumented young men who we have no idea about and house them in hotels in built-up areas where they hang about all day with nothing to do.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thats the point isn't it there are more than enough here already, we dont need to be importing more especially from countries where women do not have the same rights and men do not view women as equal

The problem as I see it we need to treat people as individuals
We are definitely not dealing with immigrants in the right way but we can’t be label every one as a potential sex attacker

[thesheriff443]

Any one given the chance to get out of a third world country and into a first world country is going to take it

They didn’t make a big deal of it but three girls two teenagers and a nine year old drowned the other day

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Any one given the chance to get out of a third world country and into a first world country is going to take it

They didn’t make a big deal of it but three girls two teenagers and a nine year old drowned the other day

That’s because it doesn’t fit the agenda of “they’re all men”

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Any one given the chance to get out of a third world country and into a first world country is going to take it

They didn’t make a big deal of it but three girls two teenagers and a nine year old drowned the other day

Stop the boats, stop the drownings.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thats the point isn't it there are more than enough here already, we dont need to be importing more especially from countries where women do not have the same rights and men do not view women as equal

That's exactly the point Cherie.


To know it's happening already, and then allow something that has already guaranteed that more happens, in the shape of these illigals crossing on the boats undocumented. To still allow those crossings knowing that it will guarantee 1 more teenage girl tonsugger at the hands of one of them is something each and every British national should be deeply ashamed about.

Well I say NO..No bloody more


I won't accept that guilt, I will actively try and do everything I lawfully can to prevent that one girls suffering

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Any one given the chance to get out of a third world country and into a first world country is going to take it

They didn’t make a big deal of it but three girls two teenagers and a nine year old drowned the other day

Was it just them that drowned?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Any one given the chance to get out of a third world country and into a first world country is going to take it

They didn’t make a big deal of it but three girls two teenagers and a nine year old drowned the other day

Yes and they travel through many safe countries to get here because UK is a soft touch when they land on the beaches in Spain they disperse as soon as they land they are not picked up by the Guardia Civil they are allowed to just go because they know they will travel onwards through France to cross to true UK..the Spanish are not fools

[Cherie]

Btw the UK used to be a first world country, now you have old folks denied heating allowances, the disabled are told to get back to work if you know whats good for you, you cant get a GP appointment for weeks, you have to wait for hours in A and E, no one can access a NHS dentist, the rivers are full of ****, energy prices are the highest in Europe, rents are through the roof, you cant get a weekly shop for under 200 quid, the care system is on its knees, people are losing their jobs, the hospitality sector has lost 90,000 jobs this year, but meanwhile young fit men are given bed and board and an allowance, and get to work in the black economy and pay zero tax, if you cant see why people are angry there is no hope for you.

[Beso]

Some of the boats ones are the ones that made it to europe but then committed heinous crimes i places like France, Holland and Germany. They are fleeing prosecution from European countries. To us. Hence the no documentation.

So said one decent immigrant, tied up in all the red tape because of the scum bags.

Mental eh!

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Beso

Was it just them that drowned?

Yes

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Yes

Sounds well dodgy to me! What do you think? My minds buzzing with all kinds of things that shouldnt be posted on TIBB.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Btw the UK used to be a first world country, now you have old folks denied heating allowances, the disabled are told to get back to work if you know whats good for you, you cant get a GP appointment for weeks, you have to wait for hours in A and E, no one can access a NHS dentist, the rivers are full of ****, energy prices are the highest in Europe, rents are through the roof, you cant get a weekly shop for under 200 quid, the care system is on its knees, people are losing their jobs, the hospitality sector has lost 90,000 jobs this year, but meanwhile young fit men are given bed and board and an allowance, and get to work in the black economy and pay zero tax, if you cant see why people are angry there is no hope for you.

I agree.. and i live in an area where the rivers are full of salmon.

Until a nasty rich man hooks them all out. Before pissing back to where he cameth.. dam you Ian Botham. All about the elephants with you, eh!

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Btw the UK used to be a first world country, now you have old folks denied heating allowances, the disabled are told to get back to work if you know whats good for you, you cant get a GP appointment for weeks, you have to wait for hours in A and E, no one can access a NHS dentist, the rivers are full of ****, energy prices are the highest in Europe, rents are through the roof, you cant get a weekly shop for under 200 quid, the care system is on its knees, people are losing their jobs, the hospitality sector has lost 90,000 jobs this year, but meanwhile young fit men are given bed and board and an allowance, and get to work in the black economy and pay zero tax, if you cant see why people are angry there is no hope for you.

I completely can see why people are angry, but many people are angry at the wrong people.

Pretending it’s the fault of the 180,000 migrants that have come across in small boats in the last 6 years is the issue.

Do you really think there is merit in suggesting the life of the average Brit is worse because of 0.2% of the country’s population? More people attend Glastonbury.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I completely can see why people are angry, but many people are angry at the wrong people.

Pretending it’s the fault of the 180,000 migrants that have come across in small boats in the last 6 years is the issue.

Do you really think there is merit in suggesting the life of the average Brit is worse because of 0.2% of the country’s population? More people attend Glastonbury.

"the billionaires that are the problem not the refugees"

we know the socialist worker mantra

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

"the billionaires that are the problem not the refugees"

we know the socialist worker mantra

How does that boot taste, buddy?

I am not a socialist, but sorry anyone who thinks it’s migrants who are making their life worse and not the people hoarding wealth, dodging tax and governments making decisions that benefit themselves and their mates is either purposefully ignorant or just dense.

If they removed all migrants who came over on small boats and are put up in hotels you would not notice any kind of difference to the quality of your life, I promise you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

How does that boot taste, buddy?

I am not a socialist, but sorry anyone who thinks it’s migrants who are making their life worse and not the people hoarding wealth, dodging tax and governments making decisions that benefit themselves and their mates is either purposefully ignorant or just dense.

If they removed all migrants who came over on small boats and are put up in hotels you would not notice any kind of difference to the quality of your life, I promise you.

sigh

is it this boot?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I completely can see why people are angry, but many people are angry at the wrong people.

Pretending it’s the fault of the 180,000 migrants that have come across in small boats in the last 6 years is the issue.

Do you really think there is merit in suggesting the life of the average Brit is worse because of 0.2% of the country’s population? More people attend Glastonbury.

I don't disagree in principal, but the public want to at least FEEL like they are being looked after by their government, during covid Furlough gave us that feeling as did the money the Tories spent on topping up peoples electricity bills, its all about optics, the current optics are terrible, the UK is one of the only countries in Europe to put illegals up in hotels, while people are struggling to keep everything together even while working all the hours God sends, there is a suspicion as well that they are feathering hotel owners pockets with tax payer cash, meanwhile we hear with Pat McFadden movingt to the DWP welfare will be targetted again. I dont think people would care that much about men coming on boats if they weren't hanging around town centres, they are just far too visible and an easy target

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't disagree in principal, but the public want to at least FEEL like they are being looked after by their government, during covid Furlough gave us that feeling as did the money the Tories spent on topping up peoples electricity bills, its all about optics, the current optics are terrible, the UK is one of the only countries in Europe to put illegals up in hotels, while people are struggling to keep everything together even while working all the hours God sends, there is a suspicion as well that they are feathering hotel owners pockets with tax payer cash, meanwhile we hear with Pat McFadden movingt to the DWP welfare will be targetted again. I dont think people would care that much about men coming on boats if they weren't hanging around town centres, they are just far too visible and an easy target

I agree the Government should (and could) do more. That isn’t the fault of people coming over on small boats. People are bothered by them because they’re being told they’re to blame, and people are falling for it. And you are right, they are an easy target, but not a legitimate one.

It’s the same as when people are told migrants are a risk to society. Last summer almost half of those arrested for protesting migrants “in the name of the safety of women and girls” had previously been reported to the police for domestic abuse.

You have to question why people who have previously beaten up women are out protesting in defence of the safety of women against migrants. Do you think these people legitimately care about women’s safety or do you think they’re using an inflated scaremongering reason to hide their racist agenda.

The governments and media who place the blame of the poor job Government is doing on minority groups are enabling this division.

As I said above, if they sent all migrants who arrived here on small boats back to their country or origin the life of the average Brit wouldn’t improve. Pensions wouldn’t suddenly get a their heating paid for them and the disabled wouldn’t suddenly get their benefits reinstated.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I agree the Government should (and could) do more. That isn’t the fault of people coming over on small boats. People are bothered by them because they’re being told they’re to blame, and people are falling for it. And you are right, they are an easy target, but not a legitimate one.

It’s the same as when people are told migrants are a risk to society. Last summer almost half of those arrested for protesting migrants “in the name of the safety of women and girls” had previously been reported to the police for domestic abuse.

You have to question why people who have previously beaten up women are out protesting in defence of the safety of women against migrants. Do you think these people legitimately care about women’s safety or do you think they’re using an inflated scaremongering reason to hide their racist agenda.

The governments and media who place the blame of the poor job Government is doing on minority groups are enabling this division.

As I said above, if they sent all migrants who arrived here on small boats back to their country or origin the life of the average Brit wouldn’t improve. Pensions wouldn’t suddenly get a their heating paid for them and the disabled wouldn’t suddenly get their benefits reinstated.

Like I said its about optics, if they were at least seen to be listening to the people who pay their over inflated salaries it would go some way to de escalating the issue, I dont know how it is so difficult for the government to come out and say we hear you, we are working hard on resolving the issues you have, saying we will stop using hotels by 2029 which conveniently is the year of the next GE is not good enough, instead they are calling people racists and far right and generally looking down on on the people who put them there, we are working on reducing your energy bills, we are working on not moving the pension age to 70 if we can, instead of not sure we can afford the triple lock which is just pensions rising by the inflation rate not sure what is triple about it, I dont know if many of them have anything between their ears or they are so removed from peoples every day reality they just dont get it

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Like I said its about optics, if they were at least seen to be listening to the people who pay their over inflated salaries it would go some way to de escalating the issue, I dont know how it is so difficult for the government to come out and say we hear you, we are working hard on resolving the issues you have, saying we will stop using hotels by 2029 which conveniently is the year of the next GE is not good enough, instead they are calling people racists and far right and generally looking down on on the people who put them there, we are working on reducing your energy bills, we are working on not moving the pension age to 70 if we can, instead of not sure we can afford the triple lock which is just pensions rising by the inflation rate not sure what is triple about it, I dont know if many of them have anything between their ears or they are so removed from peoples every day reality they just dont get it

it's a pension triple lock because it takes the highest value from annual growth rate, annual inflation rate or a minimum of 2.5%

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bots

it's a pension triple lock because it takes the highest value from annual growth rate, annual inflation rate or a minimum of 2.5%

oh right, it just makes it sounds like pensioners are getting some amazing triple increment