[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

tbh, I don't even find people falling over funny, you've been framed is crap. Don't tell me what I think, how could you possibly know?

I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Enid

Schadenfreude is the word to describe that. We all love to watch others suffer - from silly little things like falling over, to crashing and burning to death. It's human nature. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I might find it funny if it was some cocky little twit showing off and tripping up and making a fool of himself - but I wouldn't find it funny if it was an 80 year old who fell over and broke their hip - big difference!

Point proved.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

[Harry!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm trying to think of comparisons, the only one I can think of from the past was Harry's first graphics shop. Plenty of 'bullying' like behaviour went on in that thread, and no posts were deleted, even though numerous posts from mods were made, and it took 28 pages before the thread was eventually closed.

That's unheard of now.

Yes I agree with that post (Maybe as it has my name, You never know). There was a few 'bullies' in that thread and locking of it was partly my option. Other graphics shops were locked for other reasons. But yet again I was at fault also by being a 'diva' as it were. They failed looking back now. Never again.

[\PJ/]

People hate to admit they find bad things funny because they care to much about what others think.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Enid

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

I think what you are talking about is curiosity - which is based on fear - but it is far too sweeping a statement to say that subconciously we all like to see others suffer in any serious kind of way!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.

So I'm feeling it then? I'm just trying to understand what you mean by that, I know I don't enjoy it so what do you mean by subconsciously exactly?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by .PJ.

People hate to admit they find bad things funny because they care to much about what others think.

I think most would draw the line at My Family?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Enid

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

Because we don't want to be taken for a fool

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Enid

Without this, You've Been Framed would not exist, and that is a classic TV show.

I dread to think how many babies and young kids lives have been put at risk because daddy wanted to win £500 by sending in a "hilarious" video clip of his baby somersaulting off a swing or falling headfirst off a highchair.

Stupid irresponsible show. And faker than Pammys t*ts.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Zippy

I dread to think how many babies and young kids lives have been put at risk because daddy wanted to win £500 by sending in a "hilarious" video clip of his baby somersaulting off a swing or falling headfirst off a highchair.

Stupid irresponsible show. And faker than Pammys t*ts.

That isn't the point.

Fake or not, we still watch it, and it makes us laugh. How else is it so popular?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Enid

That isn't the point.

Fake or not, we still watch it, and it makes us laugh. How else is it so popular?

I don't watch it, I think it's stupid tbh

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't watch it, I think it's stupid tbh

Why do you think many people do watch it though?

[Enid]

I'm sorry, this has become some irrelevant debate now, hahah.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Enid

Why do you think many people do watch it though?

I understand what you're saying but like I said I can only speak for myself and what I think and what I feel.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

So I'm feeling it then? I'm just trying to understand what you mean by that, I know I don't enjoy it so what do you mean by subconsciously exactly?

Your subconscious as in, say, the thoughts that never get thunk [?!]. Your conscious mind is made up of thoughts you decided to drag up from the subconscious. That's who you are. All those other junk thoughts and who you are not, they stay down in the subconscious. Who knows, it could be in my subconscious to be a murderer. That shouldn't shock you. What matters is what makes it to the conscious state and the choices you make. That defines who you are.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Enid

That isn't the point.

Fake or not, we still watch it, and it makes us laugh. How else is it so popular?

Because the masses are dumb. Wasn't that long ago that public hangings were all the rage. No doubt they'd still pull in the crowds if brought back.

Personally, seeing people, especially children, get hurt just makes me cringe. And Im a huge horror film fan! But real suffering is different.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Your subconscious as in, say, the thoughts that never get thunk [?!]. Your conscious mind is made up of thoughts you decided to drag up from the subconscious. That's who you are. All those other junk thoughts and who you are not, they stay down in the subconscious. Who knows, it could be in my subconscious to be a murderer. That shouldn't shock you. What matters is what makes it to the conscious state and the choices you make. That defines who you are.

So how could anybody possibly know what is in our subconscious mind If they haven't been thought at all?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

So how could anybody possibly know what is in our subconscious mind If they haven't been thought at all?

Beats me. I'm not a neurological scientist. But neurological scientists exist.

Your dreams, for instance, are often a result of your subconscious slipping in and taking control when you fall asleep.

[Enid]

Survival of the fittest and social comparison. That's all it is really.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Beats me. I'm not a neurological scientist. But neurological scientists exist.

Your dreams, for instance, are often a result of your subconscious slipping in and taking control when you fall asleep.

even if neurological scientists can see what thoughts are in your subconscious, every person is different so they still couldn't say for definite that every person enjoys watching others suffer unless they've tested every person (or whatever they do)

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

even if neurological scientists can see what thoughts are in your subconscious, every person is different so they still couldn't say for definite that every person enjoys watching others suffer unless they've tested every person (or whatever they do)

They can't see specific thoughts. It's not like a cystal ball nestling in the basement of a neuroscience lab. But evolution has afforded us all certain things. Girls have vaginas. Men have dicks. We all share certain thought patterns and whatnot. Amongst them, the instinctual ability to take pleasure from human suffering.

It's not a case of 'everyone is different'. Everyone is different, yes, consciously speaking. But we are not consciously speaking, here.

Why do children have an instinctual fear of monsters? Because in the early stages of human evolution, our predecessors were snatched away in the jaws of cougars at night.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jords

Its actually a bit ridiculous that you cant see reasons why infractions were given and threads were closed. You gotta look at it in 2 frames of minds, yes it may be funny to some (I admit to finding somethings funny) or just a debate, but it may offend others and it is not appropriate so deal with the consequences.

I disagree with Smithy getting an infraction for arguing though, plenty of that happens on here.

You're missing the point. I can see why the threads were locked/infractions were handed out. I can see that.

All I'm trying to say is that:

A) The forum has become stricter than it was
B) It's a Big Brother forum, which is related to adult content, as I've already been through a thousand times.

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Insults Deleted.

A strict forum that really wanted to keep the place clean looking would ban both offensive members and members who are ... well ... stupid? As it stands we have a great policy on banning people for making offensive jokes but absoloutely no policy at all on trolltastic Edit language who could be viewed as a benig offensive to humanity.

Edit of us filthy young things with our bad language but yeah. I wouldn't say this place is strict. Although locking that disaster thread was incredibly stupid. You don't like the thread? Aww. Leave then. I don't like plenty of threads. Can we close them based soley on my opinion or is that a luxury confined to moderators?

On a strict forum, we would never have had to put up with the MeMyself&I trouble becauce the IP would have been banned first day. Jobs done, case closed, thank you and don't come again.

And seriously - how stupid is the obligation to close threads that offend people? Can these people not find the back button? Do they need the thread to be vaccum sealed and shot into space to sleep soundly at night?

Plus as Sticks said - GIVE REASONS WHY YOUR CLOSING YOUR THREADS. Do your job properly peeps. Nobody ever explains what's going on and we then have a further four threads wondering what's going on. Usually they end up locked too.

Insults deleted.

Couldn't have put that any ****ing better. How I wish I could have seen the edited bits, though

Originally Posted by Zippy

But its good for members like Jack to keep questioning how the wheels turn here. As long as he's doing it from a genuine place then it's all good. Im not here enough to really give a monkeys. But he is and seems to really care about the place and how it's run.

Exactly, and thanks

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Jack just wants to tell dirty jokes!

Again, someone else who is completely missing the point of the thread and is choosing to ignore posts. This isn't about dirty jokes. Hell, we even got our thread, and it wasn't closed. I'm over it. This is a seperate matter. Good lord.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Enid

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

Nah, I think that's masochistic behaviour, which we all have a natural tendency to partake in from time to time. And then yeah, there's a sadistic element in all humans, which is more pronounced in some individuals.