[Beso]

Originally Posted by bobnot

We have had things so good for so long we take it for granted and have become a spoilt nation that moans about the littlest thing.
Instead of being proud of what we have got brits seem to concentrate on any negative they can find. Compared to most countrys we have a hell of a lot to be proud of but dont seem to see it.
If we are so weak why does half the world want to live here?

because you are so weak

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Zippy

if anybody sucks up attention in this forum its definitely YOU!

and you need to sharpen your reading, comprehension and perception skills.

As I've told you before dear - if you don't like my posts stick me on ignore - VOILA job done.

My reading, comprehension and perception skills have served me well throughout my life - I have both BSc(Hons) and BA(Hons) degrees in Sociology and Psychology respectively; several assorted diplomas in Health and Social Welfare; a PGCE, an ILEX qualification and I speak several languages as well as having a more than respectable grasp of my own mother tongue. I can confidently assert that my qualifications are probably far superior to your own!

It is you, dear Zippo, who needs to attend to your own lack of education before throwing insults around about others.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by letmein

The BBC is not funded by the government.

Remind me again who collects the license fees then? remind me again who enforces the license fee? Enlighten me.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Remind me again who collects the license fees then? remind me again who enforces the license fee? Enlighten me.

No worries.

Its "licence".

Funny isnt it licence and licensing. Quirky eh?

[Beastie]

I like England. I am proud that I was born in England.

It obviously is a popular place, hence why it is now densley populated.

Some foreigners at work asked me ages ago to name things what I like about the UK/England. They said they can name like 50 things..

One foreigner at work has kept goading on at me.. saying.. "I am not English". << Mmm can't really call this racist. It is kind of like reverse racism. He is being annoying now. 3 days in a row at work he has said to me I am not English. :S

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Beastie

I like England. I am proud that I was born in England.

It obviously is a popular place, hence why it is now densley populated.

Some foreigners at work asked me ages ago to name things what I like about the UK/England. They said they can name like 50 things..

One foreigner at work has kept goading on at me.. saying.. "I am not English". << Mmm can't really call this racist. It is kind of like reverse racism. He is being annoying now. 3 days in a row at work he has said to me I am not English. :S

The fact he is making a comment about your racial origin is racist by the definitions of the Race Relations Act, since the comment is designed to upset and harrass you. - report him.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by angus58

The fact he is making a comment about your racial origin is racist by the definitions of the Race Relations Act, since the comment is designed to upset and harrass you. - report him.

Mmm I might do. But then I fear it could get twisted around. Make more harm than good for myself. I am just going to ignore him.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Beastie

Mmm I might do. But then I fear it could get twisted around. Make more harm than good for myself. I am just going to ignore him.

I do see your point, but personally I would report him simply because it is too often assumed that racism is a one way street, and that view should be challenged sometimes. Good luck.

[MTVN]

Course it's not racist to say "I am not English", dont be so ridiculous

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by angus58

I do see your point, but personally I would report him simply because it is too often assumed that racism is a one way street, and that view should be challenged sometimes. Good luck.

Thanks Angus

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Course it's not racist to say "I am not English", dont be so ridiculous

Noo someone said to me that I am not English.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Beastie

Noo someone said to me that I am not English.

Oh right, well why were they saying that?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Beastie

Noo someone said to me that I am not English.

well thats not racist either

just stupid

assuming you are English...

[Angus]

Race Relations Act 1976

[F4] 3A Harassment

(1)A person subjects another to harassment in any circumstances relevant for the purposes of any provision referred to in section 1(1B) where, on grounds of race or ethnic or national origins, he engages in unwanted conduct which has the purpose or effect of—.
(a)violating that other person’s dignity, or.
(b)creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for him..
(2)Conduct shall be regarded as having the effect specified in paragraph (a) or (b) of subsection (1) only if, having regard to all the circumstances, including in particular the perception of that other person, it should reasonably be considered as having that effect.].

Beastie this is the relevant section of the Act (which I think was amended and included in 2000) if you decide to report this guy.

[Rob]

i think we are far from being a weak nation

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

While travelling I came across many people from other countries and many of who said that England was a weak nation as we are cowardly, let other nations walk all over us, cannot stand up for ourselves and that we are generally a laughable nation.

Do you agree with this?

Relative to previous centuries, 21st century England absolutely is a weak nation. But this is a trend for all western nations and England could easily rectify it by doing the following:

Immediately secede from the EU. Tell the illegals to get back on the banana boats they came from or be forcibly removed. Stop incorporating Sharia Law into judicial decisions.

And for extra credit, consider doing the following: Allow citizens to own firearms. Ban gay marriage. Bring back the death penalty.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Relative to previous centuries, 21st century England absolutely is a weak nation. But this is a trend for all western nations and England could easily rectify it by doing the following:

Immediately secede from the EU. Tell the illegals to get back on the banana boats they came from or be forcibly removed. Stop incorporating Sharia Law into judicial decisions.

And for extra credit, consider doing the following: Allow citizens to own firearms. Ban gay marriage. Bring back the death penalty.

Not really living up to your username there are you?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not really living up to your username there are you?

Explain how I am not living up to it.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Explain how I am not living up to it.

Banning gay marriage, and taking someone's life, doesnt seem the normal viewpoint of a believer in liberty and the freedom of the individual. What ever gave you the right to take the life of someone else, or tell them they're sexual practices are wrong and not deserving of marriage?

I suppose you're also against abortion?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Banning gay marriage, and taking someone's life, doesnt seem the normal viewpoint of a believer in liberty and the freedom of the individual. What ever gave you the right to take the life of someone else, or tell them they're sexual practices are wrong and not deserving of marriage?

I was giving a list of things England could do to alter people's perception. It doesn't necessarily mean I whole-heartedly believe in them. To be honest I don't think England should really care what other people think of them. If we're gonna make this about what I believe then let me say that I don't think government should be involved in marriage one way or the other. It's a religious instrument and, in my ideal world, the state should stay out of it altogether. I generally am against the death penalty but would be hard-pressed to say that it should never be considered or on the table.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

I was giving a list of things England could do to alter people's perception. It doesn't necessarily mean I whole-heartedly believe in them. To be honest I don't think England should really care what other people think of them. If we're gonna make this about what I believe then let me say that I don't think government should be involved in marriage one way or the other. It's a religious instrument and, in my ideal world, the state should stay out of it altogether. I generally am against the death penalty but would be hard-pressed to say that it should never be considered or on the table.

Ok fair enough then, I agree with most of that, ignore my edit on the other post

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I suppose you're also against abortion?

Absolutely I'm against abortion. Absolutely, 100%, against it. And holding that position does not contradict my username at all because the life and liberty of a baby is of greater importance than a few months of bodily freedom of a woman who got drunk and stupid one night. She can always adopt, ya know.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Absolutely I'm against abortion. Absolutely, 100%, against it. And holding that position does not contradict my username at all because the life and liberty of a baby is of greater importance than a few months of bodily freedom of a woman who got drunk and stupid one night. She can always adopt, ya know.

Hmm it's a difficult issue but I'm in the pro-choice camp. Due to the contentiousness of the issue I think it best not to have a certain view to be imposed one way or the other, and it should be left to the individual to make their own personal decision

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Hmm it's a difficult issue but I'm in the pro-choice camp. Due to the contentiousness of the issue I think it best not to have a certain view to be imposed one way or the other, and it should be left to the individual to make their own personal decision

I just started a thread on abortion, it's an interesting, if not sensitive, subject.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Relative to previous centuries, 21st century England absolutely is a weak nation. But this is a trend for all western nations and England could easily rectify it by doing the following:

Immediately secede from the EU. Tell the illegals to get back on the banana boats they came from or be forcibly removed. Stop incorporating Sharia Law into judicial decisions.

And for extra credit, consider doing the following: Allow citizens to own firearms. Ban gay marriage. Bring back the death penalty.

We couldnt just secede from the EU the economic costs to the country would cripple us. There isnt many turn up on banana boats ( thats quite a racist term you realise in that context), we do forcibly repatriate illegal entrants though not enough. Which Judicial decisions have incorporated Sharia Law?

Citizens dont need the right to bear arms etc they often get into enough troubles themselves without the added bonus of firearms. Bring back the death penalty? Oh right because it really does deter murders etc as we can see from US crime rates. Isnt the death penalty also prescribed in Sharia Law?