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Bridget51 · 16-07-2013, 08:59 AM

Am I going mad or what? Did they not spend the night together after they had both been called to the diary room and before Daley was ejected? She must have been really scared then? She deserves an Oscar

joeysteele · 16-07-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by reece(:

I thought she was scared but was trying not to show it.

I agree, sometimes that can be a defence mechanism.

Kazanne · 16-07-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Or indeed in the same bed!

Funny way of showing her "terror".

Why are people overlooking these facts?

16-07-2013, 09:17 AM

What an absolute bitch. Fancy being terrified when some guy pins you to the bed by your neck, and comes within millimeters of headbutting you.

What a gameplaying slut*****.

I have no idea why Hazel is getting any grief for what happened.

Niamh. · 16-07-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben

But if she was so terrified why did she not sleep elsewhere. BB would have let her if she was that scared. Also as CaudleHalbard pointed out, she went back into the same bed as him. Sorry but something doesn't sit right with this story.

Please don't think I want Daley to stay, his ejection was justified, but she played up to the whole thing.

The fact of the matter is BB called her to the Diary room straight after it happened and asked her what went on and how she felt about it, as far as I could see she told the truth about how she felt, she looked scared and as if she thought he'd crossed a line and she said that, she didn't start shaking or crying or demand he be removed from the house. Maybe after the dust had settled she thought Oh look he was drunk and went a bit far and maybe she forgave him and wanted to "be friends" again........that doesn't mean BB felt the same about it obviously.

Rawrbear · 16-07-2013, 09:43 AM

She did not look terrified but she looked really uncomfortable.

Kazanne · 16-07-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.

What an absolute bitch. Fancy being terrified when some guy pins you to the bed by your neck, and comes within millimeters of headbutting you.

What a gameplaying slut*****.

I have no idea why Hazel is getting any grief for what happened.

I see your point,but also see the point of others pointing out she (after the event) was laughing and joking told him he'de done nothing wrong and then slept with him? that's the part I find weird.

16-07-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I see your point,but also see the point of others pointing out she (after the event) was laughing and joking told him he'de done nothing wrong and then slept with him? that's the part I find weird.

If I was in her position, and had been on the receiving end of his aggression, I doubt I would have been pointing out his flaws that night either. The most telling thing for me, was after it happened, she moved as far away from him as possible, and her body language was definitely self comforting/protecting.

I'm sure husbands that batter their wives (and I'm not saying Daley did), snuggle up after the abuse, and the female would take part in that. There is probably some weird psychology that takes place in these instants.

Hazel isn't to blame for what happened to her, and I don't think she deserved it or made the most of a situation for her own ends. Maybe in the cold light of day, after reflecting on the events and playing them through over and over in her head, she realised exactly what happened, and what could have potentially happened.

smudgie · 16-07-2013, 10:34 AM

Okay. I have obviously missed this evidence of Hazel and Daley sleeping together and cuddling up after all this happened.

I know Daley said they had a cuddle afterwards, but I was assuming he meant the rather awkward hug he gave her when she as going to the diary room.

Would BB really risk putting them both back in the same room after having to intervene when Daley had his hands around her throat...I think not somehow.

Vanessa · 16-07-2013, 10:35 AM

I'm sue she was. The guy is a total nutjob.

Niamh. · 16-07-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm sue she was. The guy is a total nutjob.

I know right? Beggers belief how people are trying to put any blame on Hazel for that. Fair enough she's not a popular HM but for Gods Sake

the truth · 16-07-2013, 10:48 AM

if she was scared why did she try and pull his pants down?

Cherie · 16-07-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie

Okay. I have obviously missed this evidence of Hazel and Daley sleeping together and cuddling up after all this happened.

I know Daley said they had a cuddle afterwards, but I was assuming he meant the rather awkward hug he gave her when she as going to the diary room.

Would BB really risk putting them both back in the same room after having to intervene when Daley had his hands around her throat...I think not somehow.

Smudgie, why in that case were the HMs so gobsmacked by his departure, if Hazel had returned to the main house in the night they would have been aware something had gone on. They both returned to the safe house, it does beggar belief really.

Vanessa · 16-07-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I know right? Beggers belief how people are trying to put any blame on Hazel for that. Fair enough she's not a popular HM but for Gods Sake

Hazel did go too far, but she didn't ask to be threatened or assaulted. If i was in her place i'd press charges.

16-07-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth

if she was scared why did she try and pull his pants down?

Because she did that when she thought they were joking around, not when he had her by the throat.

Vanessa · 16-07-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.

Because she did that when she thought they were joking around, not when he had her by the throat.

Agreed. They were messing around at the beginning, but then Daley just went psycho.

smudgie · 16-07-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth

if she was scared why did she try and pull his pants down?

I don't think she was scared until he started with the threats and threatening stance.
You could see the change, she asked him to have a hug to calm it all down. She was not blameless, but up until then it was all horseplay.
I don't think she realised how pulling his pants down would lead to all that aggression.
Might teach her a lesson in future...you play with fire..you get burnt.

MTVN · 16-07-2013, 11:12 AM

Tbh I'm not even sure her pulling his trousers down was just messing around, it came just after he had smacked her ass really hard which she seemed a bit surprised by and then he stood over her saying "do you want me to ****ing go mad, do you remember when I said when I go mad it's ****ing scary, doesn't mean I'm gonna hit you but it's scary sh*t"

I actually think her responding by pulling his shorts down was her trying to get a bit more control in the situation, might not have been the best move but I think there had been a notable change in how she was looking at him before that

bez87 · 16-07-2013, 11:18 AM

Jesus christ, she was absolutely terrified, if you couldn't tell by her body and just by her eyes alone you could tell she was scared. and seriously, do you think these people don't have feelings in their, most have probably forgot about the camera's at times, she is only telling someone she has no one in there to talk properly with, if you think she is playing a game to win the game think again she was just talking with dan, you heartless people.

bez87 · 16-07-2013, 11:27 AM

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Tbh I'm not even sure her pulling his trousers down was just messing around, it came just after he had smacked her ass really hard which she seemed a bit surprised by and then he stood over her saying "do you want me to ****ing go mad, do you remember when I said when I go mad it's ****ing scary, doesn't mean I'm gonna hit you but it's scary sh*t"

I actually think her responding by pulling his shorts down was her trying to get a bit more control in the situation, might not have been the best move but I think there had been a notable change in how she was looking at him before that

Thinking about it i completely agree, that slap from Daley changed her slightly, i think it was pretty hard and at that moment i honestly think she wanted to try and take control or just to try lighten the mood and show him what she wanted, yes the wrong thing to do, but she thought they were playing and i honestly Daley was just peed off. and if your playing why would anyone say half of what he said, you wouldn't even in playful sense, esp when you don't truly no them.

Niamh. · 16-07-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bez87

Thinking about it i completely agree, that slap from Daley changed her slightly, i think it was pretty hard and at that moment i honestly think she wanted to try and take control or just to try lighten the mood and show him what she wanted, yes the wrong thing to do, but she thought they were playing and i honestly Daley was just peed off. and if your playing why would anyone say half of what he said, you wouldn't even in playful sense, esp when you don't truly no them.

Exactly, people are trying to say it was sexual role play to defend Daley but seriously, they have never even slept together once, would you seriously start on that kind role playing without really knowing the other person and what they are and are not comfortable with in the bedroom? And test that out on national TV? I don't think so

Stankleberry · 16-07-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, people are trying to say it was sexual role play to defend Daley but seriously, they have never even slept together once, would you seriously start on that kind role playing without really knowing the other person and what they are and are not comfortable with in the bedroom? And test that out on national TV? I don't think so

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