[Creggle]

Can't wait for her to have a go at Ashleigh, she literally can't say anything to her that's even remotely insulting whilst Ashleigh can slay her for the work she's had done and for being a hypocrite/horrible cow.

Oh please, rip her to pieces in front of the nation and bring Ash over to the resistance.

[bots]

The point is that Helen is in control of her emotions where she appeared not to be previously (still think that was the acting part) What has she actually done in that video thats wrong? Is she not entitled to speak to a friend when she thinks she has been disrespected? Did she get in someones face and threaten them?

The interesting one in that video was Winston goading her in to having a confrontation and hope to improve his own chances of winning - great stuff

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

Can't wait for her to have a go at Ashleigh, she literally can't say anything to her that's even remotely insulting whilst Ashleigh can slay her for the work she's had done and for being a hypocrite/horrible cow.

Oh please, rip her to pieces in front of the nation and bring Ash over to the resistance.

I wait with baited breath to see what Ashleigh says to her ,she will make straight for diary room with her teddy in hand ,she won't face up to Helen

[rubymoo]

They all want Helen to have a meltdown so that's one less on finals night (with the exception of Ash).

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I wait with baited breath to see what Ashleigh says to her ,she will make straight for diary room with her teddy in hand ,she won't face up to Helen

Ashleigh won't say anything, just like the supposed argument where Ashleigh stuck up for Christopher, Ashleigh doesn't argue.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I wait with baited breath to see what Ashleigh says to her ,she will make straight for diary room with her teddy in hand ,she won't face up to Helen

She already has previously, she will do it again, if she does she will win BB.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

RE Winston. He is deliberately egging her on so she'll lose her temper more, whilst he is right saying to her face that she has no chance of winning the show it's still arrogant of him to say.

Winston is playing up on this drama to make himself look good in the process and strengthen his gameplan, which it's a game fair enough, but the public aren't stupid.

Sadly some of the public ARE stupid

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She already has previously, she will do it again, if she does she will win BB.

Not once has she confronted Helen

[Patricia4]

Just watch a video on the website and Chris is all sorry he cant remember what he said about Helen.
He's all sorry,Chris get some BA*LS you silly man.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Ashleigh won't say anything, just like the supposed argument where Ashleigh stuck up for Christopher, Ashleigh doesn't argue.

Just runs to the diary room for a bit of one to one camera time, silly pissing teddy bear in hand

[HBB1508]

Oh I do wish Chris would stand up for himself - he is starting to annoy me being wet all the time.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Oh I do wish Chris would stand up for himself - he is starting to annoy me being wet all the time.

I think he's just a nice bloke ,and respectful of women ,nothing wrong with that really

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I wait with baited breath to see what Ashleigh says to her ,she will make straight for diary room with her teddy in hand ,she won't face up to Helen

She has done in the past, and she's been slaying Helen all week to her face, Helen just took it and ran off to bitch about her to other housemates.

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I think he's just a nice bloke ,and respectful of women ,nothing wrong with that really

I know Chuff and I guess as he was a bit tipsy he can't remember all he said, but I just wish he would stand up for himself sometimes - not in an aggressive way but just get his point across in a civilised manner.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

She has done in the past, and she's been slaying Helen all week to her face, Helen just took it and ran off to bitch about her to other housemates.

Not once has she confronted Helen

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I know Chuff and I guess as he was a bit tipsy he can't remember all he said, but I just wish he would stand up for himself sometimes - not in an aggressive way but just get his point across in a civilised manner.

My hubby is a mild mannered man like Chris, is a lovely trait in people, nothing can rile him I see the same thing in Chris

[beardedbloke]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I'm sorry Leon but that's what Helen represents to a lot of people inside and outside of the BB house...yeah, I agree many could say the same about Ashleigh and how she sneers when she talks about someone and it's that person at school who you felt was talking about you..?..and made you feel rubbish..I get that/Ashleigh doesn't smile much, I'm not going to pretend she does...so maybe people have encountered and 'Ashleigh' in their life in the past and that provokes things they actively dislike in a person so that's all they see...?...the difference though here is that Chris and Ashleigh were both saying that Helen represented everything they disliked in a person and yet somehow they liked her/they saw other qualities in her..(and tbh, it's also what a lot of her fans have said when they started off not liking her and then saw other parts to her...a 'deeper character' and not just what you see on the surface..?...)...we all have multi aspects to ourselves and we see that by spending time together and getting to know each other and that's the whole point of what they were saying..that's something though that Helen has not seemed to also do...she hasn't been on a journey at all and still only 'hears' what she wants to hear and everything she hears is negative/she turns everything into a negative...there was so much positive in what they were saying..yeah there was negative as well...it's impossible not to see the negative in Helen but why couldn't she have also taken on the positive in that they were saying that they liked her regardless at having got to know her better/that there were nice aspects to her character...but she immediately twisted what they said and removed all good things from that conversation...and that for me starts to wipe our her positives for me because regardless of how complex her character is or how much understanding I would have for her with things she's gone through etc...the results and reality is the same...she turns people's personalities back on themselves/removes all nice things about others and sees people as just 'hostile objects' and the result of that is to make people around her feel fairly miserable which is the effect she appears to have had on many in the house all the way through and most people (in the real world..)... would just not want to spend time with someone like that....

What a fantastic post Ammi.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not once has she confronted Helen

No, but she's been confronted and shat all over Helen, frustrated her and made her regret it. When she's so much better than Helen, confronting and slaying her would be bullying.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

No, but she's been confronted and shat all over Helen, frustrated her and made her regret it. When she's so much better than Helen, confronting and slaying her would be bullying.

Not once has she confronted Helen, just promised to and bottled it

[beardedbloke]

looking at Helen's body language and facial expression, you can tell that she KNOWS she is lying. She KNOWS they were saying they like her now IN SPITE of her faults. This is a compliment, not an insult.

If Helen really believed that Ashleigh and Chris were calling her a 'nightmare' etc. she would be hurt or angry. Look at her body language and face. She is neither.

She is calculating and cruel. She's thinking 'right, I've got them now'. She's been biding her time to pounce on Ashleigh because Helen is jealous as hell of Ashleigh.

Helen now sees this as her perfect opportunity to maul and scratch and go in for the kill.

I do hope the public can see all this.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Just runs to the diary room for a bit of one to one camera time, silly pissing teddy bear in hand

That's what the diary room is talking about another housemates getting angry out

She's hardly in the diary room so I don't see why you have said some think about camera time

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The point is that Helen is in control of her emotions where she appeared not to be previously (still think that was the acting part) What has she actually done in that video thats wrong? Is she not entitled to speak to a friend when she thinks she has been disrespected? Did she get in someones face and threaten them?

The interesting one in that video was Winston goading her in to having a confrontation and hope to improve his own chances of winning - great stuff

Just like Ashleigh was in control of her emotions when she talked to her friend about Helen's nastiness and bullying behaviour of other HM's. Do you agree she was entitled to do that? Ashleigh wasn't even thinking of herself, but of the treatment others were getting.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by beardedbloke

looking at Helen's body language and facial expression, you can tell that she KNOWS she is lying. She KNOWS they were saying they like her now IN SPITE of her faults. This is a compliment, not an insult.

If Helen really believed that Ashleigh and Chris were calling her a 'nightmare' etc. she would be hurt or angry. Look at her body language and face. She is neither.

She is calculating and cruel. She's thinking 'right, I've got them now'. She's been biding her time to pounce on Ashleigh because Helen is jealous as hell of Ashleigh.

Helen now sees this as her perfect opportunity to maul and scratch and go in for the kill.

I do hope the public can see all this.

Nobody will back her up though, if anything Winston and Ash will tell her to ****. Great post though.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not once has she confronted Helen, just promised to and bottled it

When did she promise to? That was the public who fabricated that, she is capable of destroying Helen in 3 seconds flat in a confrontation, she has before and if Helen stupidly brings looks into the equation that would be like radioing a orbital nuclear strike on her own head against somebody like Ashleigh. I can't wait.

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not once has she confronted Helen

What would you like Ashleigh to confront her about?

[Kizzy]

I'm really glad she reacted the way she did... that wouldn't have happened before she would've steamed in.
She's waiting till today to discuss it sober, good on you helen.