[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

The School stuff was uncalled for. Making her out to be some nightmare Bully that would terrorise everyone. It would be like me going "Oh, Asheligh would of been terrible in School. Pretty ****ing Beauty Queen up her ass her with pretty girl clique". Other than that...meh it's not bad.

..I'm sorry Leon but that's what Helen represents to a lot of people inside and outside of the BB house...yeah, I agree many could say the same about Ashleigh and how she sneers when she talks about someone and it's that person at school who you felt was talking about you..?..and made you feel rubbish..I get that/Ashleigh doesn't smile much, I'm not going to pretend she does...so maybe people have encountered and 'Ashleigh' in their life in the past and that provokes things they actively dislike in a person so that's all they see...?...the difference though here is that Chris and Ashleigh were both saying that Helen represented everything they disliked in a person and yet somehow they liked her/they saw other qualities in her..(and tbh, it's also what a lot of her fans have said when they started off not liking her and then saw other parts to her...a 'deeper character' and not just what you see on the surface..?...)...we all have multi aspects to ourselves and we see that by spending time together and getting to know each other and that's the whole point of what they were saying..that's something though that Helen has not seemed to also do...she hasn't been on a journey at all and still only 'hears' what she wants to hear and everything she hears is negative/she turns everything into a negative...there was so much positive in what they were saying..yeah there was negative as well...it's impossible not to see the negative in Helen but why couldn't she have also taken on the positive in that they were saying that they liked her regardless at having got to know her better/that there were nice aspects to her character...but she immediately twisted what they said and removed all good things from that conversation...and that for me starts to wipe our her positives for me because regardless of how complex her character is or how much understanding I would have for her with things she's gone through etc...the results and reality is the same...she turns people's personalities back on themselves/removes all nice things about others and sees people as just 'hostile objects' and the result of that is to make people around her feel fairly miserable which is the effect she appears to have had on many in the house all the way through and most people (in the real world..)... would just not want to spend time with someone like that....