[Will.]

The kid tried to steal a packet of crisps.

Youtube video

A young boy is locked in a Subway store by a worker in this shocking footage after a row broke out over an alleged stolen packet of crisps.

The boy, believed to be aged 10, gets more and more upset throughout the footage and tries to get out of the locked restaurant.

In the clip another youth dressed in a grey tracksuit with his hood up repeatedly kicks at the door, before picking up a heavy advertising hoarding and throwing it at the glass.

As the trapped boy is picked up by a male member of staff his friends rush even more frantically to smash to through the door.

[Jordan.]

No sympathy for chavvy little brats. Hopefully the parents had to pay to replace the smashed door.

[lostalex]

the employee did the right thing. look at those little beasts behaving like lunatics! can you imagine what the parents must be like?

[armand.kay]

The employee is doing way too much doubt he gets paid enough to be dealing with this ****.

[Mystic Mock]

It was traumatic for me, have some sympathy guys.

[user104658]

I'm not going to say he did the right thing because he is an adult and it would have been better for him to keep his cool, however, I also do understand why he snapped. I have occasional problems with a small gang of 11/12 year old kids occasionally that roam around the town where I work and simply put, although they are children, they are thugs. Quite dangerous thugs, because they seem to have this idea that because they are young, no one can do anything to them, including law enforcement (which is true, if they come out its just to have a word with them and move them on, only for them to be back hanging around a couple of hours later).

With us it's minor stuff like running into the shop (18+) and running around shouting abuse at people, but I have customers that you wouldn't mess with if you're 14 or 40 so they leave pretty quickly. I have however seen more serious things outside - throwing things at random people in the street, shoving other teens to the ground... The worse was probably when they were hounding an Indian guy with full on racist abuse, running up behind him and smacking him on the back, grabbing his arms and then screaming help like he had grabbed them... I have no idea how he DIDN'T snap.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not going to say he did the right thing because he is an adult and it would have been better for him to keep his cool, however, I also do understand why he snapped. I have occasional problems with a small gang of 11/12 year old kids occasionally that roam around the town where I work and simply put, although they are children, they are thugs. Quite dangerous thugs, because they seem to have this idea that because they are young, no one can do anything to them, including law enforcement (which is true, if they come out its just to have a word with them and move them on, only for them to be back hanging around a couple of hours later).

With us it's minor stuff like running into the shop (18+) and running around shouting abuse at people, but I have customers that you wouldn't mess with if you're 14 or 40 so they leave pretty quickly. I have however seen more serious things outside - throwing things at random people in the street, shoving other teens to the ground... The worse was probably when they were hounding an Indian guy with full on racist abuse, running up behind him and smacking him on the back, grabbing his arms and then screaming help like he had grabbed them... I have no idea how he DIDN'T snap.

how did he snap? he didn't beat the kid or assault him at all, he just restrained him til the cops could come.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by lostalex

how did he snap? he didn't beat the kid or assault him at all, he just restrained him til the cops could come.

Which isn't legal here; you can't physically detain someone unless they pose a physical threat to yourself or others, or you're licenced to do so (e.g. Security guards, club bouncers, sports stadium stewards etc. hold licences). Whether that's right or wrong is another discussion, but the staff member will have known that he shouldn't have tried to detain him, so I can only imagine he did so because things like this have happened before and he was sick of it.

Tbh he really didn't need to if they have security footage - I imagine the police would know exactly who these kids are from the footage.

[Niamh.]

That 10 year olds parents have a lot to answer for imo. It's one thing to not know what your teenagers are up to but you should know exactly where your 10 year old is and what he's doing during the day

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That 10 year olds parents have a lot to answer for imo. It's one thing to not know what your teenagers are up to but you should know exactly where your 10 year old is and what he's doing during the day

well now they know! he's stealing crisps and abusing minimum wage workers, and destroying property and throwing temper tantrums...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well now the police can actually detain this kid, and hopefully put him in some kind of treatment center. this child is clearly unfit to interact with the general public and should be locked away in a cold dark room.

He's 10 years old though, most 10 year olds would probably act like that if they could get away with it and spend their days with older little thugs. His parents obviously aren't looking after him properly

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's 10 years old though, most 10 year olds would probably act like that if they could get away with it and spend their days with older little thugs. His parents obviously aren't looking after him properly

Yup, like I said they do it because they feel like there are no consequences ; they get used to just doing whatever and nothing actually happens. A lot of the time they keep doing it until they hit 18, don't realise that the rules have changed, and suddenly find themselves arrested and charged for something.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yup, like I said they do it because they feel like there are no consequences ; they get used to just doing whatever and nothing actually happens. A lot of the time they keep doing it until they hit 18, don't realise that the rules have changed, and suddenly find themselves arrested and charged for something.

Yep and then those 18 year olds have kids themselves and the cycle continues

[DemolitionRed]

Kids know they are a law unto themselves.

My eldest son was on a school trip to France when there was an altercation between my son and a class mate. A teacher went to move him out of the way and my son threatened this teacher with the full arm of the law. The school phoned me because they wanted to know if they should turn the coach round and return?! They were really worried that my son had a case against them.

I told them, "if you could clip him round the ear, which I know you can't, I would give my wholehearted permission, but please inform my son that he's grounded when he gets home."

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh its London




Without context its hard to say anything other than what disgusting feral behavoir by the youths.

[Vicky.]

Yeah the lads and his mates appear to be little ****s, but it is not the job of random adults to physically restrain children.

Both are in the wrong here to me.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah the lads and his mates appear to be little ****s, but it is not the job of random adults to physically restrain children.

Both are in the wrong here to me.

so who's job is it to stop them then? and are they expected to just let the little cretins steal whatever they want until the cops get there?

what would you do if that little ****er was tearing up your house?

It's like a rabid dog. look at it! the video is clear!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Kids know they are a law unto themselves.

My eldest son was on a school trip to France when there was an altercation between my son and a class mate. A teacher went to move him out of the way and my son threatened this teacher with the full arm of the law. The school phoned me because they wanted to know if they should turn the coach round and return?! They were really worried that my son had a case against them.

I told them, "if you could clip him round the ear, which I know you can't, I would give my wholehearted permission, but please inform my son that he's grounded when he gets home."

And that's the problem in a lot of cases nowadays, you have the parents backing the kids

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

so who's job is it to stop them then? and are they expected to just let the little cretins steal whatever they want until the cops get there?

what would you do if that little ****er was tearing up your house?

It's like a rabid dog. look at it! the video is clear!

He wasnt tearing up a house though, he allegedly stole a packet of crisps? Burgling a house is very very different.

Not sure how it works in America but here, we don't physically restrain kids for stuff like that. Especially not normal shop staff. I believe security staff are allowed to though, as they are trained to do so.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And that's the problem in a lot of cases nowadays, you have the parents backing the kids

The issue, I think anyway, is that parents are terrified to discipline their children anymore. I mean, its apparently an offense now to SHOUT at your kids? I don't know how true that is but its pathetic..

As such we now have a whole bunch of little bastards who think they can get away with everything as they have never been taught not to. Some kids don't need shouting at and such, but some (and I believe most) do at some stage in their life.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

the employee did the right thing. look at those little beasts behaving like lunatics! can you imagine what the parents must be like?

Yes Very True

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah the lads and his mates appear to be little ****s, but it is not the job of random adults to physically restrain children.

Both are in the wrong here to me.

He needs Police there

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

He wasnt tearing up a house though, he allegedly stole a packet of crisps? Burgling a house is very very different.

Not sure how it works in America but here, we don't physically restrain kids for stuff like that. Especially not normal shop staff. I believe security staff are allowed to though, as they are trained to do so.

no it's not different at all. a place of business is private property just like a home, and by your logic kids can just do whatever they please with no consequences from adults. That little monster is lucky he didn't get his teeth kicked in.

It's people with attitudes like yours that created this little monster to begin with, Vicky.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no it's not different at all. a place of business is private property just like a home, and by your logic kids can just do whatever they please with no consequences from adults. That little monster is lucky he didn't get his teeth kicked in.

You don't think nicking a packet of crisps is in anyway different to 'tearing up' someones home?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You don't think nicking a packet of crisps is in anyway different to 'tearing up' someones home?

um he didn't just nick a pack of crisps, he got caught and he should have been embarrassed and apologized. instead he turned into the tazmanian devil and wrecked the ****ing place. did you WATCH the video???