[user104658]

I'm not going to say he did the right thing because he is an adult and it would have been better for him to keep his cool, however, I also do understand why he snapped. I have occasional problems with a small gang of 11/12 year old kids occasionally that roam around the town where I work and simply put, although they are children, they are thugs. Quite dangerous thugs, because they seem to have this idea that because they are young, no one can do anything to them, including law enforcement (which is true, if they come out its just to have a word with them and move them on, only for them to be back hanging around a couple of hours later).

With us it's minor stuff like running into the shop (18+) and running around shouting abuse at people, but I have customers that you wouldn't mess with if you're 14 or 40 so they leave pretty quickly. I have however seen more serious things outside - throwing things at random people in the street, shoving other teens to the ground... The worse was probably when they were hounding an Indian guy with full on racist abuse, running up behind him and smacking him on the back, grabbing his arms and then screaming help like he had grabbed them... I have no idea how he DIDN'T snap.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not going to say he did the right thing because he is an adult and it would have been better for him to keep his cool, however, I also do understand why he snapped. I have occasional problems with a small gang of 11/12 year old kids occasionally that roam around the town where I work and simply put, although they are children, they are thugs. Quite dangerous thugs, because they seem to have this idea that because they are young, no one can do anything to them, including law enforcement (which is true, if they come out its just to have a word with them and move them on, only for them to be back hanging around a couple of hours later).

With us it's minor stuff like running into the shop (18+) and running around shouting abuse at people, but I have customers that you wouldn't mess with if you're 14 or 40 so they leave pretty quickly. I have however seen more serious things outside - throwing things at random people in the street, shoving other teens to the ground... The worse was probably when they were hounding an Indian guy with full on racist abuse, running up behind him and smacking him on the back, grabbing his arms and then screaming help like he had grabbed them... I have no idea how he DIDN'T snap.

how did he snap? he didn't beat the kid or assault him at all, he just restrained him til the cops could come.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by lostalex

how did he snap? he didn't beat the kid or assault him at all, he just restrained him til the cops could come.

Which isn't legal here; you can't physically detain someone unless they pose a physical threat to yourself or others, or you're licenced to do so (e.g. Security guards, club bouncers, sports stadium stewards etc. hold licences). Whether that's right or wrong is another discussion, but the staff member will have known that he shouldn't have tried to detain him, so I can only imagine he did so because things like this have happened before and he was sick of it.

Tbh he really didn't need to if they have security footage - I imagine the police would know exactly who these kids are from the footage.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well now the police can actually detain this kid, and hopefully put him in some kind of treatment center. this child is clearly unfit to interact with the general public and should be locked away in a cold dark room.

He's 10 years old though, most 10 year olds would probably act like that if they could get away with it and spend their days with older little thugs. His parents obviously aren't looking after him properly

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's 10 years old though, most 10 year olds would probably act like that if they could get away with it and spend their days with older little thugs. His parents obviously aren't looking after him properly

Yup, like I said they do it because they feel like there are no consequences ; they get used to just doing whatever and nothing actually happens. A lot of the time they keep doing it until they hit 18, don't realise that the rules have changed, and suddenly find themselves arrested and charged for something.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yup, like I said they do it because they feel like there are no consequences ; they get used to just doing whatever and nothing actually happens. A lot of the time they keep doing it until they hit 18, don't realise that the rules have changed, and suddenly find themselves arrested and charged for something.

Yep and then those 18 year olds have kids themselves and the cycle continues