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How do you "treat him as a terrorist"

He has been banged up for life?
Not make excuses for him in Newspapers?
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ok but that would still be a way that they could be treated like a Terrorist, you asked I answered
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Whose opinion are they catering for?
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ok but that would still be a way that they could be treated like a Terrorist, you asked I answered
Well the people at the Mail dont see it like that, I guess they see him as a lone wolf nutter.
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Well the people at the Mail dont see it like that, I guess they see him as a lone wolf nutter.
so he isn't being treated like a terrorist..............
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Not make excuses for him in Newspapers?
Or attempt to garner sympathy for him and his cause by making out he was worried about losing his house.
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Well the people at the Mail dont see it like that, I guess they see him as a lone wolf nutter.
If that were true why paint him as the victim? Not that this explains the lack of coverage of the verdict.
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Hes not a terrorist because he wasnt trying to terrorise the general population, Just specifically the lefty liberals.
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If that were true why paint him as the victim? Not that this explains the lack of coverage of the verdict.
I don't think there was a lack of coverage, the verdict for this and the serial murderer story came on the day of the Autumn statement so were pushed off the front pages
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If that were true why paint him as the victim? Not that this explains the lack of coverage of the verdict.
its just an argument about positioning really, it was covered and covered well online (bigger than the measly print publication). They took the decision to place it where they did as its their call. I may take issue with where the Guardian or Indie place Farage success stories but I guess you dont care where they go?
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I don't think there was a lack of coverage, the verdict for this and the serial murderer story came on the day of the Autumn statement so were pushed off the front pages
'Only two British newspapers failed to feature a picture of Jo Cox on their front pages today, as the terrorist killer of the MP was jailed: the Financial Times and the Daily Mail.'

It made page 7 of the mail, hence the link in the OP that this quote is from.
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'Only two British newspapers failed to feature a picture of Jo Cox on their front pages today, as the terrorist killer of the MP was jailed: the Financial Times and the Daily Mail.'

It made page 7 of the mail, hence the link in the OP that this quote is from.
So there wasn't a lack of coverage then? No one is surprised at the Mail
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Not really surprising with the FT either seeing as they're mainly concerned with political economy and give a bigger focus to global news
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So there wasn't a lack of coverage then? No one is surprised at the Mail
Can you do me a favour Cherie and just read the OP? you seem to be totally confused as to what this thread is about.
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It made page 7 of the mail, hence the link in the OP that this quote is from.
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Can you do me a favour Cherie and just read the OP? you seem to be totally confused as to what this thread is about.

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I'm not being funny but why are you even questioning the Mails stance on this
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Also why don't you think MTVN is confused oh he's a mod
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The lack of coverage....In the mail.
I'm not sure if they are treating this with the gravitas it deserves. If it's because they don't see this as a terrorist act, and if not why not?
Then I thought I'd pose that question to the forum, are we clear yet?
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Well he made a sensible post on page 1 so I let him off.
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I made sensible posts as well they are just not to your liking, so you try to bully me

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He is a terrorist and he likely would have wanted to take more lives had he got away with this one.

Like in the Lee Rigby case,caught in the act, no doubt as to their guilt and they just as this vile human being Mair too, plead not guilty at their trials.

No remorse, no shame no acknowledgement of the rotten brutal murder they chose to commit.

As for the Daily Mail, I guess they put this somewhere well into the paper than the front page, had this been a Conservative MP it would have probably been on the font page.
I have not time for the Daily Mail, in fact I have little time for any of the press now anyway.

However the Daily Mail particularly is one publication I wouldn't even soil my hands on even touching it to look more closely at it, let alone ever buying it.
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He is a terrorist and he likely would have wanted to take more lives had he got away with this one.

Like in the Lee Rigby case,caught in the act, no doubt as to their guilt and they just as this vile human being Mair too, plead not guilty at their trials.

No remorse, no shame no acknowledgement of the rotten brutal murder they chose to commit.

As for the Daily Mail, I guess they put this somewhere well into the paper than the front page, had this been a Conservative MP it would have probably been on the font page.
I have not time for the Daily Mail, in fact I have little time for any of the press now anyway.

However the Daily Mail particularly is one publication I wouldn't even soil my hands on even touching it to look more closely at it, let alone ever buying it.
To seriously suggest that a daily newspaper were less concerned about the brutal murder of a labour MP than they would have been been of a Tory MP is ridiculous.

The worst thing though is to attempt to make any comparison between the motivations/mindset of the killers in both these cases. Lee Rigby' killers were hardline terrorists out to kill anyone who fitted their agenda, in this case a British soldier. The MP's killer had a fixation on this particular MP and is clearly mentally ill.

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To seriously suggest that a daily newspaper were less concerned about the brutal murder of a labour MP than they would have been been of a Tory MP is ridiculous.

The worst thing though is to attempt to make any comparison between the motivations/mindset of the killers in both these cases. Lee Rigby' killers were hardline terrorists out to kill anyone who fitted their agenda, in this case a British soldier. The MP's killer had a fixation on this particular MP and is clearly mentally ill.
Firstly,I came from a Conservative background and was a supporter until I was 18.
However now 24 over the years I have come to see things differently,so it is not a left wing obsession as to the Mail in fact it is fact.
This is the paper that shockingly slandered Miliband's Father on its front pages, if you cannot see that the Mail is heavily prejudiced to the right as against the left, that is not my problem.

This man Mair, please do not infer mental illness, that cop out for so many rotten crimes.
This man researched,acquired the weapons, planned and executed his crime no less so than the vile murderers of Lee Rigby.
Who also were deliberately targetting a Soldier, because they hate the British armed forces.

This man in the end targetted this MP, because her views differed from his and all he had become obsessed with as to believing was right from his vile collection of memorabilia and reading matter.

The worst thing anyone can do, in my view, is to try to say he has a mental illness.
No he has not, he was able to sit in court all trough his trial, refuse to take the stand and was fully able to plan this atrocious act, long before enacting it too.

He is a terrorist, he should be treated like one, no way should mental illness get more stigmatised by people claiming he has a mental illness, none of which was said in court or before or after this case either.
I would imagine anyone reading your post claiming he is mentally ill to have done this, who themselves may have any mental issues would be horrified by your words.

No way should he be justified even in any small way whatsoever for this act and certainly not by playing a mental illness card..

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