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Originally Posted by Stu

Oh give that tired old rhetoric a rest would you. Everything you said their could be applied to religious people too if I were into weak arse, wank assumptions. No matter how much I love or hate atheists that's just such a lazy argument from people of faith. Of course atheists are going to broadcast their stance on the issue, share information on the universe with other atheists and so on. Very few people are natural atheists considering most of us were reared with religion. Information had to convert them and they now share this information with others.

Are you saying because atheists don't believe that they should not be allowed debate with religious people? After all they know and have their own beliefs. Why don't they just shut up unlike the religious people. Yeah. Atheists should just shut the hell up. So should people in various other positions to give out knowledge or their interpretation and opinion on it. Yeah. Just shut up. You big loosers. We don't want to hear your side of the story because it might in some way threaten ours.

Prominent atheists are not trying to padlock local churches. They are trying to point out that maybe ... just maybe ... religious faith is fallacious in nature and maybe just maybe it has caused a lot of harm and we ought to rethink it a bit. They have every right in the world to do that.

That pissant generalization of 'oh you believe too and you need reassurance too nyah nyah nyah nyah nya nya' applies even more to religious people. I could rewrite that same argument to apply to ... oh I don't know ... people who need a sacred scripture for reassurance and then go to the streets to shout about it aloud in no general direction. But then that doesn't bother me. I think they are wrong, but I respect and cherish their right to free speech.

Atheists are overwhelmingly more closeted than religious people about their beliefs. That just makes a complete mockery of your last sentence.

Did I say that my point couldn't be applied to religious people too?

Sorry that you just wasted your time typing up that very long reply when you didn't really need to.
My point was about the atheist we are discussing: the man in the video and to an extent Arista. I could have worded my reply more clearly but it was in response to Arista's post which was basically being patronising to all religious people. It's like saying all muslim's are terrorists, it's not true.

And religious people don't need the sacred scripture to back up anything. The scripture is the cause of their beliefs and religion is all about faith, which isn't about having solid proof.

Suppose it just winds me up when people rant about religion being wrong. "There is no god", "How can you believe in something you can't see" etc, etc. Yet do they have proof that God doesn't exist?

And whoever posted "Whatever the truth is, Religion is far from it". Well, religion is a pretty broad spectrum in general, they don't all believe in the same things. And whether a specific religion is "whatever the truth is" or not, how would you know?