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Originally Posted by 08marsh

That's assuming you know what "God" (if there is one) actually is.
The term "God" doesn't always mean the bearded man sitting on a cloud.

Also, it's funny after reading that "Forum Trolls and Bullies" thing someone posted yesterday it seems to be describing Arista perfectly. Deliberately trying to wind people up with the thread. Arista knows ****.

And amusing how these very vocal and patronising atheists are the ones that seem to need assurance that they are right from other atheists and constantly searching for someone to tell them "You're right, faith is wrong". If they were 100% correct and right in what they say they wouldn't need that. If you don't believe, you don't believe. Whereas a lot of religious people seem to just have their beliefs and keep it private.

Oh give that tired old rhetoric a rest would you. Everything you said their could be applied to religious people too if I were into weak arse, wank assumptions. No matter how much I love or hate atheists that's just such a lazy argument from people of faith. Of course atheists are going to broadcast their stance on the issue, share information on the universe with other atheists and so on. Very few people are natural atheists considering most of us were reared with religion. Information had to convert them and they now share this information with others.

Are you saying because atheists don't believe that they should not be allowed debate with religious people? After all they know and have their own beliefs. Why don't they just shut up unlike the religious people. Yeah. Atheists should just shut the hell up. So should people in various other positions to give out knowledge or their interpretation and opinion on it. Yeah. Just shut up. You big loosers. We don't want to hear your side of the story because it might in some way threaten ours.

Prominent atheists are not trying to padlock local churches. They are trying to point out that maybe ... just maybe ... religious faith is fallacious in nature and maybe just maybe it has caused a lot of harm and we ought to rethink it a bit. They have every right in the world to do that.

That pissant generalization of 'oh you believe too and you need reassurance too nyah nyah nyah nyah nya nya' applies even more to religious people. I could rewrite that same argument to apply to ... oh I don't know ... people who need a sacred scripture for reassurance and then go to the streets to shout about it aloud in no general direction. But then that doesn't bother me. I think they are wrong, but I respect and cherish their right to free speech.

Atheists are overwhelmingly more closeted than religious people about their beliefs. That just makes a complete mockery of your last sentence.