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Old 07-01-2015, 10:22 AM #11
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..I don't get that though Nedusa because she did phone the police as soon as she woke up in the hotel room and couldn't remember going there etc...I don't think that she reported rape as such because that's the point and why consent was doubtful..she had no recollection of any of it so how could she have consented..?..that's not me btw saying that but what the court findings were with Chad and the reason it was different with McDonald is that she had approached him so consent was possible../element of doubt...


..also this case is more complicated as opposed to someone who may have accused someone of rape because they had regrets about something for the very reason that she didn't make any rape accusations when she called the police...their investigations led to that, surely..?...

I think she phoned the police because she thought her drink had been spiked and she couldn't remember getting to the hotel, also her phone and handbag were missing (she actually left these at the kebab shop). She didn't complain of any physical symptoms of a rape.

The cctv allowed the police to contact the two footballers and they went to the nearest police station and gave the police full and honest accounts of what happened. They both admitted consensual sex and this perhaps made the police decide a possible rape had taken place.

In the event a toxicology report showed this woman had no date rape drugs in her system and cctv clearly showed her able to walk in heels unaided and fairly aware of all around her.

As I said she made no complaint of rape and I can only imagine the footballers honesty coupled with the circumstances of taking the girl back to the hotel may have led to the police suggesting she was raped.

Had both footballers said nothing then there would have been no grounds for any charges to have been brought as there was no evidence a crime had been committed. No forensic evidence, no witness evidence, etc

This is why I have a big problem trying to get into the minds of jurors when they decided beyond a reasonable doubt that ONE of them did commit rape ..????

This I have a real problem with, and this is why I think a mistrial or retrial is needed as this conviction is surely unsafe.




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