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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Know what I do find sort of telling? No one has any problem whatsoever with speculation surrounding the Stephen Avery "Making a Murderer" stuff, documentaries about it, countless theories, it's all sort of accepted as being fine to have opinions and theories...

...but try to suggest an alternate theory in the Maddie case, or suggest that any of the surrounding events aren't whiter-than-white and above board and could have happened to anyone and oh it's fine to all leave your kids alone, at night, in unlocked apartments, in a foreign country... and you get shot down from all angles. Because Middle Class British Folks! How dare you suggest they are anything other than exemplary parents. You must simply believe the also entirely assumed / guesswork narrative that Maddie was abducted. There is ZERO EVIDENCE that she was abducted by a paedophile. The evidence is that she was left alone in a room, and that she silently disappeared from that room while her siblings were left asleep and unharmed. That's it. That's the whole story, as far as 100% verified evidence goes.

But it's fine to theorise that she was abducted by MI5 trained stealth Gypsy paedophiles... just don't dare theorise that anyone else had anything to do with it

..'sort of telling' of what, I wonder...the two things are not comparable at all...even in disregarding that 'Making a Murderer' was a documentary series, specifically outlining two serious crimes/one of which was a murder and with the sole intent to create speculation and intrigue..because the fist crime, that Stephen was found guilty of in a court of law, he was in fact innocent of...and he still professes innocence to the murder of Teresa, having experienced his 'guilt being manipulated once' by police and a judicial system...(I'm going to assume you meant me when you said that because of the few people involved in that thread, of which I was one of... and I'm not speculating any guilt with the MaCanns, other than their leaving the children alone that night...)...my personal theory was that Stephen killed her, which is the thoughts I gave in the thread, 'my theory' as it were ..Stephen Avery, the person that has been charged and convicted of her murder is the one who is also guilty of it, both in my personal thoughts and presently in the eyes of the law..but whatever speculations and theories anyone concluded from it all, it's what a specific series was aimed at doing/causing because if Stephen didn't kill her, then there is still a murderer out there and free....there was a body/remains of one, so there was a definite murder and a murderer, absolutely no question or doubt at all about that...there is no body here, so there is not necessarily any death, let alone a murder or someone responsible for that death, in the way that many of the public have speculated...what there is, is a disappearance of an unattended child and much obvious interest and speculation about her disappearance....


...very shabby indeed TS, as to what would be 'sort of telling'...or in drawing any comparison at all in the two things...