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Originally Posted by Withano

I'm not sure if many people knowingly insult others.. It seems to me, more one-up-manship, until somebody eventually crosses the line.
I think serious debates have got more.. serious.. because of the recent **** that went on.. brexit, trump, ge17 (admittedly, I dont know where the anti-muslim rhetoric has stemmed from, was there much of this before the referendum?).. but this hasnt been a normal 12 months for Western politics..
SD might revert to normal once the backlash of ge17, brexit, and trump dies down because I cant think of many upcoming political milestones as big as these in the near future

You're obviously intelligent and I enjoy reading your posts for the most part though I don't always agree I do sometimes but I feel if I mentioned that you'd think I was mocking you or something. I enjoy reading most people on the forum, but there are a few I feel don't listen and just bite without really taking on board what others are saying.

I think you (and others) mistake anti religious feeling and concerns for women in religions for anti muslim rhetoric. I think the muslim religion comes up a lot because of current affairs and the current spate of terroism, and because of the whole face covering thing. As religions go, it is one of the worst for the oppression of women so that too comes up a lot. It seems to me as if there are two groups on the forum, one that are looking at the negatives of the religion and another that view those negatives as anti the people who adhere to it. It's quite complex really.

For me personally I don't believe in religion and feel it is tolerable only in so far as when it doesn't tell people how to live, how many babies to have, whether or not to mutilate their children's genitals, who else to pick on or kill, how to dress, and who to marry and at what age etc.